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[Drama 2019] Hotel Del Luna, 호텔 델루나

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38 minutes ago, berny2 said:

 

Knowing past life is cool ... but we only have 3 episodes left... and they haven't even settled in fully yet "in a relationship" status when i've been reading posts that they're already about to break up ???

I am so closing that tunnel !!! :angry:

 

I'm afraid this is as much as we would get in terms of sweet moments and skinship. Romance as a genre was never officially announced and romantic line probably would be subtle.

And they are in the relationship this is as clear as a day. They made it official back then under the tree.

They know it as well as everyone around them.

They just don't need to articulate it to confirm they just know and feel)

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Mi-Ra ah aren't you a medical major? Don't you know better not to yank your bf off the floor..? Especially after he took such a fall<_< And no one noticed he fell..?? Well, this is a fantasy genre so I guess logic doesn't apply here:P

I suppose I got my theory of Chan-Sung bein' Chung-Myung come true LoL. :lol:

  Although where does this leave Chan-Sung?! He really is way too nice:angry: Not to mention gullible. Did he have to run into the tunnel? Oh well.. 

Ep. 13 was really slooOOoowww~ I was pretty close to dozing off-_- Oh wondering who is that lil kid's mom? Ji-Won needs to be sent to hell like seriously. :crazy:

 

My Korean's limited but when Chan-Sung asked why she called that other Ma Go Unnie, she answered that's 'cause she's pretty, just like all hot guys are Oppas.. :lol:Then (I think?) Chan-Sung asked Man-Weol to call him Oppa. Oooh you sneaky Harvard thief Chan-Sung:w00t:

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59 minutes ago, juju84 said:

They know it as well as everyone around them.

They just don't need to articulate it to confirm they just know and feel)

 

they just dont have much skinship (they do hold hands and hug though) but they do tell each other very well how they feel. I'm probably really old, but I feel really giddy watching all those confessions . this is a couple who really communicate with each other instead of just kissing their hearts out and then having misunderstandings hehe

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I guess tomorrow's episode will be started with MW thinking that CS is the reincarnation of CM because he had CM's vibe right after walking out of that tunnel. She probably thought that being trapped in the tunnel of between living world and afterlife made CS remember his past life and whats not. 

Yeah, she never realize all these years there's a firefly keeping her company.. and that firefly helped your CS.

I think, CM will get out from CS's body and morphed back into his real figure.. as Pink Mago said now he can show himself already.

Never expected that they would meet this way. I am giving up the sleeping together scene then (because I thought CS dream of CM's perspective would be instrumental to reveal the truth to MW). :rolleyes:

 

So, CM cursed himself to be the moon that will watch her from afar. But, since we already have 1 moon, those deities won't let him to be the moon then, too big of a request to be granted that could disrupt all our cosmological science (okay, just joking :P). Instead, Mago let him be a firefly that could shed small light which MW never aware of.

Because of his last words, MW has been loathing the moon every time she sees it. Poor moon. What sin have you done to get entangled like that. LOL! :joy:

 

Not gonna comment more, since tomorrow's episode makes me so excited as to what going to unfold and happen. Please make JW vanish tomorrow. I cannot bear to see him anymore next week. Let's the final two episodes be focusing on our two leads already. :o

 

BTW, how I wish I could see what did MW imagine of when CS asks her if she could handle it if she take off his cloths. Aigoooo... pervy MW so cute. I thought if they could make an imagination bubble above her head with shirtless CS, that would be so funny. Just like Hyun Joong trying to flashback MW pick the flowers. LOL!:joy:

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That was a powerful and sparkly fight scene.

I think CM pulled the sword, because that was the only way 

he could hug her.

That was a good death.  

 

 

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13 minutes ago, aria26 said:

 

they just dont have much skinship (they do hold hands and hug though) but they do tell each other very well how they feel. I'm probably really old, but I feel really giddy watching all those confessions . this is a couple who really communicate with each other instead of just kissing their hearts out and then having misunderstandings hehe

Exactly:thumbsup:

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I like that MR brought YW to CS' room. :D

Sassy girl...but she wants the best for her boyfriend. :wub:

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where is CS's soul now though?

we had the goddess of wealth this episode, could she be the same as good luck? I was kinda hoping that a MaGo of mercy or good luck turns up at the end and saves the day

the MaGo of memory might play some role to solve the 49 day crossing the sanzu problem. MW says it is not that souls are disallowed to return from the afterlife, it is just that they have lost their memories. So if she remembers, she goes back and we get our happy ending :)

 

found this cool theory on twitter, I think writing is really strong when it people can speculate widely on where the story is going to go. really cool

 

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12 hours ago, aria26 said:

 

Yup, he might try to intervene and screw things up again, hehe. I am not sure how it will go down, but it is not paying back if the person you are indebted to does not appreciate your action, it is only serving your own ego/grudges.

 

Also excited about baby jin goo's acting <3

 

Anyway, if YJG and IU end up together, they will have lots of date pics to show their grandkids. That thought makes me happy.

 

I was thinking on the lines of karmatic/reincarnation sense of paying off debt.

 

There was this show that one of my good Indian friends use to watch.  It was a show about past life regressions.   People would come on the show and allow themselves to be hypnotized usually to gain answers to current real life phobias they had.  For example being afraid of dolls due to a horrific incident in the person's past life that every time she saw a doll's face she subconsciously be reminded of that past life trauma and freak out.  The specialist brought the person back to those past memories, expose the trauma, and then help them reconcile and bring closure to the incidents in the past so those memories would no longer effect them in the current present day time.

 

There was one episode that had a person go back to their past life and discover the person had been a victim of a train bombing. They had saved a complete stranger from getting hurt but ended up being killed from the blast.  Through the course of the episode it was revealed that the person's best friend was actually the stranger they had saved.  Their fates were tied together that upon reincarnation the stranger came back and entered the savior's life again as friend essentially "pay their debt".  If the two people never came on the past life regression show they would have never known their fateful past.

 

So I guess I'm stretching it a bit but we have MiRa' paying her debt to MW by not getting involved and getting in the way of CS and MW.  She subconsciously feels she shouldn't bother MW.  Granted Pink MaGo put MiRa and YW/YS together but even then despite their on again off again relationship MiRa is resolving her debt and providing closure to YW/YS.  This is all happening subconsciously.

 

 

 


So I think it's possible that the reappearance of CM, now inside of CS could be serving a similar purpose of paying debt and reconciliation. 

 

MW has this love hate relationship with CM.  He took all the choices away from her that night.  Or so she decided to perceive it that way.  Probably why MaGo 1 tells her she's so foolish and arrogant.

 

You compare that with CS's life.  He's had lots of things happen to him.  But he seems to always handle situations in a more positive attitude.  He could have easily chosen to be resentful towards his mother, angry at his father for stealing all the time, and completely unforgiving to MiRa for running off with his money.  But he doesn't.  He had a choice to wallow in his grief and misfortunes but instead he chooses to make the best out of what has been dealt to him.  Which I think is a big reason why the three other MaGos decided to choose him as the one to help MW get her closure.  He's a good person.

 

 
 

 

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So i have binged watch HDL in the last two 3 days so might be missing a few details. But I cant for the life of me understand why every one on my twitter tl is going gaga over CM and why CS is so much under praised or people think he is boring or have no passion. In my personal opinion i find CM a bit annoying since the beginning. I find selfish and self serving and i still dont understand why everyone MW considered family had to die and even if they why did he think MW would be okay with it or did he think she would appreciate being left alive while watching her people die. I dont understand his thought process. He then decides to die in the most selfish way. Chooses to remain as a firefly while robbing MW a chance of resolution. I would have sympathised with him more if mago kept him that way in order to protect MW from going full evil. But he chooses this himself and in past 1000+ never realised that him not letting go is hurting MW because since he cant reincarnate MW cant find peace. Also the body switch is weird because if he just wanted to talk with MW there would be no misunderstanding he could just tell her the truth and leave but from the preview it seems like he chooses to hang around in CS

 

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7 minutes ago, laola said:

 Chooses to remain as a firefly while robbing MW a chance of resolution. I would have sympathised with him more if mago kept him that way in order to protect MW from going full evil. But he chooses this himself and in past 1000+ never realised that him not letting go is hurting MW because since he cant reincarnate MW cant find peace. 

Woah, thanks for the good point. I was wondering why I was very uncomfortable with him being a firefly, and you hit bulls eye on my subconscious haha. Of course, he can have his own illogical grudges, but it does not score points with me

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ok today episode gave me so much complicated feelings. it was a very good episode but I felt bad for CS. He is the main lead and his love story had to be the most romantic one but CM is role stealing now. :wacko:..haha..CS is staying like a side character in MW and CM love story.

A man and woman who loved each other..even killed many for each other and she is waiting him with hate/love feelings and he is following her for 1000 years secretly. This is so romantic. CS has to do smth over this..lol. and I afraid I will annoy more at next episode coz we will learn he had to catch MW team for princess coz she will kill his army and with knowing this, he had to bring them all to her but told her I will marry with you ıf you spare MW life. That will also bring him more score and sure MW will also learn all the story.

 

We all know she will choose CS. She loves him but Hong Sisters give our boy a herotic action that will surpass the romanticism of MW and CM story..<_<....maybe he can wear that tiger print jacket for her. :phew:

 

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38 minutes ago, evok said:

ok today episode gave me so much complicated feelings. it was a very good episode but I felt bad for CS. He is the main lead and his love story had to be the most romantic one but CM is role stealing now. :wacko:..haha..CS is staying like a side character in MW and CM love story.

A man and woman who loved each other..even killed many for each other and she is waiting him with hate/love feelings and he is following her for 1000 years secretly. This is so romantic. CS has to do smth over this..lol. and I afraid I will annoy more at next episode coz we will learn he had to catch MW team for princess coz she will kill his army and with knowing this, he had to bring them all to her but told her I will marry with you ıf you spare MW life. That will also bring him more score and sure MW will also learn all the story.

 

We all know she will choose CS. She loves him but Hong Sisters give our boy a herotic action that will surpass the romanticism of MW and CM story..<_<....maybe he can wear that tiger print jacket for her. :phew:

 

Look at it this way.....Chocolate and Sugar tastes nice but it can give you diabetes.....CM and MW are that way....they have a intense love hate relationship that has connected them for 1000 years but neither had been able to do anything good for each other...in fact they have done more harm to each other and the collateral damage has been insanely large.....CS has spent a few months yet MW has made more progress to restore her inner peace, smiled more genuinely and even forgiven herself to an extent over that period....why??? Because CS is not a Knight in shining armor who burns bright only for moments....he is that quite, genuinely nice, decent guy who will stand by you and just be there as an umbrella sheilding you from both intense heat and cold rain....when life throws curve balls at you....you don't need grand romance....what you need is a steady hand to just hold on to face the storm...somebody to just be there for you....for me CS is one of the best written korean drama male lead so far in a way....because I find his qualities more appealing and realistic....just saying

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1 hour ago, evok said:

ok today episode gave me so much complicated feelings. it was a very good episode but I felt bad for CS. 

No need to feel bad for CS, CS fangirls like me find our jaws stretched from smiling at his sweet lines and our knees wobbly from his hugs. CM is just meh for me

 

Does anyone understand MaGo 5 about the first guest? Was that the blind girl? Is she rich? Will the hit and run baker be a problem? Any other translations for those lines?

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59 minutes ago, Nymeria289 said:

Look at it this way.....Chocolate and Sugar tastes nice but it can give you diabetes.....CM and MW are that way....they have a intense love hate relationship that has connected them for 1000 years but neither had been able to do anything good for each other...in fact they have done more harm to each other and the collateral damage has been insanely large.....CS has spent a few months yet MW has made more progress to restore her inner peace, smiled more genuinely and even forgiven herself to an extent over that period....why??? Because CS is not a Knight in shining armor who burns bright only for moments....he is that quite, genuinely nice, decent guy who will stand by you and just be there as an umbrella shielding you from both intense heat and cold rain....when life throws curve balls at you....you don't need grand romance....what you need is a steady hand to just hold on to face the storm...somebody to just be there for you....for me CS is one of the best written Korean drama male lead so far in a way....because I find his qualities more appealing and realistic....just saying

 

Love the analogy.  I also love that CS is just a normal human being who is also a kind gentleman, compared to all the magical being that have extra power etc.  In this context he seems to be the unique one among the non human being in his daily surrounding and that is his strength. 

 

Looking forward to what is in store for us by the writers till the end.

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3 hours ago, laola said:

I find selfish and self serving and i still dont understand why everyone MW considered family had to die and even if they why did he think MW would be okay with it or did he think she would appreciate being left alive while watching her people die. I dont understand his thought process. He then decides to die in the most selfish way. Chooses to remain as a firefly while robbing MW a chance of resolution. I would have sympathised with him more if mago kept him that way in order to protect MW from going full evil. But he chooses this himself and in past 1000+ never realised that him not letting go is hurting MW because since he cant reincarnate MW cant find peace. Also the body switch is weird because if he just wanted to talk with MW there would be no misunderstanding he could just tell her the truth and leave but from the preview it seems like he chooses to hang around in CS

 

 

I've been struggling to figure out why CM unsettled me and why I never really warmed up to him, or be enchanted by him; was it his tendency to smirk a lot? (lolololol) Was it his ever-so-murky intentions? And now I know, it was these things you wrote. CM had spent some time not only with MW, but also YW (and I believe, this also meant he had kinda, sorta, familiarized himself with all the thief gang), enough to get a good grasp what they meant for MW. And for him to give his life to MW, so to speak, well... the notion may seem romantic but yes, it was also selfish. Of course MW wanted him to die and I never doubted this, but MW wanted him to die by her hands, on her terms, in the way she wanted him to. CM may had loved her, but he had never actually understood her. 

 

Now I don't want to be that person, but the difference with CS is glaring and so in your face you may need to wear shades. 

 

(I also don't think CS is boring. No, he is faaaaar from that. He is prim and proper and has a good head on his shoulders but he is no pushover. Everything that has happened in his life is pretty much his choice. Was sold and thus, obligated to work for MW? lolnope, but imma see what your gigs are about then I decide it myself. Was given meds so that he can't see ghosts anymore? good idea, but I ain't about that lyfe because boss is cute and annoying and me likes it. Said boss assumed he was above being pathetic over dead lover? he went all "that's cute, babe, but I will be clingy and pathetic and overdramatic if you're gone and do not assume the otherwise. now shut up. And what makes you think I will survive it?" Also, the way he confronted Jiwon both in college and adulthood? Hot. perfect character is perfect.)

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16 minutes ago, jonginschicken said:

 

I've been struggling to figure out why CM unsettled me and why I never really warmed up to him, or be enchanted by him; was it his tendency to smirk a lot? (lolololol) Was it his ever-so-murky intentions? And now I know, it was these things you wrote. CM had spent some time not only with MW, but also YW (and I believe, this also meant he had kinda, sorta, familiarized himself with all the thief gang), enough to get a good grasp what they meant for MW. And for him to give his life to MW, so to speak, well... the notion may seem romantic but yes, it was also selfish. Of course MW wanted him to die and I never doubted this, but MW wanted him to die by her hands, in her terms, in the way she wanted him to. CM may had loved her, but he had never actually understood her. 

 

Now I don't want to be that person, but the difference with CS is glaring and so in your face you may need to wear shades. 

 

(I also don't think CS is boring. No, he is faaaaar from that. He is prim and proper and has a good head on his shoulders but he is no pushover. Everything that has happened in his life is pretty much his choice. Was sold and thus, obligated to work for MW? lolnope, but imma see what your gigs are about then I decide it myself. Was given meds so that he can't see ghosts anymore? good idea, but I ain't about that lyfe because boss is cute and annoying and me likes it. Said boss assumed he was above being pathetic over dead lover? he went all "that's cute, babe, but I will be clingy and pathetic and overdramatic if you're gone and do not assume the otherwise. now shut up. And what makes you think I will survive it?" Also, the way he confronted Jiwon both in college and adulthood? Hot. perfect character is perfect.)

I agree with you about Cs he is one of the most resolute and clear headed character in the sea of confused souls. I love the way his character have unpacked over the episodes

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