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[Drama 2019] Hotel Del Luna, 호텔 델루나

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A lot of cute HDL merchandising products and souvenirs.

 

Jang Man Wol is going to be rich...hahha :D

 

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13 minutes ago, Ondine said:

 

Cute photos with bff Sanchez:

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I need a drama with a Sanchez-like main lead. Someone always looking clueless (but actually perceptive), indifferent (but actually very caring), and just basically chill (while being really lucky). I need neutral his facial expression in all kinds of dramatic and romantic situations (interacting with overly dramatic Veronica)

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Hello *waves* everyone a new lurker :ph34r: here that finally decide to join in on the conversation :)

 

It's been a long time since I've watched a K drama.  I've never watched a Hong Sisters drama either so not sure how they typically end things.  Crossing fingers  we get a happy ending for Man Wol who has been through a lot.  I just want her to get a happier ending this time around.  

 

Thus far episode 10 is shaping up to be one of my favorite episodes.  It seemed to have a little bit of everything.  

 

Chang Seong and Man Wol  :wub: - I really enjoyed seeing how their relationship was changing; specifically how MW was changing.  She's a very lonely individual. She has emotionally shut everyone out for a thousand years due to her own guilt. You see it in the way she interacts with her own staff.  They've worked together for years but they only know things about each other on the surface level.  Manager Noh seemed to have some understanding about MW and it seemed she had a slighter deeper bond with him but even still she kept him at a distance.  So MW latched on to the only things that could provide "happiness" without any cost...her obsession with money, her collection of cars,  her wardrobe, and her champagne and caviar. 

 

In the library scene, for the first time we see MW being active in taking a direct interest in a relationship.  The way her hand reached out yet still hesitant and unsure how to console CS and then eventually dropping to give way to the only emotion she's known these few hundred years; Anger. And then that look of immediately regret upon CS's reply and the tug at his arm :tears: it was just a wonderfully played out scene.

 

I just loved the confession hug in front of the tree :w00t:  To me it felt just right.  I know some of you all want a little more romance and I'm all for that too but I think in this instance the hug made sense especially for MW.  This has probably been her first real hug in ages.  Probably the last time she was hugged was by her mom or dad.  CS's hug started out gentle almost reassuring...a warm embrace of safety and when she reciprocated he lowered his hand to her lower waist and tightened the hug in more intimate loving way :wub:

 

Now that we know next episode CS and MW are suppose to be having a secret office romance I'm tapping my fingers giddily hopeful for some cute scenes with eye locks, hand holding, and near missed kisses because of the three stooges :lol:  I want a kiss scene of course but I think it will be a lot more fun and entertaining this way  :sweatingbullets: 

  

Yeon Woo (Young Su) and Man Wol - I teared up when they saw each other :tears:  Such a beautifully executed scene. That spark of recognition or deja vu from YW/YS and MW's tearful but warm smile happy he got reincarnated and is living a good life.

 

Yeon Woo (Young Su) and Princess Song Hwa (MiRa) - don't hate me :ph34r: but I actually found them cute together :vicx:  MiRa has debt to pay.  She decided not to pursue CS to give way for MW.  So I guess for YW/YS she is becoming a friend or more to give support and a possible life together instead taking his life away?  :huh: 

 

Serial Killer arch  - I wonder if this is going to play out to the finale or will be wrapped up in the next couple of episodes.  This one seems pretty important considering Sanchez, CS, and MiRa know him. And now it seems the Serial Killer has a way to get to CS and Yuna.  I wonder if this will be a test for MW.  We know how protective she can be and considering how she had lost her family (rebel group) so if the Serial Killer as so much as hurt a single hair on CS's head she'd go after him.  Which makes me wonder how Chung Myung is going to appear?  I am of the theory that CS is not CM.  I kind of prefer it that way that CS is his own character who is teaching MW how to let go of her grudges.  Will CM some how get involved in this case and MW and gang maybe think he is the Serial Killer when the twist is of course he is not but is actually a good guy that tried to save CS and Yuna?  Maybe he ends up helping YW/YS  in the case but MW in her grudge rage may doubt CM and try to harm him :unsure:  All these theories :mellow: :wacko::sweatingbullets:

 

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Re: Chansung being "a weak male lead"; if this were reality and Chansung was my friend, I'd definitely tell him to stay far away from Man Wol. But as a TV drama, I find it very satisfying to see a story that's really all about the female lead and the male lead is playing second fiddle to her, instead of stories where it ends up becoming all about the male lead and his manpain, even when the show is named after her (*coughsecretarykimcough* *coughherprivatelifecough*). :P

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Thanks Ondine for answering my question about why HDL had to wait 13 years:tounge_xd: of course the CGI wasn't up to par then. 

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48 minutes ago, Ondine said:

 

And an article in Soompi with an interesting take on Chansung: that he's a weak male lead.

https://www.soompi.com/article/1345066wpp/7-times-hotel-del-luna-episodes-9-and-10-were-an-emotional-roller-coaster

 

 

hmmm, I am not sure about this. Chan Sung is only weak against all the supernatural players in the story, but he is actually very strong willed and courageous as a human and as a drama character, so I think it is unfair to tag him as a genderbended clingy romantic half. I think they have talked about this in the drama, that he was not helplessly brought in by fate, but in contrast, he has chosen where he is, to be at Man Wol's side. He knows in himself that he is a capable person (he got in and survived highly competitive Harvard, worked in Forbes listed hotels, served royalty, and have even been very successful in giving satisfaction to his new ghost customers, he does not do what MW wants but goes against her to what he thinks is right), so when he told Man Weol that he wont let her vanish, it was not just a romantic declaration, he has confidence in himself that he can do something to save her... I think

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Thank you @Ondine for clarifying the 13 years. I remember seeing the number 13 somewhere. So they attempted in 2013! Glad they waited. YJG would’ve been only 16?! 

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@aria26 I agree with your assessment.

 

I also find MW's words may been taken too literal in the article.  MW essentially told telling CS I need your help in stopping myself.  I may get blinded by my anger and not listen in that moment but I need you to not give up on me.  If you think about it MW may be strong on the outside but she is actual very weak emotionally.  She was abandoned by CM and she lost her family (gang) .  She had no one to console her or help her release her grudges.  No one seemed to care to find out her story over these 1000 of years.  No one cared enough to get to know her and see past her mean front.  CS is the first person to do so.  MW has a reason to do the right thing because someone believes in her.   That when the moment counts she will pull through and do the right thing.    

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My take on the similarities/plagiarism :

I watched a fair share of historical dramas when I was younger - let's just say that brides switcheroos and killing people on wedding days are seriously nothing new. If they don't kill someone, they kill themselves in front of the groom.

 

"I'll preserve my dignity and will never marry you! You can have my body but never my heart!" *cue self stab or stab the other person* because someone must die.

 

I'd even go far to think of bridal sedans getting switched halfway on the journey to the groom's houses and etc. 

 

Reincarnation tropes are also nothing new either. Death by hanging/arrows/poison and having fellow loved ones watch them suffer? Cruel and yet not uncommon in historical drama plots.

 

Things can get very similar, but for me (now this is just my own personal opinion) I think till now it still seems ok? I think for me these details are just common in such plots. 

 

I think what is important is how the writers weave new and old stories/plots/tropes together and the entire team carry out the writings to bring it to life.

 

Of course for those who have watched c dramas and feel there is plagiarism, we are all definitely entitled to our own opinions. I only hope that it does not take the joy out of watching the show for you:)

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What is space....  :phew:

 

Hahha... when they're in their own world ..

 

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I watched the preview for episode 11 again. Not much was revealed for us but perhaps the white rose is part of the secret office romance :w00t: 

 

Wow. This drama was on hold for 13 years. But it does require a lot of CG work to make it realistic. I still love how they created the tiger realistically. It was a good choice to showcase it now when CG effects have advanced ;)

 

1 hour ago, RiceGirl1212 said:

@aria26 I agree with your assessment.

 

I also find MW's words may been taken too literal in the article.  MW essentially told telling CS I need your help in stopping myself.  I may get blinded by my anger and not listen in that moment but I need you to not give up on me.  If you think about it MW may be strong on the outside but she is actual very weak emotionally.  She was abandoned by CM and she lost her family (gang) .  She had no one to console her or help her release her grudges.  No one seemed to care to find out her story over these 1000 of years.  No one cared enough to get to know her and see past her mean front.  CS is the first person to do so.  MW has a reason to do the right thing because someone believes in her.   That when the moment counts she will pull through and do the right thing.    

 

I agree! I think in order for us to see what CS means, we have to understand what he means to MW. I don’t think he is a weak male lead. He himself stated to Mago that he doesn’t like to be seen like that (as someone who just gets in the way and becomes second place). But CS himself knows what he wants and how he wants it so he is not afraid to go for it. I just dont find any huge flaws with CS. Even he has learnt to deal with the ghosts. To me, he and MW both need each other. And while they don’t directly tell us that they love each other, their expressions, the things they do for each other and their way of speech do show us. I love this about them. Of course i want to see more hands on but somehow every little thing makes me flutter too about them :wub:

 

@brielover i see that you know a lot about greek myths and goddesses :) I too love greek myths and goddesses but I don’t know remember too much since it has been a long time for me lol. The myth of the golden bough sounds so sweet (although I haven’t heard of it until you mentioned it). If they take that similar route, it would be a happy ending. But at this point, i am not even sure how it will end. I just want CS and MW happily together :D

 

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3 hours ago, Ondine said:

Also, super cute HDL keychains (with key)! I want a 404 one too, hahaha.

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This is soo cute!

May I ask how to get my hand on one of the keychains or merchandise? :D

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11 minutes ago, turtle0217 said:

This is soo cute!

May I ask how to get my hand on one of the keychains or merchandise? :D

 

I have no idea, I just saw the tweet. :sweatingbullets: Maybe someone else here knows?

 

I think her caption here says: "Why are there no photos of me on my Insta?" Because you're too busy posting photos of your secret boyfriend. :P

 

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30 minutes ago, Ondine said:

 

I think her caption here says: "Why are there no photos of me on my Insta?" Because you're too busy posting photos of your secret boyfriend. :P

 

 

Indeed hahha... i was laughing so much on a comment on twitter that she's flexing photos of her cute Bae and is cruel for making us so envious, and sulky.

 

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15 minutes ago, berny2 said:

 

Indeed hahha... i was laughing so much on a comment on twitter that she's flexing photos of her cute Bae and is cruel for making us so envious, and sulky.

 

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Wait. Did she actually say “secret boyfriend”? :w00t: omo!! 

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22 minutes ago, vangsweetie637 said:

 

Wait. Did she actually say “secret boyfriend”? :w00t: omo!! 

 

Hahahaa... not yet but she's flooding IG with his photos.. :D

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31 minutes ago, berny2 said:

 

Hahahaa... not yet but she's flooding IG with his photos.. :D

 

Lol! Good enough for now :D Is this the secret office romance we are going to be seeing? :blush: 

 

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I just have to celebrate again! :joy:

 

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omo! We are meeting Veronica next!

 

 

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19 hours ago, realistic2280a said:

I would love to see how secretive they are going to be... and how MW going to make things difficult for CS, she being the dominant partner... hehe... and CS with his too formal speech, he is too serious at times (que - do not throw the plastics trash today!).... then again, its not as if he hasnt dated before :)

 

I would love me some CS who scolds me about trash day...LOL...he's such a sweetie...really...I agree with Mi Ra..

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17 hours ago, cheekychipmunk_stv said:

We know that the bell boy is waiting for his sister to passed on to go heaven with her. So what's holding the bartender & lady housekeeping back? 

 

Idk if someone already answered this question of yours since I'm still reading some comments :D but the bartender said he still has some shame he needs to clear because he can't face his ancestors without it being resolved. While the lady housekeeper said she wants to see the last person pass by who were involved in her death.

 

@rocher22 I see that you're team CM  :P

 

16 hours ago, jasminssiii said:

I've seen Goodbye My Prncess and there's no similarity so far unless they make CM the good guy who was forced into something to save his kingdom and met MW and wanted to used her but fell in love later on and if YW was also into the plan all along to save her. Actually there was also a scene in GMP where the princess was waiting for the prince in her room after the wedding she's also wearing the red clothing and when the prince arrived she took the knife out as a sign that she won't let him touch her because of his betrayal. Okay while I'm writing this I'm starting to see and remember a lot of similarities between the two oh nooo but it's mostly on the past story of HDL and the plot of GMP..but I don't think Hong Sisters copied it though (I really hope) maybe it was just a coincidence or they were inspired by it or what..

 

I also commented to someone's comment on the previous pages regarding GMP..that the concept she mentioned reminded me of GMP but, agree, it's totally different. It's not like it's a new concept in dramaland for them to say Hong Sis copied it. 

 

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Okay, so I was rewatching some episodes and I remembered this scene where Sanchez said...

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..and this thought just came upon me, that what if CS used that gun and threatened Seol Ji Won or something..ha ha..that's why he returned to Korea..pretty sure there's bad blood between them....because I remember CS said...

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A bad side of CS?...hmmm..me likey :rolleyes:...he and MW would really be match made if that is so, I mean, MW even killed people in the past so...I just really want a dig deeper into CS character.

 

Also, I think I agree that CM is that firefly in ep 9. I noticed that whenever someone appeared from MW's past, there's this certain BGM they always play. I first heard it when Mi Ra appeared in ep 7 when CS and MW was in the yacht. They played it again when they first show YW in modern in that forest scene. And when they showed that firefly turned into a human shadow form, it's the same BGM again. Then, when CS met YW in Sanchez resto...it was played...again. I might be overthinking it but I don't think it was just random either. You guys can go check it out and try to listen to that certain BGM and let me know what you think :P. Idk what's called, so.

 

 

 

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