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That awkward moment when you got caught staring at your "crush" and now you have to pretend like you're looking at someone else.   

Once again  . . . sub spoilers.   I won't be able to do this every weekend, but I just had to share (so enjoy the Kookmin moments).  Besides,  these sub spoilers are never as good as watching the epis

3 hours ago, MandelBrot said:

kjk with sjh and somin with sechan... i knew it XD

To me it was inevitable. I think part of the reason is to maybe protect Somin from the haters? We all know RM is notorious for the JK JH ship even when there is nothing going on between them. I think Somin and sechan are playing their part well though lol

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Speaking about Somin x Sechan, this is the second time they lose on the couple awards. When I was watching the show, I’m 98% percent sure Sechan talked about Somin winning that same award with Kwangsoo. And for a split second, I thought to myself, “hmmm, maybe that’s why Chanmin can’t win the award.” Then I remember it’s SBS we’re talking about :lol: SBS doesn’t care what people say about the members, so it’s obvious that’s not what stopping them. 
 

So I continued thinking about it, and I honestly I don’t have a clue on why Chanmin didn’t win the award hahaha SBS even did a huge Chanmin compilation which garnered a lot of views. 
 

I’ll be truthful and say that in the back of my heart, I didn’t want them to win :/ I would’ve obviously been happy for them if they did win, but, my fear was that a win would make RM push the loveline even stronger.
So now I wonder, will RM stop the loveline? 

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8 hours ago, HappyVirusRM said:

Speaking about Somin x Sechan, this is the second time they lose on the couple awards. When I was watching the show, I’m 98% percent sure Sechan talked about Somin winning that same award with Kwangsoo. And for a split second, I thought to myself, “hmmm, maybe that’s why Chanmin can’t win the award.” Then I remember it’s SBS we’re talking about :lol: SBS doesn’t care what people say about the members, so it’s obvious that’s not what stopping them. 
 

So I continued thinking about it, and I honestly I don’t have a clue on why Chanmin didn’t win the award hahaha SBS even did a huge Chanmin compilation which garnered a lot of views. 
 

I’ll be truthful and say that in the back of my heart, I didn’t want them to win :/ I would’ve obviously been happy for them if they did win, but, my fear was that a win would make RM push the loveline even stronger.
So now I wonder, will RM stop the loveline? 

Hi,

 

Yes, Sechan mentioned the 2017 CP award for Somin & Kwangsoo. But I think a celeb can still get 2 CP awards with different people, although not easy since the chemistry needed is very high. Actually, i think Sechan's words help to serve a reminder that on-screen CP is for the show/reel life and should not be taken as the gospel truth for real life (maybe he and Somin really wants to maintain as friends, not as romantic partners which others keep pushing?)

 

However, for many fans who watch both MUD and RM, it is rather clear cut that Won Hee will win the CP award - their chemistry really outscored Chanmin CP. So congratulations to them coz I really enjoyed his CP performances in MUD. :thumbsup:

 

Unfortunately, unless Somin or Sechan have a significant other or other CP lines in other shows, I think RM will still continue to push Chanmin. Not sure why, but Korean shows seems to have a pre-conceived notion that their shows must have a CP couple (can be non-romantic), so RM seems to be left with Chanmin. Actually, winning a CP award will mean that RM will stop pushing the loveline - the shows will need to look for fresh lovelines to push. Hence, the best way for Chanmin to stop is to actually win Best CP award.:sweat:

 

Hence, I hope the pressure does not get to them - it is not easy to achieve the level of chemistry and teamwork needed for winning the CP award. If you look at MUD, they are not the champion SBS show for nothing - 3 consecutive wins for Best CP award (2018 KJK-HJY / 2019 LSM-TJH / 2020 IWH-JSY)  :glasses: And fans who watched MUD will know the level of chemistry these 3 CP displayed are really no joke, so i hope RM will strike a balance when pushing Chanmin and not over-push to the point whereby it drowned out their other personas and chemistry with other RM members.

 

Meanwhile, congratulations to KJK and HH!!! :love::love: They really deserved the awards, in fact, many had said that it really came so late for them.. All the best for RM and hope they continue improving and getting better. 

 

P.S. Really loved it that YJS announced and gave to KJK. Awww my YJS-KJK CP......:blush: and great that KJK won the award. Perhaps now left is for him to get married (hopefully next year).

 

Thanks very much.

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27 minutes ago, AB_fan said:

Hi,

 

Yes, Sechan mentioned the 2017 CP award for Somin & Kwangsoo. But I think a celeb can still get 2 CP awards with different people, although not easy since the chemistry needed is very high. Actually, i think Sechan's words help to serve a reminder that on-screen CP is for the show/reel life and should not be taken as the gospel truth for real life (maybe he and Somin really wants to maintain as friends, not as romantic partners which others keep pushing?)

 

However, for many fans who watch both MUD and RM, it is rather clear cut that Won Hee will win the CP award - their chemistry really outscored Chanmin CP. So congratulations to them coz I really enjoyed his CP performances in MUD. :thumbsup:

 

Unfortunately, unless Somin or Sechan have a significant other or other CP lines in other shows, I think RM will still continue to push Chanmin. Not sure why, but Korean shows seems to have a pre-conceived notion that their shows must have a CP couple (can be non-romantic), so RM seems to be left with Chanmin. Actually, winning a CP award will mean that RM will stop pushing the loveline - the shows will need to look for fresh lovelines to push. Hence, the best way for Chanmin to stop is to actually win Best CP award.:sweat:

 

Hence, I hope the pressure does not get to them - it is not easy to achieve the level of chemistry and teamwork needed for winning the CP award. If you look at MUD, they are not the champion SBS show for nothing - 3 consecutive wins for Best CP award (2018 KJK-HJY / 2019 LSM-TJH / 2020 IWH-JSY)  :glasses: And fans who watched MUD will know the level of chemistry these 3 CP displayed are really no joke, so i hope RM will strike a balance when pushing Chanmin and not over-push to the point whereby it drowned out their other personas and chemistry with other RM members.

 

Meanwhile, congratulations to KJK and HH!!! :love::love: They really deserved the awards, in fact, many had said that it really came so late for them.. All the best for RM and hope they continue improving and getting better. 

 

P.S. Really loved it that YJS announced and gave to KJK. Awww my YJS-KJK CP......:blush: and great that KJK won the award. Perhaps now left is for him to get married (hopefully next year).

 

Thanks very much.

I slightly disagree when you said for them to stop being shipped they need to win. Slightly because I think it's more down to the production team and members.

 

I believe the KS SM ship was highlighted in the first SBS award ceremony RM attended after getting new members. Their ship won the award (even though they were not being forced like chanmin was). Then somehow at the second award ceremony they were still being talked about. The MCs teased the KS SM ship about it and they were made to seem real (hence KS's dating announcement the following week or so).

 

Basically once you win the best couple award and you are on RM, it's going to keep coming back.

 

Notice the MC ship and KJK HJY ship kept coming up even after their wins.

 

My thing is that, since ysc and sm did not win as best couple, they should drop the act and shine as individuals and/ or friends for the sake of their chemistry. It's better natural than forced and I know ysc does take good care of Somin off screen and sometimes on screen.

 

I pray the members take a hint about chanmin otherwise I sense next year they may really try to push for their win.

 

KJK and SM on the other hand would have been strong contenders because their relationship transformed the most on the show and it wasn't forced either. However, this is just me but, I feel RM production team nipped kookmin in the bud early on. They did not want them to be seen romantically. On the other hand Ive always wondered about that kookmin compilation - super chemistry? If you don't want to ship them on the show why make such a romantic compilation in the first place? Very interesting...lol

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Ok, so no one shoot the messenger (a.k.a. get upset with me), but I watched the SBS award show with subtitles.  There is good news and something that left me confused and might be bad. 

 

Good news always first.

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SO I will start with the good news first. . .Chanmin LL is dead or at least acknowledged as business relationship.  The announcers stated that they liked them as a romantic couple, but now it seems that they are more of a business couple.  The show is heavily scripted (they even said that they were sticking to script).  So, this appears that SBS has sanctioned the end of Chanmin as being a real romantic couple.  Also, YSC did ask JSM about her past award with LKS.  YSC asked her, out of everyone in Running Man who would she want to get best couple with and she said him because they worked hard this year.   If JSM really had feelings for YSC, then she would not have added the last part about it being work, and would have just left it at she picked him.  When the MC said, that if they are going for Best Couple they should stand closer YSC said no because of social distance protocols and getting in trouble.  This is probably true but they are both making it clear that what they have is work/friendship. 

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They do a greeting then they start to gently heckle each other. lol  JSM starts it. 
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So I included the image below because it is obvious that she is not looking at the camera and at the running man table. Delulu mind says KJK. haha
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One of the hosts asks the question below and I have included the response. 
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They cut to KJK when they said this and he was nodding his head up and down in agreement with the statement that they are working. 
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Now for the confusing/bad . . . to be fair I got about two hours of sleep last night (unrelated to Kookmin haha) so my thoughts and concerns could be lack of sleep induced.  However, I like hearing people's thoughts on this forum because we discuss things calmly and maturely. 

 

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Now for the bad news. . .they (MUD, SBS, and Jessi's show) are trying to push KJK and Jessie together.  Let me first say, that I am fan of both of them and they do have really good chemistry together.  Secondly, I just want KJK to be happy and I am thrilled about him winning the Grand Award!!  This is what happened at the award show. 

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So, this has me a little confused because I am not sure if this is another LL or something else/maybe real.

 

Jessi is very honest/blunt person and so is KJK, which I like about both of them.  They have both said really wonderful things about the other (MUD and Jessi's show Ep 39) and according to them both they are single.  Why I am confused is because they do get along so well and KJK laughs hard and seems genuinely happy when he is around Jessi.  It would be hypocritical of me to say that it means something when it is with JSM and then not to acknowledge it when I see it with others like Jessi. JSM and Jessi are the only two women that I have seen him react this way.  Other people that he has had a LL with he does not seem this happy.  Yes, I know that he and JSM are not a LL, but as of right now neither is he and Jessi.  

 

 What I will say, is that KJK is more comfortable with skinship with JSM on TV than he is with Jessi.  Also, I am not sure that this is not an attempt at a LL.  The problem HJY is currently facing with accusations of plagiarism has meant that she has been missing from MUD (TBH I did not watch the episode last week).  So, I am wondering if they are trying to give him another LL for MUD because Jessi has been a guest and appeared on the show.   In both instances, she drew a line saying that they wouldn't work, and it seems like she is doing that here as well.  

 

This brings me to my final and most worried thought.  I have assumed that KJK and JSM are dating.  However, this makes me question that because we all know that JSM and Jessi are friends.  I could never see Jessi being okay with a LL or really flirting with KJK, if she knew that he was with someone (particularly JSM).  It would just be hella weird/awkward.  I know that in the past he has had a LL while dating other people irl.  At least the LL with SJH has been around for a long time so there must have been some overlap (please correct me if I am wrong).  This idea of KJK being in a LL with a friend of the girl that he is dating would just take the bizarreness of the Kshow biz to a level I could never imagine, but I am also new to all of this.  

 

So, I am basically laying out all my thoughts because I want help from the collective here.  Was this an attempt to shut down rumors of them together or to start floating the idea of them together?  If they are pushing them together, then is this a real thing or LL.  If it is a LL, then would KJK be okay pursuing another woman on TV while dating her friend (feel like the answer is no to the last part of this question)?

 

Let me be clear, I am not jumping ship! I just need other people's thoughts because I don't know if I am missing something or if this would be common practice in Kbiz.  The worst thing that will happen for me as a Kookmin shipper is that I have to revise my opinion on their dating status. Instead of saying that they are dating, I would just say that they have the potential to date (which I am okay with).  However, I am not okay with turning a blind eye and acting like I don't see what is happening between Jessi and KJK.  I still think that JSM and KJK are the best match!! :) 

 

 

If I am awake in a couple of hours when the subs for running man are up, then I will try and get those Kookmin interactions up.   If I don't, well, then I am sleeping haha.  

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@Catch-22 I love Jessi because of her friendship with Somin. I don't know why MUD push Jessi to JK so hard but from JK's side, he already said clearly during tarot card reading, it is not Jessi when Tak Jae Hoon pressured him. So obvious during that segment, JK was thinking about somebody. And lets not forget, there is 'her' that he always think when he goes to beautiful place (MUD 198). And this is also before Jessi.

 

And like usual, this sorta LL is pushed by everyone but him. Jessi said she has crush on him. Then Tak Jae Hoon and Lee Sang Min pressured him, Mobidic PD gave questions directing to this 'LL'. Then Seo Jang Hoon asked on stage, live. Always everyone but him. And after observing him, though he reluctant with the LL, he didn't say no directly to the lady's face (except JH). He didn't want to hurt the lady's feeling. So he just laugh.

 

Also JK laugh hard because of Jessi is not weird because he and Jessi are friend for a while already. But to know who is his favourite among two, ep 514 in perfect episode to watch. Jessi came as a guest but JK and Somin stick together during opening and closing though they were in different team. Though Jessi danced Nunu Nana at the front, JK more curious on Somin who tried to immitate Jessi's dance beside him.

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From my perspective it’s a new loveline that’s currently being pushed by SBS because their previous popular KJK loveline (jinkook) can’t continue anymore due to HJY’s current situation. Overall I don’t think it’s that big of a deal tbh.

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@kyoko22Thank you!!  :approves:An hour nap and waking up to your words helped me.  It is funny how much you forget when you are sleep deprived.  I had forgotten most of what you had mentioned and in particular this below.  

1 hour ago, kyoko22 said:

lets not forget, there is 'her' that he always think when he goes to beautiful place (MUD 198). And this is also before Jessi.

 

Looking at the awards show now, it is really all good news (KJK's well deserved award and officially Chanmin is Business Only :issohappy:).   They can push a LL but that doesn't mean anything :P.

It is just annoying because I want KJK to be happy, and as he has said over and over he wants something to happen naturally.  However, these shows always try to push him into LL.  I am off to get screen shots of the subbed RM episode this week!

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never posted here before (hi!) but was watching today's episode and had to share these cute moments

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jk was making mistakes during foot volleyball and kept getting upset and somin said he looks so attractive and humane when he plays

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seokjin made a mistake and blamed somin and jk yelled at him and said dont disrespect her :rolleyes:

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2 hours ago, Rumble fish said:

From my perspective it’s a new loveline that’s currently being pushed by SBS because their previous popular KJK loveline (jinkook) can’t continue anymore due to HJY’s current situation. Overall I don’t think it’s that big of a deal tbh.

For me what I have noticed is that if SBS tries to ship two single people together the more they are likely to be a business couple. JK and HJY were the same to me. He may have entertained the idea of the two of them possibly being together but it always felt one sided to me. Not to say more than that because I'm just a viewer but I noticed JK cut off the HJY ship after the last sbs award when she gave a superficial reason why she liked him (cannot remember what it was but it was not a  sincere reason in my opinion) 

 

Jaesuk said it himself on RM: JK and HJY should not date and JK agreed telling the PDs of not to cut this bit out. Then jaesuk said KS and Somin shouldn't date either and we all know how that turned out. As if Jaesuk was hinting to the viewers not to get their hopes up.

 

It's okay for JK to be friendly with other females because he's Mature enough to know not to over step boundaries for the sake of whoever he may be interested in pursuing in my opinion. 

 

Jessi is a cool girl and I feel she will be the type to keep her relationship s private (don't ask me why though, I just feel that way lol) but if they keep pushing her and JK don't you get a feeling that jessi may end up shutting it down because of her bluntness? Lol. I think she is at an admiring stage with JK and it's cute we shouldn't take it too seriously.

 

So far nothing is set. I will just enjoy the silent  chemistry between Somin and Jong kook on RM hehe.

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This was a hilarious episode and I wish they would do more stuff like this (sometimes the hidden spy gets repetitive).  Anyway, there are some interesting subs today.  Some have already been mentioned and those were awesome moments.  Kookmin today was so amazing and just what I needed!

 

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You know they were talk/joking about JSM not being good but she did really well this episode.  Her biggest misstep was not staying on her original team (she knows that KJK would protect so this was risk she took haha).

 

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I believe that is KJK saying this below, but look at his eyes and smile.  If anyone is seduced it is not the owners. That smirk . . .:hwaiting2:
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KJK says at one and point other that she might have dated (past tense) some ball players.  However, he says something later that make me think he was also talking about himself (maybe).

 

 

These are some intro rules to picking teams. 
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This is when it was JSM's turn and she says cheerleader but her throwing says I practiced playing baseball.  I bring this up later with a comment by KJK.
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KJK says this about SJH below and others quickly back up the statement.
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JSM is being her hilarious self and when others were laughing/slightly making fun of her KJK very matter  of factly says she should be a comedienne.  It really came off as more of defense of her and recognition of her abilities. 
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JSM is so much more and she proves it below. . .such a BadA$$!!

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Ok the way KJK said this below I 100% thought he was talking about himself.  You know 100% for sure she played catch. . . hmm.  First, he doesn't say ex or former boyfriend.  Second, the tone in his voice was almost like he was proud of himself as much as he was with her.  It gave me so many feels.  Also, you can tell that she has practiced some baseball skills for this episode (I think she is very athletic and picks up sports quickly since she has shown improvement in other sport type games).  
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KJK explains his absence but what I find interesting is that only JSM feels the need to approach him as he enters. 
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Alright, the statement above is so true but hilariously his team lost every game today except the last one. lol This didn't have to deal with Kookmin but I just thought it was funny because it was like he jinxed the team by saying these things. 
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This should be surprising because everyone else was annoyed with him, but not JSM she was smiles and laughter at his behavior.  The only one she got slightly annoyed with during the game was SJS. 


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I like that she loves him more when he is not perfect and as she said more humane/human. :)  Also, I did not include the images but she called him oppa like four times when he kept messing up.  I know it doesn't necessarily mean anything but the tone was an affectionate frustrated tone.  Image your significant other going Hoonneeyy . . .in that tone like I love you but really!!!




They switch sides and SJS misses the ball this is where he lightly pushes her with his finger. 
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This is JSM trying to calm KJK down. 
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Even after JSM switched teams KJK still protected and cheered her on as he does. 


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JSM says this above. 
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So JSM misses and messes up.  We have seen it time and again he yells at everyone else but not JSM.  Even when he shows disapproval she is laughing.  Others are afraid of him, but JSM knows that she is safe from his real anger. Why is that . . . well we all know the answer. 

 

 

I just want to include this score that he makes below just to give a taste to the intensity he had today.  Again, never took it out on JSM.
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He is getting a high-five from a Major League Baseball player and he is almost immediately looking for JSM to celebrate with.  These two are so adorable. 


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YJS trying to make excuses for KJK's behavior lmao. 


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So they must have know that this would air after the awards show because everyone referred to their LL/relationship in past tense today. 
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JSM chimes in with the comment about unconditional love.  They are reading each others minds and my delulu mind is that he loves any team that includes him and JSM haha. 

 

 

Below is KJK scolding her for messing up the game (she is trying not to laugh) but KJK takes winning seriously and the thought of losing JSM (sadly he does lose her to the other team). 
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So now they are on opposite Teams, and I could be misunderstanding this but it sounds like KJK is the one cheering her on when she is first up to bat. 
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She gets lightly hit but it is not clear if it should allow her to get a base because she swung.  Normally, KJK would push back if he thought something would cost his team potential victory.  However, if you look at what he does and says below.  Well, he definitely giving JSM a pass and he was calming down others that wanted to dispute the call by the umpire. 
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Now, there were a lot of people talking so it might have been KJK that said most of this.  However, by his actions he is obviously trying let JSM have the base.  This not typical behavior for KJK especially for this episode and how much he loves his . . . team.  


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OK, I love SJH face here because she is really confused, as am I (but not really), why KJK is cheering on JSM (KJK is in the outfield behind SJH) since they are on different teams.  I totally had to rewind this twice because I was just as confused. LMAO

 

Once again, they are now exes. haha
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That might be true but JSM today I feel like kookmin shipper winner!  Kookmin clan Fighting!! haha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Lulu lolly said:

Jessi is a cool girl and I feel she will be the type to keep her relationship s private (don't ask me why though, I just feel that way lol) but if they keep pushing her and JK don't you get a feeling that jessi may end up shutting it down because of her bluntness? Lol.


That’s actually what happened with HJY like a couple days after they won their best couple award lol. She was very blunt about their relationship being pretty much just a senior/junior relationship. And basically emphasised that their loveline was a thing of the past and that he wasn’t her type. Which is why their loveline went cold for a little while.
 

But yeah all lovelines are just business at the end of the day so there’s no need to worry about them too much. 

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Jessi popularity has heighten especially this year to next. She is getting more recognised and popular. Her different personality and western mindset have brought up curiosity and uniqueness about her. 

 

Her pattern is quite similar to Hong Jin-young when she joined the MUD due to her love interest with Jong kook. She was a guest at first then became full time member when her mom agreed to come. 

 

Variety shows especially MUD will always expect a change in lineup due to old age, member getting married, schedule conflict, or scandal. Even before Hong Jin young's scandal, there is interest in Jessi when she came to the show as a guest. She became love interest of Jong Kook due to her familiarity with him. I do think he is her type.  However, she is closer to Jong Kook due to his english skills and being raised in LA which is very similar to Jessi growing up in NY. They have a quite similar background. I think MUD is interested getting Jessi as a regular member or guest because her mom's in US. 

 

I think interest has heightened even more after Hong Jin young's scandal to bring Jessi in as replacement or regular guest (similar to Tak Joon and Won Hee). The ones who didnt have their mothers in the line-up yet. Variety shows are all about screen time and interest chemistry. Jessi's out of the world and cultural shock can build chemistry. And Jessi has thick skin handling the misunderstanding and all other weird stuff people became so dumbfounded with her. 

 

My take on Jong Kook and Jessi-- He is all about connection and chemistry. I do think Jong kook is Jessi's type. I think she respects him as elder rather than equal. I wish them the best if they ended up together.  He is very considerate and courteous with everyone. He would put them under his wing. Jessi is worthy of very respect she earned.  

 

Jong kook and Somin's chemistry is rather interesting. There are a lot of obvious signs of their chemistry over the time especially the marriage part, do you like her, and other natural interactions with each other. But they were never considered as loveline. 

 

The way they create loveline for Sechan and Somin, it is forced comparing to Jong kook defending and caring for Somin. It is how they are trying to create something that doesn't exist. They said Somin and Sechan are in romantic date, but they didnt act that way. When it comes to Jong kook and Somin's interaction- there was nothing forced to call out on Jong kook for caring Somin that she is also at fault. No one creates chemistry or loveline or tease Jong Kook for acting that way towards Somin. If Jong Kook acts this way to Jihyo or female guests or even Jessi- there will be huge LOVELINE. Everyone will be so repetitive and annoying. For Somin-- it comes one time and everyone forgot about it completely. Jong kook has a lot of official lovelines: Jin Young, Jessi, Jihyo, and Ailee.  It reminds me years ago that Jong Kook's manager asked Jong Kook who was his type among running man members without mentioning Somin's name. The manager even mention the guests but Somin's a regular member. It was quite odd for me because what's the harm to put Somin in one of the choices whether he hates her or not. It would be obvious he wont choose her.  It is quite weird because people are usually polite that way to mention everyone's name. I am not going on and on... but i guess you know what i mean. 

 

It is interesting and contrasting of how they deal with Chan-Min and Kook-Min. 

 

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