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[Drama 2019] Extraordinary You / Suddenly One Day, 어쩌다 발견한 하루 - 2019 MBC Drama of the Year


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Hahahaha... these two cuties really. I wonder though why they would try to hide their feelings in front of Do Hwa. He is their biggest shipper. Plus Ha Ru asking Dan Oh if he needs to practice flirtin

It doesn't matter if the manhwa world is real or not. The characters are the ones who turn their world into reality.   In this drama it seems that on the one hand the real writer is using D

I think HR killed DO but it was not deliberate and he grabbed the sword with his left hand to stop it but it was too late. But the scene doesn’t look like a sword fight. It starts off with guards surr

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Really enjoying the Juda and Dohwa scenes sooooo much! 

 

I am also so glad that both supposed 2nd leads Haru and Dowah are getting the affections of the ladies. It's really a gem that our 2nd leads are shining!

 

Made me feel relatable in a drama context whereby in script the actresses are supposed to to act and like the bad boy main character, but in reality when it's behind the scenes that it's the kind hearted and honest 2nd leads who actually stole their hearts. 

 

Really feel sad for Baek Kyung though, it is already in his character set-up that he is defensive and an introvert. He had so many opportunities once he became self aware to fix things with Danoh, let her know his true feelings. But I guess having that set-up with the scarred memories of his mum's death and how terrible his dad is, he can't suddenly change and be a romantic character.

 

And worse is he is up against the forever honest and expressive Haru. Holding Danoh's hands cause he wants to, and hugging her cause he misses her so much. He never denied any relationship with Danoh to Dohwa and Danoh's friends, always clearly expressing how much he likes Danoh and wants to be with her.. If it were me, I'll choose Haru too.

 

 

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Does everyone intentionally stay away from the drama to binge watch it when the drama is finished so they can get to the happy ending without having to wait in agony through the final 2 weeks? :D I can understand.

 

I decided to just patiently wait for next week without analyzing or predicting the upcoming episodes too much. For now let me just spazz about Hye Yoon. I like flower DO when she confronted HR after following her all day. Her tone and voice there is fierce. This just proves that she can be fierce when it's needed. And her facial expression during the comical scene is soo.. priceless (i cant find the right word for it). I always repeat her scenes with HR and DH and also when she get caught in the act with HR just to enjoy her fun on point expression.

 

Isn't it cute that SM

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starts to feel her heart beats fast because of SC in the shadow? SM ya it's time to find your own happiness!

 

And yes i agree that in real life most people won't be able to bear bad boy and aim for a long term relationship.

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@bee_wannabe

Personally I'm definitely not going to skip until the drama is over. But I can rarely watch the episodes live since I'm in a different timezone and I have to work. So I only get to watch the new episodes a day after it aired.

 

I think it's nice they showed that Dan Oh is still the fierce female character from the beginning. A lot of people were complaining that she was suddenly so focused on Ha Ru. But it was the other way around as well. In the end this is still a romance drama, plus Dan Oh (and Ha Ru as well) is experiencing love for the first time. Of course she would want to relish the feelings for and the moments with Ha Ru. :D

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The drama in a nutshell:

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I just imagine how the drama writer was like "Let's make one scene that describes Kyung's and Ha Ru's relationship best." 

 

Everyone in the writer's room: Well... we'll have that Ghost tribute/parody scene.

 

Drama Writer: Genius.

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Is it too much to ask I want a drama in which we can have Dan Oh, Ha Ru and Do Hwa interact like 24/7? I would watch that kind of drama... heck give me 20 episodes of uri E3! On another note: I love the comedic moment here with Ha Ru being jealous of Do Hwa. But the jealousy is very gentle because he knows he doesn't have a rival in Do Hwa because they're all friends. But yet Ha Ru is still a young man who naturally gets jealous but instead of becoming loud or violent, he gently removes Do Hwa's hand. :lol: 

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12 hours ago, Jillia said:

@renjunnie

I've been thinking about it since the beginning:
 

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We all think it's about the characters being aware or not aware. And changing their fates or not. But I was thinking from the beginning what if everything we see is actually part of the manhwa, of the plot itself?

 

What if the writer is actually writing Dan Oh AND Ha Ru (as the leads) the way we see them? Maybe the writer isn't so dumb after all. lol

 

 

Well, i mo of course, the writer is writing it.  More interesting to me is there only one writer?  I think it would be fun if we had a bickering husband/wife writer/illustrator team (Haru and Dan Oh) and cranky editor Kyung trying to bring this manwha to a conclusion but unable to resolve the tensions of comedy/tragedy or Stage/Shadow.

 

Does it strike anyone else as odd that we have a supporting extra character with a terminal illness in a teenage rom com?

 

i mean, comedy in the old sense of the word means happy ending in a nutshell and what's happy about Dan Oh sick, dying and in love with a boy who, at least in Stage, treats her like dirt?

 

In a rom com, that set up would normally only be there for her to get well and the boy to discover he really does love he r and redeem himself.  Is her operation supposed to be a success in Stage Secret?

 

And is Shadow where the tragedy Trumpet Flower keeps trying to play out again, where Dan Oh dies, and likely other characters too?  Are Kyung's brother and Squid Fairy telling them to leave things as they are, Secret IS the happy ending book none of them got in Trumpet Flower?

 

Dan Oh appears to have made her choice for self-awareness and Haru but what if she, or he, finds out that she can live, but only if they live out the status quo of the stage?  Wha t will they do?

 

It's an interesting conumdrum mirroring eating of the Tree of Knowledge: you get self-awareness, sex/love, and ethics, but you lose paradise, innocence (ignorance), and immortality.  

 

I think this might be the ultimate choice/conflict.

 

 

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BK in both manhwas had a tragic past where he lost his mother. And this is where the conscious BK should have realized that his own past (the loss of his mother) was a set-up. The moment he got aware of his true situation, he should have realized that he should forget his "past and trauma". From my point of view, this is why he hasn't changed his behavior that much after his discovery. He still perceives the manhwa's world as a real world that's why he is unable to distinguish what is fake and real and he also thought that he, as a second lead, had more value than HR who is just an extra. As a result, BK is not able to reveal his true feelings to DO. Besides, he still has the impression, he deserves DO as he is a second lead. DO is different because as soon as she realized her true condition, she knew how to differentiate what were her true feelings and thoughts.

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But these characters have never seen what the real world is. So they only know to inhabit that world. How do you know what's outside the universe when actually they even don't know what's  actually inside the universe. So can a self aware character transcend into the mortal world?

 

 

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On a lighter note I really wish Shin Saemi get awareness and figure out why her heart is beating irregular when she stare at Ahn Soochul in pottery class!!

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4 minutes ago, angelbeast90 said:

So can a self aware character transcend into the mortal world?


Would they want to though?  They may think it’s Paradise but the reality is far from that?  When would you see a beautiful school like that?  They never seem to study?  No one has pimples?  :lol:  With freedom comes the heavy weight of responsibilities.  Think of how you longed to finish school and start work and move away from the clutches of your parents?  What happened?  The grass always looks greener.  And the “freedom” that you pictured was nothing more than an illusion.

 

Tree of knowledge of good and evil.  With knowledge comes responsibility.  Like @brielover said, if you gain awareness there’s a price to pay and it often comes with things that you never bargained for.  That’s why Squid said he would rather be a character who wasn’t aware “for once”, it would be so much simpler and less “painful”.

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@nrllee Hi there. Not so stranger!:)

What you said reminded me of Shin Saemi again lol! She said she wanted to live in this manhwa when Danoh pointed out that it was a manhwa world they live in.

 

All I wonder now is will they ever pass through that portal thingy. I wonder if a third story will arrive which will be futuristic! lol

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1 hour ago, angelbeast90 said:

But these characters have never seen what the real world is. So they only know only to inhabit that world. How do you know what's outside the universe when actually they even don't know what's  actually inside the universe. So can a self aware character transcend into the mortal world?

It doesn't matter if the manhwa world is real or not. The characters are the ones who turn their world into reality.

 

In this drama it seems that on the one hand the real writer is using Descartes' philosophy: "cogito ergo sum" which means "I think therefore I am". Consciousness is perceived as a way to define the human being. What caught my attention is that HR started in Trumpet Creeper hearing the page turning the moment he started having his own thoughts and feelings. He was starting feeling something for DO and the moment he disagreed with BK's approach, the pages started changing very quickly. So it happened the same way with DO who also felt that she couldn't love BK and saw her one sided crush as ridiculous.

 

On the other hand, the real writer is using Sartre's philosophy as well. A human is defined by his actions. As Sartre put it: "At first the human is nothing. Only afterward (doing things) will he be something, and he himself will have made what he will be." People will judge you based on your actions and not your thoughts and words therefore we have this scene where BK is criticized for his rude behavior. For the first time, BK is confronted with reality: he is a "jerk" not because of the stage... 

With this, the drama writer intends to make the viewers question about the true personality. BK might have his own thoughts now (has gained consciousness) but he hasn't started acting really differently. He is still rude to HR and DO. He still hopes, DO will come back to him as he is the second lead. The more he sees DO and HR repeating the words from the former manhwa, he is more convinced that their words come from the writer. This can lead him to even question their love for each other too. Besides, he gets hurt, when he heard DO saying the exact same thing from Trumpet creeper, the only difference was that back then her words were addressed to him.

He might be conscious of his own world, yet he was still relying on the writer so far: he is a second lead hence he has more rights over DO than HR. How can an extra change the scene? That's why he told DO in the past, he would be able to change the scene.

Furthermore, he met DO earlier and she has been his childhood friend for so long. BK was right to question if his memories were true or fake. However, back then DO had no conscious about herself, hence I am suspecting that his past (including the loss of his mother) shouldn't be perceived as real, rather as a set-up, as long as he and the others were not aware. Yet, when he heard HR saying that he might have known DO much longer than they are aware of, BK was hurt because with this, HR could be seen as someone who has more rights now.  BK saw his childhood memories as a point to say that he had more rights over DO than HR so far.

 

I have the impression that his step-brother is similar to BK in that matter. He doesn't intervene because he relies on the writer. Since he knows that BK is the second lead, his brother advised him to trust the writer.  The stepbrother told BK that the latter will get a happy ending. BK has realized his own feelings for DO, yet he is unable to change his action.

 

Then we have DO who is also questioning BK's actions. He was nice to her for a while: was it real or fake? BK was somehow genuine with her, yet his actions were not selfless and that's the problem in my opinion. Love has to be selfless in my view. BK loves her  because he wants to have someone for himself, he doesn't want to be alone and feel lonely. In other words, his love is not that deep compared to HR's love for DO. 

 

To me, BK has not entirely found himself. The discovery of the other manhwa confused him in my opinion. Was Secret a repetition of Trumpet Creeper or not? In this case are the characters really free? Or are their words the results of the writer?  

 

I would like to point out that in the other story, BK had staged his encounters with DO and had manipulated her and her feelings. So her words were only the results of his manipulative actions. Her love for him was artificial but by using HR, BK didn't realize that his minion had fallen in love with DO for real. So her words (thanking him for making her wish come true) should have been addressed to Haru and not BK back then. So we had a stage in a stage scene meaning that it was fake... And now, it feels like the final scene in the episode 11 is real. 

 

HR is so different from BK as after realizing his true feelings and had his own thoughts, he decided to cut ties with BK. That's why HR is right by telling DO, she was his beginning. In Trumpet Creeper, HR acted as an object always following BK's orders blindly. His love for DO marks the turning point in his life: he becomes a human and strangely, he decides to act on his own, trying to change the scenes... 

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I am having trouble understanding Baek Kyung's character. He is showing care for Dan Oh and on the other hand getting angry at Haru who wants to change the stage to save Dan Oh's life. Is his jealousy more important than the life of the person he likes? He is always talking about how he wants to change the story to make Dan Oh like him but not once he said anything about changing her terminal illness set up. Hey Baek Kyung you know right that a dead person cannot love you. Though from the preview it seemed like he will work together with Haru to change Dan Oh's story. Well better late than never. Still last two episodes was very frustrating to watch.

 

After "Secret" ends can the writer please make DanHaru leads or secondary leads in his/her next work or all future works which is even better. He won't have to worry about his story changing :D We still have 4 episodes left so we might see the surgery next episode and aftermath of the  surgery on episode 14. They will still have two episodes to show everything properly. I don't want our couple to meet in another manwha and just smile at each other. There is no way I'd be satisfied with it and I don't want think anyone else will be too. Greedy viewers B)

 

@nrllee Above all they will have problem with their identity. Nobody will know them. They wouldn't have house and money. Their qualifications will be of no use. They will just be poor and strange people :lol:

 

But wouldn't it be better if self aware characters actually come into the real world. They will no longer be controlled by anyone and can live their life the way they want. Haru-Danoh and Dowha-Jooda can also like each as much as they want :wub:

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i think by what haru meant in changing dan ohs stage so she doesnt have to die is by sacrificing himself in place of dan oh, just like what kyung said that every changed stage needs a stand-in who could fill in for the role that is supposed to be played :( but then again in whatever universe they are in the writer keeps killing dan oh, does the writer hate dan oh that much? (also saeguk haru seems to be the one who ends dan ohs life hence why jinmichae says its a tragedy and dan oh is someone he can never protect) 

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23 minutes ago, nimon said:

i think by what haru meant in changing dan ohs stage so she doesnt have to die is by sacrificing himself in place of dan oh, just like what kyung said that every changed stage needs a stand-in who could fill in for the role that is supposed to be played :( but then again in whatever universe they are in the writer keeps killing dan oh, does the writer hate dan oh that much? (also saeguk haru seems to be the one who ends dan ohs life hence why jinmichae says its a tragedy and dan oh is someone he can never protect)

I  think the writer didn't want to kill Dan Oh in Flower. He might have wanted Kyung to use Dan Oh and than gradually fall for Dan Oh type of story. But Haru interfered and that's why the writer had to change the story and kill Dan Oh. Maybe that's why Jinmichae doesn't want to Haru to change anything this time. Like @brielover said it's a school romance manwha and maybe Dan Oh will live in the end.

 

If Haru sacrifices himself to save Dan Oh and then reappears again like last time would he forget Dan Oh again and lose self awareness? Don't want such mess in the end 

 

The drama will surely have happy ending after all it's teen romance drama and they never said it's going to tragic or sad when promoting it. I am still feeling anxious about the ending as Kdramas have a habit of ruining their dramas with terrible ending.

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Actually, I have the impression that as long as JiMinchae and BK don't change anything, there will be a tragedy, as in reality, the tragedy happened because of their indifference or their selfishness. In the last episode, JiMinchae blamed BK for his misery saying that BK had changed something so that he ended up losing everything. And this admission is important as it proves that JMC is more afraid of any change than anything else. He believes that his fate is predetermined and can not be changed. That way, he won't lose anything and won't get hurt. 

 

From the beginning, our cook confided to DO that she wouldn't be able to change anything. In other words, he was pointing out her powerlessness and her inability. He denied that as a character, DO had the strength to change the script. Later, our "cook" advised DO not to change anything which illustrates that he had actually lied to her. He warned her that by changing the stage, she or someone else could end up paying for the change. This new point represents a contradiction to his previous statement.

 

Furthermore, he blamed HR for being responsible for the future misery... Consequently we can observe that JMC is blaming HR and BK for the tragedy and his misery. I don't have the impression that JMC really cares for DO. He knows her fate and accepts it as such because this doesn't concern him at all.

 

I have the impression that JMC might have even switched his place with NMJ in order to escape from his fate. He might have believed that if he was no longer the son of that powerful group, then he wouldn't need to fight and he wouldn't experience any pain and loss. NMJ's mother mentioned the word "secret" to her son twice and this is no coincidence. But the writer let the new student appearing and she is linked to JMC's tragedy in Trumpet Creeper. In other words, even by switching his place, JMC will meet his fated loved one. He can not escape.    

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