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[Drama 2019] V.I.P, 브이아이피


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  1. 1. Was there an affair?

    • No, there was no affair. It was one sided on Yoo Ri's part
    • Yes, there was an ongoing affair.
    • It was a one night stand.
  2. 2. The Conspiracy Theory

    • Yoo Ri is not the real daughter but the VP's mistress.
    • Sung Joon is doing this for his own gain ( to advance his career).
    • The VP hired Yoo Ri to destroy the Sung Joon - Jung Sun.
    • This is a high-end escort service.
    • There really is no conspiracy - just a marriage breaking down.

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5 hours ago, 김진주 said:

I think YR who has the slush fund account now with SJ. 

It's not a slush fund. I think VP bought shares under SJ's and Mistress name basically to prepare himself to be the controlling shareholder. My understanding is that he already has a percentage of the shares but he needs a significant number of remaining shares to be a controlling shareholder and I don't think it's illegal.

 

SJ is caught between the woman he loves, JungSun and the girl he feel he wants to protect YuRi. Maybe SJ knows that YuRi is not VP's daughter. Whether YuRi is or isn't VP's daughter, we know that YuRi life's is hanging by a thread. We saw that she doesn't look happy at the family dinner and VP just brushed her off when she invites him to her mother's charnel house. YuRi will forever be an outsider. We see it quite often in other k-dramas how illegitimate child in chaebol families are treated. I don't see that it's love she has for SJ but he is that piece of thread she holding on to survive. 

 

Like I said before SJ has gone too deep with whatever he has done for the VP. Indeed he was ready to start afresh with JS after JS said she will try to forgive him. But many things have happened since and the last straw was when VP transferred JS to Ulsan branch. SJ knows very well how the VP operates and felt he needed to protect JS. I think he sacrifices himself and agreed to whatever deal that the VP put on the table. 

 

I hoping for a good ending for JS. Cheers!

 

 

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One thing good that the writer points out if this drama is the men who is imperfect and flawed (Byung Hoon, JinHo and Sang Woo) are much more of a man to their women as compared to a perfect man envied by many (PSJ). Meaning to say mediocre sometimes are better. :D

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Not much of ranting (for now...^_^)

 

11 minutes ago, monalisa said:

Can't find that part where Ma Sang woo revealed his identity. Was it episode 14?

 

Yes it was in today's episode when JS, SJ, SW, and YR were meeting with the matchmaker. Just before the matchmaker individually assessed SW and YR, she addressed SW's family background in front of JS, SJ and YR.

 

33 minutes ago, Takingthehighroad said:

Sorry to cut your post...but this highlighted statement will go down in forum history. As a literature buff, I haven't read of a better way to get a point across. I will remember it fondly. Unfortunately, I will most probably being looking for them tonight as I watch the episode - kind of like a "find the hidden object(s)" puzzle.

 

Let us know if you find any "bigger boobs" or other odd ends in this "hidden-object" puzzle.

 

Oh, and pass on the message to SJ and YR (and the VP), if they still have a brain (if not their conscience):

 

Spoiler

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Not sure how it makes sense in this drama context, but I thought it's something they ought to know or think about...^_^

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I was trying to work out the husband's attitude, he isnt supporting his wife, yet is concerned about her, supports the mistress yet isnt in love with her although he knows she is with him, doesnt walk away from the CEO although knows what a danger he is. 

 

I am wondering if he knows how deep he is and he threw himself under the bus for lack of a better word thinking he would protect his wife, well he hurt her more than anything and she is finding out more skeletons now than ever before so it backfired if that was the writers plan.

 

Don't know but as a marriage he has withdrawn, and it doesnt strike me as guilt.  Its coming across more as protective nature.  Dont know maybe next week will reveal more.

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You have to give the writer and director credit; they are driving the audience crazy.  We love Jung Soon, hate Yuri, and are so frustrated by SJ's flat affect.  I think all of this is very intentional.  LSY's so called "bad acting" is giving very few hints of his inner thinking.  He has the fewest lines of any character and if we could figure out what is going on with him, we could figure out this drama, BUT writer and director don't want us to figure it out until the very end.  Thus, LSY may not get an acting award, but he is doing exactly what the director wants: keeping us in suspense about his motives and real feelings until the last week.  We only have one more week, so I guess they all succeeded.

 

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Don't know but as a marriage he has withdrawn, and it doesnt strike me as guilt.  Its coming across more as protective nature.  Dont know maybe next week will reveal more.

Next week better reveal everything since it’s the end of the series. If not there is going to a lot of us “lying on the therapist’s couch” or getting our Blood Pressure meds raised lol.

 

18 minutes ago, DL Wetherill said:

Don't know but as a marriage he has withdrawn, and it doesnt strike me as guilt.  Its coming across more as protective nature.  Dont know maybe next week will reveal more.

Next week better reveal everything since it’s the end of the series. If not there is going to a lot of us “lying on the therapist’s couch” or getting our Blood Pressure meds raised lol.

Sorry the first paragraph is Fragglerock’s quote and some how I didn’t get it in quotes...my apologies.

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3 hours ago, DL Wetherill said:

 I think SJ may have feelings for YR but not love. Maybe pity or empathy but he doesn’t smile, or look happy or affectionate at all around her.

You don’t see the happy face he had with JS before YR came along.

I believe the woman that YR met and called Madam is just that a Madam ( head of an escort service) and YR was one of her girls. YR is unraveling and I’m going to be surprised if she didn’t push JS down the stairs. If so that and the affair with SJ and the VP is going to toss her to the wind. IMHO 

I was thinking this today...what if the one to bring dawn SJ and VP is actually Yuri...with her crazy behaviour and lies it cal all backfire at her...that would be supper cool...and because of this SJ , JS and the rest of team VIP would have to try to rescue the companie...that would be so much great and fun...that Yuri would be the one to bring down VP and all his plan to conquer the one mayor spot at the companie....

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4 hours ago, raziela said:

[+1722, -40] Lee Sang Yoon’s acting = ( •᷄_•᷅ ) Love ( •᷄_•᷅ ) Anger ( •᷄_•᷅ ) Compassion ( •᷄_•᷅ ) Greed ( •᷄_•᷅ ) Ambition..

[+1316, -51] Lee Sang Yoon ~ While watching ‘On the Way to the Airport’, I thought he fitted melo well and his acting was alright.. As I watch him, his expressions are all the same.. His facial muscles do not move much and an expression is not too different from the other.. His acting is so frustrating that it gives off the ‘fresh’ feel while watching VIP.

[+1202, -52] Park Sung Joon and On Yuri are disgusting couple. And how many has it been since Lee Sang Yoon began acting that he is tired of acting to give off such bad acting. All his expressions are sullen and stoic. I will laugh if he gets an award just because VIP ratings are high.

 

Omg, Knetz are savage! LSY's acting hasn't always been this bad. He was decent on Twenty Again and Liar Game. Knowing his insecurities as an actor after seeing him in Master of the House made me feel sorry for the guy. Perhaps the stage direction is be as emotionless and frustrating as possible because that's just the way SJ is written.

 

As for the big reveal, it's not so much a revelation but a confirmation. The only new information is that he's in on monopolizing the company's shares which is somewhat surprising. The drama made him out to be this decent hard-working guy who wants to live an honest life because his mother was ostracize by his father's family. So was he driven by greed all along?

 

I empathized with JS so much because we don't really know who SJ is until now. I have to say, it's a bit disappointing to know he really is a piece of trash because deep down inside, I thought he's still a fundamentally a good person who momentarily lost his moral compass. But perhaps it was never there.

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I love Lee Sang Yoon and I think he’s being directed to have “flat affect” so we are totally confused by his motives and has us hanging on the edge of our seats. Mission accomplished Lee Sang Yoon. Even though I love LSY his portrayal of this character has made me forget that and instead I want to slap him silly. That’s good acting in my book.

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I’m honestly disappointed in VIP. Real talk, episode 14 was the content that I came for: JS going toe to toe with SJ. JS unapologetically displaying her BAMF, showing she’s the true top dog of the VIP (cause she is) and that she can and will take down all of them just like that! I finally get it.....and there’s just two episodes left :confused: 

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I've been following this drama from Day 1 and all I can say is it's getting exciting every episode. I feel bad for JS. I think the last 4 episodes will all be about revelations and I think SJ will come back to his senses after JS has been badly hurt. As for YR, because of her greed she will be ostracized by people and go far away from JS and SJ couple. I think JS might be pregnant. 

 

 

I don't want them to go back with each other but I think this is how will the drama will end. 

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2 hours ago, liltash85 said:

You got your points here but not to forget that he indeed treat YR well and it shows that he indeed love her. Like @maribella said he did not afraid to show off their relationship and flaunt it to people around him. Protecting her. Holding her in his arms (i nvr seen him did this to NJS before they got married), staying by her side, holding her hands, spent a night with her, going to work together and the list goes on. If that is not act of love it’s either two things possible. The writer is bad at writing or Lee Sang Yoon is bad at acting. 

Don’t blame please, sometimes viewers tend to avoid or unable to accepts storylines or important scenes especially for YR and SJ, so it’s ok chill ( I am one of the viewers LOL)

my two favourite actors

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Well, there is a possibility YR didn't push JS from the stairs....She has a kind of "illness" maybe she fainted near the stairs and fell down...The location of that flights of stairs is in full views of people, it's almost impossible for YR to did it unseen....

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10 minutes ago, eimjhae said:

I've been following this drama from Day 1 and all I can say is it's getting exciting every episode. I feel bad for JS. I think the last 4 episodes will all be about revelations and I think SJ will come back to his senses after JS has been badly hurt. As for YR, because of her greed she will be ostracized by people and go far away from JS and SJ couple. I think JS might be pregnant. 

 

 

I don't want them to go back with each other but I think this is how will the drama will end. 

I want them to reconcile & forgive each other...just nice for Christmas

 

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It could be that YR tried to run after JS and pull her back for longer chitchat because she wasn't done with JS. While JS tried to brush her off and slipped then fell down the stairs. Or YR went ballistic after JS told her to f off as it was none of her business whether JS should or shouldn't sign the darn divorce so she chased after JS and impulsively did the most stupid thing of pushing JS down the stairs in front of other peeps. 

 

After the 14 eps I do not want any reconciliation between the two main characters. They would probably make it an open ending with:

-SW courting JS and JS not yet accepting

-VP & SJ lost everything and get locked up behind bars

-YR too lost everything and goes back to the low pay job.

 

I do like the idea of the VIP women going freelance and forming a consulting firm to the VIP or to customers wanting to become the VIP

 

PS. Saw the question/comment somewhere and my response to that is "it is just bad acting". The only muscles that are still working on that face are the eyelids' ones (not counting eyelid muscle spasm)

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4 hours ago, lu09 said:

Now, I wonder if he was smart enough to have an evidence against the VP regarding the slush fund. VP needs to go to prison as well for this mess along with his daughter<_<. And his wife better bleed him dry of his money lol:lol:

I am sure SJ knew he had to cover himself or else he would have to take the fall for the VP in the event the secret money was revealed.  He is a smart man business wise.  Just stupid when it comes to Yuri. :crazy:

 

4 hours ago, liltash85 said:

You got your points here but not to forget that he indeed treat YR well and it shows that he indeed love her. Like @maribella said he did not afraid to show off their relationship and flaunt it to people around him. Protecting her. Holding her in his arms (i nvr seen him did this to NJS before they got married), staying by her side, holding her hands, spent a night with her, going to work together and the list goes on. If that is not act of love it’s either two things possible. The writer is bad at writing or Lee Sang Yoon is bad at acting. 

SJ treated Yuri differently because she is a different person than JS and was always needing his support and protection.  She was weak and always crying over something.  Poor girl had a tough life.  She only had her mother who was dying and had been sick for 10 years.  She was also illegitimate, the same as he was.  They are kindred spirits who developed a bond based on similar circumstances and connected with each other.  SJ said when he saw that woman his heart would hurt.  Doesn't mean he loves her it means he hurts for her because of her situation. He understands and feels her pain because he also went through that. He made a mistake with Yuri, the day his father died.  Afterwards,  he felt guilty and shameless and did not want JS to find out.  He had no intention of leaving JS for Yuri.  (Yuri forced his hand on this though by sending the text. ) SJ loves JS, who is a beautiful, smart and capable woman who does not need to be coddled to every moment of every day. She is strong and can take care of herself.  Because she is strong he doesn't feel the need to hold her and protect her the same way he does Yuri.  He is actually in awe of JS and could not believe his luck when she liked him.  Even his mother said in ep. 14 that JS was his whole world.  Seeing his reaction in the preview for ep. 15 is the first time JS has shown his true feelings.  He has been hiding his feelings the entire drama.  He is hurting and will blame himself for this happening to JS.  I don't know if Yuri pushed JS or if JS possibly pulled away from Yuri then fell, but either way, it finally provoked a real response from SJ.  I am hoping that JS is hurt and unconscious for a couple of days so that SJ will stay with her and not leave the hospital.  That should be enough to get Yuri out of the picture.  Once JS wakes up, SJ can beg for forgiveness.  As I have said before, as much as I hate what he and Yuri have done, I want him to be with JS in end.  

 

Everyone's talking about LSY's bad acting.  His acting is on point with what the Writer and Director wanted.  He was chosen specifically for this part due to his ability to have a non expressive face.  That was said in the VIP interview by the Director.  They didn't want someone that didn't know how to hide their emotions.  He is doing a fantastic job of hiding his feelings and making all of wonder what he is thinking.  Excellent Job LSY!!

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How can it be bad acting if that’s exactly what the director wants? Just because a character is created to have bland expression, it doesn’t mean that the actor is bad in acting out that unlikeable bland expression. In real life, there are actually people who go around their life with such bland expressions. I will only say an actor cannot act if, for every character he takes on in various dramas, he only shows that same expression forever. Here, LSY is PSJ, a man of few words with sullen bland face. I have seen LSY in many dramas and he can act as different characters. 

 

Anyway, why was YR rather shaken with the matchmaker interview... My thought is that she is being reminded to think of her potential married partner with her position as Ha Yu Ri, not as Ohn Yu Ri. I think it is dawning on her that PSJ isn’t a person that her new family will approve. So she became conflicted.

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So as always, I'm late to the party. Hehe  I'm finally watching episode 14 and I'm at the scene where SJ is talking to mommy.  And I looooove her!  She had me bawling like a baby and I love her! Lol

 

I was yelling.. tell him momma.. tell him! If her words didn't have any impact on him he's dead inside.  Shoot I even felt sorry for him too, after what she said sunk in.  I was like you poor fellow,  you royally $%^! yourself. After confronting him about seeing someone else and getting the same answer as JS, head bowed and looking guilty she has a little emotional breakdown,  in disbelief that he would do such a thing. Then she calms down and in a resigned tone, lays down some Yoda wisdom and fortelling of what's to come! She tells him, "you don't know what you've done,  otherwise you wouldn't have done it.  You think this moment of passion is love right now.  That even though you know it's fire you jump in anyways. But in that moment,  you lost a whole world, because of what you felt at that moment.  Right now,  you don't know what you've lost. "

 

When she says you lost your world,  she's talking about SJ. She said that when he first brought her home,  she was relieved.  Not only because she was kind and gentle,  but she looked like she meant the world to him! 

 

I whole heartedly agree with his mama's words.  He got caught up in the moment,  in the heat of passion, regardless of what he was doing for VP, this was outside of that. He stumbled and wavered from his wife on his own.   Their troubles and hardships were too much to bear and YR redirected his thoughts, and also gave him the attention and affection he was not currently getting from his wife. What a cop out and worst mistake he will ever make!!!  But whatever he and YR had was just that.. a moment.  He will realize this soon enough, and just what he's lost because when it hits him, we will know because, it will bring him to his knees!!!

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To me find, he cheated the first time coz he feels ‘needy’ and get that attention from YR. ok, fine he cheated and he realized his mistake and wants to end it. What makes me MAd n think he crossed the line and is cruel to JS is when he chose YR again for the second time and openly admit to everyone that he wants to be by her side. Like WTF??? Didn’t he already determined to end things and start back with JS. He even try hard to deny few times when JS find about the affair earlier. What makes YR is so special that when her mother died he suddenly decided to be by her side, protect her, move in with her and keep hurting JS in public, in front of his friends. If he did that out of sympathy and not because of love, I seriously cannot understand what is the writer wants to convey to us. 

 

to me He loves YR. as for JS he may still love her but at this point of time his feelings of love is greater for YR not JS. Since her mother died never once he ever denied YR request. He even gave the feelings that he and JS going to get a divorce hence YR is so confident telling her father abt it. 
 

 

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