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I like the theories being thrown out here and some philosophy as well. 

 

Putting on the spoiler for the respect who didn't watch the latest episode.

 

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For the first two episode of the week (21-22) Looks like they're giving us fluff since something is coming. As for Do Hwa I agree with some posters here, he's the biggest DanOh-Haru shipper. Dan Oh is still nice to Baek Hyung I think she can be a good friend to him but as a love/partner that won't work. As for Joo Da, looks like she's spunky and tired of all the writer's on what she's doing on stage. 

For the last part of the episode the acting is very top notch from KYH pleasing and enamored look to Rowoon's emotional realization and LJW hearbreak plus loneliness is really top notch. It's also nice to see DSF role in the "trumpet creeper" manhwa. Especially the dynamic between him and BaekKyung. Also Haru is really different in this manhwa as well.

 

For the second episode of the week (23-24) I liked the "Trumpet Creeper" parts. Especially it was revealed that Haru is the one who was aware of himself first. Also the DanOh was aware as herself as well. It's nice to see the parallels between the "Trumpet Creeper" and "Secret" manhwa. As for the stage, the effect I think just reset since it already started. Nice to see the 3 "Extra Musketeers" on action like they have a mission to do. Haru's dedication and love for Dan Oh is really a person who values (DanOh). I do have sympathy for Baek Kyung but it's up to him how would he proceed forward, but the looks of it still not good.  The ending part where they're hugging and saw something (Dan Oh on her death and on Haru side on how Dan Oh's life ended in "Trumpet Creeper"is really emotional and powerful performance for both KYH and Rowoon. 

 

Can't wait for the last 4 episodes.  I would remember this as one of my favorite k-drama for 2019 (with Sky Castle and Hotel De Luna).

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Hahahaha... these two cuties really. I wonder though why they would try to hide their feelings in front of Do Hwa. He is their biggest shipper. Plus Ha Ru asking Dan Oh if he needs to practice flirtin

It doesn't matter if the manhwa world is real or not. The characters are the ones who turn their world into reality.   In this drama it seems that on the one hand the real writer is using D

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So many great thoughts, theories and discussions. I don't know where to start. :D

 

I think I'll start with Baek Kyung. For me, I can barely relate to him. The cemetry scene was nice, yes, but that doesn't change his character or shows me any character development.

 

As @bebebisous33 pointed out: while Dan Oh took becoming aware as a chance to reflect on who she really is and how different she actually is from her stage character. Thank goodness, she realized how ridiculous a 10-year-one-sided crush is, especially when it's a boy who is only mean to her. Plus she was driven by the wish to change her setup as the terminally ill character. She simply wouldn't just live the same life after finding out that everything is just madeup for her character.

 

Meanwhile for Ha Ru, as he beautifully said, Dan Oh was his beginning. He somewhat ended up in "Secret" as a extra without any setup which can be seen as a curse but also as a blessing because he was able to experience the world without having to be on stage. And this is actually so much better than how he ended up being the 2nd male lead and Kyung's assassin in "Trumpet Creeper" in which he was bascially following Kyung without thinking or questioning. Until the writer decided to have Kyung approach Dan Oh in order to move his political plans; again Dan Oh was the beginning of Ha Ru's awareness. I think in "Secret" though, he somehow ended up there and then he saw Dan Oh and it all went from there, so it's a bit different. And since Ha Ru in "Secret" is different from the Ha Ru in "Trumpet Creeper", only slightly, it didn't matter that the writer took away his memories. In the end, he regained his memories because Dan Oh was always on his mind. And he would not remain loyal in the shadows either.

 

With Kyung, he became aware and I had high hopes for him to show me he can be different in the shadows. But that's not the case. Just because they show a glimpse of regret of what he is saying on stage to Dan Oh, doesn't change the fact that in each and every moment he is either talking to Dan Oh, to Ha Ru or to Jinmichae... he chooses to be a jerk. I think everything is about control. I get that the roots are in his setup with him losing his mother. He believes when things change and Ha Ru becomes more important as an extra than him, he will slowly lose even more. He wants control. Hence why he is telling everyone about their roles in the manhwa. But let's keep in mind, he is just an extra as well. So I always have this big question mark above my head when he tells Ha Ru is just a mere extra. Like Kyung, YOU'RE a mere extra as well. But anyways... I think if he would try to think about who he actually is, maybe the answer would be too horrifying. As long as Kyung can say the setups are who they are then he doesn't have to think about being a jerk, he doesn't have to feel guilty and he doesn't need to change. But instead he keeps talking about how Dan Oh belongs to him (ewwww) and how he wants to change the stage but he doesn't want to change Dan Oh's fate? Like @-Love Blossom- pointed out: does Kyung realize that Dan Oh could die eventually and then he will be left behind? I guess this is why I can't really relate to Kyung - like Lee Jae Wook is doing a brilliant job but Kyung is just NOPE.

 

I just wish Kyung would move on and focus on his task to investigate the "Trumpet Creeper" manhwa. I think this is where I like Kyung the most when he isn't focused on looking at Dan Oh like she is some kind of object.

 

As some of you mentioned in the end this manhwa is a romance novel, so a happy ending should be a sure a thing. But on the other hand when people meddle with the plot so much then it could maybe even end on a different note than what we expect.

 

I think we will get a happy ending though. And now I even understand why Ha Ru got to demonstrate on Sae Mi how he can change the stage by replacing Dan Oh. I think - as some mentioned - it could mean that Ha Ru will replace Dan Oh with someone else. But then again, just because he can replace one person with another doesn't mean he can erase the heart disease. After all it was not like Dan Oh was suddenly healthy. That would be too easy. But in one way or the other a happy ending it will be.

 

I love how Jinmichae keeps dissing the writer. Same goes for E3. It's giving me life. Plus some of the lines in "Trumpet Creeper" are just as cheesy as the ones in "Secret". No matter if the writer is writing it all and the cheesy lines intentionally, it's still cringy. :lol:

 

I guess I need to make a separate post about "Trumpet Creeper"... otherwise this wall of text gets longer.

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At the end of Extraordinary You, I'm hoping someone very skillful can come and edit all Trumpet Creeper scenes together and make a mini movie for us. #wishfullyhoping 

 

I would love to watch all those parts together. 

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Everytime Ha Ru calls Dan Oh "agasshi" I'm dying a small happy death... Plus Ha Ru is like butter melting in the sun and the sun is Dan Oh's smile. I swear... he is just longingly looking at her. Like I want to meet a Ha Ru, pretty please.:wub:

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@stargazer187 

 

Daydream (Junkilla)

 

 

Something about you is different
Found what the others were missing
Can’t believe I waited for this long
To feel something so strong

You got me spinning in circles now
I’m already giving up all my doubts
Cause if this is real then I want more

Your love is like a daydream
You keep me high in your fantasy
Ooh, Wide awake in my sleep
Don’t wake me, don’t wake me up
Your love is like a daydream
Captivating my reality
Oh, Close my eyes seeing things
Don’t wake me, don’t wake me up
Don’t wake me up
Don’t wake me up
Don’t wake me up
Your love is like a daydream

Minutes and hours I’m dreaming
And now I know you’re the reason
Everything hasn’t felt this right
For the longest time

You got me spinning in circles now
I’m already giving up all my doubts
Cause if this is real then I want more

Your love is like a daydream
You keep me high in your fantasy
Ooh, Wide awake in my sleep
Don’t wake me, don’t wake me up
Your love is like a daydream
Captivating my reality
Oh, Close my eyes seeing things
Don’t wake me, don’t wake me up
Don’t wake me up
Don’t wake me up
Don’t wake me up
Your love is like a daydream

 

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I think in the end this is still a comic book, so there are fantastical elements even in the Goryeo era. Just like there is always fiction in historical dramas as well. Plus they wanted to make clear that just like "Secret" appeared in the manhwa. So did "Trumpet Creeper" in the respective story. This is still a mystery we need to solve. :D Like is this really a glitch or the intention of the writer?

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I've noticed a couple things while watching and rewatching. First of all:

 

Is nobody suspicious that suddenly a new manhwa appears in the manhwa? The one Do Hwa has been reading. It's called 장미꽃을 그대에게 (A Rose for You). Do Hwa is reading it and is promoting it as something to learn how to flirt from.

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Now of course we could say that even in the world of "Secret" manhwas exist. But I would say if we really believe that things are still controlled by the writer I can't imagine it's a coincidence that Do Hwa aka the drama keeps showing us this specific one. Also, who do we know in this drama aka manhwa who doesn't need any lessons in flirting? Yes, it's Ha Ru. So could it be that:

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Since "Trumpet Creeper" ends on a sad note, so will "Secret" but just like in the webtoon Dan Oh and Ha Ru will meet in another manhwa as the leads (I think in the webtoon they're extras?) and have their happy ending there?

 

Of course:

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It could also hint towards Baek Kyung since he gave roses to Dan Oh. So he may end up in a new manhwa as well and finally get the girl (which hopefully isn't a 2nd  Dan Oh... that would be weird).

 

On the other hand, the manhwa only appeared in the shadows and never on stage. So it might be not relevant at all. And I might be overthinking. :D But "Trumpet Creeper" also only appears in the shadow.

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Why is there so much foreshadowing going on?

 

When Ha Ru woke up from the dream he was in the English lesson and the teacher said following sentence as an example:

 

"When I arrived there, the tragic stage had already finished."

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23 minutes ago, Jillia said:

Why is there so much foreshadowing going on?

 

When Ha Ru woke up from the dream he was in the English lesson and the teacher said following sentence as an example:

 

"When I arrived there, the tragic stage had already finished."

 

@Jillia

Yesss, I immediately thought of their sad scene in "Trumpet Creeper". 

 

My assumptions here, but Haru is staged/ordered? to kill? Dan Oh. And before he can stop himself, the tragic actions of killing Dan Oh had already been done. And it was probably too late when he was able to move to stop himself, hence the cut on his hand. 

 

Although, I want to think of other theories and not poor Haru as the one who killed Dan Oh.  T.T

 

Also thanks for fixing the Instagram Link. Total noob here. Lol

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I actually think we're supposed to believe it's Ha Ru who kills Dan Oh but in the preview the sword we see isn't Ha Ru's sword. It could be Kyung's.

 

Here some screenshots...

 

Ha Ru's sword:

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The sword we see in the dream/preview:

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I think since we now learn a lot of about changing the stage by adding/removing things in the shadow, maybe something like this happened in "Trumpet Creeper". Plus Jinmichae told Kyung it was something HE did, not Ha Ru. So... maybe Kyung found out about the love between Dan Oh and Ha Ru and is ambushing them but something goes wrong and Dan Oh dies. At Ha Ru's hand or maybe someone else's hand.

 

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32 minutes ago, Jillia said:

@egv

I actually think we're supposed to believe it's Ha Ru who kills Dan Oh but in the preview the sword we see isn't Ha Ru's sword. It could be Kyung's.

 

Here some screenshots...

 

Ha Ru's sword:

 

The sword we see in the dream/preview:

 

I think since we now learn a lot of about changing the stage by adding/removing things in the shadow, maybe something like this happened in "Trumpet Creeper". Plus Jinmichae told Kyung it was something HE did, not Ha Ru. So... maybe Kyung found out about the love between Dan Oh and Ha Ru and is ambushing them but something goes wrong and Dan Oh dies. At Ha Ru's hand or maybe someone else's hand.

 

I was thinking maybe Kyung incites a fight to the death with Haru, and Dan Oh, because Stage dictates that she loves Kyung, throws herself between them to save Kyung from Haru's killing blow.  She dies for a love she never had, at the hands of her lover, who tries to literally pull the sword back with his other hand.

 

Man, Haru's remorse but also bitterness towards the writer would know no bounds.

 

 

2 hours ago, Jillia said:

I've noticed a couple things while watching and rewatching. First of all:

 

Is nobody suspicious that suddenly a new manhwa appears in the manhwa? The one Do Hwa has been reading. It's called 장미꽃을 그대에게 (A Rose for You). Do Hwa is reading it and is promoting it as something to learn how to flirt from.

 

Now of course we could say that even in the world of "Secret" manhwas exist. But I would say if we really believe that things are still controlled by the writer I can't imagine it's a coincidence that Do Hwa aka the drama keeps showing us this specific one. Also, who do we know in this drama aka manhwa who doesn't need any lessons in flirting? Yes, it's Ha Ru. So could it be that:

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Since "Trumpet Creeper" ends on a sad note, so will "Secret" but just like in the webtoon Dan Oh and Ha Ru will meet in another manhwa as the leads (I think in the webtoon they're extras?) and have their happy ending there?

 

Of course:

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It could also hint towards Baek Kyung since he gave roses to Dan Oh. So he may end up in a new manhwa as well and finally get the girl (which hopefully isn't a 2nd  Dan Oh... that would be weird).

 

On the other hand, the manhwa only appeared in the shadows and never on stage. So it might be not relevant at all. And I might be overthinking. :D But "Trumpet Creeper" also only appears in the shadow.

What a saccharine sweet cover. I wouldn't be caught dead reading it.  Thank goodness Dohwa's reading it for dating advice not pleasure.  Just goes to show if all Haru and Dan Oh get is a happ y ending, it wouldn't be much of a story.  Put them out to pasture.

 

But covers can be deceiving.  The title reminded me most of Flowers for Algernon and A Rose For Emily, both very disturbing stories.  The first might have a vague tie in with the protagonist first 'awaking' then sleeping again. 

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Hold still my heart! The only thing Haru fears is a world that doesn’t have Eun Dan Oh in it while his own existence is of no consequence to him. The love he feels for her is so selfless and unconditional while Baek Young always makes everything about himself. Even he is shook by Haru’s declaration and it almost appearss as if, deep down, BY wanted to be like Haru but some inherent part of him prevented him.

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It really makes such a perfect, yet heartbreaking sense why Haru is so ready to make himself out of the equation for Dan Oh’s sake - be it in the previous manhwa or now, he never had anything; no family, no friends, no home. It’s therefore only natural that she would become the center of his universe. 

 

When Haru stands up to Baek Young, it’s such an epic moments because while previously he was always defending only Dan Oh, now, he is actually standing up for himself. He basically declares that he isn’t the writer’s puppet, not matter how much some people want him to be or push him into that role. IT WASN’T THE WRITER WHO GAVE HIS LIFE A REASON, IT WAS DAN OH. IT WASN’T THE WRITER WHO MADE HIM LOVE DAN OH, IT WAS HIS CHOICE. His alone and no one else’s, be it in the previous webtoon, or now.

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The conviction with which Haru is ready to give up his own existence to protect Dan OH might seem shocking until you realize that he can’t live in a world without her. She gives his life a meaning so when he’s protecting her, he is also fighting for his right to live.

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Okay, I was celebrating this moment. Because it was about time Joo Da said something and that she is able to do so. Also: Sae Mi, you need to stop being a bully. This wasn't even a stage and she is still part of it. Like I adore Sae Mi but I don't like the bully Sae Mi.

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I think HR killed DO but it was not deliberate and he grabbed the sword with his left hand to stop it but it was too late. But the scene doesn’t look like a sword fight. It starts off with guards surrounding figures kneeling? DO’s father is supposed to take BK’s side in his desire for power. It could well be that he refused? And BK decides to kill him? HR does the killing for him so as he steps forward to kill DO’s father, DO steps in and dies in his stead.

 

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So I think what’s happened is that just as in Secret, DO and HR fall in love in TF. As they attempt to change the stage, the wedding between Kyung and DO is called off (just like the most recent stage scene in Secret with the proposal). The marriage alliance falls flat. Kyung no longer has the allegiance of DO’s father (which was why he insisted on marrying DO in the first place) so he chooses to kill him just like he did the other official who refused to take his side. This chain of events therefore leads to DO sacrificing herself to save her father. Had the wedding moved forward, this tragic end would not have eventuated..

 

That’s why JMC is so adamant that the stage isn’t changed in Secret.  DO is meant to stay by BK’s side.  If she stays, she lives.  If she doesn’t, she dies.

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Definitely a interesting theory. Just one thing... the people in this still are more like this. Thankfully they showed us the clothing of each and everyone pretty well in the past scenes. :D The guy next to Kyung's brother is most likely their father.

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Something that is funny here. Dunno whether you feel the same way or not. But you all must notice it too. It's a manhwa where they set to live in an monarch age. I know that Joseon is the nation after silla and Goryeo ended right? So Joseon is much modern than the two. And they're not in Joseon, much more like in Goryeo. So how could they blatantly show that super sophisticatedly colorful printed-manhwa in that time? Isn't it supposed to be something like a sketch book, LOL. And how in the world that the writer's book reaches onto its characters' hands. Well.. well... just for laugh, I don't mean to be serious with it. Other parts are well done tho.

 

I noticed that too instead of being amazed by that kind of book with that kind of ink, picture, and paper, they are more shocked by the fact that they are manhwa character. :lol: Did word manhwa or manhwa book even exist in that era? I thought they used to only have novel with no pictures.

 

From the beginning there are a lot of questionable things i found while watching this drama. Another one i found after watching ep 12 is how can the proposal stage happens normally with BK video when DH clearly has substituted the flash drive and take the initial fd BK give. Only after HR directly interferes the stage can the stage change and the other video from the other fd is played. The sequence just does't make sense to me. But then i decided to just enjoy the show. So far for me EY is good enough even with its flaws, it just needs to wrap up well with the remaining 4 episodes and this will be one of my favorite dramas of the year.  

 

Just like we are deceived by last week preview into believing that JMC back story with the girl would be revealed this week, i think DO surgery will happen in the final week.

 

I love all the discussion, thoughts and insights on this thread, keep it going good people.

 

I want to post this compilation of DO hitting HR. It's funny how the video ends with HR pulling out his sword to DO and the caption for that post means is this the reason DO was killed in the past

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