Quantcast
Jump to content
Search In
  • More options...
Find results that contain...
Find results in...
Due to technical issues, third release of Medals in the Members Shop will be delayed.

Very Important Poll  

59 members have voted

This poll is closed to new votes
  1. 1. Was there an affair?

    • No, there was no affair. It was one sided on Yoo Ri's part
    • Yes, there was an ongoing affair.
    • It was a one night stand.
  2. 2. The Conspiracy Theory

    • Yoo Ri is not the real daughter but the VP's mistress.
    • Sung Joon is doing this for his own gain ( to advance his career).
    • The VP hired Yoo Ri to destroy the Sung Joon - Jung Sun.
    • This is a high-end escort service.
    • There really is no conspiracy - just a marriage breaking down.

  • Please sign in or register to vote in this poll.
  • Poll closed on 12/16/2019 at 01:50 PM

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, mellinadear said:

Not everyone will be Happy on the direction of this episode but I was.

 

It's time for JS to Move on. I was happy when she Told her Ex (yes he's her EX now. Yeehaw) to "End" what they have.

 

I rooted for her to take revenge but then i realized that revenge will make her feel pain all over again. I don't want her to get tormented, wasting her time & energy on a man who doesn't deserve it.

 

I got so mad when I read some comments hoping for the couple to come back together.

Why?

When a man cheats, Society expects that women should just Up and forgive them. Why? Because they are men!

If Reverse was the case, The woman would be sacrificed and her head will be served on a platter.

Why? Because there are some Standards Society requires women to keep. 

 

It annoys me a lot.

 

Yes, We as humans can find ways to forgive each other. Learn from our mistakes and leave the past behind us. Often times, it's hard but we strive to move ahead.

 

It's never gonna be easy getting back together with partners who had affairs but some do & they make it work while others don't.

 

For JS, she Needs to leave him. He treated her like she wasn't worth it. He hid a lot of things from her. She doesn't even know his past. He humiliated her in the eyes of her colleagues (howbeit indirectly), made her the object of pity, allowed her to be a game for the VP to play with just so he could make his "daughter" comfortable.

 

That's not right!

 

She deserves Freedom.

She deserves Peace.

She Deserves Happiness that the world still have to offer.

For the sake of her Physical & Mental Health, She Needs to leave Him be.

giphy.gif

 

Extremely ell said! I am baffled by people who want to see her reconciled with a man who made a fool of her, humiliated her and treated their marriage like it was something nasty he accidentally stepped in because of his own inadequacies and self-pity. That would be a horror of an ending:vicx:

 

There is no excuse for how badly Sung Jun has treated Jung Sun in this drama.  How about getting some counselling instead of the pathetic BS excuses he made up for cheating on his wife? I am beyond tired of society giving grown men a pass to treat women badly, then once the idiots come back crying again, the women are all but expected to act like doormats and take them back. 

 

Perhaps in the spirit of forgiveness and moving on, Jung Sun can get her ahjussi psychiatrist friend to recommend a professional for Sung Jun and he might actually start to take responsibility for his own failings instead of blaming his mistakes on others. But that's it!

 

I want an ending where the intelligent, beautiful, confident, accomplished Na Jung Sun moves on from her pathetic ex-husband and leaves him in her past where he belongs.  The greatest romance will be the one where she loves herself and puts herself and her peace of mind first and says good riddance and goodbye to the spineless, adulterous coward who has caused her so much pain. That would be a happy ending.

  • Like 10
  • Love 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Takingthehighroad said:

Surely, goodness, the pictures will still be released. There has to be repercussions for what the bad guys have done.  I'm proud JS is letting SJ go - that's the only thing she can do for her peace of mind. Still, I hope the ending isn't white-washed - I still want the bad guys punished. I just don't see any redeeming qualities in Director Bae, the VP & YR. (I think YR has lost her mojo, another way of saying she's lost her confidence, energy, & success. I just didn't want to attribute those three words to YR.)

JS too has 'lost her mojo' ( Spanish?). When YR shamelessly told her to divorce SJ, there was a flashback of a lift scene where YR was so pathetic, JS listlessly said it's none of your business or like so, she was hard as nails earlier.

 

Even if JS does not wish to hold on to SJ anymore, she should not be made out to be defeated. She chose to give up SJ.
 

The preview shows a rather zombie like JS. I hope it was just a wrong angle.

otherwise, the writer gave her a cheating husband, a still born baby, a failed marriage, being humiliated for half of the show, almost sacked ... cruel.

 

They must get her out of that company. 

  • Like 7
  • Love 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, maribella said:

Even if JS does not wish to hold on to SJ anymore, she should not be made out to be defeated. She chose to give up SJ.
 

The preview shows a rather zombie like JS. I hope it was just a wrong angle.

otherwise, the writer gave her a cheating husband, a still born baby, a failed marriage, being humiliated for half of the show, almost sacked ... cruel.

 

They must get her out of that company. 

Exactly,  Divorcing SJ isn't defeat. That guy is no prize!

 

I agree.  This drama has been too cruel to a good woman like Jung Sun. So disappointing and frustrating:tears:

  • Like 4
  • Sad 1
  • LOL 2
  • Love 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The best ending for me is the revelation that YR is not the VP daughter. Her mother lied to her to ensure her to have a better father when she is gone. Then she will be sacked from the company and from Ha family and go back to her pit. But this time no SJ as this man realized his mistake and choose to go abroad. 
 

as for our NJS she will keep soaring in the sky of Sung Un Dept Store with CEO back up. Ggeut 

  • Like 2
  • Love 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Unlike most here. I like the way this drama is ending.

 

I think JS summed it best. Despite the cheating, she thought he's at least a good person. Realizing he's not who she thinks he is, she posed the question: Did they really know each other at all during their marriage? I think the short answer is no. He never was honest with her, not about his family, his roots, not about his ambition to climb up the corporate ladder. She wasn't even given a chance to get to know him. The real him. Which is why when the couple faced the miscarriage, she didn't feel like she could rely on him. She didn't think he'd understand her because he never opened up to her at all.

 

Now that she's realized all of this, she can finally let him go. It looks like SJ's realized too late who he truly loves and it's not Yuri. And the keywords here are once again: too friggin' late. I don't think JS would ever be out for petty revenge. Out of all the characters in this drama, her heart is the purest. Even when she realized Yuri's the mistress, she was still looking out for her, telling her to come out under the rain. When she hears the truth from SJ's mother, she realized that he's just a pitiful man. We can see her changing her mind about the revenge, that she no longer wants anything to do with him.

 

JS was never about blind vengeance. Her story, unlike Minah and Hyunah isn't a love story or redemption. It's about her journey to self-discovery and self-reflection. She's come to terms as a woman, an ex-wife, an ex-daughter-in-law, and an ex-mother. She's accepting everything she have and then lost. The real triumph is that she didn't let anything of those change the core of who she is, which is a smart, kind, righteous, loving friend, daughter, and business woman.

 

Leave the revenge to the VP's wife and sister.

  • Like 11
  • Love 4
  • Insightful 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Let the VIP team join another departmental store and bring down Sung Un. VP and Yuri will have nothing to inherit

  • Like 3
  • Love 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just read some comments about the screen writer attempting to create a sympathetic home wrecker and failed because of Jang Nara's great acting and changed the plot reacting to viewers' responses. Most of the script and filming were completed before viewers began to react, I think.  I don't think the screen writer failed; I think we were supposed to sympathize with Jang Nara and hate Yuri and Sang Joon.  Since we don't yet know the finale, I am not sure about the final take aways, but here are some guesses:

MiNa says early on that you never really know for sure what is going on with other people, they only show you one side, or what they want you to see.

Since we start out thinking JS and SJ have a perfect marriage and everyone around them thinks so too, it is shocking to see that what it looks like is not reality.  What is so sad is that JS thinks it is perfect, too, in the beginning.

This is true for each character.  HA appears elegant and sophisticated, but is broke.  Mina looks like a coping working Mom, but she is falling apart.  SW , who appears young and green, turns out to be a rich chaebol who apparently wants to prove something to himself.  Everybody else, if character is shown at all, is multifaceted in personality.  Even PR director, who wants to appear to be a playboy when we first meet him, later appears to be falling hard for HA and would probably make a truly devoted husband. Same with Mina's husband, appears to be immature and selfish when we first meet him, but shows a much more mature side when he is put to the test.

OR we are all in the process of growing and learning and need to extend the benefit of the doubt to people because we never fully know their back story or what they are dealing with.  While I believe this is true, I also believe we are each responsible for our choices and the consequences of them.

Until we see what the writer does with SJ in the end, I can't be sure.  Definitely, one will be,  you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone.  

  • Like 10
  • Love 3
  • Insightful 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If the CEO plan to put Director Bae to replace SJ, then she is really dirty as well. All the VIPs are disgusting and dirty that is. Perhaps this is the whole point about this drama lol. 

 

I clapped when JS told SJ to end it here. The look on SJ's face like he couldn't believe what he heard.  If you really love your wife, you should have at least show some effort to win her back after your "mistake". But no, you keep hurting her.

 

JS now has the final say on what she want to do with SJ and I love love the writer made it this way.

 

Whatever the final episode come out like tonight, I will imagine my own version of ending, might include some company takeover plot, Yuri being fake daughter and really really suffer. Also SJ to do A LOT LOT more to win JS back and I'm satisfied :lol:.

 

  • Like 5
  • LOL 5
  • Love 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, DL Wetherill said:

I can’t help it I still want JS to get back with SJ because I’m a huge Lee Sang Yoon fan. He only ever looked happy when he was with JS. I know I’m a sentimental fool. Oh well. Let’s see what tomorrow brings for Christmas Eve.

 

  • Like 5
  • LOL 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So I'm thinking its the VP and his crony that staged the drunken guy's drama to sabotage the Black society event. What he said to his crony after Mina was given the project sounded like he would make something happen during the launch. However, they probably didn't know SW's real identity cos attacking SW will cause a huge furore and get the Minister involved. The 'drunk' would spill all the beans and implicate HJW. Ha ha ... can't wait for HJW to get his just desserts in jail!

  • Like 2
  • Love 1
  • Insightful 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  

2 hours ago, maribella said:

It is not just JNR's performance but the so-called dark secret is being illegitimate and cleaning up his boss' horny activities. 
There are so many KDs which had the mistress installed as Lady of the mansion and the offspring is the heir. It is just so weak, so lacking in ideas. Now paying off mistresses and being the front for shares bought by his boss is hardly the reason to breakup a loving marriage. A wife who works with him would understand office politics. 
 

I agree that the writer and PD want to give another POV on a mistress. In which case, the actress has to be someone as accomplished as JNR. This actress needs more experience to play a rival against an established actress. This is just too ambitious.

 

It is not the 'secret' that makes me want SJ to be out of JS' life, it is what happens after he is found out. He tells  his BFF how he feels for her in no uncertain terms, his tender moments with YR are shown as real feelings, he does not hide or lie about seeing her. He says to the father legit or no that he wants to be with her. I cannot believe that a man who still loves his wife would rub it in the way SJ has done  from episode 7 onwards. If the writer wishes to give a twist such as making him realise he still loves his wife and wants to return to her in the last episode, he should have been in a typical 'secret' relationship. I would think  he cares for JS not to hurt or humiliate her. Then seeing how he could lose her, the bulb lights up, his heart pounds etc.  But he had burnt his bridges with their relationship. So what is there to go back to? YR is still as clingy and needy as earlier on.

 

 A comedian defines a mistress as someone who is between the master and the matress.  If it is just sex, it would be more plausible that he would want to return home after a short while.

Excellent post.  100% agree with this.  

 

1 hour ago, KY L said:

Unlike most here. I like the way this drama is ending.

 

I think JS summed it best. Despite the cheating, she thought he's at least a good person. Realizing he's not who she thinks he is, she posed the question: Did they really know each other at all during their marriage? I think the short answer is no. He never was honest with her, not about his family, his roots, not about his ambition to climb up the corporate ladder. She wasn't even given a chance to get to know him. The real him. Which is why when the couple faced the miscarriage, she didn't feel like she could rely on him. She didn't think he'd understand her because he never opened up to her at all.

 

Now that she's realized all of this, she can finally let him go. It looks like SJ's realized too late who he truly loves and it's not Yuri. And the keywords here are once again: too friggin' late. I don't think JS would ever be out for petty revenge. Out of all the characters in this drama, her heart is the purest. Even when she realized Yuri's the mistress, she was still looking out for her, telling her to come out under the rain. When she hears the truth from SJ's mother, she realized that he's just a pitiful man. We can see her changing her mind about the revenge, that she no longer wants anything to do with him.

 

JS was never about blind vengeance. Her story, unlike Minah and Hyunah isn't a love story or redemption. It's about her journey to self-discovery and self-reflection. She's come to terms as a woman, an ex-wife, an ex-daughter-in-law, and an ex-mother. She's accepting everything she have and then lost. The real triumph is that she didn't let anything of those change the core of who she is, which is a smart, kind, righteous, loving friend, daughter, and business woman.

 

Leave the revenge to the VP's wife and sister.

Great post.

 

Not going to lie it would be incredibly satisfying television to see JS destroy SJ and YR  and take them down in flames but I also understand why-as others have pointed out-that JS knows she doesn't want to get involved with the CEO and VP's wife's games because that isn't who she is.  Unlike Sung Jun who willingly wallowed deep in the VP's mud for years, JS is smart enough to know they just want to use her and what a slippery slope it can be.

 

At least it seems like the pit SJ has, inadvertently, dug with his dirty actions is going to collapse in on him without JS having to get her hands dirty.  As predicted the cracks in YR and SJ's relationship are already starting to show. They won't last because along with the external pressures, unsurprisingly, a relationship based on shared self-pity, misery, envy, lies, deceit and infidelity isn't much fun once the thrill is gone.

 

I agree with you @maribella it would be better if she could get away from the dirty corporate politics at Sang Un (on her own terms of course). That place holds so much negativity for her now.

  • Like 6
  • Love 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Watch it with sub  

can I say VIP team need training  on how to deal with accident :mrgreen:

1 - standing there looking shock for 3 second wouldn’t help ( it isn’t like she fall from the moon ) :D

 

5e01733449a5b967604338.gif?download

 

2- shouting wake up , wake up wouldn’t make difference either  :phew: 

 

3 -but  how annoying the husband in the scene, after standing their for second, he run to play hero ;)

 

But glad he didn’t get thank you but 

 

ezgif-2-67ceab9f5f05.gif

 

 

  • Like 3
  • LOL 13
  • Love 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, DL Wetherill said:

I know I’m a sentimental fool. Oh well. Let’s see what tomorrow brings for Christmas Eve.


I am a sentimental fool as well! 
I know JS needs to divorce SJ, but in my heart of hearts I want them to be together. :heart:

  • Like 5
  • Love 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, maribella said:

JS too has 'lost her mojo' ( Spanish?). When YR shamelessly told her to divorce SJ, there was a flashback of a lift scene where YR was so pathetic, JS listlessly said it's none of your business or like so, she was hard as nails earlier.

The slang word mojo means s. appeal - of course, YR never had that (to me anyway. Another hidden puzzle. :wacko:), The alternative definition for mojo is self-confidence, energy, etc, towards something. From her miserable expressions I'm attributing that mojo to her relationship w/SJ. She doubts/questions his feelings for her. That's just an expression we used in my day (century) when a boy dumped a girl - she had lost her mojo. 

 

JS listlessly replying to the mojo woman is said with resignation, with the realization that it is indeed over between JS & SJ. I think JS held onto the hope that she could bring her husband back, that she & SJ could go back to the way it use to be. You know sometimes you get so entangled in your emotions that it's hard to think or judge realistically. But the more she learns about her husband's true self, the more the "thinking" part of her brain takes over. The expression that "someone needs to knock some sense into her/his head"...well, it looks like the script-writer took that literally. 

 

I have enjoyed the ride, but I am so  disappointed w/the direction the drama is taking. I've gone from a V.I.P. fan to a V.P.O. fan. And I'm expected to do all this fancy cooking? Let's take out the word fancy. 

  • Like 5
  • LOL 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
39 minutes ago, maribella said:

@Ameera Ali before this show ends, I want to tell you how funny your videos and images are. Some are positively wicked.:D

:D Co-signed!  Lots of your gifs have made me laugh out :lol:

  • Like 1
  • LOL 3
  • Thanks 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

the ending of episode 15 works as sedative for me, after so much typhoon and bumpy roads I can see peace in Jung Sun now. 

 

I'm sure it's the mother in law that makes her finally find her peace. It's not because the affair story or because Sung Joon is unlegitimate son. But because finally Jung Sun realize that she knew nothing about Sung Joon. The flashback scene when Yu Ri crying apologize to her and said that Jung didn't know what makes him sad just realize Jung Sun that its true. The episode title really said it, 

Were We Ever In Love?

 

Yu Ri also finally hit her senses that all this time she has nothing on him. And he never think of her equal as Jung Sun in his heart. No matter what its just an affair and she is nothing between Jung Sun and Sung Joon. Everyone won't recognize he at all. The matchmaker already tried to wake her up, there's no way she didn't know about the scandal, she even know about a chaebol drinking habit. The matchmaker really tried to give Yu Ri a better life. It's a surprise TU Group's son (who's described as a total chaebol and never took interest in mingled with other chaebol but really give a very warm impression toward Yu Ri). I have the same thought with the matchmaker, I will take the new path offered by Kim Min Gi forget Sung Joon, and live a life that will give me comfort. We can see in the last episode how insecure she was when drunk Sung Joon accidentally went to his home with Jung Sun. How competitive she was knowing that Sung Joon will be meeting Jung Sun after the event. I bet she will flip once she read Jung Sun texting him LOL.... well if he ever cheated on his wife why won't he cheated on you right?

 

Jae Woong should resign, he damage the company for sure with his mistress scandal and I hope his wife will replace his position. I see the CEO and his wife working together perfectly Girl Power!

 

Seems like Sung Joon will resign and live in another place, the film roll he found i bet its contain his memory with Jung Sun.That's when he realize his mother sayings. What will make him cried.:dissapointed_relieved:

 

I hope every character will find their peace too. Mi Na won't leave the job but she and her husband will solve it together and become more stronger as a family. Hyuna will be happy with Jin Ho. And funny Ji Young will find someone to date too.

And lastly I hope the matchmaker will find someone decent for Sang Woo, he is a good one to keep. :blush:

 

And I hope its really Gong Yoo who will be Jung Sun new love. (crossed finger):heart:

  • Like 12

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I also, of course, want the satisfaction of watching JS burn her bridges with the company as I've passionately proclaimed a few episodes back. :D But now I see that it isn't that type of drama. And I think it would be cliche to go down that path. Also, I think because of her loyalty and friendship with her team, I don't see her burying her coworker's careers with the company.

 

I didn't know that the writer changed the plot after hearing the public's responses. It still doesn't change my mind that JS is a well thought out character, and Hyunah and Mina's stories were fully fleshed out as part of the main story, rather than one-dimensional fillers. If the writer wants us to be sympathetic to Yuri, they have some explaining to do. Yuri has no autonomy, no aspiration, and comes off as a manipulative immature girl who wallows in self-pity. She wasn't a likable character even before the reveal.

 

Perhaps if we got more of SJ's backstory, maybe he wouldn't be so hated. I still don't know what his motivation was for becoming the VP's gofer.

  • Like 8
  • Love 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I really like all your ideas and thoughts about this drama.

I agree with the end of JS and SJ relationship. This is for the best.

And for Yuri...I want het to stay as a membet of the Ha family..why....???

Because that would be a mental punishment, she would nevet bee seen as a valuable person there, yes she can have money and stuff...but that would not make her happy to the contrary she would have to live always by this familly  standar and power,  she can never have love, happiness, peace etc...she would have to be strong to even survive a familly diner, study etc...pay her own way on that familly...wich for me is the best pay for her...suffer, misery, lonleyness, etc  . .

That is best end for me...

She paying for her mistakes. Wille our dear JS continues her life free, powerfull, happy and maybe new love...

  • Like 5
  • Love 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...