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  1. 1. Was there an affair?

    • No, there was no affair. It was one sided on Yoo Ri's part
    • Yes, there was an ongoing affair.
    • It was a one night stand.
  2. 2. The Conspiracy Theory

    • Yoo Ri is not the real daughter but the VP's mistress.
    • Sung Joon is doing this for his own gain ( to advance his career).
    • The VP hired Yoo Ri to destroy the Sung Joon - Jung Sun.
    • This is a high-end escort service.
    • There really is no conspiracy - just a marriage breaking down.

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  • Poll closed on 12/16/2019 at 01:50 PM

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3 hours ago, TXviewer said:


I would say that there is little hope for reconciliation. The look on JS’s face at the end says it all! Who are you?

It did my heart good to see the scene between Hyung Ah and Mr. Cha. So sweet together.

SW is adorable as well. 
The fall down the stairs....who knows?? But I believe it opened YR eyes as to whom SJ really loves.....and it ain’t her! But I don’t think she really cares who he loves as long as he stays with her.

I wonder if she will be waiting outside the prison walls for him with tofu.:lol:

 

 

I still haven't watched the episode but yeah, I don't think there will be any reconciliation between them and SJ knows it. That's why dude didn't bother begging her for a chance after that confrontation in their house and he starts to cry in his car. He screwed up big time, but as usual, SJ decides it's a good idea to continue to go down the wrong path:crazy:. He knew it was over. True, he loves JS in his own way but the damage is too much. Not to mention, it also explains why he didn't want JS to dig up stuff in the first place. 

 

One thing we can be sure off is the fact that SJ doesn't love YR at all and little twit knows it from the back of her mind. She will always be a second option and I'm happy about it lol:lol:. Not to mention, she is about to be humiliated in public and I'm gonna have my popcorn ready:rolleyes::smirk:

 

I'm happy for HA for getting a chance to be happy and meeting a good man. As MN, I hope she comes back to work and gets promoted after YR gets kicked out. She really worked hard...

 

@MrsSoJiSub It's better if the writer gives SJ perspective for the upcoming episode because I want to know how he got himself tangled up with VP money. Not to mention, I want him to stop lying to JS face and start talking because she has the right to know. JS doesn't even need to drag him to hell with her, he is already in. Now, I wonder if he was smart enough to have an evidence against the VP regarding the slush fund. VP needs to go to prison as well for this mess along with his daughter<_<. And his wife better bleed him dry of his money lol:lol:

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1 hour ago, Elmaas said:

So I was talking with a friend who watches this drama and she (too)pointed out that something’s fishy about the YR and SJ love affair *barf*. And I kinda agree with everyone who said this in the beginning. 

 

Here’s my evidence: After he tells JS that he’s done with the marriage in ep.8 and that he can’t come back from what he’s done- he goes and breaks down in his car. Why would someone who’s just gotten the chance to be with the person he’s madly in love with act like that? I mean, if that was me, I’d have called my man and ran into his arms the second I stepped out of the house. 

 

In ep.10 when him and his friend are having a heart to heart about the affair and he tells him why he fell for her, he never says that he’s in love with her. Just that he felt relieved that he finally could come clean to someone. 

 

And even now, he’s finally with her and everyone knows about them so why isn’t he more affectionate with her? Why didn’t he tell JS off when he saw her push down  his “beloved one”?It kinda feels that she’s always pushing for him to make a move and he just goes with the flow.

 

There’re more scenes beside these ones that make no sense to me now that I think about. 

 

 

With that said, I’m not saying that they didn’t have an affair. I still believe that he cheated on JS so whether he has real feeling for his hamsterfaced witch or not doesn’t really matter that much to me. But it makes watching this drama less traumatic(a bit too late though).  

 

You got your points here but not to forget that he indeed treat YR well and it shows that he indeed love her. Like @maribella said he did not afraid to show off their relationship and flaunt it to people around him. Protecting her. Holding her in his arms (i nvr seen him did this to NJS before they got married), staying by her side, holding her hands, spent a night with her, going to work together and the list goes on. If that is not act of love it’s either two things possible. The writer is bad at writing or Lee Sang Yoon is bad at acting. 

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The title of episodes are relevant. This one is called 'Out of the Maze' right? What is a maze? I been to a corn maze before and it was the most terrifying of experiences (granted it was Halloween themed as well). I got so lost and my sister and I had to play Marco-Polo to help guide our way out. SJ been lost in a maze. From the get go he's gotten himself deeper and deeper and I"m not sure if he can come out. But JS is now trapping herself in a maze (much like SJ. I wonder if this is how things began for him with the VP. I'll do for you and support you but you must also do for me. Then the requests of do from the VP got worse and worse and well, he got lost in its all). This offer of "support" from the president will come at a price. She's very much using JS and will throw her under the bus should things go south. SJ gave JS a very good warning, "don't get mixed up in the executive politics" because he knows from experience how easily one can get lost/trapped within it. The VP and his sister president are very much the spiders entrapping the flies that are JS and SJ into their webs. 

 

I am loving the side story of Mi Ah. We women work so hard all the time. Have so many demands made of us, and can never seem to live up to societies demands. We are always damned if we do, damned if we don't, and are forever held to almost impossible standards. It's so unfair that so much is expected of women/mothers. Like the little boy is fine with mom staying home, but dad would be a big no no because people would laugh at him. I feel so much for Mi Ah feeling like she has to pick her children/family over her career (that same pressure and expectations are not placed on her husband!). I'm happy the show is displaying many sexist notions, double standards, and misogynistic patriarchy. It’s showing how the above makes a person feel trapped, miserable, lonely, and like they have no direction. I'm glad she has a supportive husband who seems like he knows how she feels and will support/is trying to support whatever decision she makes. 

 

Mom, SJ knows exactly what he's lost. Trust. You ain't telling him anything he hasn't already known. SJ didn't want to lose it; but what can he do? He made his bed when he shook hands with the VP whatever years ago and now he must lay in it and burry himself alive. Hahahahahahahahah!! Yoo Ri knows too. Girl is insecure because he didn't choose her. When he had a choice, he chose his wife and that's when she played her hand of the text message. I cracked up at her playing go-fish and trying to astern SJ's feeling where JS is concerned with the whole SW bait. Revelations this ep had me thinking the whole YR really isn't the daughter but a part of the grand scheme not seem that far fetched. She like all other mistresses first encountered SJ when he was brining her an envelope of money. We know the VP's wife knows more than we think she knows and goes with much of it so long as it benefits her and doesn't hurt her. Many mistresses are involved in this whole funds thing and she knew and accepted it (that benefited her and didn't in anyway hurt cause it wasn't public knowledge.). VP wife was enraged at the illegitimate daughter angle because it's socially and publicly embarrassing. Was there ever a DNA test to confirm or deny who YR is. We know how low the VP is so I can see him plotting and charming people to go along with it. 

 

Next week gonna be good. I think we still have a lot to learn and unravel. SJ is such a cautionary tale. He brought all this onto himself and his wife, and for what...he did all this to himself for what? Lost his world for what??? I am glad JS is out of the maze in that she is starting to be shown all of SJ secrets and the morally shameful and illegal things he's done. I think all of that and not wanting her to go down with him (too late if Mr. Bae has anything to say about that and the pictures he has LOL). I wonder if he's finally ready to let her and us know everything, the truths of truths and that's why he comes to the house. The charade will finally end and he'll take off all his masks. In the words of Watchmen, "You can't heal under a mask. Wounds need air." Seeing how JS walks away, is it little too late for explanations and healing? (how great is it that he comes when she's taking out the trash). 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, DL Wetherill said:

 I think SJ may have feelings for YR but not love. Maybe pity or empathy but he doesn’t smile, or look happy or affectionate at all around her.

You don’t see the happy face he had with JS before YR came along.

I believe the woman that YR met and called Madam is just that a Madam ( head of an escort service) and YR was one of her girls. YR is unraveling and I’m going to be surprised if she didn’t push JS down the stairs. If so that and the affair with SJ and the VP is going to toss her to the wind. IMHO 

 

It's hard to tell what SJ is thinking since the actor hides it so well by his one expression look.

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2 hours ago, maribella said:

Whatever reasons that cause SJ to stick to YR, we have seen a lot of tender moments. Be it due to money or fear or bad memories, or her big boobs, he did feel strong emotions for her.

Sorry to cut your post...but this highlighted statement will go down in forum history. As a literature buff, I haven't read of a better way to get a point across. I will remember it fondly. Unfortunately, I will most probably being looking for them tonight as I watch the episode - kind of like a "find the hidden object(s)" puzzle.

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Can't find that part where Ma Sang woo revealed his identity. Was it episode 14?

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5 hours ago, 김진주 said:

I think YR who has the slush fund account now with SJ. 

It's not a slush fund. I think VP bought shares under SJ's and Mistress name basically to prepare himself to be the controlling shareholder. My understanding is that he already has a percentage of the shares but he needs a significant number of remaining shares to be a controlling shareholder and I don't think it's illegal.

 

SJ is caught between the woman he loves, JungSun and the girl he feel he wants to protect YuRi. Maybe SJ knows that YuRi is not VP's daughter. Whether YuRi is or isn't VP's daughter, we know that YuRi life's is hanging by a thread. We saw that she doesn't look happy at the family dinner and VP just brushed her off when she invites him to her mother's charnel house. YuRi will forever be an outsider. We see it quite often in other k-dramas how illegitimate child in chaebol families are treated. I don't see that it's love she has for SJ but he is that piece of thread she holding on to survive. 

 

Like I said before SJ has gone too deep with whatever he has done for the VP. Indeed he was ready to start afresh with JS after JS said she will try to forgive him. But many things have happened since and the last straw was when VP transferred JS to Ulsan branch. SJ knows very well how the VP operates and felt he needed to protect JS. I think he sacrifices himself and agreed to whatever deal that the VP put on the table. 

 

I hoping for a good ending for JS. Cheers!

 

 

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One thing good that the writer points out if this drama is the men who is imperfect and flawed (Byung Hoon, JinHo and Sang Woo) are much more of a man to their women as compared to a perfect man envied by many (PSJ). Meaning to say mediocre sometimes are better. :D

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Not much of ranting (for now...^_^)

 

11 minutes ago, monalisa said:

Can't find that part where Ma Sang woo revealed his identity. Was it episode 14?

 

Yes it was in today's episode when JS, SJ, SW, and YR were meeting with the matchmaker. Just before the matchmaker individually assessed SW and YR, she addressed SW's family background in front of JS, SJ and YR.

 

33 minutes ago, Takingthehighroad said:

Sorry to cut your post...but this highlighted statement will go down in forum history. As a literature buff, I haven't read of a better way to get a point across. I will remember it fondly. Unfortunately, I will most probably being looking for them tonight as I watch the episode - kind of like a "find the hidden object(s)" puzzle.

 

Let us know if you find any "bigger boobs" or other odd ends in this "hidden-object" puzzle.

 

Oh, and pass on the message to SJ and YR (and the VP), if they still have a brain (if not their conscience):

 

Spoiler

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Not sure how it makes sense in this drama context, but I thought it's something they ought to know or think about...^_^

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I was trying to work out the husband's attitude, he isnt supporting his wife, yet is concerned about her, supports the mistress yet isnt in love with her although he knows she is with him, doesnt walk away from the CEO although knows what a danger he is. 

 

I am wondering if he knows how deep he is and he threw himself under the bus for lack of a better word thinking he would protect his wife, well he hurt her more than anything and she is finding out more skeletons now than ever before so it backfired if that was the writers plan.

 

Don't know but as a marriage he has withdrawn, and it doesnt strike me as guilt.  Its coming across more as protective nature.  Dont know maybe next week will reveal more.

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You have to give the writer and director credit; they are driving the audience crazy.  We love Jung Soon, hate Yuri, and are so frustrated by SJ's flat affect.  I think all of this is very intentional.  LSY's so called "bad acting" is giving very few hints of his inner thinking.  He has the fewest lines of any character and if we could figure out what is going on with him, we could figure out this drama, BUT writer and director don't want us to figure it out until the very end.  Thus, LSY may not get an acting award, but he is doing exactly what the director wants: keeping us in suspense about his motives and real feelings until the last week.  We only have one more week, so I guess they all succeeded.

 

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Don't know but as a marriage he has withdrawn, and it doesnt strike me as guilt.  Its coming across more as protective nature.  Dont know maybe next week will reveal more.

Next week better reveal everything since it’s the end of the series. If not there is going to a lot of us “lying on the therapist’s couch” or getting our Blood Pressure meds raised lol.

 

18 minutes ago, DL Wetherill said:

Don't know but as a marriage he has withdrawn, and it doesnt strike me as guilt.  Its coming across more as protective nature.  Dont know maybe next week will reveal more.

Next week better reveal everything since it’s the end of the series. If not there is going to a lot of us “lying on the therapist’s couch” or getting our Blood Pressure meds raised lol.

Sorry the first paragraph is Fragglerock’s quote and some how I didn’t get it in quotes...my apologies.

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3 hours ago, DL Wetherill said:

 I think SJ may have feelings for YR but not love. Maybe pity or empathy but he doesn’t smile, or look happy or affectionate at all around her.

You don’t see the happy face he had with JS before YR came along.

I believe the woman that YR met and called Madam is just that a Madam ( head of an escort service) and YR was one of her girls. YR is unraveling and I’m going to be surprised if she didn’t push JS down the stairs. If so that and the affair with SJ and the VP is going to toss her to the wind. IMHO 

I was thinking this today...what if the one to bring dawn SJ and VP is actually Yuri...with her crazy behaviour and lies it cal all backfire at her...that would be supper cool...and because of this SJ , JS and the rest of team VIP would have to try to rescue the companie...that would be so much great and fun...that Yuri would be the one to bring down VP and all his plan to conquer the one mayor spot at the companie....

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4 hours ago, raziela said:

[+1722, -40] Lee Sang Yoon’s acting = ( •᷄_•᷅ ) Love ( •᷄_•᷅ ) Anger ( •᷄_•᷅ ) Compassion ( •᷄_•᷅ ) Greed ( •᷄_•᷅ ) Ambition..

[+1316, -51] Lee Sang Yoon ~ While watching ‘On the Way to the Airport’, I thought he fitted melo well and his acting was alright.. As I watch him, his expressions are all the same.. His facial muscles do not move much and an expression is not too different from the other.. His acting is so frustrating that it gives off the ‘fresh’ feel while watching VIP.

[+1202, -52] Park Sung Joon and On Yuri are disgusting couple. And how many has it been since Lee Sang Yoon began acting that he is tired of acting to give off such bad acting. All his expressions are sullen and stoic. I will laugh if he gets an award just because VIP ratings are high.

 

Omg, Knetz are savage! LSY's acting hasn't always been this bad. He was decent on Twenty Again and Liar Game. Knowing his insecurities as an actor after seeing him in Master of the House made me feel sorry for the guy. Perhaps the stage direction is be as emotionless and frustrating as possible because that's just the way SJ is written.

 

As for the big reveal, it's not so much a revelation but a confirmation. The only new information is that he's in on monopolizing the company's shares which is somewhat surprising. The drama made him out to be this decent hard-working guy who wants to live an honest life because his mother was ostracize by his father's family. So was he driven by greed all along?

 

I empathized with JS so much because we don't really know who SJ is until now. I have to say, it's a bit disappointing to know he really is a piece of trash because deep down inside, I thought he's still a fundamentally a good person who momentarily lost his moral compass. But perhaps it was never there.

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I love Lee Sang Yoon and I think he’s being directed to have “flat affect” so we are totally confused by his motives and has us hanging on the edge of our seats. Mission accomplished Lee Sang Yoon. Even though I love LSY his portrayal of this character has made me forget that and instead I want to slap him silly. That’s good acting in my book.

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I’m honestly disappointed in VIP. Real talk, episode 14 was the content that I came for: JS going toe to toe with SJ. JS unapologetically displaying her BAMF, showing she’s the true top dog of the VIP (cause she is) and that she can and will take down all of them just like that! I finally get it.....and there’s just two episodes left :confused: 

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I've been following this drama from Day 1 and all I can say is it's getting exciting every episode. I feel bad for JS. I think the last 4 episodes will all be about revelations and I think SJ will come back to his senses after JS has been badly hurt. As for YR, because of her greed she will be ostracized by people and go far away from JS and SJ couple. I think JS might be pregnant. 

 

 

I don't want them to go back with each other but I think this is how will the drama will end. 

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2 hours ago, liltash85 said:

You got your points here but not to forget that he indeed treat YR well and it shows that he indeed love her. Like @maribella said he did not afraid to show off their relationship and flaunt it to people around him. Protecting her. Holding her in his arms (i nvr seen him did this to NJS before they got married), staying by her side, holding her hands, spent a night with her, going to work together and the list goes on. If that is not act of love it’s either two things possible. The writer is bad at writing or Lee Sang Yoon is bad at acting. 

Don’t blame please, sometimes viewers tend to avoid or unable to accepts storylines or important scenes especially for YR and SJ, so it’s ok chill ( I am one of the viewers LOL)

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