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3 hours ago, imgreatgal said:

that is a possibility considering he defended parricide, he thinks its okay for a child to kill ones parent if the parent is abusive or negligent. BJ  manipulates the other students by using their weakness to control them. He was really scary in that last scene of ep12.  

 

I think BJ made someone commit the crimes by manipulating them 

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32 minutes ago, auberon said:

That last scene was damn frustrating. At least Tae Ra is doubting Beom Jin now.

 

Assemblyman is 100% the person who ordered to have Soo Ah and LTS killed but why is Beom Jin so intent on sweeping things under the rug? It seems like he hates his father as well.

Gi has LGH and HTR on his side for now. Although the key person HS is currently on BJ’s side, hopefully Ha can reach out to him and gain him back. 

 

Could it it be that what BJ wants to do is to kill his father with his own hands? :scream: I just can’t forget his argument about parricide. 

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35 minutes ago, auberon said:

That last scene was damn frustrating. At least Tae Ra is doubting Beom Jin now.

Tae Ra is just dumb, she knows that BJ was missing from his seat for sometime when they were at the movies but she played dumb. She continued to play dumb after she tested him when they were watching the movie a second time.  i think all of them are dumb except Ye Ri and Ki Hoon.  Lee Do Jin is suspicious he suddenly calls MH after all those articles came out in the news. He wants to stop MH by threatening to bar MH's licence.  

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All of the seeds have been planted and we now know that BJ is a sociopath who has brainwashed all of his classmates by appearing to be untouchable. Everyone talks about him like they are under some sort of Jedi mind trick. But more importantly, how does BJ know everything? How did he know that JJ had loan sharks after his family? How did he know that Bundle needed reassuring about coming back to school? How did he know to get JJ to threaten JE to setup MH because of the missing camera? How did he know that HS had woken up? A big part of his influence is due to the fact that he KNOWS EVERYTHING! Then, everyone just blindly listens to him and follows him, and these kids are loyal to him. Why? Even when TR's record got exposed online, the first thing her mother told her was to go back to school and stick close to BJ. What the hell is going on here? 

 

I am not surprised that he got to HS because HS proved that he isn't very smart already. HS is living in a fantasy world about SA and their time together at the orphanage. He doesn't want to believe that she fell into prostitution and escorting, but his new friend is covering up that she was in fact involved with his father. At this point HM needs to pull back. BJ already set it up for him to be removed from the school for not actually being a teacher and pretending to be someone else. Right now, everything is going BJ's way because he has given this a lot of thought and is on offense. Everyone else is on defense and the game is getting away. I think HM needs to focus on the assemblyman and not the kids because they are a by-product of what is happening with their parents.

 

HM needs to figure out how everyone is intertwined and retrieve evidence. Clearly the assemblymen is behind SA and LT's deaths, but how does CEO Yoon factor in? TR's mother? Deputy Yang? Is there another person involved that we haven't seen yet? Focusing on just one person and catching a killer is the wrong way about this. You have to take down the entire circle. Another reason BJ is untouchable is because of who his father is. However, at the end of the day, he is still a child. Thus, focus on the big fish and cast a wide net because this is a big catch!

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After finishing episode 12, seems that BJ was near SA's flat. Did he kill her or pushed someone to do it? I still tend to think he manipulated one of the students to do it. He is the kind of person who doesn't want to do the dirty work by himself but press others to do it. My suspicion goes back to HS. I think he may have killed SA after all, with the hypnotic effect of BJ, who was there too. He mighr have told him that SA wants to escape from her miserable life and so death is the best for her. Or still, it maybe another student manipulated by BJ. I am imagining him standing in SA's flat hypnotizing some student to kill SA.

 

Also seems the assembly man hired someone to kill Lee Tae Seok and hit the prosecutor. Also he ordered the policeman to kill HS. But why? Does the assembly man know who killed SA?? He doesn't want HS to testify.

 

What does BJ intend to do next? Some of you predict he will tell HS to kill his father

 

I am glad that the mysteries are not solved yet, guess we have to wait till episode 16, as usual in mini-series 

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3 hours ago, nubianlegalmind said:

All of the seeds have been planted and we now know that BJ is a sociopath who has brainwashed all of his classmates by appearing to be untouchable. Everyone talks about him like they are under some sort of Jedi mind trick. But more importantly, how does BJ know everything? How did he know that JJ had loan sharks after his family? How did he know that Bundle needed reassuring about coming back to school? How did he know to get JJ to threaten JE to setup MH because of the missing camera? How did he know that HS had woken up? A big part of his influence is due to the fact that he KNOWS EVERYTHING! Then, everyone just blindly listens to him and follows him, and these kids are loyal to him. Why? Even when TR's record got exposed online, the first thing her mother told her was to go back to school and stick close to BJ. What the hell is going on here? 

We've been trying to analyse BJ because he is the centre of what been happening at the school. He spies on his dad's phone so I will not be surprised if he spies on the other kids too. BJ is the silent type lurking behind what everyone else is doing. He also seems to be in charge of the rooftop where JJ and his nasty buddies plays that rowdy game. To me BJ is like a mob boss who protects his underlings and we saw that when he went to save HS from Lieutenant Oh. I have a feeling that BJ is a victim of abuse by his father maybe not physically but mentally. He strives to be at the top but longs for appreciation and praise from his father which doesn't seem to be forthcoming. I also think this is what the other kids lack too. The parents were only concerned about their grades that they resort to bribing the teachers. Coming back to BJ, although he hates his dad he needs his power and money to keep doing what he's been doing all along 'protecting' the other kids. 

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8 hours ago, nohamahamoud2002 said:

BJ killed SA and Tae Ra too. But really this is too clear. I wanted  more mystery

Father and son are murderers only difference is BJ killed SA and Tae Ra with his own hands while YK had that bad cop killed LTS. 

I can't believe team MH is way behind BJ. Has he been spying on them?  BJ had someone harassed Tae Ra after MH was onto her about the cctv footage of BJ near SA's apartment. I bet now BJ will claim that TR committed suicide because of those threatening calls. and Why are they still keeping SA death a secret from HS? 

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30 minutes ago, imgreatgal said:

Father and son are murderers only difference is BJ killed SA and Tae Ra with his own hands while YK had that bad cop killed LTS. 

I can't believe team MH is way behind BJ. Has he been spying on them?  BJ had someone harassed Tae Ra after MH was onto her about the cctv footage of BJ near SA's apartment. I bet now BJ will claim that TR committed suicide because of those threatening calls. and Why are they still keeping SA death a secret from HS? 

 

The girl with headphones maybe spying  on the teacher . I am quite sure 

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47 minutes ago, imgreatgal said:

Father and son are murderers only difference is BJ killed SA and Tae Ra with his own hands while YK had that bad cop killed LTS. 

I can't believe team MH is way behind BJ. Has he been spying on them?  BJ had someone harassed Tae Ra after MH was onto her about the cctv footage of BJ near SA's apartment. I bet now BJ will claim that TR committed suicide because of those threatening calls. and Why are they still keeping SA death a secret from HS? 

They didn't keep it as a secret. It just when SA died, he was unconscious. Now he knows about it.

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4 hours ago, imgreatgal said:

BJ had someone harassed Tae Ra after MH was onto her about the cctv footage of BJ near SA's apartment. I bet now BJ will claim that TR committed suicide because of those threatening calls.

I don't think the harassment was ordered by BJ. It happened at the same time he found out Gi told HR about the cctv, and also when he found out TR knew the truth that he left the cinema for quite a bit of time. He probably got the idea to kill/silence her when she sent him the text saying she wants to die because of what's happening in school. The person instigating the phone calls harassment was that idol-wannabe waiting for her debut.

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Well always knew BJ doesn't care anyone but himself or his dad.  His argument could be his dad did so many horrible things he is just unsensitized about right/wrong and continue his dad's footsteps. I know it wont happen but hoping he doesn't get some teary redemption thing in the end because everything's calculated. 

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I haven't watched tonight's episode yet, but I can clearly see where this is going. I will go back to what I said last week, BJ knows too much. Why did TR have to tell him that she was aware that he left the theater for a while. As soon as she revealed that, I knew she was done. And how perfectly aligned is it that at the same time, YR chose to get people to call and harass her. So now BJ has the perfect alibi and motive for suicide. If those other students who called and harassed TR admit what they did and that they were coerced by little miss popstar, he will have even more help. If only she listened to HM, she may have lived.

 

One thing for sure, another death of a student at the school is not going to help. That is two students and a school administrator all in a couple of months? Her death is going to change the dynamic among the scheming adults. I got the impression that TR's mother was a major player in all of this. Now, she is going to be angry and desperate for some type of revenge. HM needs to shift his focus to the adults. 

 

As far as BJ being a psychopath, I believe that he had been a ticking time bomb his entire life. Living under the harsh scrutiny and high expectations of being the son of an assemblyman, and then things began to unravel when he started liking TR. However, I bet she outright rejected him, and when BJ found out LTS was pimping her, he tried to use that to get leverage and get her to like him. Then she dropped the bomb that she was involved with his father and he went crazy. We will see, but this all falls back on BJ and his relationship with his father.

 

The most infuriating character for me right now is Kim Han Soo. He wakes up and could easily be the key to the right person being convicted and instead he is keeping his mouth shut and following orders to protect SA, when in reality, there is a lot about her that he just doesn't know. Clearly he doesn't know that SA was involved with BJ's dad, otherwise he wouldn't be allowing him to manipulate him. As it stands, he has perjured himself again. Also, SA would want the world to know what happened to her. She would want justice, but instead, he is protecting some childhood image of her and it is so frustrating. 

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Currently we all know that BJ is somewhat of the mastermind...but seeing the last scene of ep 14, the portrait named ‘camouflage’...I wonder is there a deeper meaning that COL is trying to tell..right off the bat, I think is to indicate that BJ has been in hiding for so Long. Staying under camouflage under a fake persona. Thus there is the two woman in the portrait. And that GI is finally pulling away the facade that BJ have set up...

 

Still I cannot figure out what other meaning is there...

 

About Han Su..personal grudges..but I feel he is as bad as BJ himself. How he protected SA without knowing about the truth. About how Gi was pretty much brought to this stage because he wants to find the truth but Han Su doesn’t give. His stubbornness is what gave me the grudges. 

 

But at least in EP 14, he did wash his stubbornness away after allowing him to read the evidence..finally.

 

Gi is plotting against both sides on one another, this is going to be fun & dangerous..we will never know what BJ can do, now his facade have been ripped away...

 

I’m guessing he can jolly well kill off his Father at this stage.

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7 hours ago, nubianlegalmind said:

As far as BJ being a psychopath, I believe that he had been a ticking time bomb his entire life. Living under the harsh scrutiny and high expectations of being the son of an assemblyman, and then things began to unravel when he started liking TR. However, I bet she outright rejected him, and when BJ found out LTS was pimping her, he tried to use that to get leverage and get her to like him. Then she dropped the bomb that she was involved with his father and he went crazy. We will see, but this all falls back on BJ and his relationship with his father.

 

The most infuriating character for me right now is Kim Han Soo. He wakes up and could easily be the key to the right person being convicted and instead he is keeping his mouth shut and following orders to protect SA, when in reality, there is a lot about her that he just doesn't know. Clearly he doesn't know that SA was involved with BJ's dad, otherwise he wouldn't be allowing him to manipulate him. As it stands, he has perjured himself again. Also, SA would want the world to know what happened to her. She would want justice, but instead, he is protecting some childhood image of her and it is so frustrating

I agree with you about HS. I am still trying to tell myself okay, maybe he is just too kind and simple minded to hold on to that childhood image of SA. He uses everything else before using his brain, sorry to say. But yeah, my patience with him is running thin for sure. 

 

As for BJ, I never thought he ever fall for SA... He just didn’t want her around the school because she potentially is ableto tarnish his image. I know there was a flashback of TR witnessing them together, but it happened quite fast and I don’t remember what exactly were they doing. Kissing? 

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