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[Drama 2019] Graceful Family, 우아한 가

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22 hours ago, ii panda said:

Anybody remembers which episode she first appeared prior to being a TOP member?

 

At the beginning of episode 5, she is a judge.  She meets Grandpa Mo after she makes a harsh sentence at a trial.  Is this what you were looking for?

 

editing to add:   it may have been several years later after the verdict that she meet GMo in 2001.  She was disillusioned and angry about not getting promoted.

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3 hours ago, philosophie said:

Soo late to the discussion about the kiss, but can I just fangirl about it?! I loved how their make out sesh, no one was stiff and awkward, it was very natural and passionate, and I love how clever they have gotten now. I ship them so bad!!! 

 

Don't worry, one can never be too late to discuss a kiss..or lack thereof. :lol:

 

I mean after that public display, what is wrong with YD not taking 'advantage' of having SH in his turf? SH must be very disappointed. Lol. Do you think we'll get another kiss? Or at least a time jump where we we get to see little YDs and SHs? :P

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7 hours ago, ii panda said:

what is wrong with YD not taking 'advantage' of having SH in his turf? SH must be very disappointed.

 

I was disappointed, too.  That was a really weird interval with her in his room.  It was just sort of Not Cute and squirmy--just didn't fit in somehow. Couldn't really imagine his dad being okay with them in the same room either.

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1 hour ago, thistle said:

 

I was disappointed, too.  That was a really weird interval with her in his room.  It was just sort of Not Cute and squirmy--just didn't fit in somehow. Couldn't really imagine his dad being okay with them in the same room either.

They didn’t sleep in the same room. She used his room alone, but politely decline sleeping on his bed as his father suggested, so they laid out a mattress for her on the floor. YD went out of the room after wishing her good night, to sleep in his father’s room, I suppose. 

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Poor YD. He tried to ‘freshen up’ his man cave but ended up just over doing it. He reminded me of myself when I end up putting too much perfume for a first date haha. Wow these two need a first date already! They are already started to do pda with hand holding, and just closer in general. I love the team’s handshake too by the way...I can see them doing it at TOP haha if they all end up working there.

 

You know, I have to give my commentary on the TOP employees because it’s what makes me look at Ms Ha from a different perspective. Objectively, there are some things about Ms Ha that don’t make her overall a treacherous and evil person. She isn’t homophobic-as seen with how she treated WJs secret. Her employees are extremely loyal to her-the subordinate didn’t listen to mo when she was in custody and replace her. Th thing about her employees being loyal to her, is that these are normal, non wealthy and privileged people like most that ms Ha work with. Why do such powerless people support a corrupt person like Ms Ha? Obviously it’s behind their pay day as they could still get paid if they remained loyal to mo. I hope I make sense.

 

Wow I cannot believe we are are having the finale this week..time flies. I don’t know what will happen, but if WS is hopefully not the culprit, I’m fine with seeing him as CEO...and SH leading top with YH. Of course i would love to see girl power and SH become CEO too but I wonder besides her moms murder case being cleared, does she really want to lead company? I can’t wait to hear all your guys prediction and theories for the ending.

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49 minutes ago, philosophie said:

Poor YD. He tried to ‘freshen up’ his man cave but ended up just over doing it. He reminded me of myself when I end up putting too much perfume for a first date haha. Wow these two need a first date already! They are already started to do pda with hand holding, and just closer in general. I love the team’s handshake too by the way...I can see them doing it at TOP haha if they all end up working there.

 

You know, I have to give my commentary on the TOP employees because it’s what makes me look at Ms Ha from a different perspective. Objectively, there are some things about Ms Ha that don’t make her overall a treacherous and evil person. She isn’t homophobic-as seen with how she treated WJs secret. Her employees are extremely loyal to her-the subordinate didn’t listen to mo when she was in custody and replace her. Th thing about her employees being loyal to her, is that these are normal, non wealthy and privileged people like most that ms Ha work with. Why do such powerless people support a corrupt person like Ms Ha? Obviously it’s behind their pay day as they could still get paid if they remained loyal to mo. I hope I make sense.

 

Wow I cannot believe we are are having the finale this week..time flies. I don’t know what will happen, but if WS is hopefully not the culprit, I’m fine with seeing him as CEO...and SH leading top with YH. Of course i would love to see girl power and SH become CEO too but I wonder besides her moms murder case being cleared, does she really want to lead company? I can’t wait to hear all your guys prediction and theories for the ending.

But their loyalty is based on that principal that what they are doing is not that evil.... like murdering someone. They have no idea that they are actually covering up for the murderer. Her employees are not aware that she is involved in MWP's death. They were not present, when she ensured that Mo would get a heart attack. So far, she has presented the case from 15 years ago as something that would damage MC Group. In their eyes, she might be harsh and brutal but they don't suspect her that she killed someone. They got  unsettled, when Ms. Han asked to increase the pressure onto JYI indicating that they didn't like the idea. 

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Kiss making - is more better than original :joy: - the way he hug the director he couldn’t believe he finally kissed her :sweat_smile:

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

But their loyalty is based on that principal that what they are doing is not that evil.... like murdering someone. They have no idea that they are actually covering up for the murderer. Her employees are not aware that she is involved in MWP's death. They were not present, when she ensured that Mo would get a heart attack. So far, she has presented the case from 15 years ago as something that would damage MC Group. In their eyes, she might be harsh and brutal but they don't suspect her that she killed someone. They got  unsettled, when Ms. Han asked to increase the pressure onto JYI indicating that they didn't like the idea. 

Oh yeah! The look the employees shared when she was like no we need to push more and involve the son. And while they may feel responsible for the death of JYI, they have no idea like you said that they are also accomplices in covering up this murder unknowingly. So will they switch sides and end up helping SH?

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Continuing with my re-watch. 

 

Interesting thing I've noticed:  Second Son was trying to do something with "green" business.  The land transactions that Han was trying to broker involved Greenbelt areas.  And the case that got Han involved with MC group originally was when she gave a heavier-than-expected sentence to an environmental polluter (who, it appears was backed by MC Group).

 

This is probably not important.  It's too late in the series for another storyline to come up.  But it does seem that there is a curious green thread that is woven into the cloth of our drama.

 

 

I just remembered something:  Han was reading that book before that was sort of anti-tech.   Hey, I've got it:  she's green, she's anti-tech, so maybe Han is a closet Luddite?  

(yes, I am just being silly; re-watching will do that to a person)

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kekek... guess I am one of the few who didn't mind that we didn't have a follow up kissy kissy scene in the last episode. actually the kiss scene and the sweet OTP scenes that came after felt more organic and a kissy kissy scene would have felt a bit strange for me.

 

in the last episode, we had a sweet confession where she holds his hands and says that she is lucky to have him by her side. he just smiles and they keep walking -- so they are cementing their relationship as long term without having to discuss it at length. neither are filled with doubt or worry wondering what does that kiss mean, where they do they stand etc. they already know and there is no need to discuss it.with a typical OTP, both will be processing the kiss and there's confusion as they try to figure out what is next. here, there's no need and it is  is because of what's happening around them and how they have built the relationship.

 

they are in a war footing with ms han and TOP and in that sense, there's no room for distractions. they need to be agile and quick on their feet. they can't afford to be caught up in other feelings. so that little break in the room where they are both aware of each other and she smiles as she realizes that he cleaned up the room for her is enough for that moment. they both need peaceful sleep where they can switch on their brain for the fight of the next day.

 

also given all the drama in the earlier episodes, they built their relationship out of a slow dance of trust, respect and opening up to each other. in that sense, the kiss is a climax and not a beginning. there's already a great deal of emotional intimacy where both are open about their frustrations and disillusions -- so in that sense, the relationship is already far deeper than a typical OTP after a first kiss.

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Hello, I just joined watching this drama & so far I’m loving it. It’s refreshing to see no backstabbing & unnecessary jealousy between main couples. And I love the story stick to its original plot..finding the real murdere of AJR..after 14 episodes I just want to share my 2 cents..

 

Firstly, I suspect all the death in Mo’s family designed by Han. Han is a power crazy woman. She believes being a judge she was the ultimate power, but she realized it wasnt the case after she handled the MC case. So being offered a job at MC she grab the opportunity to gain as much power as possible...however she cant  get what she wants as long Grandpa Mo is in control, thus tried to kill him via the accident. 

 

As per ep 14, here’s are the finding

1) SK is not Chairman’s Mo biological daughter but she is Grandpa Mo’s daughter. And I suspect SK is not AJR’s biological daughter. She has been married to chairman Mo for many years but still didn’t conceived. Then chairman Mo had affair with his nurse & had 2 sons with her & chase AJR out from their main house. For some reson he still visited AJR from time to time. At the same time I think Grandpa Mo had affair with some other woman, she got pregnant & to hide the child, probably Grandpa Mo asked AJR to fake her pregnancy & gave her the child once his mistress gave birth. I’m sure once YSH heard abt AJR’s pregnancy she wont allow Chairman Mo to visit AJR & keeps pestering jomnto divorce AJR. When he didn’t, she plan with the doctor to feed AJR  with drugs so Chairman wud divorce her becos of her addiction 

 

2) we can safely cross WJ’s name as the AJR’s murderer when he questioned WS’s whereabouts at the time of the muder becos it seems like he often wondered that WS’s alibi wasn’t consistent.

 

3) WS isn’t as simple as he presented himself. He knows from young the his parents, especially his mom groomed WJ as the next heir. Despite his failure track record I suspect he is one shrewd & cunning guy. I’m not even surprised he has good business skills underneath all that love for for arts & filmaking talk.

 

I hope none of Mo family member murdered AJR but Han did it out of her own greed. And in the end I hope SK will run MC corp, HYD will lead top, chairman wud retired, WS go on making film, WJ will go to Paris as he plan & lives his life as he wants, and YSH wud accompany Han in prison for her parts of destroying AJR’s health  & stealing AJR’s work

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@wildcherry I really liked your analysis about Ms. Han. It gave a really new perception of her. She became a judge in order to get the ultimate power only to realize that power from a huge corporation is even stronger. So her harsh sentence could be seen in a different light too. On the surface, it looked like she cared for the environment and people, while in reality she wanted to demonstrate her power. She gave a harsher sentence that was asked by the prosecution office. This would explain why MWP misjudged her in the end. He thought, her verdict reflected her righteousness, while it only revealed her love for power display and her coldness. 

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Look at all the beautiful cakes. I feel that Graceful Family casts received  the most beautiful cakes as compared to other dramas wrap up party. Some like wedding cakes, lol. 

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I'm still re-watching but now I've gotten to the difficult parts where the Evil side gets too many wins, where Grandpa Mo is murdered, and everything is taken away from SH. 

 

It was hard to watch the first time and it isn't any easier the second.  I think I'm gonna hopscotch through like a kangaroo.  ;)

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That kiss was unexpected! But they're so cute together. I don't want to see them taking turns getting arrested anymore, time for the real fight now!

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7 hours ago, thistle said:

I'm still re-watching but now I've gotten to the difficult parts where the Evil side gets too many wins, where Grandpa Mo is murdered, and everything is taken away from SH. 

 

It was hard to watch the first time and it isn't any easier the second.  I think I'm gonna hopscotch through like a kangaroo.  ;)

Saaame. It was difficult to get past that episode. lol I was cursing under my breath and could not fathom the fact that they were winning~ 

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