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[Drama 2020] The King: Eternal Monarch, 더 킹: 영원의 군주

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With all the sadness and melancholy epi 10 & preview for epi11 have given us, I would like to thank ES for this:

 

 

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Ep 10

Ending scene

LG: hey, have you been well?

TE: nodding, it took you a while this time.

LG: because i had to come from far away, i realized i have never even gave you a single flower thats why i crossed the universe for you.

 



Tae Eul takes a step towards Lee gon and then suddenly stops. ( this is the point she realizes something amiss ) that this Lee Gon who visited here is not the Lee Gon from the current time line. He is the Lee Gon from the future timeline. The Lee gon take the steps towards her. Handed her the flower and says his goodbye.

LG: but the thing is, i have to go back now.

TE: you have to go back?

LG: Right. I also realized i never told you this. I love you. I am deeply in love with you.

Lee Gon kisses Tae Eul and then his gone...

LG: voice over ( there will come a moment when it seems I've disappeared. I don't want you to worry too much when that happens. It just means I'm walking through the frozen moments in time.

Something must have happened to Lee Gon and he got stuck in the limbo (the land of no where) just like in the movie the time travelers wife he is traveling through the times and is only revisiting Tae Eul through that and then he will suddenly disappear. Or something must have happened to Tae Eul in the future and now he is reliving the times and travels through it when  she is still alive.

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JY and TE conversation is so deep.

 

JY told TE besides LG only TE can delete LG wrote. JY telling indirectly to TE that besides LG only TE can end their relationship because LG can't definitely be with her in RK since he is a King to a country. How she can handle it and leave everything and be a queen in KC? Although it hurts but thats the reality. Whatever she chooses it will really hurt her. Leaving everything for her love her family her life in RK then but being a queen is very difficult and big responsibility. But staying in RK and not able to see LG is a different level of torture. So what she will do? :tears:

 

I just can't handle it.. :sweatingbullets:

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55 minutes ago, Heretorant said:


Wow, I’m surprised someone can even understand all that verbiage. I was afraid I would confuse the hell out of everyone lol. 
 

And this is the hard part. I can’t decide because I’ve been sold on two saviors this whole time. But I think my new theory makes it impossible for there to be 2 saviors. The ending of episode 10 hints that he can’t stay long when he travels which means it’s not exactly an easy task. Therefore, what’s the probability that two people can travel at the same time? It’s highly unlikely because it’s already difficult enough for one person. I’m going to have to pause here and think. I can’t decide between one savior or 2 saviors now. 

 

 

 

With all these new clues, it might as well just had been one savior. Different LG's from different time loops trying to go back. Also this quote you brought up “There will come a moment when it seems I’ve disappeared. I don’t want you to worry too much when that happens. It just means I’m walking through the frozen moments in time” reminds me of the other quote he told JTE where if he takes too long, it's just him being on his way. I guess if his goal wasn't to save JTE but just to meet her than he had accepted his fate to keep loving someone who will always die soon. It's too sad for me. How dare TKEM trapped me. I usually avoid watching/reading unhappy endings. :bawling:

 

Also those flowers he showed up with in front of JTE, were they flowers that sprouted from the previous JTE who may have planted them in the crossover? Pretty sure the seeds current JTE planted haven't sprouted yet, but then how come they didn't see those flowers when the current JTE/LG went to the crossover. The time there should be nonexistent to the point where things that happened in previous loop would've remained. 

 

Onto lighter note...

@Umjicheok If you can't stop haters from hating, you just got to rub it in their face. :lol: At least now we can say the PPL are there for comedic purpose in this drama filled with dark foreshadowing. 

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New here! Always lurking around, just wanted to share my theory but I am not sure if someone has shared this.

 

Watching the last two episodes, I can't be sure that LG is time jumping to see JTE  - that has not even crossed my mind until I jumped here because I felt so lost after the last 5 minutes of that episode.

 

The timeline of the drama is a bit confusing in itself, sometimes they would be in a scene that was part of another scene but was not seen - does that make sense? Don't get me wrong, I like that element as it keeps it exciting and mysterious. Scene recaps have somehow always bothered me and showing it this way is fresh and makes you look forward to what else is there, if that makes sense.

 

BUT, if that is what is happening, I agree that JTE will die at a certain part - but not going to be the sad end. I have always felt that something will happen to her in order to save LG. I think LG could be time travelling to take the present JTE to the future because the future JTE has died. The only way you can time travel is with the magic flute so I believe the future LG is still chasing the evil uncle so he can go back to present JTE and they can travel in the future together, and be together.

My original theory is that Sinjae saved the young LG so that in the present, LG can figure out a way to save JTE. I still think future LG and Sinjae are working together to make sure that JTE doesn't die. I think Sinjae's mum took JTE's ID and instead of giving it to the evil uncle, she will give it to her son to help him save JTE.

AHHHH!!! It's always so refreshing to jump here because everyone is appreciating the drama compared to the comments online.

Don't get me wrong, it has flaws but I think this drama is just too complicated for some people to give it a chance. The concept is super different for a Kdrama, giving me Lost vibes, you are there but then you get to another episode and you realise you are actually nowhere. 

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"I love you...I am deeply in love with you". 

 

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Posted (edited)
31 minutes ago, gwin said:


No.  Crash Landing on You and Itaewon Class were much much bigger.  


Let's not make comparisons.

Sorry, I got the wrong and inaccurate information. 

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Now that is a kiss I can get behind. I didn't catch the episode yet as I am working but just had a few mins break to watch what you guys are writing on Soompi

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One liner post:

 

LG is crying while kissing her! My heart is melting with the tears.

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59 minutes ago, madmad min said:

Real Scene .

 

Timeline....

1. Dec 20-21 2019>>LG scanning JY's laptop for any traces of LR. Catches a Glimpse of LR who has not aged. 

 

2. Same day as point 1 realizes he needs to check if there is any gateway through passage OR is LR still in passage stopping his Ageing. 10 days in Living Worlds=5 hours within Passage between. LG realizes he has 5 hours to scan the passage and Return before New Year  (Cue the Lunar New Year or New Year here is a bit ambiguous for me 10 hour=5 days is Correct though).

 

3. He travels the passage, Fails to find LR's 0-1 Obelisk, again reaches His obelisk of ROK and JTE was missing him that point ( Somewhere between 5 hours/10 days in the world) , they meet cry and hug. (LG does know he reached ROK via his OBELISK and actually would have called JTE via payphone if she did no meet him there.)

 

4. Dec 23rd 2019>>Travels back via passage to Kingdom of Corea and reaches on 23rd Dec 2019. (My estimate he spent around 1.x - 2.x hours in passage which was equivalent to 2 days)


I think they are talking about the Lunar New Year  which is January 25 2020 in here so he probably left January 14 (since ten days before the last day of the year) then came back 23. That is why the press secretary says that the new year is the day after tomorrow and Lady Noh says the date is 23rd.

 

44 minutes ago, Umjicheok said:

No he is Corea bookstore owner. He mentioned about prince Buyeong visiting the bookstore.

 

This was very sad episode :sweatingbullets:

 

I won't  repeat the points since you ppl are ahead of me.

I just wanted to mention that LG's cousin Se jin looks to me like dopplegangler of facemask girl. 

 

KGE acting in the last scene reminded me of JTE crying for Kim shin. She is really a good crier.:bawling:

 

How come Lee lim can kill all royal guards, prince buyeong was supposed to go to palace. How I wish king himself along with his royal guards escorted him to the palace:bawling:

 

Looks like episode 11 onwards we can expect time traveling aspect.

Now I am off to watch this episode again.

 

 

Oh also just to lighten up the mood they missed PPL opportunity when Tae eul brought food for jo yeong I thought they would show kimchi or something else.:joy:

 They are openly talking about PPL when they were sitting outside the police station Well looks like motto is if you can't avoid PPL then openly promote it.:lol:

 

Same, the feels urgh. 

 

I also think one of the reason he killed the Uncle Prince B was because he visited the bookstore and he does not believe in coincidences.

 

I also think the daughter of Uncle Prince B also looks like facemasked girl. I mean there is probably a reason why they never really show her face for long (other than in pictures). Just my guess though, people with clearer eyes could probably recheck.

 

 

for my main theory. I think we are looking at ala-Time Traveller’s Wife. But the wife dies instead of the time traveller. I really think JTE died because why would future LG (I think he is the future LG based on the clothes which is the same with episode 1) say “I never” if JTE is alive in his present. So he is just replaying their memories and interacting with those stolen/frozen moments in time. I also think when our current LG realizes that time travel is possible maybe he will try to change thinks only to cause the things he is trying to change to happen (ala-Terminator) and that he was his savior all along like how Harry Potter realized he was the one who conjured the patronus that saved himself and Sirius. Hopefully, this show will end ala-HP Prisoner of Azkaban wherein Buckbeck never really died and was saved the whole time but the trio from the future made it only that way so that the past will stay the same and not cause the Grandfather’s Paradox. So I hope it will turn out that JTE was saved the whole time (with the help of yoyo kid) and was only made to look-like she died so that LG will still have the incentive to timetravel and save her. 
 

Something I have also realized, when they kissed LG is crying as if saying goodbye and he is also giving JTE a warning that if it would seem he will disappear so does that mean their timeline is in reverse. Look at it, we never really saw future LG until now (except from 25 years ago if he is really the savior) yet he knew that that future him will be disappearing in JTE’s future. My theory is that he knows his time is up and this is his last meeting of her because future JTE probably told him he never met her before that. It’s like the British show Doctor Who their timeline are in reverse, wherein River’s and the Doctor’s first and last meeting are respectively the last and first of the other so when he first met her it was her last meeting with him. Think of it like a manual rewind wherein the first scene in rewind was the latest scene you have just saw recently. So maybe it means when LG time travels he can only slowly time travel to his nearest frozen moment of his past. Think of it as netflix rewind 10 seconds button and that you keep pressing that button till you reach that start of the episode. So what if he can travel only to his nearest past and he slowly and repeatedly timetravel until he reach 25 years ago. 
 

just the rambling of my confused and hyperactive brain hahaha

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Ok, am a bit calmer now...  I think the LG we see at the end is him from the future where TE has already died. He probably went back in time to see her again. He said he came from a far away place & even crossed the universe and had to travel through the moments frozen in time. And he also was crying, giving me the impression it was a goodbye kiss on his side. The only way he could have disappeared like that without her noticing it is either time stood still. If it is time travelling, there must be some sort of rule or time limit for LG to stay. Just like that novel turned movie "Time Traveller's Wife".

 

WRT to the preview?  TE  definitely is in Corea on her own.  Does not look like she is anywhere near the bamboo portal and since she is calling LG, she did not travel with him.  Was she kidnapped by LR? And in the process of escaping, shot someone?

 

This week will be PURE torture waiting for epi 11-12

 

As a final thought - with all these major hints of a tragic conclusion or that they can never be together (that talk with JY is another major red flag), am still holding on hope for a happy ending. I did not see Goblin or Mr Sunshine so I have no experience with what others refer to KES' penchant for a sad ending. Cos to be on a never-ending time loop?  That's is not only heart breaking.  It is simply cruel.  Come on KES, give us some redemption.

 

LG will find a wrinkle in the fabric of time.  He will find a way!

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4 minutes ago, Jad068 said:

I think they are talking about the Lunar New Year  which is January 25 2020 in here so he probably left January 14 (since ten days before the last day of the year) then came back 23. That is why the press secretary says that the new year is the day after tomorrow and Lady Noh says the date is 23rd.

 

Rewatched the scene again , LG Left KOC when there was 10 DAYS Left for Last day of the Year. I mean isn't the last day supposed to be 31st Dec in every Region? Could Be Jan 13-14 , but again a Bit confusing  here, maybe someone can re-translate the dates with original context.

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6 minutes ago, Dramafreak said:

LG is crying while kissing her! My heart is melting with the tears.

 

That was some incredible acting from LMH and KGE.

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When Lee Gon realized that Lee Lim doesn't go through the portal in the bamboo forest, why does he think of Haeundae the place to go next? We always see LG go through the portal, but we have never seen LL go through one. So why Haeundae? 

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18 minutes ago, mychoiyoung said:

If it is time travelling, there must be some sort of rule or time limit for LG to stay. Just like that novel turned movie "Time Traveller's Wife".

 

WRT to the preview?  TE  definitely is in Corea on her own.  Does not look like she is anywhere near the bamboo portal and since she is calling LG, she did not travel with him.  Was she kidnapped by LR? And in the process of escaping, shot someone?

 

This week will be PURE torture waiting for epi 11-12

 

My two cents:

I think it could be the time stop that happens which helped LG (future/past/present) disappear.

 

The wait is already a torture :D

 

good that you havent seen other dramas... treat each one as a piece of art in itself :D

 

btw the preview is very much in line with the new director's style. I could be wrong but in his other series Hi Bye Mama, i think there are a similar preview which gives no hknts but creates anxiety and let us br honest.... everyone here is anxious!

 

Also, i think ppls have ended now as the fun times are over. I want to understand the conversation of fate with LR / LR eith his minion of fate / SJ with JTE and of course LG with JTE at the end.

 

I love how the drama makes fun of itself. 

 

@ponderings : that particular place because of the video 2022 that he saw? He actually says some dialogue just before oh we wasted our time and I thought that explained it all.

 

Did someone notice the nice dialogue: lr after doctor uncle is dead -- dont act surprised, you knew this was coming !!! Ohhhh...

 

I really feel bad for the king and he needs trusted people in his world --- JS go back.

 

JS and JTE talk was only possible coz both dont know that LR wont go down as easily as JY thinks he will.

 

Action happened in Corea and now I think action will happen in Korea.

 

The next 6 episodes will be nice. 

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Hello, I've been a silent reader since the beginning of the drama. It's been years since I logged in here, I didn't even remember my old account lol. But this drama is blowing my mind so I decided to come back here to see the ongoing discussion and theories. I love it :) Today's episode has me thinking way too much, I cannot wait for Friday to arrive!

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To Lighten the Mood, I sometimes Wonder if any writer or TKEM crew member reads Soompi Forum. Even LG's secretary wonders if he vanishes for Scandalous Rendezvous.  :w00t:

 

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 :joy::scream::joy:

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21 minutes ago, madmad min said:

 

Rewatched the scene again , LG Left KOC when there was 10 DAYS Left for Last day of the Year. I mean isn't the last day supposed to be 31st Dec in every Region? Could Be Jan 13-14 , but again a Bit confusing  here, maybe someone can re-translate the dates with original context.

They were talking of the New Year of the Lunar Calendar (Lunar NY)  not the New Year of Gregorian Calendar. Lunar New Year (known as Chinese Nee Year in some countries) was celebrated January 25 this year (the date changes every year depending on the lunar cycle, the date of new moon and full moon) . That is why they were talking about how it is the start of the year of the rat ( part of the 12 Chinese Zodiac). Asian countries typically celebrate new year twice: one for the gregorian new year and the other for the lunar/chinese new year. Though the Lunar NY is celebrated more in the sense of festivals and holidays.

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1 minute ago, Jad068 said:

They were talking of the New Year if the Lunar Calendar (Lunar NY)  not the New Year of Gregorian Calendar. Lunar New Year (known as Chinese Nee Year in some countries) was celebrated January 25 this year. That is why they were talking about how it is the start of the year of the rat ( part of the 12 Chinese Zodiac). Asian countries typically celebrate new year twice: one for the gregorian new year and the other for the lunar/chinese new year. Though the Lunar NY is celebrated more in the sense of festivals and holidays.

 

Thank You, Will Re-edit the post, I said ambiguity because of Dec25/23 and All that Jazz :D

7 minutes ago, ponderings said:

When Lee Gon realized that Lee Lim doesn't go through the portal in the bamboo forest, why does he think of Haeundae the place to go next? We always see LG go through the portal, but we have never seen LL go through one. So why Haeundae? 

 

It's Near to the KING's Palace in Busan from what I understood in sub-text and from what Google told me.

 

Spoiler

Haeundae is an affluent beach front community that attracts tens of thousands of tourists during summer. It has been subject to considerable commercial development in recent decades. The beach is linked to Busan Subway Line 2 and train stations on the Donghae Nambu railway line.

 

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