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  1. 1. Was there an affair?

    • No, there was no affair. It was one sided on Yoo Ri's part
    • Yes, there was an ongoing affair.
    • It was a one night stand.
  2. 2. The Conspiracy Theory

    • Yoo Ri is not the real daughter but the VP's mistress.
    • Sung Joon is doing this for his own gain ( to advance his career).
    • The VP hired Yoo Ri to destroy the Sung Joon - Jung Sun.
    • This is a high-end escort service.
    • There really is no conspiracy - just a marriage breaking down.

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  • Poll closed on 12/16/2019 at 01:50 PM

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45 minutes ago, 2good2btru said:

@liltash85 I can normally separate character from real life person playing the part but I was thinking the exact same thing! Lol I felt like her demeanor was very similar to her character YR. I was like, youre kinda friendly to LSY and a bit handsy. Umm no.  Lol

 

I also felt like she was trying too hard to make it look like off camera that she's close to JNR. As though theyre friends off screen and was constantly hanging on to her.  She's trying not to get hated on by JNR/JS fans but for me made it feel like she was doing what YR did. She used JS to help her and put on that innocent act.  I was like oooh you're too much like YR and not feeling you. Lol

 

Me 3. Did you notice PYJ released a statement that she broke up with her bf morning after ep 8 (the ep where we know she's the one)? They met while shooting another drama too. I was so mind-blown :hushed:  like is she dating LSY for real lol. I cannot differentiate real and reel anymore because of this drama hahaha.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, realistic2280a said:

 

Ah... i can assure you my life have so much drama, even in my marriage;  if i have the chance to turn back time and do things differently, i would...and provably would not have choosen my husband as my life partner now, haha..... As for work, back-stabbing, nepotism and other politics are so common that one just silently does one's work, be happy and go back home; get your paycheck and watch happy drama at night, travel when there's holiday and be stress free. Yep, that's my life ..  :D

Sorry to hear that. Each of us deals with stress differently. Some choose yoga (like watching happy comedy) while others choose kickboxing (like watching dramatic intense thriller). 

But I guess I have watched way too many years of dramas to let any of them affect me tremendously. Dramas teach us theories but life is where we practice them. I'd rather save the energy preparing for any hardships throw my way in real life.

 

I ache for NJS, admire HA for being strong and face her attacker, and happy for MN that she has a supportive husband. As for PSJ character, I am not convinced what he did to his wife was for her own safety and good. He has been doing the dirty deeds for so long, why didn't he "think" for her then but only after she found out about his affair? I personally don't think his character was done right in term of storyline, directing and acting. This character has so much room to develope.

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9 hours ago, liltash85 said:

Maybe it is just me but from the making video, i don't like the character of the actress that play YR. i see some similarity in her with YR. Like she is seducing LSY during shooting. hahaha

 

10 hours ago, maribella said:

LSY is doing the right thing, showing the face behind the scenes, else he is going to be typecast as an adulterer actor. He already has two dramas as an adulterer. I didn't watch the airport show. It had good ratings Iheard.

 

8 hours ago, 2good2btru said:

@liltash85 I can normally separate character from real life person playing the part but I was thinking the exact same thing! Lol I felt like her demeanor was very similar to her character YR. I was like, youre kinda friendly to LSY and a bit handsy. Umm no.  Lol

 

I also felt like she was trying too hard to make it look like off camera that she's close to JNR. As though theyre friends off screen and was constantly hanging on to her.  She's trying not to get hated on by JNR/JS fans but for me made it feel like she was doing what YR did. She used JS to help her and put on that innocent act.  I was like oooh you're too much like YR and not feeling you. Lol

:lol::lol::lol: LMAOOOO! Sounds annoying.

 

I was wondering the same about the YR actress and how this role will impact her career. The character is absolutely hated and the actress is developing a reputation for playing these third party characters. She actually played a cute, supporting role in What's Wrong With Secretary Kim? less than a year ago but all the comments I see about her keep bringing up how she also played a character trying to break up a couple in Fight My Way.

 

I will say, personally, I am not impressed by her acting. I think she is the weakest actor in the drama by far (Lee Sang Yoon is the second weakest IMO) Yuri's character is repulsive but I feel like in the hands of a better actress the character might at least come across as more complex or a bit less one note but PYJ is incapable of giving the character any emotional depth. She just emanates an air of pathetic self-pity in every scene. And I am beyond tired of her crying or that annoying goldfish expression and, sorry, to get personal but her overbite bugs me so much because of her default :open_mouth: expression. At least her weak acting makes the character even easier to hate lol!

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I don't think it's fair to rubbish YR the actress. She is a pathetic character in the series. Even till the last episode, she was the odd one out of the Ha family. Not that we should like or forgive the character but the actress is so inoffensive. She and JNR hugged, just like JNR hugged the little girl. 
 

There is so much bad blood between the two characters that they probably felt the need to 're align'. I noticed after the wine tipping scene on YR, the actress playing the VP's wife was touching YR and asking her if she was alright.

 

After seeing the preview of ep 15, SJ sounded frantic seeing JS on the floor, I am willing to accept that his one expression all along was demanded by the PD and writer. YR's perpetual wide eyed look must be for the same reason. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. She was fine in fight my way- still the helpless damsel.
We should see more emoting in 15 from everyone, I'm sure. 

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wah I'm late to the party so I missed the polls..... I'm following the drama and find it interesting. this is the second character played by LSY on having affair while he's married. But he portray his character in VIP better.

seeing the poll somehow I agree with one of its question "Yu Ri is actually the mistress of the VP" i have that thought too... the scene where Sung Joon escort her to the hotel room for the VP still support my thinking.

 

and for Sung Woo I knew that he is someone important... and guess what he is the foreign minister son... I'm happy for Hyuna she is able to find a real happiness now, and I hope Mi Na won't quit her job if she is I really hope she can start her own business where she can take care her kids as well... 

 

For Jung Sun I wish her happiness, I think its better that the divorce happen and Jung Sun meet another man who loves riding bike as she is and will love her in honesty and in their worst situation, because turns out Sung Joon couldn't love her that much. For Yu Ri I hope she's got her karma, living alone for the rest of her life is suit for her, her innocence is on another level that makes it annoying. And for Sung Joon, what your mom said is right "You really have no idea what you lose...."

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Just watched bts of ep 14. When JNR slaps LSY it sounds much harder and looks more real than the one in the ep.

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@lu09 , @KDramaLogic next episode should be called let’s play lion king, if you not gonna divorces him :joy:

 

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@nhh Did you notice PYJ released a statement that she broke up with her bf morning after ep 8 (the ep where we know she's the one)? They met while shooting another drama too. I was so mind-blown :hushed:  like is she dating LSY for real lol

 

Oh , pleases no!:confounded:

 

I watched both “What’s wrong with Secretary Kim? “ and “Fight My Way” and don’t remember YR in them. 

Maybe I was distracted by Park Seo Yoon?!:innocent:

 

 

Richards Simmons is 71.

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2 hours ago, nhh said:

 

Me 3. Did you notice PYJ released a statement that she broke up with her bf morning after ep 8 (the ep where we know she's the one)? They met while shooting another drama too. I was so mind-blown :hushed:  like is she dating LSY for real lol. I cannot differentiate real and reel anymore because of this drama hahaha.

 

 

 

i just read about the break up. My guess is she really is into LSY. As you can see LSY is acting like LSY when the camera is not rolling. Eating the props, mingle with the staffs but her, her eyes is fixated on him. She is YR and YR is her

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They can check the cctv to see if Jung sun was pushed. I hope Jung sun charge YR with assault. We'll see if the Ha family will rally around YR.

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Part 3 of my ranting over this week's episodes/drama progression coming up...sounds like I'm trudging through mud...-_-

 

EDIT: Before I get started, though...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @Ameera Ali at your prediction/title for next week's episode!!!! FYI, here's my ending for YR (if it turns out that she did push JS down the stairs), as well as SJ (if he doesn't redeem himself, though I don't see how he could get out of his current predicament that he single-handedly caused), the VP, and Director Bae:

 

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Standard disclaimers aka apologies in advance:

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11 hours ago, TXviewer said:

@Maureen MckayOr is thematchmaker telling her to have a different frame of mind for considering her future spouse because she is the VPs daughter and should be thinkingof alliances instead. 
 

I believe different idea for future husband as a family alliance.
 

@razielaBut now in her new role as VP Ha's daughter it's obvious that being in a illicit relationship with an older, married illegitimate man from a poor background who is basically her father's dog will only continue to make her an outcast  in the circles she wants to fit into.

 

Definitely a problem that he is illegitimate. She maybe also, but her family line is rich and powerful.

 

 

Sorry for cutting your post, @TXviewer!

 

Off topic, I was going to replenish the missing sugar and flour that "that girl" (not me, I swear :sweatingbullets:) stole from you pantry, but then I decided to stock up and make hundreds, if not thousands, of cakes/cookies with rainbows and smiles for Christmas Eve and the drama finale next week. Guess we'll have to accost "that girl" to cough up the missing ingredients for your Christmas treats...:ph34r:

 

Back to the subject at hand: Both you, @Maureen Mckay, and @pixiebelle (and other Soompiers whom I forgot to credit here :sweatingbullets:) brought up plausible interpretations of the matchmaker's assessment of- and advice for- "Ha Yuri" vs. "Oh Yuri". As the VP's "daughter" and new "legitimate" family member (and heir?) of the affluent, corporate Ha family, there's no way that "Ha Yuri" can marry outside the Ha family's "official" marriage arrangement, let alone some married/soon-to-be-divorced(?) older man with no family connections who is a liability (for good or bad...(no) pun intended :P) as the VP's lapdog.

 

To add more salt to YR's wound (but some shred of delight for us Soompiers and viewers :D), YR has to compete with the other "real legitimate" heirs of the Ha family/corporate business, and she's being ostracized by her own "father" and the rest of the family gathering. So much for expecting the cakewalk into the "crazy rich Asians" lifestyle, YR.


 

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5 hours ago, pixiebelle said:

I don't think JungSun is pregnant but earlier post mentioned she may have some kind of stomach cancer like her mom - that could be a possibility as I wonder why her mom's section was introduced earlier in the drama.  If she is really pregnant, she will raise the child alone and will not reconcile with her unfaithful husband - how can she ever trust him again ?

I don't quite like the Sang Woo having a crush/romantic feelings for JS bit - it is  cliché - rich younger man pursuing her. JS is strong and independent enough to not need that handle.


The most satisfying scene for me from the last 2 episodes : when Park SJ mom gave him a good scolding and told him how he didn't know he has lost his whole world.

 

Sorry for cutting your post, @pixiebelle. As I stated above, I agree your deduction on the matchmaker's advice to YR regarding her marriage prospects as "Ha Yuri" as opposed to "Oh Yuri".

 

Also, I agree that JS's latent sickness could be a red herring for pregnancy. However, I did not think about the possibility of JS having stomach cancer like her mother did. Either way, I hope she doesn't get seriously injured or worse, have amnesia from the stairway fall (I doubt the screenwriter would be that sadistic and/or braindead to kill off JS from that fall :().

 

Now, SW is a far more decent, considerate person- and colleague- than SJ or YR, but I scoff at the idea of JS rebounding with SW. Given everything that JS is dealing with at work and with her marriage, JS needs substantial time to recover from the aftermath of all that drama ((no) pun intended, obviously) and learn to love and support herself before she considers pursuing a new relationship. Plus, I think that it's already sweet and admirable of SW to be concerned of JS as (first and foremost) his direct supervisor who has been kind and patient with his (adorable) blunders at work (like how she was with YR before finding about her role in SJ's affair, despite SJ's and HA's reminder for JS to stop constantly "babysitting" SW and/or YR when they need to be responsible for their own work). Nonetheless, SW's gratitude and acknowledgement of JS as his boss and colleague does NOT have to lead to a romantic relationship...just like SJ's empathy over YR's similar familial circumstances and financial woes does NOT (and should not :angry:) have to result in some (emotional, if not physical) affair.

 

And yes to SJ's mother scolding him about forsaking the one person who genuinely loved him (despite perhaps knowing all along about his familial circumstances? We'll have to see if JS already knew in the last two episodes) to make some meaning out of an otherwise misplaced pity/empathy toward an increasingly unstable, nasty ingrate whose "woe-is-me" tirade is grating on my (and most likely the Soompiers' and viewers') nerves!! Now, SJ's mother, beat the Richard Simmons out of YR, since JS got too much handful of SJ's past shady dealings with the VP to deal with that "doe-eyed" ingrate.

 

 

5 hours ago, liltash85 said:

Maybe it is just me but from the making video, i don't like the character of the actress that play YR. i see some similarity in her with YR. Like she is seducing LSY during shooting. hahaha

 

4 hours ago, 2good2btru said:

@liltash85 I can normally separate character from real life person playing the part but I was thinking the exact same thing! Lol I felt like her demeanor was very similar to her character YR. I was like, youre kinda friendly to LSY and a bit handsy. Umm no.  Lol

 

I also felt like she was trying too hard to make it look like off camera that she's close to JNR. As though theyre friends off screen and was constantly hanging on to her.  She's trying not to get hated on by JNR/JS fans but for me made it feel like she was doing what YR did. She used JS to help her and put on that innocent act.  I was like oooh you're too much like YR and not feeling you. Lol

 

Now now, @liltash85 and @2good2btru (and any other Soompiers and/or viewers thinking the same way about Pyo Yejin, the actress playing YR), let's cut some slack for the poor ole actress and say that she's pulling her A-game "method acting" on and off camera...gotta stay in character while interacting with the costars, amirite...:smirk:

 

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Personally, I'll hold my judgment on the "sincerity" of Pyo Yejin's interactions with Jang Nara, Lee Sangyoon, and other cast members. After all, we never know anybody's true selves and/or thoughts, be it celebrity, your own friends and family, or even yourself. Ask JS, who, after spending (more like wasting) 10 years of marriage with SJ, is just starting to realize what kind of person SJ has been at home and at work...

 

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As for YR the character...perhaps more experienced actresses, including Lee Chungah and Jang Nara herself, could have brought more poignancy and depth to YR's characterization than Pyo Yejin is doing right now, but it wouldn't deter my disgust at YR's ingratitude toward JS's (and the VIP team's) hospitality and intent on sabotaging JS's and SJ's marriage. I may have more to say about YR's characterization and trajectory, but I'll probably post them in my subsequent posts (most likely after the drama ends, but who knows).

 

That concludes Part 3 of my ranting of this week's episodes (and the overall drama progression).

 

Have a great weekend, Soompiers!

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Hi all-- in the short heart clenching ep 15 preview YURI says " what do I do?" call 911 B!!!!! Someone just fell a flight of stairs period.  Its always hot and steamy 10 seconds in for cheaters after that what do you really have in common-misery, lies, illegitimacy, pity, none are healthy emotions that sustainable.   The scene in ep 14 at the task force meeting where she is literally looking completely lost  and SJ sees her uselessness was priceless. The pity party may be coming to an end.  Best ending is our heroine JS lets go on her healing timeline and these two stay together but with a huge divide that haunts them for the rest of their lives.  Every time SJ sees anything good he will be reminded of the life he had built and destroyed all on his own with JS and realizes too late what he lost. Yuri in turn will have to be witness to his distance and fake smile.   I see JS hanging the baby mobile on her own in a room as a symbol of her new beginnings.

Just saying sigh....  

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1 hour ago, liltash85 said:

i just read about the break up. My guess is she really is into LSY. As you can see LSY is acting like LSY when the camera is not rolling. Eating the props, mingle with the staffs but her, her eyes is fixated on him. She is YR and YR is her

i know pyo ye jin as actress since the doctor (kim rae won,park shin ye drama), i watched her too in wolgyesu taylor (she met her ex in this drama), she got her first FL in drama love return (with Lee sung yeol-member of infinite). so far her acting cant impress me. but i never mind seeing her drama. 

she got many curses too because her role in vip. saw her name was above jnr in 10 buzzworthy actor/actress last week (she is no 3 jnr no4), so i think she will be nominated as best new coming actress in sbs drama award on 31 december. sometimes the award just based on ratings and popularity. i really hope jnr got daesang this year but her competitor is kim nam gil who popular and already got many awards this year through sbs  high rating drama fiery priest. but still hope sbs will give 2 daesang this year because last year sbs gived 2 daesang too. LOL

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4 hours ago, at2005 said:

As for PSJ character, I am not convinced what he did to his wife was for her own safety and good. He has been doing the dirty deeds for so long, why didn't he "think" for her then but only after she found out about his affair? I personally don't think his character was done right in term of storyline, directing and acting. This character has so much room to develope.

As I mentioned early on, this character has no moral compass. He is a con man. 

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4 hours ago, at2005 said:

Sorry to hear that. Each of us deals with stress differently. Some choose yoga (like watching happy comedy) while others choose kickboxing (like watching dramatic intense thriller). 

But I guess I have watched way too many years of dramas to let any of them affect me tremendously. Dramas teach us theories but life is where we practice them. I'd rather save the energy preparing for any hardships throw my way in real life.

 

I ache for NJS, admire HA for being strong and face her attacker, and happy for MN that she has a supportive husband. As for PSJ character, I am not convinced what he did to his wife was for her own safety and good. He has been doing the dirty deeds for so long, why didn't he "think" for her then but only after she found out about his affair? I personally don't think his character was done right in term of storyline, directing and acting. This character has so much room to develope.

I agree about his character.  Probably the lamest one ever written for a ml.  

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1 hour ago, KDramaLogic said:

 

Now, SW is a far more decent, considerate person- and colleague- than SJ or YR, but I scoff at the idea of JS rebounding with SW. Given everything that JS is dealing with at work and with her marriage, JS needs substantial time to recover from the aftermath of all that drama ((no) pun intended, obviously) and learn to love and support herself before she considers pursuing a new relationship

I agree whole heartedly!

 

1 hour ago, KDramaLogic said:

YR), let's cut some slack for the poor ole actress and say that she's pulling her A-game "method acting" on and off ca


Yes, please cut her some slack. She is not the person she’s playing. If it were me and I was acting with LSY I would be giddy.:rolleyes:

 

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6 hours ago, 2good2btru said:

@liltash85 I can normally separate character from real life person playing the part

 

 

 I also separate character from real life person except oppa :mrgreen: but I need to be extra careful now :joy: because  their is a breaking news that 
 

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4 minutes ago, Ameera Ali said:

 

 I also separate character from real life person except oppa :mrgreen: but I need to be extra careful now :joy: because  their is a breaking news that 
 

 


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Reminder 

- I have kept silent about this for quite long , but I think to be fair to Lee Sang Yoon’s fans here on Soompi ( and fans  of any other actors / actresses) pls separate character from actor . Actually on many other threads , I would have gotten a lot of reports on  the criticism / negative comments of the main lead’s acting or real life personality etc  , and that  would definitely have led to fan wars . I appreciate his fans here on Soompi for keeping cool about the less than favourable comments about their bias. If one of your biases received these kind of comments, it will hurt . 

- So I ask that we just focus on the characters in this drama . Please , even the young actress  playing YR is just doing her job & don’t read into the BTS too much  ( If you watch k dramas Long enough, you will realise  the BTS are just to boost ratings .)   Given the character she’s playing , the actress will naturally get hate from viewers ,  but for her it’s her job & a way to grow her career . Let’s not link her personal life to this drama . Don’t say groundless things , make speculations & snide remarks .

 

Thank you. :D

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