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[Drama 2020] The King: Eternal Monarch, 더 킹: 영원의 군주

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4 minutes ago, ladylia257 said:

 

A pure guess. Maybe Luna and JTE can swap places at the end. So JTE can marry LG and Luna can be a policewoman, JTE's father doesn't have to lose a daughter, and Luna might end up with Sinjae.

 

Although it's still a big question. Will Luna, Sinjae and the Prime Minister side with LG or LR? 

My first time posting here too
but i think another challenge that OTP face is if JTE lives with LG in KOC and becomes queen or end up married LG then will the citizens of KOC openly accept JTE as their queen? because Luna already have criminal record
so i'm so curious what the writer's choice to end their story

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2 hours ago, Hachiko said:

I feel like I have signed up for a module that is so tough and interesting at the same time. Many students may drop but many stay too. I must go to class every Fri, Sat, do so much homework (rewatch and analyze) and have group assignment, group discussion (@soompi) in order to pass the module with flying colors. Let’s wish that our module will have all student score A+ with happy ending. That’s more meaningful than the rating to me.

Hahaha... I love your analogy here. It is indeed so trueee. :lol: yes to A+!! Let's beat the test (solving the mystery and discuss how this and that will end). 

 

I think when you use your fantasy mind and did some thoughts of it. This is super fun! The drama isn't just a regular fantasy. I watched many dramas with fantasy genre but not all of them can engage me this much. I'm so invested into this one! I dropped many recent fantasy shows because I found it less interesting and turns to be such a boring one. But glad that The King keeps me addicted to its story. 

 

Did I read someone mention the king is slow, he's not slow!! As he learns everything all at once, he needs to figure it out before taking some right actions. It should be known that he doesn't know much information like us who watched all LR's did. He doesn't have screen which plays the episodes like us. Lol. I mean it's natural how he acts that way. He did takes some precautions and has plan for it later. 

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16 hours ago, Dramafreak said:

Luna my guess is will help LR, check character description.

let's hope that later she will side with JTE and ruin that Dark  prince plan ...

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2 hours ago, Hachiko said:

Omg yes!!!!! That means the swap of JY and JES. JY stays and corporates with JTE and SJ (?maybe), ES leaves with LG and takes the role of Unbreakable Sword for real .

 

I must say it takes me so much bravery and brain to keep watching this drama as I go against many of my K-drama friends (they gave up) and I have to rewatch again and again to think about the plot. That’s how I love this drama - making me curious and can never give up till I understand .

 

To be honest, I like how natural JTE is, I like her natural look (so authentic), I like LG (although I am not a fan of LMH), this role is really for LMH acting, being slow, calm, elegant, not expressive, all those should be how a King looks like and act upon. I like all characters and stories involving them, each one plays important key to the whole story. And my fav of course are JY and JES, always.

 

I feel like I have signed up for a module that is so tough and interesting at the same time. Many students may drop but many stay too. I must go to class every Fri, Sat, do so much homework (rewatch and analyze) and have group assignment, group discussion (@soompi) in order to pass the module with flying colors. Let’s wish that our module will have all student score A+ with happy ending. That’s more meaningful than the rating to me.

 

 

@Hachiko Yea !! I just hope with all my heart that neither ES or JY dies because then all types of crazy stuff could happen!! For example in this show called Game of Thrones (dont know if you watch this show or not), but there is this queen named Queen Daenerys who has a right hand man who is her closest most loyal friend who ends up getting killed protecting her and well after that she changes her kind demeanor into a one of fiery vengeance. So if JY gets killed, LG might just be the same way and go down a path of fiery vengeance too. AHH !!!

 

I totally understand that this show feels like a course haha. Literally TKEM is filled with so many Easter eggs, symbolism, and imagery in every episode so of course you have to rewatch every episode and analyze them. I just finally convinced one of my friends who has never watch kdramas before to watch TKEM because he was able to concisely predict how Game of Thrones would end without ever seeing any leaks or spoilers......so im hoping he can predict how TKEM will end haha. We even made a bet that if he correctly predicts the ending of TKEM, he will get $100 (so im hoping he won't be right :joy:)

 

I also love JY and ES too!!! The opposite personalities is just amazing and WDH delivers an amazing performance !!!! :heart:

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2 hours ago, mrsj3n said:

 

Actually come to think of it.

When LG first met Luna, it wasn't planned. 

Luna was just running away from the group of gangsters.

 

And someone pointed out that LR was at the scene of rowing competition, so what are the chances that he had someone donning the rabbit jacket outfit to lure LG out the 2nd time?

 

And talking about LR's long stewing of coup.

I'm thinking that LR is trying to swap people here and there so that he will has supporters who will support him taking the throne since he has money and power to overthrow LG.

Either by force abdication because of money and power or poison since so many minions seems to be inside the palace as well.

 

Or he didn't know the whereabouts of the other half of the flute until LG crossed over.

So now he know LG has the possession of the half flute, maybe that is when he will speed things up faster? 

 

@romance06 yes! Great mind.

I also wonder if LR actually like the Queen back in Corea and since he can't have her in Corea, he is keeping the mirror image of her alive.

 

@mrsj3n I dont know if LR can force abdication through money though because as that random girl says, the LG has like quadrillions of dollars ....wish we were all that lucky haha. Speaking of money, I also thought it was interesting how that LR minion told LG that he doesn't feel sorry for him for him for losing his father because LG was born into great position, power, and wealth. However, despite having all of that what truly matters to LG is not those things, rather it is the people he loves that matters. 

 

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My ideal ending would be JTE and LG getting marry as a symbolism of uniting two worlds (how sweet would it be for LG to have both JY and ES to be the groomsman and Nari to be maid of honor) and then they would have a kid (as to bring relief to head court Lady Noh's worries of no heirs). And in the ending scene, LG and JTE would read the story "Alice in Wonderland" to their child as a way to tell he or she of their love story.  This probably won't happen, but one can only hope !!:heart::love:

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12 hours ago, kboramint said:

Did they ever explain how the girl who works at the alley (cafe) can afford two expensive cars?? 


In South Korea public transportation works so well and taxis are so cheap that many people don't have a car, or even a driving license. As far as I know, foreign (imported) cars have always been expensive, traditionally because they are heavily taxed by the government in an attempt to make local producers (Hyundai/Kia) more competitive. There are specific restrictions on Japanese cars (you can't bring your own Japanese car to Korea even if you move there for a long period).

Twenty years ago, buying a foreign car was considered "extravagant" and generally frown upon by the middle class (and you risked a tax audit if you bought one!). Now things are slowly changing, and the market is growing more import-oriented than before: affluent South Koreans consider European luxury cars to be a status symbol, so they buy them anyway.

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11 pages worth of Data tremendous !!

 

My stance on LG not getting fleshed out ,  I think he is enough fleshed out but to have a blueprint for his character as traumatized KING is wrong in the aspect that he is not a normal person. He is the KING he had to overcome his traumas to server his Country. That always comes first and should.! Other than being a King with open adoration for JTE, getting mad at JY and loving him as a brother equally , also having a weird fascination with Chicken (At this point chicken is also a main character), his layers or trauma can only been shown when he deals with the murderers (Notice his hand clutching his FluteStick to kill the restaurant owner guy in episode 8, when he Himself wants to kill him, but because of Him being a KING he orders him to commit suicide and even stops JY who is fully in tune with his Pyeha's emotions and wanted to kill that guy)

 

LMH not getting screen time or more fleshed out part, Character Ji-Hun may be able to able to do so, but if Ji-Hun is also a criminal , then LMH and KGE character opposite will be very similar, I am not sure if the writer wrote both Luna and Ji-Hun a street criminal? The acting chops can be freely expressed there I believe.

 

Similarly assuming JY and ES were swapped just because JY has a hardcore shell instead of the babbling 4 year old whom King LG met is wrong because as a Royal Guard you cannot be all bubbly and mischievous. Although HE does seem cheeky around Nari (Totally pulled a KIM TAN on her and I love that) at places and we can see him being all mad at ES in the little interaction they have about Nari in episode 8 ( throwback to when baby JY shouted at LG stating IS THE WHOLE PALACE Yours?)

 

Shin-Jae is the second lead unfortunately not JY atleast in the first half that is why his background story is focused more, the only complaint it irks a lot of  because LG is not so let's say traumatically explored more or is as mysterious background story like his. For eg, if LG and Ji-Hun were swapped like SJ it could have had more impact for those who do not find SJ that important, then this story would have been Prince and Pauper rather than a TKEM. But stating all that TKEM does not have King being swapped initially does not make sense with the storyline. So its Ok.

 

Less Confusion, more tagline needed in the show, had the creators placed a Tag below stating KOC and ROK when scene swaps , GP would have understood it more maybe, maybe not. After Finale they could make it a 2 hour movie with taglines and doppelganger 1/2 info with tags below to make it more understandable, this story is a GEM TBH.

 

I don't mind less romance, because I don't feel the pull here yet. Time Loop may make me feel this because as prominent it is for me in LG's character graph that he misses his father and retrained himself to be the king the instant he saw his father being dead , its just not the same with TE separation yet. That is not so say about chemistry or storyline, I just don't get the tragic pull I had with Grimreaper Sunny in Goblin or maybe a Joon-Jae Shim Chung in LOTBS. EVERY Actor is so daymn amazing here , hats off for pulling even the minute gestures f the characters. They just breathe life onto them.

 

( I find that with KES, I don't feel much connect with main OTP but I always feel pull with the second leads, this has happened in atleast 3 shows , so that is just me maybe, she weaves the STORY so beautifully though OTP goes with the story's flow unlike PJE wherein story is cliche and not out of the box but OTP love-story is the only reason which makes me hang on to it again have experience with her around 3 series. )

 

Hoping to see till end of 16 for TKEM without any interruptions despite rating and all that jazz.Fingers Crossed.

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2 hours ago, Hachiko said:

5 people JTE add number to LG phone, she told him that these 5 numbers will help him. I cant really recall all 5 but include SJ number.

I can't share the screenshoot of LG phone but I can recall all 5 numbers JTE, SJ, Taekwondo Center, Nari, and Eun Seop 

 

12 minutes ago, Alice Wonderland said:

Did I read someone mention the king is slow, he's not slow!! As he learns everything all at once, he needs to figure it out before taking some right actions. It should be known that he doesn't know much information like us who watched all LR's did. He doesn't have screen which plays the episodes like us. Lol. I mean it's natural how he acts that way. He did takes some precautions and has plan for it later. 

yesss, he's not slow, he's smart enough and fast learner because he doesn't know much information and it's already 24 years (?) that LR back to back between ROC and KOC, prepared and made a plan but LG can make some hypothesis and conclusion about what already happened in just a short amount of time, for me LG is a good enough as a observer and analyst   

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, mychoiyoung said:

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY EVERYONE!


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4 hours ago, SweetButters said:

So does anyone here think its just weird how LG acted after the whole telling the LR minion he gives him a suicide order? Like LG just goes and has coffee or whatever with JTE and casually jokes and chat with her like nothing happened. 

Enjoyed ur post. Not sure about the girl, i have given up on recognizing lookalikes :D

 

As for the quote above: i think LG and JTE are still not sharing everything. LG doesnt coz he doesnt want to burden her and he realizes that this is dangerous. She doesnt want to be micromanaged and he just wants to ensure her safety. When she says I love you, in that sequence she asks what did they do and LG hides that he fought with the gang. Now i think the gangster might also play a more significant role!!

 

To me the panic in his VO during the SJ-JY-LG scene at the end of episode 8 expresses how he hadnt realized the depth/seriousness of the situation. 

 

And i think we are heading for a genre change wherein humour would go down. 

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1 hour ago, Ima04 said:

Sorry to cut your post short.

 

Based on the preview, it is possible that they swap places since ES looks weird according to NR and JY act unusual with his underling.

 

Probably it is kind of premonition also since ES wanted to be KoC citizen LoL.

And thus ES can be with SeungAh that fangirling JY thus the real JY that i think started to take interest into NR can go with her. Win win solution 

 

 

At the moment, I think they swap for the timebeing only so that JY can stay in Korea to look for LR, ES goes to Corea to help the King cover the absence of JY to not create rumor and alert to LR.

 

But if ES develops his feeling for the Media girl and JY develops his love for Nari then the writer nim really has so much thing to settle for all characters to have a decent happy ending lol. Wow, I really can’t take my eyes off this drama to see how the writer solves and wrap up everything!!! 

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4 hours ago, scrawford said:

The potential is there, but they have too much stuff to cover and unfortunately the Romance has to take a backseat and aside from taking a backseat, the moments they have it's not greatly executed.

 

I’ve got to disagree with you. The drama has allocated  more screen times for the main leads’ storyline than other sub plots. However, the chemistry and acting are not there. Hence, the lukewarm response. 

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Posted (edited)

 

 

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Since there has been talk of switching places between JY & ES... 

 

1 hour ago, gtLmh0622 said:

 

 

Lee Min Ho updated his IG account.

Maybe the stars will take away your sorrow
Maybe the flowers will fill your atrium with beauty
Or maybe hopes will dry your tears forever
But the most important thing is

Silence will make you stronger.

 

I think he exactly knows what his fans thinking about the drama. So he post this.

And this is very LMH - silent but strong.  How a warm and thoughtful person we love.  :heart: 

 

 

That is very thoughtful of him.

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Another thought is maybe beside creating his own army, Lee Rim is gathering people who has the same faces with people close to LG to make him weaker when the final battle arrives. Like if the woman who has the same face with his mother tries to kill him, LR hopes that LG wouldn't have the heart to hurt her. 

 

The same applies for Luna who he wishes to recruit (or has, already). 

 

1 hour ago, Alice Wonderland said:

I might be quite selfish but yes I like this idea. Honestly, I've thought about this too before. I told myself as long as our couple ended happy then this will do. But of course we can't close our eyes with the Luna's crime history. Even there must be some reason that lead her to be evil she does wrong and that won't be fair if she would be just forgiven without any consequences. Because if she ends up taking TE's place and be the cops. She won't get to pay her wrong doings. But everything could be possible here, huh. She's been in jail for her crimes before. So now she can start a new. 

 

 

That's how I would write it if I were the writer, haha. 

 

Luna has paid for her crimes, she just left the jail. We'll see what her choices might be. 

 

Ah, can't wait for ep 9!

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Unlurking again, have a few questions, may be some of you know the answer? 

 

What's with number 17? 

 

JTE trying to call LG, 17 times when she was in Seoul station, then her 17 rules to LG? Why 17 when LG has only 2. It's such a random number  What's so special about 17? Did you see any hints about this on the previous episodes? Do you think this will be significant in the future? Or maybe it's just KES favorite number?  Haha 

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34 minutes ago, mamabear said:

Unlurking again, have a few questions, may be some of you know the answer? 

 

What's with number 17? 

 

JTE trying to call LG, 17 times when she was in Seoul station, then her 17 rules to LG? Why 17 when LG has only 2. It's such a random number  What's so special about 17? Did you see any hints about this on the previous episodes? Do you think this will be significant in the future? Or maybe it's just KES favorite number?  Haha 

And I thought this show only focused on 0-1 and euler's number, here we also have The twin flame number 17 :blink:( Like Goblin had number 9), maybe the significance is not spiritual related more scientific maybe?

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1 hour ago, gtLmh0622 said:

Lee Min Ho updated his IG account.

Maybe the stars will take away your sorrow
Maybe the flowers will fill your atrium with beauty
Or maybe hopes will dry your tears forever
But the most important thing is

Silence will make you stronger.

 

I think he exactly knows what his fans thinking about the drama. So he post this.

And this is very LMH - silent but strong.  How a warm and thoughtful person we love.  :heart: 


 

Hey guys.. I read from an IG post where fans commented that the poem he posted is a poem from Goblin... Additionally he is also listening to the ost of TKEM in the video.

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1 hour ago, INeedAFan said:

 

I’ve got to disagree with you. The drama has allocated  more screen times for the main leads’ storyline than other sub plots. However, the chemistry and acting are not there. Hence, the lukewarm response. 

 

You have been coming in here nonstop why don't you search for something that suits you. There are plenty of series airing now no need to get obsessed with this one. Find what you like and do you 

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