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[Drama 2019] Graceful Family, 우아한 가

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19 minutes ago, ii panda said:

I give Picasso the honors of being my first dp. We ol good? How long do I have to carry Picasso again? :lol:

 

I kept it for a day but I think that only a few people decided to change their DPs.  I thought the spitting fish was really funny anyhow--that was how I felt when I saw the finale.  :P

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6 minutes ago, thistle said:

 

I kept it for a day but I think that only a few people decided to change their DPs.  I thought the spitting fish was really funny anyhow--that was how I felt when I saw the finale.  :P

I'm gonna change my dp to WS after 24 hours then. Picasso is not gonna get more love from me than my happy pill (Mo Wan Soo) despite his giving me a bitter aftertaste.

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1 hour ago, ii panda said:

I'm gonna change my dp to WS after 24 hours then. Picasso is not gonna get more love from me than my happy pill (Mo Wan Soo) despite his giving me a bitter aftertaste.

 

I kinda think that this was just an "honor" call--we could chose to change or not.  If you want to change to WS, I'd say go for it.  You honored the notion of changing to Picasso for at least a little while; that should be sufficient.  WS will make a great dp.  :) 

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1 hour ago, thistle said:

 

I kinda think that this was just an "honor" call--we could chose to change or not.  If you want to change to WS, I'd say go for it.  You honored the notion of changing to Picasso for at least a little while; that should be sufficient.  WS will make a great dp.  :) 

 

Honestly I really enjoyed seeing everyone change their profiles and then seeing those people on other threads. Not many people understood why people randomly had fishes and tofu so I enjoyed the inside joke. I'm also gonna miss my tofu kiss DP, that kiss was hot.

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The more I think about it, the more bothered I feel about the ending of our drama because, despite appearances to the contrary, Evil won.

 

YD's mom got out of jail but she got No justice for the time she lost.

SH and YD might be in love but she left him for years anyway.

YD had the chance to do great good by re-creating Top but he left the job.

SH became CEO but she didn't even try and left it to someone else. 

SH tried to go to law school but failed. (Why did she even need to go anyway?) 

Second Wife lost her eldest son but only cried tears for herself.

Second Wife went to jail but not for long enough.

Second Son lost his brother but was too distracted by pretty jewelry to care.

Second Son also went to jail but, ditto, not long enough.

Mr. Mo should also have gone to prison but escaped by being in a vegetative coma.

Han went to prison but for a far shorter sentence than her illegal acts should have received.

Other Top members may have also gone to jail but, again, with very light sentences.

 

Seriously, did all of the prison sentences added together even add up to the number of hears that Lim Soon served for a murder that she had absolutely nothing to do with?

 

For all of the suffering that SH and YD individually went through in their formative years and as adults, did they get any happiness at all of being in love?  No, they chose to go their separate ways to do essentially futile things.

 

Worst of all, WS did not choose to live to seek forgiveness and to find redemption.  He was the kindest person whose one mistake was a very serious one.  If he had been allowed to tell the truth right away instead of living with the agony of guilt, how much good could he have achieved?   And what a great person could he have been if only his parents had believed in him from the beginning.

 

We never did find out why WS's parents hated him from the start.

We never did find out what motivated Han.

There are unanswered questions that really rankle.

 

In the end, all we see is the old Top Team scuttling away like so many cockroaches.  And we all surely know that cockroaches can survive anything, even a nuclear blast.

 

In the end, all of the good people chose to do smaller and less important things than the big things that they had fought so hard to achieve.  They didn't even choose love.

 

I don't like it when Evil wins.  Real Life is hard enough so I try to find some happiness in fiction.  In my dramas, I want to see a light at the end of the tunnel.  I want to see hope rather than despair.  I want to see goodness, courage, and hard work rewarded.  And, more than anything, I want to see true love.

 

I didn't get what I was hoping for.  This drama goes onto my Disappointment List. 

 

 

 

.....and now I'm trying to move on.  I'm re-watching One Spring Night where at least, thank goodness, love prevails.

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I see what the writers did! Did anyone else catch this?

 

WS's suicide announcement on TV coincided with the news that his film won the Cannes Film Festival award, which ironically made him the most successful Mo family member in public accomplishment, which of course his mother will now have to live with. I wonder if this minor plot twist was an homage to Paradise, the Korean Film, which won the actual Cannes Film Festival award for best picture, the first by a Korean in its history.

 

The plot of Paradise, written and directed by Bong Joon Ho, is about the tragic circumstances surrounding the fate of a family who conspire to take over the service positions of a wealthy chaebol family, very similar to the Mo family.

 

Clever, writers!

 

(EDIT: Or was WS's character based upon Bong himself? Only Kwon Min Soo and Park Min Kyung know for sure ;))

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I can't change my dp to WS afterall.. Or at least, not now. I feel so sad seeing him. I'll just keep the fish for a little while. 

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1 hour ago, ii panda said:

I can't change my dp to WS afterall.. Or at least, not now. I feel so sad seeing him. I'll just keep the fish for a little while. 

 

Understandable.  I really did have a nightmare after seeing how WS ended.  So sad.  So unfair.  Such a bad choice on the part of the writer.

 

Great actor, though.  I wonder what else he has been in.  Will have to find out.

 

Enjoy the spitting fishie.  He's funny and cute. 

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2 hours ago, thistle said:

 

Understandable.  I really did have a nightmare after seeing how WS ended.  So sad.  So unfair.  Such a bad choice on the part of the writer.

 

Great actor, though.  I wonder what else he has been in.  Will have to find out.

 

Enjoy the spitting fishie.  He's funny and cute. 

Usually he’s in weekend drama. I know him from about three of them. I disliked his character in two and loved his character in one. I love his character in this drama. It’s rare to see him in a weekday drama.

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15 hours ago, thistle said:

Han went to prison but for a far shorter sentence than her illegal acts should have received.

Other Top members may have also gone to jail but, again, with very light sentences.

so I am not sure if I am right and I don't have the heart to re-watch ep 16 to be sure but I think the reason the top members got light sentences is because they were only sued on one case -- the ex-wife of wan joo and her being manipulated by the chef. that is the only one they had evidence for as they had the recording. thats why the top members got such light sentences and it was related to violation of privacy act and something to do with hacking. as for ms han, they had no direct evidence that she hid evidence in the murder and so the charges that she could be prosecuted on were fairly less. yea, it is unfair that their other crimes didn't get exposed but I guess we have to satisfied that they were prosecuted on something....

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It took a while before I gathered my wits to re-watch the subbed episode. LOL again and again, the drama was superb, not until the last episode. :(  I didn't like that WS was the culprit (although he has been my guess from the start), I didn't like how TOP team got away  with just a few years in jail, notwithstanding the gravity of their crimes. The romance was so-so but I didn't expect much of it to begin with since the plot revolved around TOP and the MO family,  but I did expect a kiss better than just a wholesome peck :sweat_smile: 

 

WS deserved so much more than what he got. I imagined him being diagnosed with a bipolar disorder (or whatever mental disorder) and SH would have had a difficult time forgiving him but at least he was alive to see his movie making it to Cannes and his mom contrite to how she treated him all these years, asking for his forgiveness in the mental ward or something and crying her brains out because she pushed him to the edge. But then again, if he hadn't committed suicide, the burden for Ms Ha wouldn't have been this heavy.  She will have to live with guilt  for the rest of her life especially after knowing that he did what he did because of her. And WJ would somehow feel more remorseful for how he treated his brother when all he wanted was to get at least half of the love he is getting from their mom. My heart still hurts for him! :dissapointed_relieved:

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Right, the last ep rushed things a bit I just didn't think it wrapped up very well and TOP didn't get punished properly.  But at least the good people won and our leads are happy together. This drama was a joyride with lots of twists and turns, def a must watch!

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They could have searched the top headquarters for more evidence. From all we know it's save to assume that they did a lot more crimes than the ones we just know from the drama. If they had all that power above politicans, judges, prosecutors etc there also has to be material on them. Illegal measures how they got them, blackmailing etc. And it's ridiculous to assume that the trial now just happens in a vacuum where everything is fair and based on evidence.

There must be a lot of people who would want Ms Han and TOP gone.

 

Or if you f you want to do a more bleak ending. Those people might be afraid that all the dirt on them leaks and that's why they would want to protect Ms Han. Then you have your everything is evil and they fight for a more just society in the next season.

 

This way it was just weird, illogical and not satisyfying.

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hi ! i just want to know what happened to the company after wan jo got arrested and mo seok hee left to  states? who became Chairman? because MR. Mo never woke up.

2nd question why 2nd wife gave gold in a box  to a woman who visited when Wan jo saw her giving gold . what was the reason?

 

and after 2 years of imprisonment when 2nd wife and wan joon will get released will They live in main house? and continue as they were doing before will wan joon be able to participate in company affairs?

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2 hours ago, Dennise Gumihid said:

may I know what happened to the necklace suk hee has given to her ex sister in law?

 

Sorry that I can't help--hopefully someone will remember.

 

Unfortunately the ending of Graceful Family made me so angry that I actually had nightmares about it, and I no longer recall details. 

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