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I thought since all members were together, there won’t be any interactions at all. I am so pleased to see those subtle moments, one thing I also noticed was during the ballon game Jong Kook who was so quiet joined in on coaching Somin how to throw the ballon. I just can’t help but getting my hopes higher after this episode. Lately, I have been thinking that maybe it is just a running man sibling relationship, so I should not get my hopes up, but who can resist this ship when you can clearly see their sweet relationship. Actually my heart almost dropped twice on today’s episode, first when JK tapped on the chair for Somin to sit and second when they sat together on the bench having what looked like quite serious talk, I mean their backs looked so sweat. Regardless, after today I am getting my hopes a little higher.

 

And as for marriage being discussed here, I think even if they do decide to go public and go ahead with other plans, I think it will be the best variety couple in Korea and I think running man would likely want to explore that new dynamic as well.

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6 hours ago, minahnoona said:

An edit from ep450 just for fun, and referencing/playing on Jongkook's "Ha....." teasing Somin on Instagram. 

 

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The words above are my actual translation. He said "ah uri aga. Aga" which wasn't translated in full in the subs. 

 

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Haha looking like a 3rd wheel hehe. 

To me this totally gives it a different meaning.  Ahhh the danger of translations.  :sweatingbullets:

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4 hours ago, MandelBrot said:

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This is so cute, thanks! :love:

The way he patted the chair in welcome, he just can't help himself!

 

I need to learn how to make bigger gifs! I'm using Instagiffer and I very easily hit the 2MB limit for uploading to imgur from my gif edits :bawling:

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28 minutes ago, Benji D said:

To me this totally gives it a different meaning.  Ahhh the danger of translations.  :sweatingbullets:

 

I feel like the subs didn't capture the nuance of Jongkook calling Somin baby. It wasn't just "baby" like in the subs, but he said "Our baby". 

 

This goes back to my earlier post about how subs don't translate literally and sometimes miss the nuance of the dialogue or situation. 

 

Based on what he actually said, "Our baby", "not babe but baby", there definitely to me was an undercurrent of flirtation that was not captured in the subs. 

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20 hours ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

 

gracias por las cartas. Lo traduje y lo leí. de acuerdo con su evaluación de kookmin. Kjk se ve cómodo con jsm e inicia las interacciones. incluso cuando él se burla románticamente con ella como en la madre de jsm quiere que seas su yerno, él lo disfruta. incluso cuando le dicen que la madre de jsm cree que la brecha de edad puede ser un problema, no dice "sí". en su lugar, dice que está feliz de haber dejado una impresión en la madre de jsm 'por ahora'. 

 

Si kjk quiere, puede mantenerse alejado de jsm para no alentar esos comentarios burlones. Yjs ya le preguntó una vez si Jsm es su novia cuando él participó en la piedra, papel, tijeras para ella. dejó un comentario en la publicación de jsm que hizo que hwan jin pd se burlara de ellos juntos. pero kjk, a diferencia de cómo suele ser, no se molesta con las burlas :))

Exactly 

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Thoughts on Kookmin in Ep452

  • Insta posts: They each posted a picture from this filming. Somin posing cutely with flowers in her opening outfit, making it the second week in a row where she posted a picture taken on filming day. Is it spring in RM or love? :wub: Jongkook posted that group photo of him, Somin, Sechan and Kwangsoo. Based on how they looked, it had to be taken before the water balloon game. And they were in a big group the whole day, so it looks like it was taken when they were hanging out together on a break? Maybe before the start of the games, or after they finished lunch? Since the people in the photo were the same as their lunch group when they were split 4 each across 2 tables. In any case, it was good weather for the Kookmin ship to sail! :love:
  • Filming: They sat beside each other for the most part, on the bus, for lunch etc. I read comments that said they were disappointed Jongkook didn't help Somin when she fell after spinning. I think he was focusing on the game, and the members nearest to her were there to help her up. What I found more meaningful is that Jongkook hasn't really been scolding/nagging Somin about her game skills these days. Whereas he was quick to scold Ji Sukjin and called Jihyo the King of destruction (based on the subs).  When Somin was worried about the strange make-up, he brought up that she could look cute hehe (in his eyes probably!). (as an aside, i love how 3 of her Oppas and Sechan all chimed in to bargain to reduce her penalty to 1 opening, with 1 really strong look hehe). Somin is such a good sport. Somin saying again she wants to get married through the show - foreshadowing? hehe

So all looks well to me still in Kookmin land. I don't think we can expect flirtation in every episode, it has to be organic. But we still see instances of how comfortable they are with each other, and there was the group shot on Instagram, so i'm still a happy kookmin camper. 

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20 hours ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

@Benji D you have gone far far ahead than the rest of us :)) if that day comes, our first job will be to get hold of that white dog in Gongju. it needs to stay alive till then to be the ring-bearer ;)) 

 

i haven't seriously thought about this part at all.  as a rule, i am against talented female celebrities putting an end to their career just because they got married. i see it as an incredible waste of talent. i also don't see having a family and having a career as mutually exclusive things.

 

since i am getting to know jsm, don't know much about her views on this. she does talk about marriage a lot on RM, as something which she has been waiting for her entire life. so that definitely is a milestone in her life which may not be true for other female entertainers. i also feel that if kjk gets married, he will start a family soon because of his age. so if he is getting married to a female celebrity, starting a family may take priority over other things for some time. in that way, marriage may mean for both of them something that requires prioritizing family over their careers at least for some time. all the things you see may be then getting ready for a phase which requires a bigger commitment in that sense, not necessarily the end of a career. 

 

i don't think we can compare jsm with yjs's wife or so ji sub's girlfriend.  jsm is an actress-entertainer much more popular than yjs's wife was or so ji sub's girl friend is. haha's wife is a singer who continues to have her career even after marriage. last year, haha took care of their baby because he wanted byul to have a comeback. 

 

 i also don't think we should judge the public reaction based on a few instagram haters. from whatever i have read and personally experienced on my channel, koreans love jsm. they love kookmin interactions. what they hate are lovelines that go nowhere. so if kookmin is going to be another loveline, they will hate it for sure. but if kookmin get married, the reaction will be different. it is real and i am pretty sure netizens will not tolerate haters who bully them just for getting married. even the agencies will intervene. kjk is a patient man but i don't think he will stand and watch if the woman he loves is getting harassed for that. i also don't think he is a coward to make his wife to go into retirement just because of a few bullies. if there is one thing i know about these two, it is that they don't care who hate them as long as they are true to themselves.

 

as far as i know, jsm has nowhere mentioned music show mc-ing as something she has  always wanted to do. i just see it as another great opportunity for her this year which just confirms that she is getting bigger as an entertainer. i also don't see her bagging the role as something that requires extra help. jsm is someone interested in music. she attends music concerts regularly and is considered to be a rising entertainer, not to forget the winner of an sbs top excellence award this year.  Her drama too created a buzz and many knetz loved her character. it is no surprise that she was chosen for the job. even when sbs made a promotional ad for  their shows, she and ysc's bro, yang se hyung were chosen to star in it. so i think this is just a phase in her career where she is getting picked for bigger platforms, not as the end of anything.

 

 

Actually I want to know what do they think about her, I saw a lot of malicious comments through Instagram but they're in English, what do netizens think about kookmin?

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Ep 424: After Jongkook "won" Somin, and they were teasing the male guest Hyoseop about being the first male guest not to be chosen. Loved the way he looked at her from the side, and then that widening smile as he hears Somin being cheeky about playing hard to get with the guest. 

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6 hours ago, Naye Calzada said:

Actually I want to know what do they think about her, I saw a lot of malicious comments through Instagram but they're in English, what do netizens think about kookmin?

 

on my channel, the koreans who comment all like/love jsm and find her cute. like i said in the channel comment section, the video with the highest views has jsm as the thumbnail - more than 160 k views. there are 2-3 korean kookmin fans who leave comments on my channel regularly.

as far as knetz comments are concerned, they enjoy kookmin interactions because they are refreshing. they like kookmin when it is natural. the top comments for the kookmin coffee date episode were how kookmin are more natural compared to the loveline. but if kookmin will turn into a loveline, many might hate it too. 

when jsm's mom wanting kjk as son-in-law was brought up , the comments which said it is a loveline were less than those which wondered if it will work with the age gap. as of now, most consider them as kookmin siblings than as a couple.

just like with some of the international viewers, i guess kookmin puzzle korean viewers too.

at least some may be observing their interactions with a bit more seriousness than the regular viewers. yesterday, when i checked the message board after the episode aired, one comment was that kjk is always at jsm's side. i hadn't watched the episode yet so i wondered what was going on. after watching the episode, i realised that poster was right.

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55 minutes ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

 

on my channel, the koreans who comment all like/love jsm and find her cute. like i said in the channel comment section, the video with the highest views has jsm as the thumbnail - more than 160 k views. there are 2-3 korean kookmin fans who leave comments on my channel regularly.

as far as knetz comments are concerned, they enjoy kookmin interactions because they are refreshing. they like kookmin when it is natural. the top comments for the kookmin coffee date episode were how kookmin are more natural compared to the loveline. but if kookmin will turn into a loveline, many might hate it too. 

when jsm's mom wanting kjk as son-in-law was brought up , the comments which said it is a loveline were less than those which wondered if it will work with the age gap. as of now, most consider them as kookmin siblings than as a couple.

just like with some of the international viewers, i guess kookmin puzzle korean viewers too.

at least some may be observing their interactions with a bit more seriousness than the regular viewers. yesterday, when i checked the message board after the episode aired, one comment was that kjk is always at jsm's side. i hadn't watched the episode yet so i wondered what was going on. after watching the episode, i realised that poster was right.

 

To add on, the CF deals that Somin is getting are mainly due to her exposure on RM, and she wouldn't have gotten those CF deals if the brands didn't think she was popular with the Korean public. 

 

Which message board do you go to? 

 

Regarding the coffee date, does anyone wonder which 3 dongsaengs Somin saw when she came to meet Jongkook and if she was exaggerating about them being handsome? Because the ones that I see regularly hanging out with Jongkook as part of his squad in MUD don't particularly belong in that category :joy:

 

Also I found it amusing how Jongkook was playing along when Somin ribbed Kwangsoo about being an extra wheel on the coffee date when Kwangsoo busted him and explained it was actually the opposite with Jongkook begging him to come. He tried to stop Kwangsoo at first before rolling with it and confessing. Kookmin have come a long way since then huh. 

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14 minutes ago, minahnoona said:

 

To add on, the CF deals that Somin is getting are mainly due to her exposure on RM, and she wouldn't have gotten those CF deals if the brands didn't think she was popular with the Korean public. 

 

Which message board do you go to? 

 

Regarding the coffee date, does anyone wonder which 3 dongsaengs Somin saw when she came to meet Jongkook and if she was exaggerating about them being handsome? Because the ones that I see regularly hanging out with Jongkook as part of his squad in MUD don't particularly belong in that category :joy:

 

Also I found it amusing how Jongkook was playing along when Somin ribbed Kwangsoo about being an extra wheel on the coffee date when Kwangsoo busted him and explained it was actually the opposite with Jongkook begging him to come. He tried to stop Kwangsoo at first before rolling with it and confessing. Kookmin have come a long way since then huh. 

 

i wonder how kjk explained lks suddenly popping in for their coffee date when it happened. did kjk say lks was feeling bored and was begging to join them and jsm, poor girl, believed him? :)))

 

lks breaking the bro code and betraying kjk was hilarious. kjk went into panic mode immediately and tried to shut him up but the damage was done. the pds laugh when a  sheepish kjk pulls jsm towards him claiming they are close. trying to appease her? ;)))

 

 kjk, you have my sympathy. jsm suddenly messages when going by the date, valentine's day is around the corner, asks him out for coffee and a very panicky kjk tries to call up all his dongsaengs because he can't say 'no' to jsm. still worried, he calls lks to make it look like a RM hangout but he doesn't want to hurt jsm's feelings by confessing he is scared of getting caught alone in public with her. 

 

kjk has come a long way from there. it was after that he started commenting publicly on her ig, invited her to his concert and started posting selfies with her. 

 

sorry i just can't believe kjk brought men handsomer than him on his coffee date ;)))

 

regarding the comments, i check the live comments on naver. some of them are comments to videos, some are comments to articles and some take me to sbs's running man forum/board.

 

~ soompi is addictive btw :0 ~ i don't get time to make videos these days because i am always spazzing :)))

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2 hours ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

 

i wonder how kjk explained lks suddenly popping in for their coffee date when it happened. did kjk say lks was feeling bored and was begging to join them and jsm, poor girl, believed him? :)))

 

lks breaking the bro code and betraying kjk was hilarious. kjk went into panic mode immediately and tried to shut him up but the damage was done. the pds laugh when a  sheepish kjk pulls jsm towards him claiming they are close. trying to appease her? ;)))

 

 kjk, you have my sympathy. jsm suddenly messages when going by the date, valentine's day is around the corner, asks him out for coffee and a very panicky kjk tries to call up all his dongsaengs because he can't say 'no' to jsm. still worried, he calls lks to make it look like a RM hangout but he doesn't want to hurt jsm's feelings by confessing he is scared of getting caught alone in public with her. 

 

kjk has come a long way from there. it was after that he started commenting publicly on her ig, invited her to his concert and started posting selfies with her. 

 

sorry i just can't believe kjk brought men handsomer than him on his coffee date ;)))

 

regarding the comments, i check the live comments on naver. some of them are comments to videos, some are comments to articles and some take me to sbs's running man forum/board.

 

~ soompi is addictive btw :0 ~ i don't get time to make videos these days because i am always spazzing :)))

 

I enjoy both your comments and your videos! Each new episode and videos bring even more comments hehe. 

 

As for Kwangsoo revealing Jongkook's secret, I can see where he's coming from - he probably felt affronted at being painted as an insensitive 3rd wheel in Somin's story when the it was Jongkook that was begging him to come that he had to let it out hehe. He didn't look like he was going to say anything about the coffee date until Somin pointed a finger at him and said he ruined things hehe. 

 

Considering they probably didn't have much personal contact outside the show before the coffee date. it really was very brave and outgoing of her to ask Jongkook out. It was Jongkook who didn't know how to deal with this sudden request to hang out, who made the panic messages to get people to come for the gathering. Like you said, Jongkook has come a long way since then, making lots of moves of his own. 

 

Thanks - maybe looking at the comments on the korean message boards can help me learn and improve my Korean orz

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HELLO, APOLOGIZE MY ENGLISH ... I would like to say that this last chapter was great ... what struck me most was that KJK throughout the program did not stop bothering JI SUK after he did not give space to JSM, he did not say anything but he sure got upset, because the whole program annoyed him so much that YU had to put himself in the middle. Another moment, well actually two was when he was sitting next to SJH in the bus, when she he sees a bus stop he touches KJK with his elbow as he warned them, he secretly removes his arm and raises the bottle of water a little, so as not to have much contact, he also went back to avoid contact in the seat ... it seems to me that now it looks uncomfortable, not before, and the surprising ending when she approached to enjoy the win and he avoided taking her hand and withdrew his arm ... incredible !!! Then those two sitting on the bench .. How exciting ... do not you think LKS tried to cover them? also why did they start recording if they were away?

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Wow! Thanks for all of the posts and eagle eyes. I’ll most likely be a lurker here, more than an active participant. Great fun to read your posts. Keep up the good work! :wub:

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1 hour ago, Laijan said:

HELLO, APOLOGIZE MY ENGLISH ... I would like to say that this last chapter was great ... what struck me most was that KJK throughout the program did not stop bothering JI SUK after he did not give space to JSM, he did not say anything but he sure got upset, because the whole program annoyed him so much that YU had to put himself in the middle. Another moment, well actually two was when he was sitting next to SJH in the bus, when she he sees a bus stop he touches KJK with his elbow as he warned them, he secretly removes his arm and raises the bottle of water a little, so as not to have much contact, he also went back to avoid contact in the seat ... it seems to me that now it looks uncomfortable, not before, and the surprising ending when she approached to enjoy the win and he avoided taking her hand and withdrew his arm ... incredible !!! Then those two sitting on the bench .. How exciting ... do not you think LKS tried to cover them? also why did they start recording if they were away?

Wow spot on, kjk really avoided taking sjh's hand and withdrew his arm during the surprising ending, and he even moved behind her as if to avoid further contact.  Wow wow wow.  Based on past episodes, kjk tends to hold his teammates hands when celebrating their wins, so this reaction is totally not his normal style.  You have very sharp eyes.  Wow wow wow, l still can't believe this.  :w00t::w00t::w00t:

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2 hours ago, Laijan said:

HELLO, APOLOGIZE MY ENGLISH ... I would like to say that this last chapter was great ... what struck me most was that KJK throughout the program did not stop bothering JI SUK after he did not give space to JSM, he did not say anything but he sure got upset, because the whole program annoyed him so much that YU had to put himself in the middle. Another moment, well actually two was when he was sitting next to SJH in the bus, when she he sees a bus stop he touches KJK with his elbow as he warned them, he secretly removes his arm and raises the bottle of water a little, so as not to have much contact, he also went back to avoid contact in the seat ... it seems to me that now it looks uncomfortable, not before, and the surprising ending when she approached to enjoy the win and he avoided taking her hand and withdrew his arm ... incredible !!! Then those two sitting on the bench .. How exciting ... do not you think LKS tried to cover them? also why did they start recording if they were away?

I thought that i was the only one who saw it ! It also seems to me that LKS tried to cover them and i wonder why !!  And yes KJK seems to avoid any physical contact with SJH. It's really surprising and i'm wondering what is really going on between JSM, KJK and SJH. I hope time will tell us ...

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18 hours ago, Laijan said:

HELLO, APOLOGIZE MY ENGLISH ... I would like to say that this last chapter was great ... what struck me most was that KJK throughout the program did not stop bothering JI SUK after he did not give space to JSM, he did not say anything but he sure got upset, because the whole program annoyed him so much that YU had to put himself in the middle. Another moment, well actually two was when he was sitting next to SJH in the bus, when she he sees a bus stop he touches KJK with his elbow as he warned them, he secretly removes his arm and raises the bottle of water a little, so as not to have much contact, he also went back to avoid contact in the seat ... it seems to me that now it looks uncomfortable, not before, and the surprising ending when she approached to enjoy the win and he avoided taking her hand and withdrew his arm ... incredible !!! Then those two sitting on the bench .. How exciting ... do not you think LKS tried to cover them? also why did they start recording if they were away?

 

I saw the same thing!!! But I didn't want to say anything. I was on instagram and saw that in one of the recent big picture episodes, it was assumed that jong kook was interested or is potentially seeing someone/ has someone in mind. The PDs of the shows were talking about how they think HaHa oppa is responsible for theem getting pregnant or having babies (obviously as a joke) and then HaHa said "then everyone should touch my nose (to bring them pregnancy goodluck I guess)" but jong kook added "I should avoid touching you then, because that will be big trouble for me" (something along those lines). I read the comments and people were saying why would jong kook say that if he is not seeing anyone etc.

 

Anyway, what I am trying to say is that, yes this episode JK did seem to be trying to avoid contact with SJH. This could really be for many reasons but what I can definitely say is that he did not avoid somin like that (except for maybe when she fell after spinning and ks/sechan/HaHa helped her up lol). I am not saying what ppl might be thinking but I am just stating what I saw on screen. When HaHa won the game for them, you see jong kook's reaction was to turn to ji suk jin who he was leaning on (I can't remember if he was leaning on him, but they were standing very close) and cheered with him, but somin's instinct was to turn to her right were jong kook was standing but at that point he had turned to ji suk jin so she turned back....but then jong kook noticed and still grabbed her arm to cheer. With SJH, she was genuinely excited when they won the last game and tried to grab jong kook's arm but he moved it away. Also when the camera intentionally filmed jongkok and somin sitting together with their backs turned, and kwangsoo came to block them, the camera zoomed in on jihyo's face (she looked a little sad no? Don't know why but it looked like she was teary eyed...but obviously not for the reason we think but my question is why does the camera zoom in on jihyo's face when kookmin interact nowadays. Might be a coincidence but it's just interesting) I am trying to write this from memory so I can't remember the specific details but at least you get the idea :) 

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i love how new posters are coming in and adding their observations and little details but i get worried when we bring in the other ship. you might be doing it without any malice and are genuinely curious, but let's be careful. 

 

i am a kjk fan and don't want his instagram to be turned into a party zone for haters from the other shippers and extreme jh fans. already i see so many comments blaming kjk. kjk's fans rarely do the kind of protective defense one sees on jsm's ig. it is easier to leave hate comments there. he also knows english so he will read all that they are posting. please don't add to that by bringing in comparisons like these. this will only bring more trolls here and more hate for kookmin. 

 

sjh had a loveline with kjk and was more in favour of it than kjk was, so the camera might be zooming in on her reactions for that reason. when jsm said she had her coffee date with kjk , there was zooming in at that time as well. it's just RM PD trying to add drama. let's ship kookmin but without worrying over how close kjk is with sjh or anybody else. they are friends and colleagues and they are at work, let that be.

 

it is fine to analyse kookmin skinship but please do not compare it with his skinship with someone else. already there is sominjongkookcouple account doing exactly that,  bringing in hate for kookmin by triggering spartace fans, making it seem like kjk is avoiding sjh or doesn't like her. that is really sad. they are all colleagues.

 

i am sorry if i am being a party pooper but please think about the big picture when we bring in other people and ships while discussing kookmin. there is plenty to discuss about kookmin skinship and interactions without needing that. if you want to do it and i can understand the curiosity, don't do it in a place where it can be misinterpreted.

 

 kookmin's friendship or dynamic, or whatever it is that we love about them, cannot be defined by close skinship alone. . we can see the trust between them growing and the friendship deepening and that is also something we can be happy about.

 

i am enjoying your discussions and new insights, but this is my worry. we need more rm fans to support kookmin if they become something more and that can only happen if we ship peacefully.  ours is a small fandom and we are just gaining fans, so all of us have to be more careful than bigger ships. thank you!:heart:

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1 hour ago, kookminclan RunningMan said:

Me encanta cómo llegan nuevos pósteres y sus observaciones y pequeños detalles, pero me preocupa cuando traemos el otro barco. Puede que lo esté haciendo sin ninguna malicia y que sea genuinamente curioso, pero seamos cuidadosos. 

 

Soy un fanático del kjk y no quiero que su instagram se convierta en una zona de fiesta para los que odian a los otros cargadores y fanáticos extremos. Ya veo tantos comentarios culpando a kjk. Los fanáticos de kjk rara vez hacen el tipo de defensa protectora que se ve en el ig de jsm. Es más fácil dejar comentarios de odio allí. también sabe inglés, así que leerá todo lo que publican. por favor, no agregue a eso trayendo comparaciones como estas. esto solo traerá más trolls aquí y más odio para kookmin. 

 

sjh tenía un loveline con kjk y estaba más a favor de él que kjk, por lo que la cámara podría estar enfocando sus reacciones por esa razón. cuando jsm dijo que tenía su cita de café con kjk, en ese momento también se estaba haciendo zoom. Es solo RM PD intentando añadir drama. enviemos kookmin pero sin preocuparnos por lo cerca que está kjk con sjh o con cualquier otra persona. son amigos y colegas y están en el trabajo, dejemos que eso sea.

 

está bien analizar el skinship de kookmin pero, por favor, no lo compare con su skinship con otra persona. ya hay una cuenta sominjongkookcouple que hace exactamente eso, provocando el odio por kookmin al activar a los fanáticos de spartace, haciendo que parezca que kjk está evitando a sjh o no le gusta. Eso es muy triste. todos ellos son colegas

 

Lo siento si estoy siendo un agente de la fiesta, pero por favor piense en el panorama general cuando traemos a otras personas y barcos mientras discutimos sobre kookmin. hay mucho que discutir sobre el skinship y las interacciones de kookmin sin necesidad de eso. Si quieres hacerlo y puedo entender la curiosidad, no lo hagas en un lugar donde pueda ser malinterpretado.

 

 La amistad o dinámica de Kookmin, o lo que sea que amamos de ellos, no se puede definir solo por una relación estrecha. . Podemos ver cómo crece la confianza entre ellos y cómo se profundiza la amistad, y eso también es algo de lo que podemos sentirnos felices.

 

Estoy disfrutando de sus discusiones y nuevas ideas, pero esta es mi preocupación. necesitamos más fanáticos de rm para apoyar a kookmin si se convierten en algo más y eso solo puede suceder si realizamos envíos pacíficos. El nuestro es un fandom pequeño y solo estamos ganando fans, así que todos tenemos que ser más cuidadosos que los barcos más grandes. ¡gracias!:corazón:

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