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[Drama 2019] Extraordinary You / Suddenly One Day, 어쩌다 발견한 하루 - 2019 MBC Drama of the Year


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It doesn't matter if the manhwa world is real or not. The characters are the ones who turn their world into reality.   In this drama it seems that on the one hand the real writer is using D

I think HR killed DO but it was not deliberate and he grabbed the sword with his left hand to stop it but it was too late. But the scene doesn’t look like a sword fight. It starts off with guards surr

I wonder if BK way of not letting DO goes is a reason for how things gonna spiral out of control beside having more characters being self aware. Maybe him letting her go and accepting that she loves Haru is gonna somewhat sett her free? maybe that is why he is the one that change her fate? just some wild theory here. 

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1 minute ago, Dundee said:

Sometimes i can’t stand DO’s character on the stage LOL, i mean talking to BK that she wanted to get married and all :sweatingbullets:

I always like Dan oh even onstage because I’m very conscious of the fact that she is being forced by the writer to act like an airhead onstage. Before her awakening I was amazed at her ability to embarrass herself and endure the embarrassment dished out to her in front of all her classmates. The important thing to remember is that the “real” Danoh has no desire to say or do most of the things the writer forces her to do. 

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6 minutes ago, Jillia said:

I think so as well. I think in the end it would be pure evil if the "Secret" manhwa would end like the "Trumpet Creeper" manhwa. So I think in the end Kyung needs to make change in the way he acts because it's simple: it's Dan Oh and Ha Ru in the past, in the present and the future.:)

 

Great someone other think like that.  would be a great message about One sided love and also obsessive love. in the end you need to let the other person go. Not just for the other person but also for yourself and your wellbeing. 

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53 minutes ago, Jillia said:

Eeeek... I'm watching the episode right now and I'm crying a little because Dan Oh is so afraid that Ha Ru might disappear again and lose his memory again.38.gif

 

I just saw that English Subtitles episodes are released.  Going out to watch now.  Be back once I have viewed today's episodes.

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55 minutes ago, Jillia said:

Eeeek... I'm watching the episode right now and I'm crying a little because Dan Oh is so afraid that Ha Ru might disappear again and lose his memory again.38.gif

It’s a valid fear especially since they don’t know for sure why he disappeared in the first place. Jinmichae implied that it’s her actions to change the storyline that caused Haru to disappear but then he reappeared again and eventually remembered her. So she must be wondering what can they do and what can’t they do to prevent a repeat of Haru’s disappearance. Maybe the answer is not to meddle with the official storyline but that also means she cannot change her fate. Actually, I don’t see how anyone but the writer can change her fate. That’s why the webtoon ending that I read about makes sense to me. It was sort of a compromise 

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with Haru being there to smile for her as she passed away. Then she gets her new story and happy ending with Haru in a new manhwa story.

 

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OK, may I say that episode 17 was the most amazing episode.  All those swoon worthy moments between DO & HR were worth all the angst and pain in episodes 15 & 16.  They are adorable together.  Not that they weren't before but it is definitely different.  They are both aware of their attraction for each other now and not fighting it one bit.  :love:

 

Dan-Oh in particular is being very touchy feely with Ha-Ru.  Sometimes their faces are so close together that they should have just gone ahead and kissed.  :kiss_wink:

 

Ok, off to view episode 18.

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4 minutes ago, elsanna said:

Why does it feel like...they have shared same fate before trumpet creeper also:crazy: I am confused like hell after watching ep 18

 

@elsanna I am getting a similar vibe.  It is almost as though the writer has recycled the comic multiple times.  I wonder if the issue is that some characters become self aware in everyone of the comics and mess with the final outcome of the stage and then the writer writes the same comic with some slight variations in order to appease the self aware characters and reach the ending the writer wants.  This is definitely different than your typical school drama and it is probably why I am enjoying to so much. 

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Btw suddenly the cutie dohwa became cool and more handsome in my eyes when he stopped trying to confess to juda or change his fate...he is such a good friend for juda and namjoo...but i feel that conscious juda actually will fall for dohwa..and i find that too cute...

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@larrysouth An idea I've been playing with after watching the latest episode goes back to observations a few people had made before (and, in fact, that Kyung made when he first became aware--and Dohwa in passing to Danoh, too). They spoke about how most characters still possessed their key traits from onstage even in the shadow. For Dohwa, it was being enamored with Ju Da and wanting to act as her protector, and wondering, partly in jest, why it wasn't the case for Danoh when it came to her and Kyung. Even Kyung had wondered why Danoh seemed to possess such vastly different feelings for him on and off-stage, going as far as to ask her how much of what had transpired between them was "really her" (which I assumed to mean that, despite the fact that his lines and actions were planned, how he behaved still felt real to him).

 

Since we already know that the author recycles her characters (and that she does this most often for characters she's most fond of, going by what our Squid chef says), I think it stands to reason that maybe the disconnect that we've (and they've) noticed might stem from the fact that Danoh's character might have undergone changes from her first iteration in the Trumpet Creeper manhwa to the current version of her character that we see in the Secret manhwa. 

 

What are these changes? I'm going to put my tinfoil hat on for a moment, so bear with me! :lol:

 

So things we know:

  • Both Danoh and Haru are repeating lines they've said onstage in Trumpet Creeper while in the shadow of Secret (e.g., for Danoh,
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    the line about never feeling the way she's felt before in the latest episode

    , and for Haru, the line about wanting to change his own fate)
  • Danoh is also repeating lines that she's said onstage in Trumpet Creeper while onstage in Secret (e.g., the "I could be married now" line).
  • Both Danoh and Haru are re-enacting (somewhat unwittingly) events that have occurred in Trumpet Creeper while in the shadow of Secret (e.g., Danoh falling onto him, him catching her, the water splashing, playing in the water, etc.) 

We already know based on the latest episode that

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Haru is clearly Kyung's right hand man/servant/guard/personal warrior/etc, who the latter is reluctant to let go and goes on to accuse the former of liking Danoh

, so we already have some kind of established dynamic between him, Kyung, and Danoh in Trumpet Creeper. 

 

If Trumpet Creeper is where Danoh, Kyung, and Haru were first conceptualized, then I think that it's possible that how they behave in Secret in the shadow are the remnants of their old characters. Both Haru and Danoh visibly resist their new characterization in Secret (with Danoh finding her pining after Kyung to be a shame, and with Haru undergoing all the subconscious work to find his way back to Danoh, a character he's not even meant to interact with). There aren't as many changes to Kyung (possibly) because his characterization isn't very different from one manhwa to the next. 

 

I think that what these romantic snapshots of Danoh and Haru in Goryeo are showing the viewer is that maybe the onstage loveline in Trumpet Creeper is between Haru and Danoh. We don't know who Danoh's referring to when she says she "could marry him the next day" in the comic snapshot. We assumed that she was talking about Trumpet Creeper!Kyung because that's what she said to him onstage in Secret. But what if she was talking about Trumpet Creeper!Haru? We've seen a lot of evidence of Danoh and Haru interacting in Trumpet Creeper now through Haru's memories--what if those memories aren't from the shadow of Trumpet Creeper, but from their onstage interactions? 

 

In which case... maybe the disconnect that Danoh's feeling from this storyline in Secret (the fact that she doesn't actually like Kyung as one example among many) is because, at the core of her character, who she is, is rooted in her prior characterization. I think this might explain, in part, why she's saying things she'd said before to Haru and why she's behaving in ways that are reminiscent of events that have already happened in their past manhwa. So maybe Trumpet Creeper ended in a tragedy with Danoh dying/being separated from Haru, and that lasting regret between the two of them followed them into Secret. We know, at least, that it's definitely followed Haru. 

 

(And wouldn't this make that scene with her father in the hospital especially poignant, the fact that in this life and in all others, she wishes to be his daughter? Ugh!) 

 

Mostly conjecture though. :)

 

...Also, can we talk about that majestic half-cape that Haru's sporting in the last few seconds of the episode? Mm

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What a bad writer / creator...

same faces - okay I can live with that. I knew it from a few Mangas I read - there is extremly this one writer I really like her stories but for some reason her leads looks always the same - and a few other people too.

But same names? Hello - be creative writer...

same lines....  I am lost now...

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