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16 minutes ago, kyoko22 said:

I can't believe I miss some little detail. JK brought Somin's book into the studio room. At first, I don't want to make that gesture a big deal since all the members were rushing to sit om the circle. So, maybe JK doesn't want to waste time to pass the book to his staff. And why should he pass to book to RM staff since it was his personal item.

 

Then some details came to my mind. Didn't he call his stylist to get the clothes from changing room? He can just pass the book to the stylist at that time. He had the chance to pass the book but for whatever reason, he kept it and read it during filming. This just make his gesture even more sweeter. :wub:

 

The game itself is funny. It feels like he is replacing it with his phone he was always glued with.  Hehe. I think he is doing PPL reminding the viewers to buy the book because it is so interesting but hard to understand. =) He is so sweet to promote the book like he knows SOmin's agency is not doing anything to promote her book. He is so cute. If Jaesuk leads to promote the book, he would only read its excerpt and give the book back. Jong Kook wanted to show he is serious about it! He is obviously reading it when no one tease him. Even Kwangsoo and Sukjin. Maybe Jong Kook knows that Jaesuk won't promote the book properly. That is why he took the action on his own. Kwangsoo just called HaNa's radio that Somin forced him to talk about the book. It is not helping with credibility. Jaesuk will just read it and will get criticism for promoting. Jong Kook did it for a reason that he could try to promote in his own accord naturally. And I do think it works and it was so sweet. They didn't blur the book at all. Thank you RM, Jong Kook, and the rest for helping to promote Somin's book. It is really interesting to read. I think he is trying to impress Somin's fans, and her family that he can do something for her. I think in the past he had a reputation for giving her hard time. Now he is just soften up naturally, and adores Somin. Probably he needs a goal to make Somin's mom to ask for his number instead. 

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That awkward moment when you got caught staring at your "crush" and now you have to pretend like you're looking at someone else.   

Once again  . . . sub spoilers.   I won't be able to do this every weekend, but I just had to share (so enjoy the Kookmin moments).  Besides,  these sub spoilers are never as good as watching the epis

I have that feeling, Jongkook oppa love her, my logical is why he read that book ?. Fortune teller about Somin in 2018 is her spouse like father and daughter, Jongkook like her father, he help her about her book. And in eps 490 he say " stop forcing them" . Interesting for me

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1 hour ago, Rahayu Muktiayu said:
I have that feeling, Jongkook oppa love her, my logical is why he read that book ?. Fortune teller about Somin in 2018 is her spouse like father and daughter, Jongkook like her father, he help her about her book. And in eps 490 he say " stop forcing them" . Interesting for me

As a long time Jong Kook, I do think that he is definitely attracted to her. But the fact that she's not necessarily the type he goes for, it's probably breaking his brain a little bit and he's just trying to process it all. 

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Not related to Kook-min: 

 

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/lee-kwang-soo-injures-ankle-in-car-accident-undergo-surgery/

 

Just the news came in, Kwangsoo was in car accident but has no other serious injuries but he is undergoing a surgery for his ankle. That'll affect his time with Running Man until he recovers. 

 

I think they would visit him while he is recovering. Probably feed him and cheer him up for a day. 

 

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Read some comments on YT for the ChanMin video. 99% of the comments are asking the RM team to stop pushing the LL and let the natural chemistry shine between all members, especially ChanMin who are clearly BFFs.

 

Just to put it out there. I miss the crazy SoMin. I loved that character of hers. 

I remember YJS saying in an episode that he wants to go on top of a mountain and scream 'Jeon So Min is crazzyyy'. :joy:

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1 hour ago, kukumarq1 said:

As a long time Jong Kook, I do think that he is definitely attracted to her. But the fact that she's not necessarily the type he goes for, it's probably breaking his brain a little bit and he's just trying to process it all. 

 

At least I hope he is way past denial period. And Somin is now being weird with her loveline. I mean... she is going back and forth with Chan-min loveline which she is supposed to be consistent. HaHa said it takes several times for Jong Kook to get interested. Not only one time, but several times with consistency, determination, hope, and patience. Jong Kook recently said he is more into dating someone he is comfortable with. It is sort of hearing he prefer dating a friend. No mistake that Somin is one of his. He kept on telling us how close he is with her. =)

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@kukumarq1 since you are long time Jong Kook's fan, I have seen one of the comments that Jong Kook does not prefer to date someone who has history with his friends. 

 

Does it affect Somin's chances with Jong kook because of her taffy like friendship with Sechan? It could be because both of them have not dated before. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Rahayu Muktiayu said:
I have that feeling, Jongkook oppa love her, my logical is why he read that book ?. Fortune teller about Somin in 2018 is her spouse like father and daughter, Jongkook like her father, he help her about her book. And in eps 490 he say " stop forcing them" . Interesting for me

 

Didn't Somin give everyone the book at the same time? 

 

Jong Kook is so cute to hide the book behind him. =) Maybe he was hiding from PD that they wouldn't stop him from doing it, and advise early on for Jaesuk to take over. =) Jong kook was so gung ho with promoting. Look at his gaze, body language, and tone of voice. He was in delight for real to find something so interesting to keep him entertained. It is like going back in time when cellphone wasn't use for self entertainment use. =) 

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5 minutes ago, JialingGO said:

@kukumarq1 since you are long time Jong Kook's fan, I have seen one of the comments that Jong Kook does not prefer to date someone who has history with his friends. 

 

Does it affect Somin's chances with Jong kook because of her taffy like friendship with Sechan? It could be because both of them have not dated before. 

 

 

When they say history, it's mostly when his friend has dated that girl, or had a crush. It's mostly cause his ex-girlfriend cheated on him with someone who he considered a good friend.

 

A loveline is just a scripted role that starts and ends on a show. 

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23 minutes ago, YellowDress said:

Read some comments on YT for the ChanMin video. 99% of the comments are asking the RM team to stop pushing the LL and let the natural chemistry shine between all members, especially ChanMin who are clearly BFFs.

 

Just to put it out there. I miss the crazy SoMin. I loved that character of hers. 

I remember YJS saying in an episode that he wants to go on top of a mountain and scream 'Jeon So Min is crazzyyy'. :joy:

 

In my opinion, I think Somin is trying to release from it. She got little annoying when going back and fourth. She kept on saying Sechan rejected me, my mom wants his number, we are not getting married, so forth. Sukjin helps to balance it out. I think the fans didn't catch how Sukjin helped to deal with forced loveline with Chan-min. It was all thanks to Sukjin. I credit him for that. 

 

Jaesuk and HaHa needs to take a note, but it is part of their variety persona. For HaHa, it makes sense because he does that consistently. And all loveline doesn't work for real. For Jaesuk- he is also like Somin, going back and forth. It could mean he is supporting Chan-min, increasing Sechan's screen time, or protecting natural kook-min chemistry. Chan-min works well with love triangle that Jong Kook and Somin can take turns taking bromance and romance with Sechan. I think they are looking for ways to team up together. Kook-min also has good on screen chemistry. 

 

My guess is that HaHa may purposely made it worse or uncomfortable for Chan-min for Kook-min sake? Somin and Sechan will always be friends even though things get awkward unless one of the dating is someone else. I don't think they will be awkward if one of them start dating someone else. They will remain close friends. 

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6 minutes ago, JialingGO said:

I am actually referring to Sechan and Somin's off screen close friendship. Just thinking if he would make jong kook hesitate even more? 

No. He's not that close-minded. As long as Sechan doesn't have real feelings for Somin, he probably won't mind dating her. 

 

If anything, it might make Jong Kook move even faster since there's already a wingman. 

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1 hour ago, kukumarq1 said:

As a long time Jong Kook, I do think that he is definitely attracted to her. But the fact that she's not necessarily the type he goes for, it's probably breaking his brain a little bit and he's just trying to process it all. 

 

What is jong kook's type exactly? 

I think there are some overwhelming traits that didn't make him think twice about Somin in first place: her craziness. 

 

Remember in 2018 RM fortune telling forecast, Park SungHoon advised him to go through process of change and embracing it. Then in 2020 forecast, he asked Jong Kook to become more conservative and his life has become more stable. It does feel like it is time for him to choose and get married or settled down.

 

The timeline fits Somin in it so well. After Korean fan meet, Jong Kook admitted the change he felt about Somin that he finds her charming. Then later on, they became closer than ever. In MUD, that would be during seollal new year holidays, he said he wanted to date someone he is comfortable with. That is like hearing that he wants to date his friend, co-worker, colleague, or anyone he is comfortable with. Now I think he is way of wooing her is to be closer to her, and hangout with her with friends as third party. Isn't his scheme with Somin and Sechan? It became quite a pattern in plain sight. =) 

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16 minutes ago, kukumarq1 said:

No. He's not that close-minded. As long as Sechan doesn't have real feelings for Somin, he probably won't mind dating her. 

 

If anything, it might make Jong Kook move even faster since there's already a wingman. 

 

Just wondering because Jong kook sometimes get strict rules because of his painful experience with breakups. The phone call in MUD feels so confusing. 

 

That reminds me that Sechan is early Kook-min shipper. There were several moments that he support them to together, and even want them together. Not really sake of official loveline or etc. Isn't Jong kook t-shirt is given to Somin by Sechan? It is like telling Jong kook, everyone, and the viewers that Sechan is kook-min supporter?! It feels like Sechan and Somin already draw the line between them. And look how Somin tried to hold her feelings when she blurt out that it felt like she is together alone with Jong Kook. She was quite giddy and happy to be connected to him. There are several times Sechan let Jong Kook and Somin add him to hang out together in such place that could be for dates and romantic gateway. Kook-min is little weird now... and Sechan is sincerely letting them be. =) 

 

Hope things will go well with Kook-min. 

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ChanMin have always maintained that they are close friends and just that. Maybe the constant teasing is making them awkward, but awkwardness is what we see on-screen. Somin still put up pics with him on her insta. Don't know if the teasing has made them awkward offscreen too.

 

Didn't Sechan make it VERY CLEAR in some new year/year end interview that he does not see her in a romantic way or something similar to that. He has always taken good care of Somin. I was watching their old episodes and it is so clear that he looks out for her. There was no teasing then. He is not doing anything different for them to tease ChanMin now. So, its all just for the show.

 

And after the LL, Sechan has so many videos and articles. People have started talking about him and he has good screentime. Sadly, he couldn't shine much among the other 7 before the LL. 

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It is just whole Jong Kook getting involved with Chan-min makes it really weird and no one question it. No one said anything when Somin suggested Sechan to hang out with her and Jong Kook together. It is treating kook min plain in sight while Chan Min is for the show. 

 

Kook-min strategy in MUD and RM is very similar. Everyone plays it by ignorance. In MUD, no matter how they put Somin in low key, there is always a twist. Jong Min matching ended up with twist. Sechan-HaHa phone call-- HaHa even included Jong kook with Somin about love. Jong Kook even volunteered to be chaperone in their romantic movie date. Look how they film Jong Kook's solo concert with Somin in it. Mothers weren't even hype up about any new or pretty girl in sight to talk about. It feels like Somin is off limits rather than ignoring her to extent. In RM, they did the same with fishbowl memory. 

 

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7 minutes ago, JialingGO said:

It is just whole Jong Kook getting involved with Chan-min makes it really weird and no one question it. No one said anything when Somin suggested Sechan to hang out with her and Jong Kook together. It is treating kook min plain in sight while Chan Min is for the show. 

MUD is even more scripted that Running Man. 

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I believe all these shows have atleast a base script on how to make it funny and entertaining.

 

But I'm rooting for Kookmin's fondness for each other which is sometimes shown openly on the show and sometimes not. Their acts are generally off the show. Even when on show, its the fans' eagle eyes that spot the interaction they have in the background. 

 

I think Kookmin can happen as long as Haha does not force it onscreen (which according to KJK is like a jinxing curse LOL). 

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For my opinion, Kookmin being treat as invisible is even better because they can interact naturally. It wont help JK and Somin at all if other members and staff acknowledge Kookmin to the show. The pressure from surrounding could jeopardize the possibility of a serious relationship between JK and Somin. Just look at Chanmin. YJS and Haha forced them too much and the family start to get another idea. Now they became awkward with each other. 

 

The next point, JK's feeling. The way JK behaves shows that he attracts to Somin. But did he already come clean with this idea? Would he accept his feeling and pursue the lady? He is 10 years older than her and even more they are colleagues in a variety show. It is a hard decision for him to make. So, being the central of everyone's attention won't do him any good.

 

So, for me, when no one said anything about kookmin is a blessing. 

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2 hours ago, kyoko22 said:

The next point, JK's feeling. The way JK behaves shows that he attracts to Somin. But did he already come clean with this idea? Would he accept his feeling and pursue the lady? He is 10 years older than her and even more they are colleagues in a variety show. It is a hard decision for him to make. So, being the central of everyone's attention won't do him any good.

Hi, 

 

IMHO, it may also hinges on Sechan and Somin.

 

If Sechan has feelings for Somin, KJK will hide his true feelings and 'sacrifice' himself. No right or wrong, but just his character. 

 

If Sechan has no feelings for Somin, KJK gets the greatest wingman he can ever have. This will improves the chances of kookmin becoming true.

 

For Somin, i think she has to be direct and active for kookmin to have a higher chance of coming true. Of course, opposites can happen but just stating my sense of probabilities. I am still grateful she brought much joy and laughter to him.

 

The problem is KJK hides too much emotional stuff under a gruff exterior. So it is very hard to get a good read. In shows, it has always been stated KJK does not like those emotional or touching stuff or atmosphere. This is actually some form of escapism whereby some people hides their raw emotions under a shell. I belong to the group that feels that contrary to belief, KJK doesn't have high self-esteem; in fact he has tons of doubt in his own self. This may be due to his own bad experiences when young.

 

Thanks.

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