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[Drama 2019-2020] Crash Landing on you, 사랑의 불시착

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  1. 1. What will happen to the OTP at the end of this drama?

    • Sweet happy ending for Ri-ri in SK
    • Cue sad music ..the divide is just too great ..the OTP will be separated
    • An open ending where they will meet again on the bridge in Switzerland ...

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Some questions on the Baeksang Awards, hope someone can help enlighten me :)

 

1. Will the artists, film industry peeps, etc. be attending the ceremony live? I read somewhere that there won't be an audience due to covid19 but not sure if this is referring to live guest audience or everyone? If they are attending, it'll be so amazing to see the whole CLOY cast there!

 

2. I read somewhere also that normally a particular show will not win all/most the categories they're nominated in because it will be distributed between different shows? Not sure how this is like based on past year patterns..and I'm pretty new to this whole baeksang awards thing. It would be so satisfying to see CLOY take home Best Drama, Actor, Actress, Screenwriting, and Director at least but...if the above mentioned is true, I guess I should lessen my expectations? Even though they completely deserve it in all the categories haha.

 

3. The Daesang award can be open to any categories (show/actor/actress/etc.)? And will there be 1 respectively for both the tv & film category?

 

3. Is the baeksang awards the highest accolade for the film industry in SK? I know they call it the "Oscars of Korea" so..does it mean to win a Baeksang award is considered the highest form of recognition ?

 

Thanks in advance! Learning quite abit about K-ent these days!

 

 

21 hours ago, TotoroSY said:

Hi @anney  Great to see new fans of CLOY coming here to discuss and chat about the drama! This forum will remain open as long as Soompi forum is around, at least that's how I understand it LOL!! The review you quoted above was also one of my favorite! It captured the same feelings I had when I watched CLOY - I expected it to be cheesy and may even be a disaster on ratings, cuz of the initial negative comments before it even aired - didn't expect for myself to fall in love with it almost immediately LOL! When Ep 1 ended with RJH pulling YSR into his house and he just looked intensely at her under the lamp, and then the OST started ..... I was a goner hahaha!! And then that classic Epilogue of Captain Ri smiling secretly as YSR hangs on the tree with her funny walkie talkie talk..... Ep 2 was even better cuz we started to see more of the NK village, the F4 soldiers, the ahjummas, and of course the standoff between YSR and Captain Ri. It was Rom.Com at its best!! If I recall correctly, Ep 2 ended with Captain Ri walking in gallantly and proclaim YSR as his fiancee? That's when I cried, NO, I have to wait another week to find out what happens next??? I think that was probably the time I started searching for news and forums about CLOY and landed here on Soompi Forum lol!

 

You're welcome! It's been a long time since I've been so passionate about a drama or TV show. It was really fun to discuss CLOY while the episodes were airing. After the finale, this forum went on for awhile but quieten down later. So it's nice that it's active again. :D Plus, the news and accolades keeps coming in from different parts of the world, so I wanted to update this forum with the latest too.

 

LOL!! I get what you mean by not wanting to watch other SYJ and HB dramas yet. Most of their dramas are romance comedy so if you are not ready to watch them with other romantic interest co-stars, then better not see it yet for now. But you can try catching their movies cuz not all are romance genre. The first one you should catch is the one starring HB and SYJ called The Negotiation. It was their first time working together, and cuz of that they wanted to work together again, then CLOY came along and the rest was history. Other non-romance movies I can remember top of mind :

HB - Confidential Assignment, The Swindlers

SYJ - The Last Princess, Truth Beneath

 

As for Kdramas recommendation :

 

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I've watched 4 of the ones you've listed above - IC, MLFTS, Signal, DOTS (partial only, like you I couldn't get pass it, went to last ep to see ending).

- Since you like Signal which is investigative, you can try Stranger (Secret Forest).

- For romance, try Because This is My First Life and Healer,

- and if you wanna try fantasy-romance, there's Goblin.

- The Reply series is always good so do try that one too!

- And you may want to check out Sky Castle for a satire/ dark comedy genre - it's the 2nd highest rated cable TV drama but was #1 until it was overtaken by World of The Married just recently.
 

 

 

 

 

Phew, good to know! I hope the thread will come more alive during the baeksang awards haha! And yess I think like us, many people truly didn't expect much or didn't have any expectations (like me) in starting CLOY...then, just like how the OTP fell head over heels in love, so did we with the show lol. It's been a loooong time too since I was this in love with a drama (esp korean!). My 2 favourite k-dramas back in the day was All About Eve (2000) and My Girl (2005) I was still in school back then hahaha and then k-dramas just dropped off the grid for me since..I wasn't even interested about shows like Goblin/DOTS despite the hype and nothing brought my interest back to k-dramas until well..CLOY haha. 

 

Thanks for the recommendations! I definitely would wanna watch The Negotiation unfortunately it's not on Netflix so gotta find it somewhere else..I just started Strangers thanks to your recommendation! Ep 1 is good enough for me so far..looks like this will be on my watch list for now. Will push REPLY 1988 to another time haha. I've been more of a crime/thriller series person for some time but deep down i do enjoy the romance/rom-com stuff...just that it's really hard to find good ones that makes me emotionally invested in the characters and doesn't make me cringe. CLOY is the golden standard that's hard to beat.

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29 minutes ago, anney said:

Some questions on the Baeksang Awards:

 

1. Will the artists, film industry peeps, etc. be attending the ceremony live? I read somewhere that there won't be an audience due to covid19 but not sure if this is referring to live guest audience or everyone? If they are attending, it'll be so amazing to see the whole CLOY cast there!

 

2. I read somewhere also that normally a particular show will not win all/most the categories they're nominated in because it will be distributed between different shows? Not sure how this is like based on past year patterns..and I'm pretty new to this whole baeksang awards thing. It would be so satisfying to see CLOY take home Best Drama, Actor, Actress, Screenwriting, and Director at least but...if the above mentioned is true, I guess I should lessen my expectations? Even though they completely deserve it in all the categories haha.

 

3. Is the baeksang awards the highest accolade for the film industry in SK? I know they call it the "Oscars of Korea" so..does it mean to win a Baeksang award is considered the highest form of recognition ?

 

Thanks in advance! Learning quite abit about K-ent these days!

 

Hi there! Will try to answer the best I can cuz I am also relatively new to all these Korean awards since I became more invested cuz of CLOY. :D Am actually more familiar with Oscars, Golden Globe and Emmys LOL!!

 

1. No audience here may refer to fans as previous years, I believe they do sell/ give out tickets to fans or general public (I notice that in previous years telecast where I see fans holding up placards to support their idols). I think for sure the nominees and the presenters, and maybe those who are presenting songs etc will be there. Not sure if ALL the cast of the dramas are invited (not familiar with that) but it could be true for Best Drama nominees. So hopefully, most of the CLOY cast will be there. At least for sure we already have a LOT of them as part of the nominees :

- Writer

- Director

- SYJ, HB (Best actress/ actor)

- Pyo Chi Soo, Seo Dan and one of the NK ahjumma (Best supporting)

Some of the CLOY cast are nominated via other TV shows or films

- The Rat actor - nominated under World of the Married (Best Supporting)

- Seo Dan's mom and uncle - nominated under Parasite movie for Best New Actor/ Actress (guess they are new in movies?)

But for those nominated under another production, they may sit with closer to their other teams (not sure, just assumption)

 

2. From my observation, yes, Baeksang tend to distribute the awards around.

- Of course I also think it depends on the number of high quality TV shows in the nomination list.

- For some years when one particular TV show was very outstanding above others, it will win more awards (maybe 3-4 awards). For example last year, Sky Castle won Best Director, Best Actress, Best Supporting Actor, Best New Actress (BUT not Best Drama). Another good example is 2011 (47th Baeksang) where Secret Garden swept up many major awards - Daesang (for HB), Best Drama, Best Screenplay, Best New Actress

- While googling about this, I noticed one interesting year in 2014 50th Baeksang - My Love From Another Star (same writer as CLOY) won Daesang for Jun Ji-hyun (actress) but not other major awards. The only other award is Most Popular Actor 

- This year, I think the competition between the dramas and acting categories are very very close. So....anything goes LOL!! 

(except for WOTM star Kim Hee Ae - she is gonna win either Daesang or Best Actress, I think)

 

3. Yes, Baeksang can be considered the highest accolade for TV Shows.

-  But for Film, there are others who are also as prestigious as Baeksang like Blue Dragon. For TV shows, other awards like Seoul Awards are probably quite highly regarded too. Some public TV stations like KBS, SBS, MBC have their own awards but only for their own dramas. Unfortunately TVN which is the cable drama for CLOY do not have their own awards.

 

 

54 minutes ago, anney said:

Phew, good to know! I hope the thread will come more alive during the baeksang awards haha! And yess I think like us, many people truly didn't expect much or didn't have any expectations (like me) in starting CLOY...then, just like how the OTP fell head over heels in love, so did we with the show lol. It's been a loooong time too since I was this in love with a drama (esp korean!). My 2 favourite k-dramas back in the day was All About Eve (2000) and My Girl (2005) I was still in school back then hahaha and then k-dramas just dropped off the grid for me since..I wasn't even interested about shows like Goblin/DOTS despite the hype and nothing brought my interest back to k-dramas until well..CLOY haha. 

 

Thanks for the recommendations! I definitely would wanna watch The Negotiation unfortunately it's not on Netflix so gotta find it somewhere else..I just started Strangers thanks to your recommendation! Ep 1 is good enough for me so far..looks like this will be on my watch list for now. Will push REPLY 1988 to another time haha. I've been more of a crime/thriller series person for some time but deep down i do enjoy the romance/rom-com stuff...just that it's really hard to find good ones that makes me emotionally invested in the characters and doesn't make me cringe. CLOY is the golden standard that's hard to beat.

 

Yes, hope this thread will become more active during Baeksang time! Actually, a lot of the CLOY fans are also shippers of HB-SYJ, so many are active at the BINJIN Shipping thread. They also tend to discuss a bit about Baeksang but not in depth like here, since that would be considered off-topic there. 

 

Looks like you were into Kdramas during the 1st Hallyu Wave back in early-2000. I was too. And then got into other stuff after that and just returned to Kdramaland recent years. But CLOY has hit me hard vs any other Kdramas since I first started watching again.

 

Glad you are enjoying Strangers! I actually watched it twice, cuz I also love crime/ thriller shows. They are actually filming Strangers 2 now. :D  I think you will like Healer, cuz it's both Rom.Com and also mystery/ thriller/ action.  You can also try HB's Memories of the Alhambra as it's mostly action with minor romance. Esp if you like gaming and role-play games. :D

 

 

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2 hours ago, anney said:

 

1. Will the artists, film industry peeps, etc. be attending the ceremony live? I read somewhere that there won't be an audience due to covid19 but not sure if this is referring to live guest audience or everyone? If they are attending, it'll be so amazing to see the whole CLOY cast there!

 

2. I read somewhere also that normally a particular show will not win all/most the categories they're nominated in because it will be distributed between different shows? Not sure how this is like based on past year patterns..and I'm pretty new to this whole baeksang awards thing. It would be so satisfying to see CLOY take home Best Drama, Actor, Actress, Screenwriting, and Director at least but...if the above mentioned is true, I guess I should lessen my expectations? Even though they completely deserve it in all the categories haha.

 

3. The Daesang award can be open to any categories (show/actor/actress/etc.)? And will there be 1 respectively for both the tv & film category?

 

3. Is the baeksang awards the highest accolade for the film industry in SK? I know they call it the "Oscars of Korea" so..does it mean to win a Baeksang award is considered the highest form of recognition ?

 

1. I m not sure though but I think it will include minimal number of peeps. In the past Baeksang was attended by general audiences but this time I guess only nominees,presenters and other performers are allowed.They have booked a huge place called KINTEX hall for it so I suppose atleast nominees are allowed.

2.Yes you are right.As far as I have read they normally tend to distribute awards among most of the nominees. Although in my eyes CLOY is the best but its competitors are also fierce. So I don't think it will gonna sweep all the awards.It would be better to keep minimum expectations and who knows we may be surprised..ha !ha.!

 

3.Yes Daesang is open to any category. Winner is generally chosen from the nominations from various categories.Infact Variety shows along with dramas are also taken into account for TV Daesang.Movies and  TV have different Daesang.

 

4. I have heard it being called as The Golden Globe of Korea or sometimes The Oscars of Korea. It is the only award show which gives away prizes for movies,tv and theatre at such a large scale.There are other two big awards namely The Grand Bell (started in 1962) and The Blue Dragon Awards(started in 1963). However these two award shows only recognise people having exceptional skill in movie industry only unlike Baeksang (it first started in 1965). Thus I m not sure which of the following could be called Oscars. But all three are the biggest award shows out there in Korea.

Guess what ,want to know a little Trivia?

SYJ has won in all the three award shows  for best actress category.It is indeed a rare feat and there are very very few actresses to have achieved this. 

 

PS: You can watch The Negotiation on YouTube.It is available with English subs.

 

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I’d like to add another list of some of the best  scenes in CLOY - those tender moments that are subtly heart wrenching but full of meaning:

 

1. The scene with the orphan boy and his sister enjoying the goodies Seri packed for them (I cried! How many of these children are out there in NK/the world?) 

2. When Seri asked for a hug but RJH’s offered a handshake instead. 

3. When Eun-dong told Seri how much he misses his mother and wondering how they’re holding up in the winter. 

4. When all Eun-dong wanted was that school uniform 

5. RJH’s happy birthday speech. Seri hated her bdays because it’s a reminder of her mom’s pain and animosity towards her but Jeong Hyeok gave it a whole new meaning. 

5. Gu Seong Joon’s scenes with the orphan boy at the market. He saw himself in him.  
6. The conversation between Seo Dan and RJH moms when they were breaking off the engagement. 
7. When Man Bok ran in front of RJH to protect him from being shot and all 4 ducklings followed suit. Brotherhood ftw! 
8. While in the car and RJH’s dad asked him if Seri is doing okay and he nodded yes but tears fell. 
 

 

Feel free to add more guys!  

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5 hours ago, MsHoon2219 said:

I’d like to add another list of some of the best  scenes in CLOY - those tender moments that are subtly heart wrenching but full of meaning:

 

1. The scene with the orphan boy and his sister enjoying the goodies Seri packed for them (I cried! How many of these children are out there in NK/the world?) 

2. When Seri asked for a hug but RJH’s offered a handshake instead. 

3. When Eun-dong told Seri how much he misses his mother and wondering how they’re holding up in the winter. 

4. When all Eun-dong wanted was that school uniform 

5. RJH’s happy birthday speech. Seri hated her bdays because it’s a reminder of her mom’s pain and animosity towards her but Jeong Hyeok gave it a whole new meaning. 

5. Gu Seong Joon’s scenes with the orphan boy at the market. He saw himself in him.  
6. The conversation between Seo Dan and RJH moms when they were breaking off the engagement. 
7. When Man Bok ran in front of RJH to protect him from being shot and all 4 ducklings followed suit. Brotherhood ftw! 
8. While in the car and RJH’s dad asked him if Seri is doing okay and he nodded yes but tears fell. 
 

 

Feel free to add more guys!  

5) gosh that birthday speech. How he said he was grateful she was born etc...melted my heart!!!! 

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Korea media picking up on CLOY's success in Japan. :D

 

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2020/05/21/2020052102205.html

Korean TV Hit Spellbinds Japanese in Lockdown

 

May 21, 2020 12:59

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"Crash Landing on You," a hit drama series about the implausible love story between a South Korean heiress and a North Korean military officer, has been the most watched TV series in Japan on Netflix for three weeks in a row.

The series wrapped up here in February to great acclaim but can now be streamed abroad.

Japan's Fuji TV cited the individual charms of stars Son Ye-jin and Hyun Bin, Japanese viewers' curiosity about life in North Korea, and sheer boredom in lockdown.

 

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VAST Entertainment actually posted this article on their Facebook page!! Don't see that so often. I guess it's because of the recent popularity of CLOY and HB in Japan.

 

https://www.dailian.co.kr/news/view/891921?sc=Naver&fbclid=IwAR16iHY9xB-FHetSNvKBUgA4PX9rHMpCJ6R4-LBP0uasnGYscj8ODI8XLTc

 

Here's the english translation using Papago translator :

 

"Love Flame" syndrome...Asia is 'Hyun Bin's Disease'

 

Actor Hyun Bin continues his "Hyun Bin syndrome" that has crossed the border.
 

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While the tvN drama "Emergency Arrival of Love," which ended in February, continues to catch the attention of the world, interest in actor Hyun Bin, who is at the center of the box office, is hot.

According to the agency on the 22nd, as the popularity of "Love Fire" continues in Japan, local media are scrambling to analyze Hyun Bin's charm and paying attention to Hyun Bin's filmography. The magazine Elle Japan described the character of Lee Jung-hyuk, played by Hyun Bin, as "the king of Hallyu dramas in Japan," and praised him for his existence itself as a fantasy. Vogue Japan also added to the review, calling it the "ideal male image of modern society."

Japan is not the only one who has fallen into Hyun Bin. Southeast Asian countries, including China, the Philippines and Thailand, are also receiving heated responses. Rumor has it that celebrities are voluntarily certifying "Hyun Bin's Sickness" by referring to "Love Fire" in person and posting a composite picture with Hyun Bin on their personal SNS, while local broadcasters feature the "Love Fire" craze.

The "Emergency Arrival of Love" is drawing attention in the British and American regions beyond Asia. After being named as the "Recommendation of International Series to Watch" by the Washington Post in the U.S., it is one of the most popular Korean dramas in 2019 by Forbes.

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Oh my! giddy over that article @TotoroSY thank you for posting! CLOY and Hyun Bin world domination! LOL! Hoping Netflix or Reelgood will release data on its most watched TV show for the year. Considering how many times people have rewatched the show (guilty here!) there’s a good chance it might make it on the list. Haha! 

 

On another note, thank you all for sharing insights on how the Baeksang works. I tend to get very anxious over things so I try not to think about it too much LOL but hoping and praying CLOY will bag major wins!  
 

 

I’ve also been watching other kdramas to get over CLOY but I keep coming back to it lmao. Like I would watch one episode of one show and then watch one episode of cloy too. No other drama has this same effect on me. I need help lol. I haven’t seen a lot of kdramas but why does CLOY have to set the bar so frikken high now LOL! 

 

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Kdramas I have watched post CLOY: 

 

1. Chicago Typewriter - slow start and I almost gave it up but it got much better towards the mid to end eps. I cried a few times and ended up actually loving it. 
2. Mr. Sunshine - took a while for me to get into it but the production is impressive so I kept watching lol. Great story and I also cried a lot. I got a little crush on Go Dong Mae now. Just a little. Capt Ri still holds my heart lol 

3. Reply 1988 - 1st ep bored me but they say it’s good so I keep watching. I’m now on ep 2. Well see how it goes 

4. Prison Playbook - still on ep 1. Lol 
 

 

Kdramas I have watched pre CLOY:


1. Save The Last Dance for Me - this was my most favorite kdrama before CLOY and this came out like 16 yrs ago hahah 

2. Lovers in Paris - enjoyable but meh ending 

3. Coffee Prince - Honestly all I could remember now was the bed scene and the younger Goblin guy was cute back then hahah

5. Boys Over Flowers - had to watch because I loved Meteor Garden lol. This was a fun adaptation but I think I like the 2018 Chinese version better. 
6. Descendants of the Sun - I loved this series but not so much for me to keep rewatching it. And I remember being more invested on the 2nd leads. I thought the 2nd guy lead was hotter. Lol 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, MsHoon2219 said:

Oh my! giddy over that article @TotoroSY thank you for posting! CLOY and Hyun Bin world domination! LOL! Hoping Netflix or Reelgood will release data on its most watched TV show for the year. Considering how many times people have rewatched the show (guilty here!) there’s a good chance it might make it on the list. Haha! 

 

On another note, thank you all for sharing insights on how the Baeksang works. I tend to get very anxious over things so I try not to think about it too much LOL but hoping and praying CLOY will bag major wins!  
 

 

I’ve also been watching other kdramas to get over CLOY but I keep coming back to it lmao. Like I would watch one episode of one show and then watch one episode of cloy too. No other drama has this same effect on me. I need help lol. I haven’t seen a lot of kdramas but why does CLOY have to set the bar so frikken high now LOL! 

 

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Kdramas I have watched post CLOY: 

 

1. Chicago Typewriter - slow start and I almost gave it up but it got much better towards the mid to end eps. I cried a few times and ended up actually loving it. 
2. Mr. Sunshine - took a while for me to get into it but the production is impressive so I kept watching lol. Great story and I also cried a lot. I got a little crush on Go Dong Mae now. Just a little. Capt Ri still holds my heart lol 

3. Reply 1988 - 1st ep bored me but they say it’s good so I keep watching. I’m now on ep 2. Well see how it goes 

4. Prison Playbook - still on ep 1. Lol 
 

 

Kdramas I have watched pre CLOY:


1. Save The Last Dance for Me - this was my most favorite kdrama before CLOY and this came out like 16 yrs ago hahah 

2. Lovers in Paris - enjoyable but meh ending 

3. Coffee Prince - Honestly all I could remember now was the bed scene and the younger Goblin guy was cute back then hahah

5. Boys Over Flowers - had to watch because I loved Meteor Garden lol. This was a fun adaptation but I think I like the 2018 Chinese version better. 
6. Descendants of the Sun - I loved this series but not so much for me to keep rewatching it. And I remember being more invested on the 2nd leads. I thought the 2nd guy lead was hotter. Lol 

 

 

 

 

 

It looks like all the Japan articles and news about CLOY is starting to make its way to Korean media, which is great cuz am hoping it will influence Baeksang judging LOL!! There has been many many fans of CLOY from different parts of the world who claimed they have rewatch CLOY repeatedly. 2-3X, 4-6X, some even say 10X !!! LOL!! I think it's cuz each and every scene is full of "kilig" (I have to borrow this Filipino word cuz don't know what word to use in english lol! I'm not filipino btw haha) and the chemistry between the characters, esp the OTP, is off the charts. So each time you watch it, you have the same "kilig" feel. :D  I believe it's cuz of this rewatch and also the continuous articles recommending CLOY, that it stays at Top 10 in many countries even after 3 mths of the finale. I don't see any other Kdramas having the same impact.

 

Praying hard for Baeksang too! I'm keeping my expectations very very low, cuz don't want to get disappointed. I did the same for the nominations, and the results were much better than I expected. So gonna have the same approach for the actual award too. I will be very glad to see the whole CLOY team at the award event to see their happy reunion after 3 months. :D

 

I do the same on rewatch - I've about to complete my 3rd rewatch but I intersperse it with other dramas. :D  I like to repeat dramas that I like, esp the ones that can give me the same feel even on rewatch. CLOY is going to be my list of rewatch for a very loooong time!

 



Wow, you have started a lot of new dramas.

-  haven't watch Chicago Typewriter (maybe cuz reviews were average, so it influenced my decision) nor Mr Sunshine (very strong reviews but I don't really like the male lead cuz of past scandals, and don't like war movies/ scenarios that much)

- Reply 1988 - I also struggle to continue watching and stopped at Ep 8. I think I need the right mood for it. I actually enjoyed Reply 1997 more, maybe cuz it's more cheerful

- Prison Playbook - this needs a bit of time to get into - it will get very funny once the main male lead get into prison. The characters are all zany but lovable

 

Hospital Playlist - it's on Netflix now and I love this one a lot! Also takes a bit more time to get into - its the same director/ writer as Reply series and Prison Playbook

 

- I super love Coffee Prince and have rewatch it a lot of times. It made Yoon Eun Hye the Female Lead into a superstar, but unfortunately she has hit a bit of a slump and didn't get a hit drama for years now. It also made Gong Yoo a hallyu star but then he went straight to military after that and didn't get a good drama until Goblin

- DOTS - I just can't get into this series. I find the script a bit too cheesy and the humour a bit off. Also prefer the 2nd OTP - much better acting and chemistry vs 1st OTP, in my humble opinion

-  BOF - was not in the Meteor Garden craze but watched it much much later. I actually love the original manga a lot more. :D

- Save the last dance and Lovers in Paris - phew, pretty old dramas which were very famous. I think I have watched them but can't recall the stories much now lol!

 

 

@eLizza  Yes, I recall you mentioning about double wins for Daesang Baeksang from much earlier years of the award. I think there was one year there were 2 awardees, either for best drama or best actor. Who knows, anything can happen!!

 

 

 

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On 5/20/2020 at 11:25 PM, TotoroSY said:

 

Hi there! Will try to answer the best I can cuz I am also relatively new to all these Korean awards since I became more invested cuz of CLOY. :D Am actually more familiar with Oscars, Golden Globe and Emmys LOL!!

 

1. No audience here may refer to fans as previous years, I believe they do sell/ give out tickets to fans or general public (I notice that in previous years telecast where I see fans holding up placards to support their idols). I think for sure the nominees and the presenters, and maybe those who are presenting songs etc will be there. Not sure if ALL the cast of the dramas are invited (not familiar with that) but it could be true for Best Drama nominees. So hopefully, most of the CLOY cast will be there. At least for sure we already have a LOT of them as part of the nominees :

- Writer

- Director

- SYJ, HB (Best actress/ actor)

- Pyo Chi Soo, Seo Dan and one of the NK ahjumma (Best supporting)

Some of the CLOY cast are nominated via other TV shows or films

- The Rat actor - nominated under World of the Married (Best Supporting)

- Seo Dan's mom and uncle - nominated under Parasite movie for Best New Actor/ Actress (guess they are new in movies?)

But for those nominated under another production, they may sit with closer to their other teams (not sure, just assumption)

 

2. From my observation, yes, Baeksang tend to distribute the awards around.

- Of course I also think it depends on the number of high quality TV shows in the nomination list.

- For some years when one particular TV show was very outstanding above others, it will win more awards (maybe 3-4 awards). For example last year, Sky Castle won Best Director, Best Actress, Best Supporting Actor, Best New Actress (BUT not Best Drama). Another good example is 2011 (47th Baeksang) where Secret Garden swept up many major awards - Daesang (for HB), Best Drama, Best Screenplay, Best New Actress

- While googling about this, I noticed one interesting year in 2014 50th Baeksang - My Love From Another Star (same writer as CLOY) won Daesang for Jun Ji-hyun (actress) but not other major awards. The only other award is Most Popular Actor 

- This year, I think the competition between the dramas and acting categories are very very close. So....anything goes LOL!! 

(except for WOTM star Kim Hee Ae - she is gonna win either Daesang or Best Actress, I think)

 

3. Yes, Baeksang can be considered the highest accolade for TV Shows.

-  But for Film, there are others who are also as prestigious as Baeksang like Blue Dragon. For TV shows, other awards like Seoul Awards are probably quite highly regarded too. Some public TV stations like KBS, SBS, MBC have their own awards but only for their own dramas. Unfortunately TVN which is the cable drama for CLOY do not have their own awards.

 

Yes, hope this thread will become more active during Baeksang time! Actually, a lot of the CLOY fans are also shippers of HB-SYJ, so many are active at the BINJIN Shipping thread. They also tend to discuss a bit about Baeksang but not in depth like here, since that would be considered off-topic there. 

 

Looks like you were into Kdramas during the 1st Hallyu Wave back in early-2000. I was too. And then got into other stuff after that and just returned to Kdramaland recent years. But CLOY has hit me hard vs any other Kdramas since I first started watching again.

 

Glad you are enjoying Strangers! I actually watched it twice, cuz I also love crime/ thriller shows. They are actually filming Strangers 2 now. :D  I think you will like Healer, cuz it's both Rom.Com and also mystery/ thriller/ action.  You can also try HB's Memories of the Alhambra as it's mostly action with minor romance. Esp if you like gaming and role-play games. :D

 

 

 

Thank you for the detailed insights and info!! For someone relatively new to korean film awards, you're very well informed! 

Yeahh the 1st hallyu wave ala winter sonata days oh myy haha! Glad to find people with similar experiences here :) Ooh I found Healer on Netflix, added to 'my list' haha thank you!! Have saved MoA too on my list but will probably watch it after my RiRI emotions have subsided to the point I can see either of them in another on-screen romance. 

 

I've been lurking on the BINJIN Shipping Thread! That thread is so active hahaa and I noticed some familiar names there too :)

 

5 hours ago, TotoroSY said:

VAST Entertainment actually posted this article on their Facebook page!! Don't see that so often. I guess it's because of the recent popularity of CLOY and HB in Japan.

 

https://www.dailian.co.kr/news/view/891921?sc=Naver&fbclid=IwAR16iHY9xB-FHetSNvKBUgA4PX9rHMpCJ6R4-LBP0uasnGYscj8ODI8XLTc

 

Here's the english translation using Papago translator :

 

"Love Flame" syndrome...Asia is 'Hyun Bin's Disease'

 

Actor Hyun Bin continues his "Hyun Bin syndrome" that has crossed the border.
While the tvN drama "Emergency Arrival of Love," which ended in February, continues to catch the attention of the world, interest in actor Hyun Bin, who is at the center of the box office, is hot.

According to the agency on the 22nd, as the popularity of "Love Fire" continues in Japan, local media are scrambling to analyze Hyun Bin's charm and paying attention to Hyun Bin's filmography. The magazine Elle Japan described the character of Lee Jung-hyuk, played by Hyun Bin, as "the king of Hallyu dramas in Japan," and praised him for his existence itself as a fantasy. Vogue Japan also added to the review, calling it the "ideal male image of modern society."

Japan is not the only one who has fallen into Hyun Bin. Southeast Asian countries, including China, the Philippines and Thailand, are also receiving heated responses. Rumor has it that celebrities are voluntarily certifying "Hyun Bin's Sickness" by referring to "Love Fire" in person and posting a composite picture with Hyun Bin on their personal SNS, while local broadcasters feature the "Love Fire" craze.

 

"Ideal male image of modern society" - Can kick butt, protect, cook, make coffee, ride you home on a bike, buy your groceries, take a bullet for you - all while being a respectful, upright gentleman. Sorry all you single men out there, we understand it's a hard standard to beat :D 

 

Talking about the term "king of hallyu dramas"...I know SYJ is called the "Queen of Melodrama" in SK...but is there a "King of Melodrama" titled bestowed on any actor? Haha! I've not seen HB's other works but just from CLOY alone and from some articles written, it seems HB really shines best in the romance genre. If anything, I see it so befitting that the "King & Queen of melodrama/romance" coming together in CLOY is practically a once-in-a-lifetime gift to us fans! 

 

 

On 5/21/2020 at 12:25 AM, eLizza said:

1. I m not sure though but I think it will include minimal number of peeps. In the past Baeksang was attended by general audiences but this time I guess only nominees,presenters and other performers are allowed.They have booked a huge place called KINTEX hall for it so I suppose atleast nominees are allowed.

2.Yes you are right.As far as I have read they normally tend to distribute awards among most of the nominees. Although in my eyes CLOY is the best but its competitors are also fierce. So I don't think it will gonna sweep all the awards.It would be better to keep minimum expectations and who knows we may be surprised..ha !ha.!

 

3.Yes Daesang is open to any category. Winner is generally chosen from the nominations from various categories.Infact Variety shows along with dramas are also taken into account for TV Daesang.Movies and  TV have different Daesang.

 

4. I have heard it being called as The Golden Globe of Korea or sometimes The Oscars of Korea. It is the only award show which gives away prizes for movies,tv and theatre at such a large scale.There are other two big awards namely The Grand Bell (started in 1962) and The Blue Dragon Awards(started in 1963). However these two award shows only recognise people having exceptional skill in movie industry only unlike Baeksang (it first started in 1965). Thus I m not sure which of the following could be called Oscars. But all three are the biggest award shows out there in Korea.

Guess what ,want to know a little Trivia?

SYJ has won in all the three award shows  for best actress category.It is indeed a rare feat and there are very very few actresses to have achieved this. 

 

PS: You can watch The Negotiation on YouTube.It is available with English subs.

 

 

Thank you for the input too! Yeahh SYJ has a LONG list of awards and accolades it's crazy (yet totally warranted)! I was wondering though..I realized from HB's profile that all his award wins/nominations are from his drama projects..Not sure if the list there is updated but I find it quite surprising that he doesn't have more award wins/nominations than some other actors who are less known.

 

Hope it doesn't sound like a comparison, just that it's genuinely surprising given his A-list status and his depth of acting talent and skills, etc, he would have raked up a looong list of awards because it's well deserved. So I guess it's a surprising fact is that he hasn't received as many nominations/awards for his many film works and also by other awarding bodies like Blue Dragon, Grand Bell, etc.

 

I recognize he has some outstanding achievements such as being the youngest actor to ever win the Daeksang which is daebak!

 

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@anney I haven’t seen most of HB and SYJ’s work either esp those that aren’t on Netflix. CLOY definitely has become a big boost on their acting resumes and will be one of their most iconic roles. Capt Ri has become the standard of being the perfect boyfriend (sorry boys!) and Seri is that girlboss and fashion icon! I think HB is more on dramas while SYJ dominates the movies. If HB can’t be king of anything he can settle being the king of our hearts for now. Lol 

 

I’ve also been lurking on the BINJIN thread but I couldn’t really keep up with the discussion as they tend to go fast so I just lurk lol 


I also have a tough time watching their other dramas cause I couldn’t bear to see them with other onscreen partners yet lol but I did watch MoA though 

 

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I watched it just for HB! Lol His character’s a bit of jerk but he was a total eye candy in that series. I forgot to add it to my list of kdramas I have watched post cloy. Lol. I couldn’t get into it for the 1st few eps too but it got better after ep 5 or so I think. The romance angle is a bit off as he doesn’t really have chemistry with Park Shin Ye and the show could honestly do without it so it wasn’t really needed imo but the story is pretty good and unique you will root for him towards the end. 


 

@TotoroSY oh yes! That’s the perfect word! Super ‘kilig’ indeed! That’s probably one of my most favorite filipino words. Lol! It doesn’t have a literal english equivalent but the closest I can think of is ‘giddy’ added with lots of pink bubbles, heart fluttering and butterflies in the tummy. Hahah and you’re right, it’s most likely the reason people have been rewatching CLOY endlessly. I, for one can’t get over with the ‘kilig’ no matter how many times I have seen it so here I am in this thread. Lmao 

 

I also didn’t expect much for the Baeksang nominations to avoid disappointment and I was happy to be surprised! I’d have the same approach as you and just hope for the best. Who knows, CLOY might be nominated for the Emmy’s too since it’s a Netflix show lol. Parasite won the Oscars so it isn’t too far fetched and there’s Emmy’s for international shows if I am not mistaken so I hope CLOY will get more recognition! 
 

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I’ve been meaning to start watching Hospital Playlist because Mr. Sunshine’s Go Dong Mae is also there but I’m a bit hesitant cause I’m not really a big fan of hospital shows. Please tell me it’s better and much more lighthearted than Grey’s Anatomy and I’ll give it a go :lol:

 

and ohhh curious about Mr. Sunshine’s scandals I didn't know about that. I’ll google. Lol

 

You got me on Strangers! Will add it to my list too. Thanks!

 

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4 hours ago, anney said:

Thank you for the detailed insights and info!! For someone relatively new to korean film awards, you're very well informed! 

Yeahh the 1st hallyu wave ala winter sonata days oh myy haha! Glad to find people with similar experiences here :) Ooh I found Healer on Netflix, added to 'my list' haha thank you!! Have saved MoA too on my list but will probably watch it after my RiRI emotions have subsided to the point I can see either of them in another on-screen romance. 

 

I've been lurking on the BINJIN Shipping Thread! That thread is so active hahaa and I noticed some familiar names there too :)

 

Nice to see this thread active again!! Well, whenever I get interested in a subject matter, I spent hours googling and reading up about it. For example. cuz of CLOY, I have read countless articles and watched countless videos about North Korea, NK defectors stories etc etc. It was so interesting. Same for Baeksang, because of CLOY, I googled and compared results of different dramas and actors to see the trend LOL!! Yes, I can be quite crazy like that. Previously I have also spent hours on The Lord of The Rings and Game of Thrones. :D

 

Binjin thread is super active! It's always listed as the most active thread in Soompi Forum (if you check the right-side of the screen). You can just read and get updated if you're too busy to join to chat.

 

4 hours ago, anney said:

"Ideal male image of modern society" - Can kick butt, protect, cook, make coffee, ride you home on a bike, buy your groceries, take a bullet for you - all while being a respectful, upright gentleman. Sorry all you single men out there, we understand it's a hard standard to beat :D 

 

Talking about the term "king of hallyu dramas"...I know SYJ is called the "Queen of Melodrama" in SK...but is there a "King of Melodrama" titled bestowed on any actor? Haha! I've not seen HB's other works but just from CLOY alone and from some articles written, it seems HB really shines best in the romance genre. If anything, I see it so befitting that the "King & Queen of melodrama/romance" coming together in CLOY is practically a once-in-a-lifetime gift to us fans! 

 

The writer, and HB, has really created the "perfect boyfriend" in Captain Ri. One drama blogger said this was HB's most SWOONABLE role. And I totally agree. It's no wonder all the ladies from different countries are swooning crazily over HB, courtesy of his role as RJH. Plus it helps that HB does give the same vibes as RJH.

 

You are right that SYJ is the Queen of Melodrama cuz of her roles in movies (and also dramas but mainly movies) - The Classic,  A Moment to Remember, Summer Scent (drama) etc. Have never heard of King of Melodrama before hahaha! But I think some media do call HB as the King of Romcom or Romance? It's true that he got very popular through this genre of dramas, from My Name if Kim Sam Soon, to Secret Garden and now the 3rd wave CLOY. Actually for CLOY, both of them acted roles that's a bit different from their usual :

 - SYJ - YSR is a comedic and funny role, on top of the melodrama in the later part of the series. Quite different from her previous image on screen

- HB - RJH is so gentlemanly and understanding, softspoken and caring (through his actions). Again very different from his most famous roles of rich chaebol heir who is arrogant and quite a jerk LOL!

 

4 hours ago, anney said:

Thank you for the input too! Yeahh SYJ has a LONG list of awards and accolades it's crazy (yet totally warranted)! I was wondering though..I realized from HB's profile that all his award wins/nominations are from his drama projects..Not sure if the list there is updated but I find it quite surprising that he doesn't have more award wins/nominations than some other actors who are less known.

 

Hope it doesn't sound like a comparison, just that it's genuinely surprising given his A-list status and his depth of acting talent and skills, etc, he would have raked up a looong list of awards because it's well deserved. So I guess it's a surprising fact is that he hasn't received as many nominations/awards for his many film works and also by other awarding bodies like Blue Dragon, Grand Bell, etc.

 

I recognize he has some outstanding achievements such as being the youngest actor to ever win the Daeksang which is daebak!

 

Actually you are right. SYJ is probably one of the most prolific SK movie actress of her time and has won countless awards. Even HB has given a lot of respect to her during their interviews together, whether for the movie Negotiation or CLOY. As for HB, he is more well-known within dramas and yes, it's a big deal that he is still the youngest actor/ actress to have won the TV Daesang at Baeksang. He did get nominated a number of times for Best Actor at Baeksang but have lost to other actors, except the year he got Daesang. As for movies, he hasn't been as active until recent years, where he seems to have chosen the route of action roles. In his earlier movie years, he acted in more smaller independent films with more melo/ dramatic roles. He might still pick up this type of roles in movies in the future.

 

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I watched it just for HB! Lol His character’s a bit of jerk but he was a total eye candy in that series. I forgot to add it to my list of kdramas I have watched post cloy. Lol. I couldn’t get into it for the 1st few eps too but it got better after ep 5 or so I think. The romance angle is a bit off as he doesn’t really have chemistry with Park Shin Ye and the show could honestly do without it so it wasn’t really needed imo but the story is pretty good and unique you will root for him towards the end. 

 

@TotoroSY oh yes! That’s the perfect word! Super ‘kilig’ indeed! That’s probably one of my most favorite filipino words. Lol! It doesn’t have a literal english equivalent but the closest I can think of is ‘giddy’ added with lots of pink bubbles, heart fluttering and butterflies in the tummy. Hahah and you’re right, it’s most likely the reason people have been rewatching CLOY endlessly. I, for one can’t get over with the ‘kilig’ no matter how many times I have seen it so here I am in this thread. Lmao 

 

I also didn’t expect much for the Baeksang nominations to avoid disappointment and I was happy to be surprised! I’d have the same approach as you and just hope for the best. Who knows, CLOY might be nominated for the Emmy’s too since it’s a Netflix show lol. Parasite won the Oscars so it isn’t too far fetched and there’s Emmy’s for international shows if I am not mistaken so I hope CLOY will get more recognition! 
 

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I’ve been meaning to start watching Hospital Playlist because Mr. Sunshine’s Go Dong Mae is also there but I’m a bit hesitant cause I’m not really a big fan of hospital shows. Please tell me it’s better and much more lighthearted than Grey’s Anatomy and I’ll give it a go :lol:

 

and ohhh curious about Mr. Sunshine’s scandals I didn't know about that. I’ll google. Lol

 

You got me on Strangers! Will add it to my list too. Thanks!

 

 

I like your description of KILIG : ‘giddy’ added with lots of pink bubbles, heart fluttering and butterflies in the tummy.

It's really a perfect expression of how I feel when I watch CLOY. Plus a lot, a lot of belly-bending laughter!

 

Yes, don't set any expectations for Baeksang. Then we won't be so nervous as we wait for the results LOL!! Just pray for the best! 

Wow, CLOY nominated in Emmy's? That would be incredible!! Even if it's not Emmy's, I am hoping that CLOY will get some sort of recognition outside of Asia in the form of award nominations or even popularity awards.

 



MOA - same like you, I couldn't get into the series until later, when Jin Woo/ HB returned after 1 year. I was so confused by the gaming rules LOL! And yes, the OTP chemistry is not so great. Seems the writer built in the romance part kinda last minute cuz she thot audience will expect it. Maybe that's why the romance story is not cohesive

 

Hospital Playlist - it's a very different type of hospital shows vs Grey's Anatomy. It focuses on on the humane aspect and relationships of the 5 key players, and the people around them. A lot about friendship and also how the people within the hospital relate to each other. Can be very very funny and also very very poignant and touching. I just love the feeling it gives me each time I watch one episode. The pace is not stressful and frenetic (like Grey's Anatomy) but more peaceful and everyday-like.

 

 

 

 

 

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Does anyone know if there will be a link to watch the live stream of the  Baeksang Awards? 

I live in Canada...so it would be midnight for me when the awards is on. 

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On 5/14/2020 at 10:18 AM, TotoroSY said:

Crush sang his CLOY OST "Let Us Go" during a live session today! The song is so wonderful! It's at 29:35 in the video. He started with acapella, really so nice.

 

Thank you thank you for this @totoroSY - i have been looking and looking for these performances by the original artists from the OST soundtrack but can only find covers on youtube. My favorite is All My Days by Sejeong. 

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On 5/15/2020 at 12:18 AM, TotoroSY said:

Crush sang his CLOY OST "Let Us Go" during a live session today! The song is so wonderful! It's at 29:35 in the video. He started with acapella, really so nice.

 

Thank you thank you for this @totoroSY - i have been looking and looking for these performances by the original artists from the OST soundtrack but can only find covers on youtube. My favorite is All My Days by Sejeong. 

 

I love all the songs in CLOY! Very nostalgic and emotional songs, suited to the story and characters. It was really nice to watch the live performance for Let Us Go by Crush, and how everyone in the recording cheered and clapped after he finished it. I realise as he sang it that it was not an easy song to sing. But he nailed it!

 

Have not seen any live version of All My Days by Sejeong yet. The only other live singing was by IU for I give you my heart, but it was only a short rendition during an interview..... wish she had sang the whole song.

 

 

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19 hours ago, NYXbaby said:

Does anyone know if there will be a link to watch the live stream of the  Baeksang Awards? 

I live in Canada...so it would be midnight for me when the awards is on. 

 

I saw this on tweeter. Hope this link will work for Baeksang live stream! Let's all start to register for Vlive now to get prepared!

 

 

 

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23 hours ago, MsHoon2219 said:

@anney I haven’t seen most of HB and SYJ’s work either esp those that aren’t on Netflix. CLOY definitely has become a big boost on their acting resumes and will be one of their most iconic roles. Capt Ri has become the standard of being the perfect boyfriend (sorry boys!) and Seri is that girlboss and fashion icon! I think HB is more on dramas while SYJ dominates the movies. If HB can’t be king of anything he can settle being the king of our hearts for now. Lol 

 

I’ve also been lurking on the BINJIN thread but I couldn’t really keep up with the discussion as they tend to go fast so I just lurk lol 


I also have a tough time watching their other dramas cause I couldn’t bear to see them with other onscreen partners yet lol but I did watch MoA though 

 

totally understand hahaha! From what i heard/read...I guess MoA doesn't focus too much on the romance part at least heh.

 

22 hours ago, TotoroSY said:

Nice to see this thread active again!! Well, whenever I get interested in a subject matter, I spent hours googling and reading up about it. For example. cuz of CLOY, I have read countless articles and watched countless videos about North Korea, NK defectors stories etc etc. It was so interesting. Same for Baeksang, because of CLOY, I googled and compared results of different dramas and actors to see the trend LOL!! Yes, I can be quite crazy like that. Previously I have also spent hours on The Lord of The Rings and Game of Thrones. :D

 

*High 5* fellow LOTR fan!! Haven't watch GoT yet as I've no HBO haha. Talking about LOTR...remember when they swept the Academic Awards back then? It was nearly unheard of back then right for a fantasy genre to win Best Picture? Yet they did, along with many other awards! So who knows...as much as people may put a tight reign on their expectations for CLOY at Baeksang because it's a "rom-com"..never say never eh? I personally feel it's unjust to push aside a film/drama just because of its particular genre. A job well done is a job well done, regardless of the genre and I hope awarding bodies will start to look beyond the genre names.

 

22 hours ago, TotoroSY said:

The writer, and HB, has really created the "perfect boyfriend" in Captain Ri. One drama blogger said this was HB's most SWOONABLE role. And I totally agree. It's no wonder all the ladies from different countries are swooning crazily over HB, courtesy of his role as RJH. Plus it helps that HB does give the same vibes as RJH.

 

You are right that SYJ is the Queen of Melodrama cuz of her roles in movies (and also dramas but mainly movies) - The Classic,  A Moment to Remember, Summer Scent (drama) etc. Have never heard of King of Melodrama before hahaha! But I think some media do call HB as the King of Romcom or Romance? It's true that he got very popular through this genre of dramas, from My Name if Kim Sam Soon, to Secret Garden and now the 3rd wave CLOY. Actually for CLOY, both of them acted roles that's a bit different from their usual :

 - SYJ - YSR is a comedic and funny role, on top of the melodrama in the later part of the series. Quite different from her previous image on screen

- HB - RJH is so gentlemanly and understanding, softspoken and caring (through his actions). Again very different from his most famous roles of rich chaebol heir who is arrogant and quite a jerk LOL!

 

Actually you are right. SYJ is probably one of the most prolific SK movie actress of her time and has won countless awards. Even HB has given a lot of respect to her during their interviews together, whether for the movie Negotiation or CLOY. As for HB, he is more well-known within dramas and yes, it's a big deal that he is still the youngest actor/ actress to have won the TV Daesang at Baeksang. He did get nominated a number of times for Best Actor at Baeksang but have lost to other actors, except the year he got Daesang. As for movies, he hasn't been as active until recent years, where he seems to have chosen the route of action roles. In his earlier movie years, he acted in more smaller independent films with more melo/ dramatic roles. He might still pick up this type of roles in movies in the future.

 

I hope so!! he's already so naturally swoon-worthy that any well-written characters in a romance drama/film would make him the golden standard of a life partner for many lol. 

 

On the topic about lead characters in k-dramas...has it been a long on-going trend/norm where the male leads are usually rich, proud, cold and domineering and the female leads are damsels in distress, the average girl next door, etc.. Wonder if that was a very common/typical characteristics for k-drama leads in the past decade? Maybe the landscape is changing but I wonder if one of the many reasons people find CLOY very refreshing is because of how different RJH & YSR's characters are written - both on equal footing in terms of giving in the relationship, equal backgrounds (political power & money power), both equally smart, capable and sacrificial. It's not like one of them is better than the other but they're both so strong, likeable and endearing individually (which is amazing despite their past) And when they come together, they don't take away what each other already have, but they add on to each other in a healthy, mature way. I mean...i honestly hope someone can give me ANY reference of a k-drama with anything close to how these 2 characters are written - because I would genuinely like to check it out. But for now, I know of none yet. And to me personally, this is one big reason why CLOY works so well. So i hope CLOY will also be the precedent & trend-setter for future k-drama leads..cause man, we seriously need more strong women characters, less jerky-male leads and better examples of what a healthy relationship is like haha.

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1 hour ago, anney said:

*High 5* fellow LOTR fan!! Haven't watch GoT yet as I've no HBO haha. Talking about LOTR...remember when they swept the Academic Awards back then? It was nearly unheard of back then right for a fantasy genre to win Best Picture? Yet they did, along with many other awards! So who knows...as much as people may put a tight reign on their expectations for CLOY at Baeksang because it's a "rom-com"..never say never eh? I personally feel it's unjust to push aside a film/drama just because of its particular genre. A job well done is a job well done, regardless of the genre and I hope awarding bodies will start to look beyond the genre names.

 

WOW! You are a LOTR fan too? I was almost fanatical about it during the airing of the movies. Read the 3 huge books TWICE. Have 2 copies of it, cuz need to lend one copy to friends. And joined all the different forums and read LOTR fan experts dissection of every detail LOL! I love fantasy genre! Yes, LOTR really broke all the preconceive ideas and boxes set by award predictors. I am also hoping hard that CLOY can have that same impact at Baeksang and K-ent and beyond. Sometimes, a product need to make its fame outside of the country before it can be acknowledged back in its own homeland. Not that CLOY was not popular in SK,  but I do think it is even more popular and reviewed positively abroad in other regions.

 

1 hour ago, anney said:

On the topic about lead characters in k-dramas...has it been a long on-going trend/norm where the male leads are usually rich, proud, cold and domineering and the female leads are damsels in distress, the average girl next door, etc.. Wonder if that was a very common/typical characteristics for k-drama leads in the past decade? Maybe the landscape is changing but I wonder if one of the many reasons people find CLOY very refreshing is because of how different RJH & YSR's characters are written - both on equal footing in terms of giving in the relationship, equal backgrounds (political power & money power), both equally smart, capable and sacrificial. It's not like one of them is better than the other but they're both so strong, likeable and endearing individually (which is amazing despite their past) And when they come together, they don't take away what each other already have, but they add on to each other in a healthy, mature way. I mean...i honestly hope someone can give me ANY reference of a k-drama with anything close to how these 2 characters are written - because I would genuinely like to check it out. But for now, I know of none yet. And to me personally, this is one big reason why CLOY works so well. So i hope CLOY will also be the precedent & trend-setter for future k-drama leads..cause man, we seriously need more strong women characters, less jerky-male leads and better examples of what a healthy relationship is like haha.

 

I think that was a pretty standard Kdrama trope ML = rich heirs who are kinda a jerk, but usually have a troubled history that made them that way, meeting the FL who's poor and struggling. But that's probably more prevalent back in the early 2000s to 2010s. It's slowly shifting, with more balance between the FL and ML in terms of status and "power" of influence. And I do agree that CLOY's FL and ML is actually quite different, though they still have some similar tropes, like both are from rich or influential background ie the elites in society. Big difference is how YSR is an independent successful woman and RJH is not the jerk rich heir, but instead is quiet and stoic, and always treat YSR very a very gentlemanly way and protecting her, and proud of her achievements instead of being insecure about it. One reviewer pointed out that RJH is more like the usual Kdrama 2nd ML who's the nicer guy vs the ML, but never wins the girl. I found that so true!! I think we might be able to find this type of new era FL and ML in recent Kdramas RomCom, but I need to think more about it - can't think of one immediately, esp one with high profile like CLOY (maybe some other posters here may give some suggestions).

 

And also while I was googling about CLOY's success and impact in Japan, I found this VOGUE JAPAN article about how RJH is the post #MeToo era type of hero, which compliments the current modern independent and successful woman, as represented by YSR. That's why many career ladies in Japan has fallen for the RiRi love story and also fallen hard for Captain Ri, cuz that's the type of boyfriend/ life partner they are looking for to support them. I posted it at Binjin thread but somehow didn't post it here.

 

Here it is, with auto-translate in the spoiler. It's a very good read and makes a lot of sense why CLOY love story and the characters of RJH and YSR is so relatable to the modern woman.

 

https://www.vogue.co.jp/change/article/crash-landing-on-you

 

The post #MeToo era heroes portrayed by the Korean drama 'Love's Emergency Arrival'.

BY RENGE JIBU
April 14, 2020.

 

The Korean drama "Love's Crash Landing," currently on Netflix, has garnered enthusiastic support from independent women in particular, and is becoming a social phenomenon that transcends national borders. What is the "future" reflected in the storytelling that goes beyond the mere melodrama of men and women? Journalist Renge Jibe, who is an expert on gender issues, unravels this innovation.

 

The popularity of the Korean drama "Love's Crash Landing" continues, and it remains in the top 10 overall on Netflix seven weeks after its release and is in third place as of April 14, the date of writing. The main theme is the love that crosses the 38th degree line between North Korean officer Lee Jong-hyuk (Hyun Bin) and South Korean female businesswoman Yoon Seri (Song Yejen). Jong-hyuk is a powerful man whose father is the head of the General Political Bureau, and Seri is the daughter of a zaibatsu warlord. It is indeed a modern version of "Romeo and Juliet".

 

It has a wide range of support beyond traditional Hallyu fans, especially from women with specialized skills. Around me, executives, corporate managers, editors, reporters, translators, lawyers, and researchers in various fields have seen "Untimely Landing" and talked about its appeal.

 

The scene that many people say is "my favorite" is near the end of the fourth episode. When Seri is lost in a North Korean market, Jong-hyuk comes looking for her with an aromatic candle in one hand. A few days ago he couldn't tell an ordinary candle from an aromatic candle, he said, "This time it's a scented candle. Am I right? He asks Seri.

 

This isn't just a "heartwarming scene".

 

First of all, we get a glimpse of Jung Hyuk's stubborn and honest half-life, which we didn't know about the aroma candles. In addition, he has the integrity not to say anything trite like "I was looking for you". Above all, it is important to make sure that what you are holding in your hands matches what the other person wants. This is where Jung Hyuk's attitude towards Seri, which runs through the entire drama, is expressed. When she's in trouble, it's natural for you to act on it. Most importantly, her will is respected.

 

The antithesis to "toxic masculinity".

 

In a melodrama-like fashion, the two are repeatedly separated and reunited. At that point, Jung Hyuk asked Seri, "Are you injured? We often ask, "What do you think? Even if you are going through unimaginable hardships, you insist that it's nothing and that you'll be fine.

He looks like an old-fashioned man, but his words and actions are very modern and appropriate for the post-MeToo era. It shows in the extreme restraint with which their romance proceeds. You can tell by the second or third episode that they have feelings for each other, but the relationship doesn't seem to get any further; the way the two over-30 men and women ride their bikes and look at each other and divert their attention from each other is like middle school.

 

(REST OF TEXT IN HIDDEN SPOILER)

 

 


If you look carefully, you'll notice that the role of deepening their romantic relationship is primarily played by Seri. When Seri crosses the military border in a paragliding accident and ends up in North Korea, she runs into Jong-hyuk, who is patrolling the outpost. She says after a few minutes of first meeting. I like your face.

 

Afterwards, Seri asks to take a commemorative photo with him, and when Jung Hyuk offers his hand for a handshake as they part ways, he says, "Why don't you hug me for the last time? However, Jung Hyuk has a fiancé that his parents decided on, and he tries to draw a line between him and Seri.

 

Living in one of Seoul's most exclusive residential areas, Seri has made a name for herself as an entertainer and athlete. I'm used to being in love. Jung Hyuk, on the other hand, is raw and earnest and has no experience in love. Its bookshelves are lined with "dark and difficult books" from Seri's point of view.

 

While the military setting and his bold actions to protect Seri seem traditionally "masculine," Jung Hyuk is devoid of any so-called "toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity" refers to trying to hide emotions and weaknesses as "unmanly" while also acting violently against women. It's a concept that has been used in the fields of psychology and gender studies, but has also permeated the public.

 

What independent women want.

 

Far from being toxic, Jong Hyuk's words and actions are rather an antidote for Seri. For Seri, who has been traumatized by family relationships, his home-cooked meals and the company of others around the table are a form of mental rehabilitation. The scene where Seri, along with Jung Hyuk and his men in North Korea, deliciously eats burdock, ramen, shellfish, boiled eggs, grilled corn, fried tofu, etc. is impressive. In Seoul, I lived a life of "drinking only sauvignon blanc", but in North Korea, I'm drinking beer and shochu with everyone else in a delicious way.

 

The simple, happy-go-lucky meal scene in North Korea contrasts nicely with the scene of Seri not wearing chopsticks at all in front of a sumptuous meal at her parents' house in Seoul. A meal can be a delight because of the trust you have with those around you.

Jung Hyuk's kindness, which breaks her heart so that Seri can "eat well and sleep well," brings her heart to life and restores her trust in others. In addition, Jung Hyuk, who was initially aloof and expressionless, becomes concerned, mourns, and cries as his relationship with Seri progresses. Jung Hyuk himself regains the emotions he had been pushing away when he meets Seri, who expresses her feelings for him in a straightforward manner. It's a hope for the future.

 

The image of a man embodied in Jung Hyuk reflects the modern woman's wish that "my will be respected. Women who can live independently no longer need a man to "follow me". What the independent working women want now is rather like what Jung Hyuk says late in the story, on Seri's birthday.

 

It will be a happy day next year and the year after that and the year after that. Because that's what I think. Thank you for being born. Thank you for having a loved one in the world. So it should be a much happier birthday.

 

Despite being born into a wealthy family, Seri was unhappy because she felt that she was tormenting her beloved mother by being alive.... When Jung Hyuk said these words that affirmed the very existence that Seri needed the most, a big change was born in her.

 

The irreversible social change that visited Korea.

 

Why is such a heroic image being portrayed and supported now?

 

This reminds me of a story I heard last year from a male manager at a major Korean media outlet who I met at an international conference. He said, "The MeToo movement has fundamentally changed Korean society. There is no going back," he said. He spoke of the fact that one after another, men who had engaged in sexual violence against the backdrop of power or in exchange for favors, had left the political scene, saying, "We men have no choice but to accept this change in silence.

 

The heroic figure embodied by Lee Jong-hyuk can be said to be a modern-day prince who is a few steps ahead of the rapidly changing Korean society in terms of fantasy. Never ignore a woman's will to proceed with romantic behavior. She cherishes those near and dear to her and does not hide her grief or tears. They naturally embrace independent women with financial means and are quietly by their side.

By the way, the charm of this drama was that it carefully portrayed all the characters other than the two main characters. What I found particularly interesting was the "eavesdropper" mambok. He was portrayed as a symbol of North Korea's cruel political regime.

 

For 20 years, since the age of 17, Manbok has lived as the "ear" of the North Korean secret police, listening to conversations and other things through wiretaps planted in his house and car, and reporting them to the secret police. He is often called a "ear bastard" with a derogatory nickname, and his children are bullied. He has no freedom of choice in his occupation, and sometimes he is even forced to help take the lives of those closest to him.

 

The role he plays is so important that it can't be called a supporting role. It is Jung-hyuk's respect for Man-bok as a human being that leads him to make a brave decision near the climax. What is repeatedly portrayed in this drama in different forms is an important human love that transcends the differences between political systems. Many of them unfold throughout the house, in the living room, and at the dining table.

 

Now, in our normal lives, we are immersed in the news reports about the new coronavirus. Many businesses are closed, schools are closed, conferences and events have been cancelled or postponed. In the midst of anxious days, you can take a moment of solace by talking with a friend who is an untimely landing fan. After Corona is over, let's travel to Seoul," he said, encouraging the girls as he tapped away at his computer keyboard at home today.

 

During this extremely depressing time, between work at home and domestic labor, the drama "Love's Crash Landing" gave me hope like an aromatic candle in my heart. I, and my friends, would like to thank the performers and producers from the bottom of our hearts. It's because we were saved by the amazing content that came across the ocean as the virus spread across borders and unsettled the world.

 

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
 

 

 

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Another Japan news article about CLOY, dated 21 May'20

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/90c711f00f39c8101dc71a803ba1a019cdac2597

 

- CLOY has been Top 10 for 10 weeks in Netflix Japan, and #1 ranking for the last 3 weeks (based on info up to May 18th)

- says many celebrities are addicted to it, and have been talking about it on their social media account

- a TV program on Fuji TV gave a 15-min commentary of why CLOY is so popular and cited the overwhelming popularity of Hyun Bin, the realistic portrayal of North Korea, and increased subscription due to Coronavirus lockdown

 

Here's the article via online translator :

 

 

Nozomi Sasaki and Tetsuko Kuroyanagi also raved about it! 'Love's Crash Landing' is popular in Japan

 

Japanese celebrities are addicted to the drama "Love's Emergency Landing" (tvN). 

 

 Love's Unexpected Arrival, which brought down the curtain in February of this year with the highest ratings ever for any tvN drama, is gaining popularity in Japan, as Love's Unexpected Arrival, which was distributed exclusively in Japan through Netflix, has been on the TOP10 list for 10 consecutive weeks since it opened in February, and has been ranked #1 on Netflix's "Today's Overall TOP10 (Japan)" for three consecutive weeks (based on May 18) due to the emergency caused by the spread of the new coronavirus infection and the Golden Week's impact on viewers. 

 

 Japanese celebrities have confessed to watching it one after another, and it has spread by word of mouth. It's a good thing that she's not the only one who's had a lot of fun. It's a great way to get a better idea of what's going on in your life. I watched all the episodes of "Love's Blundering Landing" and "Itaewin Class" in one go," she wrote. exceeded 240,000.

 

 Saito Tsukasa of the comedy duo Trendy Angel is also known as a fan of Love's Crash Landing. Tsukasa Saito posted a video clip on his Instagram that parodied "Love's Landing" and received a lot of "likes". in the first half of the year. Tsukasa Saito touted his love for Hyun Bin with hashtags such as "#Love's untimely arrival # Hyun Bin # too manly # we have special training. 

 

 In addition, the information program "Joho Presenter Tokudane! On May 18, "Love's Wrong Landing" (Fuji Television Network) gave a 15-minute commentary on why "Love's Wrong Landing" is so popular. The show cited the overwhelming popularity of Hyun Bin, the realistic portrayal of North Korea, and the increasing number of subscribers to the video distribution service as they refrained from going out due to the spread of the new coronavirus infection. 

 

 Love's Crash" is a film about the absolutely top-secret romance between Yoon Seri (Song Ye Jin), a wealthy warlord who crash-lands in North Korea after a paragliding accident caused by a gust of wind, and Lee Jong Hyuk (Hyun Bin), a North Korean officer who falls in love with her while harboring her. 

 

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

 

 

 

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