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i totally second @AB_fan

 

jsj is blunt, but he does love jsm. in the beginning of last year, around the time kookmin started becoming more obvious on the show like with the train museum episode, i feel jsj was a bit disapproving of jsm . he would throw mean comments at her and kjk would retaliate in some way. but after that, he has come around. even during the fanmeet dance when jsm was hesitating to dance with kjk, he was the one who said only jong kook can lift her. since then, they have become really close and i feel he likes them together. of all the members, when kjk talks about jsm, he usually addresses jsj first. in a previous episode when kjk talked about jsm snowgazing and getting hit, it was jsj who reacted the most. in the cannes episode too, when kjk puts his arm over jsm, jsj removes his arm from her shoulder like that is kjk's right. so i don't think he is making those statements because he doesn't like her. jsj also chose jsm as his favourite dongsaeng very recently.

 

i think jsj being older is worried about where things will go if the loveline continues. in the episode where ysc finally chooses jsm's doll, jsm at first reacts as if she is upset. she goes back to her seat and then later chooses or is forced to choose ysc. when ysc and jsm then leave to stand away from the selection place, jsj asks, as if in surprise,  'are they partners?' everyone  teases him saying he is in his typical 'forgetful' mode because hasn't jsm accepted ysc?. but i felt he was wondering how they got partnered up when jsm's unwillingness should have been registered by the pds and other members. i think he also takes note when kjk looks uncomfortable once chanmin move away. right after ysc and jsm team up, you can see kjk is lost in his world and yjs is the first one to notice it. yjs draws kjk out by making a comment to haha about how people on shows can end up dating, kjk reacts a bit late and doesn't look that happy since he thinks yjs is referring to how chanmin could end up dating. jsj who is standing next to kjk too doesn't have a pleased expression on his face. then it dawns on kjk that yjs is indirectly mentioning xman and kjk snaps out of it with a smile. jsj then suddenly starts talking about yjs's role in his marriage. he says yjs is good at matchmaking and even when he and his wife broke up, it was yjs who helped them get back together. that seemed like a weird conversation to make and yjs who should be ribbing jsj about his dating days just smiles along. so perhaps jsj was worried if the loveline could mess up things and was kind of reassuring kjk that even if that happens, yjs has enough skills to put things back on track. 

 

there is another instance. in episode 384, jsm and ysc sit side by side in the bus. this was after two interesting episodes where jsm sitting near ysc had led to some discussion. the first one was where kjk told jsm he felt hurt she was sitting away from him and near ysc. in the episode after that, kjk who gets to sit near jsm, asks ysc why he left the seat beside jsm empty and that if he wants to, he can occupy his seat beside jsm. it is supposed to be a joke but kjk looks a bit scary there. the kannes episode is shot right after that and in the bus, jsj finds ysc and jsm sitting together. he immediately draws attention to them and asks them why they are sitting together. this was the early days of teasing so jsm looked quite okay with it and both ysc and jsm reply, it just happened like that. jsj still persists saying the female guest was sitting near ysc and jsm pushed her away to sit beside ysc. it is all supposed to be loveline stuff, but the way he says it is like he disapproves of the seating arrangement. kjk then intervenes saying jsm's hat and ysc's jacket match, a random comment supposed to lighten the mood. the other members then make the whole seating arrangement into a joke and it ends with yjs and haha saying ysc might be interested in the female guest instead. so i think he has been tired of the loveline stuff for some time now.

 

if you remember, in one of the early episodes where they tease chanmin and yjs says jsm's mom likes ysc, it is jsj who brings up kjk out of nowhere by asking jsm what her mom thinks about kjk. similarly, in the episode where sunny guests and chanmin are partners, jsm imitates sunny and tells ysc that he is her ideal type. there also, jsj raises objections and when the members tease him why he is getting so worked up, he says he doesn't want ysc to get hurt.

 

jsj is from an older generation and may believe people should straight up confess instead of playing all these love games. from whatever i have heard of his marriage, seems like he and his wife had their share of troubles in the early days of their marriage. so he may be wary of situations that can lead to possible misunderstanding/friction between a couple. that may not be how it works for other people - the members may all know how to differentiate between what they show in front of the camera and what happens outside. however, that may be the way he thinks. 

 

all the same, i think the pds and members should think about his words. don't push the loveline if it is not gonna pay dividends in the future and only invite more backlash. his words may be bitter and blunt, but he may be trying to protect jsm and kookmin relationship in his own way. 

 

from his radio interview, i got the feeling that jsj appreciates jsm for how easygoing she is. he said she has a smile on her face no matter what is going on. he is someone who gets bullied a lot on the show, even though he is the eldest. members make all sorts of comments on his age - he is called prehistoric, his married life is made fun of. he even lets jsm tease him about his age.  jsm is also similar in that people throw all kinds of things at her thinking she can take them. park hanna got screen time by making a poem about jsm's armpits and though everyone felt embarrassed for her, she made it into a joke saying 'i didn't know i was that popular'. so he does know what she goes through. however, this may be his way of telling her she doesn't have to do everything yjs or haha tells her, that sometimes it is fine to speak up. 

 

i think the pds have to find a new role for ysc like they did with sjh. spartace loveline was also created to find a role for sjh. it flizzled out and her screentime has been uneven, but she is starting to find her feet without it on the show. the same will happen with ysc. ysc is witty, now that he is popular because of the loveline, more female guests will start choosing him. kjk and ysc have a lovely equation and he is doing quite well with the others too. the loveline will have to end. it will tie both jsm and ysc up and that will ruin things in the long run. if kookmin have feelings for each other and have to hide them because of the loveline, it will complicate personal lives as well. 

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Once again  . . . sub spoilers.   I won't be able to do this every weekend, but I just had to share (so enjoy the Kookmin moments).  Besides,  these sub spoilers are never as good as watching the epis

That awkward moment when you got caught staring at your "crush" and now you have to pretend like you're looking at someone else.   

11 minutes ago, HappyVirusRM said:

The truth is that YJS was the first to insinuate something about MC though! Yet, we don’t really see them attacking him... hmm, there’s obviously another reason why they’re mad... and you can see why they’re turning on him in his comments of his most recent insta post... 

 

I went into the Somin antis cave and yes unfortunately they’re eating JSJ comments up but that doesn’t change Somin’s and JSJ’s bond sooo they’re wasting their time coming up with their theories. I also laughed so hard at their reasoning over KJK reading and loving on Somin’s book... I give y’all three seconds to guess! 1...2...3 yep! You guessed it, apparently the PD ordered and made it an obligation for KJK to do that including reading the book on camera.. I mean the antis are a riot honestly, they’re hilarious how do they come up with this stuff :w00t:

 

the whole book thing was odd. how come no one else had a copy, even the pds? it doesn't look like jsm had distributed her copies to all the other members that day.  everyone looks at the book curiously as if they are seeing it for the first time. if it had been with the pds, they would have handed it over to yjs who would have then read out from that. this was really odd. kjk hid it behind his back the entire time as if he wanted to spring a surprise on jsm with the book. or did he not want others to dissuade him from discussing the book?  so i really wonder where he got it from.

 

kjk says he doesn't get the book which is why he cannot keep it down. however, even after that, he keeps on reading it between breaks as if he wants to understand it. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, wanderlustanna said:

 

yup, they said he's being rude and what he said was really uncalled for. 

Yep! They're accusing him of being sexist. The fandom has never been kind to Jong Kook, and now Somin is unfortunately facing the same thing.

 

By the way, his mother isn't actually begging anyone to take him lol. If anything, they might as well say that all the mothers on that show are begging all the guests to date their sons and daughters. 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

 

the whole book thing was odd. how come no one else had a copy, even the pds? it doesn't look like jsm had distributed her copies to all the other members that day.  everyone looks at the book curiously as if they are seeing it for the first time. if it had been with the pds, they would have handed it over to yjs who would have then read out from that. this was really odd. kjk hid it behind his back the entire time as if he wanted to spring a surprise on jsm with the book. or did he not want others to dissuade him from discussing the book?  so i really wonder where he got it from.

 

kjk says he doesn't get the book which is why he cannot keep it down. however, even after that, he keeps on reading it between breaks as if he wants to understand it. 

 

 

 

Another theory by the antis was that Somin gave the PD the book and the PD chose KJK to be the PR person, and that the whole joke about Somin needing to publish a key for people understand her book is just a setup for another Somin book. LOL 

 

Like you said, wouldn’t the logical person in charge of PR be YJS? Why KJK? And even then, why would YJS actively nudge KJK if the plan was to give Somin PR time? In another episode they already briefly talked about her book, why are they doing it again? How much PR can KJK give the book by just sitting quietly and reading it? There’s just so many questions and I’m gonna answer them for the antis! Here it goes:

 

KJK is proud of Somin’s book, he called her his favorite author (funny how they’re not talking about that line LOL) and I bet he enjoyed every second of his free PR time for Somin:D

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8 minutes ago, kukumarq1 said:

Yep! They're accusing him of being sexist. The fandom has never been kind to Jong Kook, and now Somin is unfortunately facing the same thing.

Yup the haters are on their golden horses already waving their swords. *sighs*. I knew this loveline was just going to rekindle the anti somin hate party that muted down and it successfully did. People blaming her for playing with ysc's heart in a FAKE AND SCRIPTED loveline. Make it make sense. Apparently she's the reason why the loveline is out of control and has no right to look fed up with it. Fools, every last one of them . 

 

I feel they are just looking for anyway to hate on kjk at this point.  One person called him a cradle robber if he's interested in jsm. Like how?? I say once again; Fools, every last one of them.

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@kukumarq1 Where did they get the sexist part!? I’m so confused and embarrassed by their reasoning. The k-nets to my understanding took it as a joke and moved on, why can’t the internationals do the same? Why insult and try to degrade KJK’s career and legacy with insinuations of sexism and rudeness??  
Jihyo was playing the loveline, YJS said something, KJK made a witty remark about TROS, and that was it... Jihyo even answered, she isn’t the meek baby woman they want her to be, Jihyo would 100% responded with strength and snark if she was truly offended, she’s a strong woman that has YEARS in the industry, she knows how to handle herself. Sometimes I feel these people aren’t really her fans, which sucks considering Jihyo is amazing and deserves the best. 

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Somin has a talent in literature & she can converts her thoughts/feelings into something beautiful like poems. Every sentences in her poems have hidden meanings. Anyone who love to read literature books can relate to that. The best comment from kjk to somin: "you're my favourite writer":wub:. So, it proves our theory before that he really loves what Somin wrote either diary or poems. He teased her poems before in ig because he loves it.

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1 hour ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

i totally second @AB_fan

 

jsj is blunt, but he does love jsm. in the beginning of last year, around the time kookmin started becoming more obvious on the show like with the train museum episode, i feel jsj was a bit disapproving of jsm . he would throw mean comments at her and kjk would retaliate in some way. but after that, he has come around. even during the fanmeet dance when jsm was hesitating to dance with kjk, he was the one who said only jong kook can lift her. since then, they have become really close and i feel he likes them together. of all the members, when kjk talks about jsm, he usually addresses jsj first. in a previous episode when kjk talked about jsm snowgazing and getting hit, it was jsj who reacted the most. in the cannes episode too, when kjk puts his arm over jsm, jsj removes his arm from her shoulder like that is kjk's right. so i don't think he is making those statements because he doesn't like her. jsj also chose jsm as his favourite dongsaeng very recently.

 

i think jsj being older is worried about where things will go if the loveline continues. in the episode where ysc finally chooses jsm's doll, jsm at first reacts as if she is upset. she goes back to her seat and then later chooses or is forced to choose ysc. when ysc and jsm then leave to stand away from the selection place, jsj asks, as if in surprise,  'are they partners?' everyone  teases him saying he is in his typical 'forgetful' mode because hasn't jsm accepted ysc?. but i felt he was wondering how they got partnered up when jsm's unwillingness should have been registered by the pds and other members. i think he also takes note when kjk looks uncomfortable once chanmin move away. right after ysc and jsm team up, you can see kjk is lost in his world and yjs is the first one to notice it. yjs draws kjk out by making a comment to haha about how people on shows can end up dating, kjk reacts a bit late and doesn't look that happy since he thinks yjs is referring to how chanmin could end up dating. jsj who is standing next to kjk too doesn't have a pleased expression on his face. then it dawns on kjk that yjs is indirectly mentioning xman and kjk snaps out of it with a smile. jsj then suddenly starts talking about yjs's role in his marriage. he says yjs is good at matchmaking and even when he and his wife broke up, it was yjs who helped them get back together. that seemed like a weird conversation to make and yjs who should be ribbing jsj about his dating days just smiles along. so perhaps jsj was worried if the loveline could mess up things and was kind of reassuring kjk that even if that happens, yjs has enough skills to put things back on track. 

 

there is another instance. in episode 384, jsm and ysc sit side by side in the bus. this was after two interesting episodes where jsm sitting near ysc had led to some discussion. the first one was where kjk told jsm he felt hurt she was sitting away from him and near ysc. in the episode after that, kjk who gets to sit near jsm, asks ysc why he left the seat beside jsm empty and that if he wants to, he can occupy his seat beside jsm. it is supposed to be a joke but kjk looks a bit scary there. the kannes episode is shot right after that and in the bus, jsj finds ysc and jsm sitting together. he immediately draws attention to them and asks them why they are sitting together. this was the early days of teasing so jsm looked quite okay with it and both ysc and jsm reply, it just happened like that. jsj still persists saying the female guest was sitting near ysc and jsm pushed her away to sit beside ysc. it is all supposed to be loveline stuff, but the way he says it is like he disapproves of the seating arrangement. kjk then intervenes saying jsm's hat and ysc's jacket match, a random comment supposed to lighten the mood. the other members then make the whole seating arrangement into a joke and it ends with yjs and haha saying ysc might be interested in the female guest instead. so i think he has been tired of the loveline stuff for some time now.

 

if you remember, in one of the early episodes where they tease chanmin and yjs says jsm's mom likes ysc, it is jsj who brings up kjk out of nowhere by asking jsm what her mom thinks about kjk. similarly, in the episode where sunny guests and chanmin are partners, jsm imitates sunny and tells ysc that he is her ideal type. there also, jsj raises objections and when the members tease him why he is getting so worked up, he says he doesn't want ysc to get hurt.

 

jsj is from an older generation and may believe people should straight up confess instead of playing all these love games. from whatever i have heard of his marriage, seems like he and his wife had their share of troubles in the early days of their marriage. so he may be wary of situations that can lead to possible misunderstanding/friction between a couple. that may not be how it works for other people - the members may all know how to differentiate between what they show in front of the camera and what happens outside. however, that may be the way he thinks. 

 

all the same, i think the pds and members should think about his words. don't push the loveline if it is not gonna pay dividends in the future and only invite more backlash. his words may be bitter and blunt, but he may be trying to protect jsm and kookmin relationship in his own way. 

 

from his radio interview, i got the feeling that jsj appreciates jsm for how easygoing she is. he said she has a smile on her face no matter what is going on. he is someone who gets bullied a lot on the show, even though he is the eldest. members make all sorts of comments on his age - he is called prehistoric, his married life is made fun of. he even lets jsm tease him about his age.  jsm is also similar in that people throw all kinds of things at her thinking she can take them. park hanna got screen time by making a poem about jsm's armpits and though everyone felt embarrassed for her, she made it into a joke saying 'i didn't know i was that popular'. so he does know what she goes through. however, this may be his way of telling her she doesn't have to do everything yjs or haha tells her, that sometimes it is fine to speak up. 

 

i think the pds have to find a new role for ysc like they did with sjh. spartace loveline was also created to find a role for sjh. it flizzled out and her screentime has been uneven, but she is starting to find her feet without it on the show. the same will happen with ysc. ysc is witty, now that he is popular because of the loveline, more female guests will start choosing him. kjk and ysc have a lovely equation and he is doing quite well with the others too. the loveline will have to end. it will tie both jsm and ysc up and that will ruin things in the long run. if kookmin have feelings for each other and have to hide them because of the loveline, it will complicate personal lives as well. 


 

Sukjin so far I know adores somin. He has admiration and some fatherly instincts and care about her. Sometime his choice of words of words or joke can rub people off for those who are very new to his persona. Some of us are not long time watcher of RM. some just tune in random time will take such judgements. Koreans audience are quite aware of this personality that it is not something to take it too seriously. Jong kook often tells jokes that may be serious or not. He confused some people in some ways that calls for explanation. 

 

sukjin’s jokes and persona towards somin in some time when it gets overboard, it awakens jong kook. It is nice to have jong kook around for sukjin to maintain is signature persona he is well known for. However, dealing with somin is very sensitive issue because of international haters. That is why I felt he goes overboard sometimes but it is very much needed for variety. With jong kook and jaesuk’s backing, it creates balance that will defend somin. 
 

However, the person who controls the scenes and the show is jaesuk and the pds and the staff to discuss how to present to the viewers both kneitzens and viewers alike. They tend to edit to create drama. But so far I know sukjin has been biggest supporter and respect to somin and her ability. He was brave and trust in somin to be able to perform with her wittiness when he mention the shape of her face. However, sukjin is like most of us getting annoyed with somin trying to fix and help sechan. Somin is not like jihyo, who gets real or snap anyone out of it. Somin is a very kind person who put others first before herself. I think sukjin tends to forget that somin has to take care of sechan. I think sechan, haha, and jaesuk are at fault for pushing too much to sukjin’s annoyance. I think sukjin is advice to have his signature persona to be free flow to help not to edit out some of the scenes that may be too much for us to see. We don’t know how it works, but it has some reasoning for showing. 
 

after reading @AB_fan I agree with the analysis but sometimes it takes to watch previous episode about understanding sukjin’s role, and somin’s character and nature. Somin is becoming more of a fool dealing with chanmin. She probably had hard time to say no or thought she can help sechan. Sometimes she needs to let him find his own way. She cares too much for him. Somin is kind of person who will go lengths to help one person despite her own feelings. She lost trust in herself to make a choice and thought others know better for her. Her experience with break ups gave her heart ache and lower her self esteem. She worries a lot because she is too tender hearted. Sechan in way knows somin well that he also tend to help her to keep her pride that he tends to get along with it with hesitation and encouragement from other members. 
 

Sukjin not only wanted or sort of trying to get somin to be braver to state her feelings, he actually brought or awoken jong kook into equation. 
 

i don’t really care too much about sukjin after @ab_fan and @kookminclan RunningMan analysis opposing my analysis, i come to think of something that comes in between,  but they have better understanding of how it all works. I often do see members bullied and tease sukjin including somin making such silly stories about him. It brings them so much closer. It proved that somin can adjust to different kind of humour. It creates balance. But to come to think of dealing with somin’s haters in the past, there is sensitivity among her fans of how members can put things out of context in a wrong way in terms of cultural difference and how variety works which is very different from real life. Somin has put up with it a lot. However, the members proved to be the most valuable friend and colleague to somin. For jong kook, I think he is stepping out little more about himself than before. He talks of issues more often than before. And his affection for somin has grown so much for respecting her how she handles the situation so well with rapport and love. She didn’t get upset over disappointing things but rather worked hard. 

 

What if Sukjin didnt talk like that,  we wont be able to see kookmin moments or it would be edited out. It goes same for Chan-min. So they have always have much needed comedy and outrageous things to say to create content. If I were to choose, Sukjin's comments are way better than forcing loveline on Chan-min. 

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Just come to stop by. I am watching the latest episode with sub and i feel like writing here after this part:

Haha is teasing Sechan because he looks worried since Somin won’t come bringing a whistle. But then Jongkook murmurs by himself like “forced. Ishh.. He (Haha) forced it (the loveline)” while smiling. What happen with my dugeun dugeun heart? ❤️❤️❤️❤️

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The fact that jongkook had the book with him all through the episode and was genuinely interested in it, was reading it and even using the bookmark lol. He's the sweetest really. I'm sure he made somin happy just seeing him do that. But seriously tho why was he hiding the book during the opening lol. It says a lot that somin just looks on at him with familiar adoration when he starts talking about the book like I've heard this all already. And it's just registering in my head but how dare they call him sexist!! Honestly the haters just be saying anything at this point, and it's just sad.

 

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14 minutes ago, HappyVirusRM said:

@kukumarq1 Where did they get the sexist part!? I’m so confused and embarrassed by their reasoning. The k-nets to my understanding took it as a joke and moved on, why can’t the internationals do the same? Why insult and try to degrade KJK’s career and legacy with insinuations of sexism and rudeness??  
Jihyo was playing the loveline, YJS said something, KJK made a witty remark about TROS, and that was it... Jihyo even answered, she isn’t the meek baby woman they want her to be, Jihyo would 100% responded with strength and snark if she was truly offended, she’s a strong woman that has YEARS in the industry, she knows how to handle herself. Sometimes I feel these people aren’t really her fans, which sucks considering Jihyo is amazing and deserves the best. 

 

on the one hand, fans allege pds and the members don't care for sjh and when members try to make interesting moments for her, they do not want that. last episode, i saw the comments of some sjh fans who blamed the members for interrupting sjh and not letting her explain she hadn't stolen the bicycle. :sweatingbullets:  

 

it is like sjh can't be teased by the members because she has such a sensitive heart that she takes all their comments literally. she wouldn't have survived in the industry if she didn't know how to differentiate between variety and reality. jsm goes through really embarrassing stuff - whether it be the armpits incident or not being recognised by people on the street. however, she takes all of it with a smile. she doesn't let us see her worries. that is the right attitude for an entertainer. sjh actually took the teasing quite calmly and i always feel references to monday couple bring back the old jh. even last episode, when haha was telling her she has not been the same since gary left, the tone of her voice when she asks 'who is gary' was old jh. it was so funny. sadly, some fans can't see that.

 

these fans fail to acknowledge that the other members have been trying to make up for jh not being herself on the show for years now. when jh looks lost in an episode, her fans say she has still not got out of the trauma of being fired. if so, they should thank the other members for working extra hard to make up for that. all of them do that because they think of her as family. even jsj, when he scolds sjh on the show, is trying to provoke her to act her role. 

 

if some of her fans, instead of being so sensitive, had encouraged sjh to let herself go, she would have had an easier time coming out of her shell. 

 

 

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anyone care to explain why they call Jong Kook sexist? I didnt get to watch the whole episode for now. For haters' predictable habit to call anyone who support somin like that, I wouldnt be surprised.

 

Jong Kook tends to say something controversial to state his own beliefs, and sometimes not afraid to express it. He has his own preferences such as in the past he describes the look of a person he interested in. People asked his own preference, and they sometimes put it in a wrong way. 

 

I also notice that Somin is one of the few who knows how to handle his way of expressing things that could rub the person in a wrong way. Remember the first meeting, Jong kook and Jaesuk were teasing Somin. Jong Kook innocently said her forehead is wide. He may not say that it is ugly. It is wide, but to somin, it feels like he said it is ugly or out of norm. She answered back so wittingly. A girl like that could scare anyone, but not Jong Kook. She really does help him to put his ego in check in some ways in a hilarious way. It goes same for predicting who is handsomest. Somin goes outside of the box or opposite direction instead of winning the game-- she brings variety comedy to put Jong Kook's ego in check again. That makes PD, staffs, and writer love her so much. She understood variety. The red flower, he was so fixed with mission and all, but Somin has variety mindset like Kwangsoo, always think outside of the box to bring laughs. I can tell a bit that it started to changed Jong Kook's way of thinking and learn to adapt to variety comedy and entertainment. He set the balance. He is becoming more entertaining this time being so talkative. Somin in turn became more competitive. It is like their halves have switched over but still keep the other half. They became more balanced. It takes few people to put up with his mannerism and antics. But you can tell how well respected Jong Kook is despite his frugality and gym addiction with number of people taking too much care for him. His Dragon brothers love and adore him to the core. They made fun him silly. He really does need someone who understands him,  but also keep his ego or fixed mind in check to explore life to the fullest. Didnt most of the female guests choose Jong kook as ideal guy? 

 

I will have to check with the part why they call him sexist. He is probably one of the most open minded person among members, but his preference is his own choice. 

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I was trying to fall asleep so I decided to watch a lil bit of YouTube, in my recommended this Video popped up, I clicked on it ‘cause it had Sechanie on it, and guess who made an appearance?? The red dog that Somin took on the episode filmed on Jan 13, if this was filmed after that, it trampled on the Chanmin shippers theory that Sechan loved that she kept it. 
 

Also, a few Chanmin shippers are mad at Somin because of today’s episode, so let’s add them to the list of people that this loveline has pissed off and let’s end it, shall we, SBS? 

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21 minutes ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

 

on the one hand, fans allege pds and the members don't care for sjh and when members try to make interesting moments for her, they do not want that. last episode, i saw the comments of some sjh fans who blamed the members for interrupting sjh and not letting her explain she hadn't stolen the bicycle. :sweatingbullets:  

 

it is like sjh can't be teased by the members because she has such a sensitive heart that she takes all their comments literally. she wouldn't have survived in the industry if she didn't know how to differentiate between variety and reality. jsm goes through really embarrassing stuff - whether it be the armpits incident or not being recognised by people on the street. however, she takes all of it with a smile. she doesn't let us see her worries. that is the right attitude for an entertainer. sjh actually took the teasing quite calmly and i always feel references to monday couple bring back the old jh. even last episode, when haha was telling her she has not been the same since gary left, the tone of her voice when she asks 'who is gary' was old jh. it was so funny. sadly, some fans can't see that.

 

these fans fail to acknowledge that the other members have been trying to make up for jh not being herself on the show for years now. when jh looks lost in an episode, her fans say she has still not got out of the trauma of being fired. if so, they should thank the other members for working extra hard to make up for that. all of them do that because they think of her as family. even jsj, when he scolds sjh on the show, is trying to provoke her to act her role. 

 

if some of her fans, instead of being so sensitive, had encouraged sjh to let herself go, she would have had an easier time coming out of her shell. 

 

 

 

The stolen bicycle incident is so funny. It prevents from edited out if she doesnt have a crazy story to tell. The members did talking for her to create comedy. It was chaotic, funny, and bit embarrassing. Jihyo is not really created for comedy. Everyone is coming up with strange stories which does not mean it really happens. They just teased her to the core even though it is not true. It is quite similar of how members tried to force chan-min into the loveline speaking for them. Even Jihyo asked Somin to open her heart. So it is just drive Jihyo crazy to unleash her inner gangster to smack everyone as much she can to bring comedy. Her speechlessness is cute. The members were so funny and crazy. They are all trying to keep and help each other from being edited out. 

 

Some of Jihyo's fans like it. They thought and praised everyone to help Jihyo to bring comedic fun to her story. She looked lost, speechless, and exasperated. Everyone is crazy, and she laughs at their ridiculous imagination. Did you see how far Kwangsoo framed her for drinking and smoking. How he framed Jong Kook for going nail saloon. All these stuff is really Korean style of humour. 

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1 hour ago, Happyjana said:

Somin has a talent in literature & she can converts her thoughts/feelings into something beautiful like poems. Every sentences in her poems have hidden meanings. Anyone who love to read literature books can relate to that. The best comment from kjk to somin: "you're my favourite writer":wub:. So, it proves our theory before that he really loves what Somin wrote either diary or poems. He teased her poems before in ig because he loves it.

 

Somin's poem is not straightforward style but helps you to understand the matter of how nature or object works into everyday life. Jong kook had to follow the pattern and somin's way of thinking, he would understand her poem better.

 

Her poems are really good, even for English readers who have to translate word by word. Each word translated really tells a story. Everyday objects and nature are universal things to bridge over the language barriers. 

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@Rida Live kjk reading jsm's book during the break is the cutest thing ever. even with his poor literary sense as jsm put it, he was trying to make sense of it. the poem he quoted was even hard for me to understand though i read poetry. i think he will get some of her other poems.

 

i love these two where the title itself becomes part of the poem:

 

 

last year, she was a crazy poet for kjk. now she is his favorite writer. he liked her song lyrics as well though he said her lyrics style was different to his. 

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1 hour ago, HappyVirusRM said:

@kukumarq1 Where did they get the sexist part!? I’m so confused and embarrassed by their reasoning. The k-nets to my understanding took it as a joke and moved on, why can’t the internationals do the same? Why insult and try to degrade KJK’s career and legacy with insinuations of sexism and rudeness??  
Jihyo was playing the loveline, YJS said something, KJK made a witty remark about TROS, and that was it... Jihyo even answered, she isn’t the meek baby woman they want her to be, Jihyo would 100% responded with strength and snark if she was truly offended, she’s a strong woman that has YEARS in the industry, she knows how to handle herself. Sometimes I feel these people aren’t really her fans, which sucks considering Jihyo is amazing and deserves the best. 

Hi, 

 

I think is because the spartace fandom has a huge portion of SJH fans, so they can easily turn on KJK. Moreover, even within RM fandom, there are people who dislike him because of his 'villian' role. This was also expressed in his heart-to-heart-talk with YJS in 1 episode: KJK also have worries about the wrath of fans because of his villian & bully role. YJS actually expressed understanding on this sacrifice - it is not easy to take on this role but someone had to do it. 

 

I like to give credit to my favorite 3 'oldies' :D because I really like them for their devotion and wisdom as variety veterans. For example, they have taken on the 'less friendly' roles of being the grumpy/savage/sarcastic ones (yes, even YJS sometimes fire blunt shots at guests/own members). They are not afraid to portray the roles which earns them less popularity. Another example is the increase of meta jokes in the show - where you find variety shows which openly 'speaks' about screentime/change of emcees etc.

 

Prefer to see it as they are trying to change the theme of the show (they spoke openly about changing + it has been expressed that current trends with Korean viewers is they prefer to see shows which shows a more realistic/honest side of things). So perhaps they are trying to change RM to showcase more realistic views/comments (sort of like Deadpool breaking the 4th wall)  + they are trying to direct more screentime/limelight or impart knowledge to the younger ones. Let's face it - they know that they are not able to keep doing variety shows forever, sooner or later, they have to pass the batons to the young ones.

 

The anti-fans probably got to me since I expected more from them - KJK had been there for you-know-who while it was a difficult period for her (both start of RM + firing controversy) so the least is not to speak ill of him.

 

Anyway, it is not healthy to focus on negativity, so do try to focus on the positive things. For one, I really really suspect major revamps/changes are on the way for RM (if they are continuing with the show).  So to finish with another wise quote from YJS to Gary: "You know we all used to play in the playground when we were young. but as we get older we can’t play in the same place forever. we won’t have much fun playing with the same rides over and over again.to find different sides of us we shouldn’t do the same things. that’s what we must do for running man. the staff members are looking for new environments for us to play in. "

 

Thanks.

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1 hour ago, HappyVirusRM said:

Another theory by the antis was that Somin gave the PD the book and the PD chose KJK to be the PR person, and that the whole joke about Somin needing to publish a key for people understand her book is just a setup for another Somin book. LOL 

 

Like you said, wouldn’t the logical person in charge of PR be YJS? Why KJK? And even then, why would YJS actively nudge KJK if the plan was to give Somin PR time? In another episode they already briefly talked about her book, why are they doing it again? How much PR can KJK give the book by just sitting quietly and reading it? There’s just so many questions and I’m gonna answer them for the antis! Here it goes:

 

KJK is proud of Somin’s book, he called her his favorite author (funny how they’re not talking about that line LOL) and I bet he enjoyed every second of his free PR time for Somin:D

 

Gosh haters... 

 

why in the world they had to come up with it when they dont even know how variety works. they have no respect for people who work so hard to put pieces by pieces together no matter how members can torture them for breaking the rules, destroy the rules, not making any jokes, getting bored, distracted or etc. They have to spend hours putting pieces together to squeeze into 30-45 minutes show (commercial breaks in between). Members finish shooting and head home or another work, the PD, staff, editors, and writers  have to gather after filming to spend most of time to put the pieces together, then brainstorm the next. The haters even created the rumor of PD and Somin's affair. How many times they have mixed up with senior and junior PDs. Even put wrong picture. 

 

You are so right why he hid the book behind him, and look at Jaesuk tapping Jong Kook's arm to let him lead the show to promote the book. Jong Kook was little antsy and wants to be part of it. He doesnt even look at Jaesuk. I dont think the staff and Jaesuk could predict Jong Kook to act like that. Maybe Jong Kook was thought to pass it to Jaesuk to read it or etc. Jong kook was too immersed in it and wanted Somin to look at him to explain what is it all about. He shared his own commentary, and happiness. He is sharing reviews to tell readers to read it too. He is like walking PPL for Somin's book. The way he looks at it and read through out most of the filming. Sukjin even tried to pull the book to read it, but Jong Kook was holding too hard. It is like tug of war. With Jaesuk, it is fight over promoting Somin's book. And the PD and Jaesuk decided to show it. Just imagine Jong Kook's family and friends, even Dragon brothers observing this scene. Jong Kook's gaze at Somin so intensely  is so heart fluttering. Is he trying to get his family and friends push him from outside. I just felt that he wanted to be with her at the moment. It is very interesting scene. 

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Sorry that I have to rant a little bit about my frustration.

 

This episode really twisted my head. It's so confusing to me what is RM's intentions to edit like that. The game was long and not really interesting in my opinion, maybe it's because they had to come up with ideas last minute since the plan to film in Europe was cancelled (such a pity though it seemed like an exciting trip, but it's understandable). So the members tried to make fun through acts and conversations, and most of the time the convos focused around Chanmin loveline which were so weird and uncomfortable for me. Like come on don't they have other interesting topics to discuss and for the guests to participate as well ? When they talked about Chanmin Kang Hanna and Heo Kyeong Hwan did not even say a word, RM members (mostly Haha-Jaesuk-Sukjin-Jongkook) talked with themselves. Haha reacts too much and Jongkook had to say that it was too forced, Sukjin's brutal advice and Jaesuk had to stop him .. I mean ever since Chanmin loveline was brought up, RM dynamic became so weird and awkward for me to watch somehow. I miss the old RM days before the LL.

 

But the biggest question for me is Jongkook and Somin's book. I mean what's the deal of it? I have tons of questions. Why was Jongkook the one to promote it? Why did he keep it throughout the opening part, the guest introduction part, and the game part (even when they ran to the 2nd floor he still kept the book and ran with it, shouldn't he return the book to the staff at that time since he finished promoting it)? During the game part why did he put it in front of him so that he can reach easily to read? Why did he smile while reading it when Somin's talking ? Why did he have to go to such extent ? Also, why did the PD let him do that and why did they choose to show it to us ? I mean WHY WHY WHY? Sometimes I can't help but feeling that RM and all are just messing with our heads and playing with our feelings to keep the show's rating and popularity. They put Chanmin in the front to ease large base of antis/spartace fans, but they also put low-key Kookmin moments to attract shippers like us which are growing in number. What's real, what's fake, what's scripted .. can time tell :sweatingbullets:?

 

(well during time of doubts like this, I will watch Kookmin performance of confession song and calm down, that is my tranquilizer :lol:)

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