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  1. 1. Was there an affair?

    • No, there was no affair. It was one sided on Yoo Ri's part
    • Yes, there was an ongoing affair.
    • It was a one night stand.
  2. 2. The Conspiracy Theory

    • Yoo Ri is not the real daughter but the VP's mistress.
    • Sung Joon is doing this for his own gain ( to advance his career).
    • The VP hired Yoo Ri to destroy the Sung Joon - Jung Sun.
    • This is a high-end escort service.
    • There really is no conspiracy - just a marriage breaking down.

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1 hour ago, DL Wetherill said:

 

SJ looks frantic seeing JS lying there...he definitely loves her but is it too late?


I would say that there is little hope for reconciliation. The look on JS’s face at the end says it all! Who are you?

It did my heart good to see the scene between Hyung Ah and Mr. Cha. So sweet together.

SW is adorable as well. 
The fall down the stairs....who knows?? But I believe it opened YR eyes as to whom SJ really loves.....and it ain’t her! But I don’t think she really cares who he loves as long as he stays with her.

I wonder if she will be waiting outside the prison walls for him with tofu.:lol:

 

 

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3 minutes ago, TXviewer said:


I would say that there is little hope for reconciliation. The look on JS’s face at the end says it all! Who are you?

It did my heart good to see the scene between Hyung Ah and Mr. Cha. So sweet together.

SW is adorable as well. 
The fall down the stairs....who knows?? But I believe it opened YR eyes as to whom SJ really loves.....and it ain’t her! But I don’t think she really cares who he loves as long as he stays with her.

I wonder if she will be waiting outside the prison walls for him with tofu.:lol:

 

 

I’m not sure if she’s pregnant that may be a game changer for JS. Besides it airs on Christmas Eve so I think anything is possible.

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4 hours ago, partyon said:

From the latest episodes (that I haven't watched yet, only read recaps) I am convinced she is pregnant. When she falls or is pushed down the stairs, SJ will find out she is pregnant or has lost their baby. I REALLY REALLY hope that she doesn't lose another baby... :(

 

That (I think) will be turning point of this story. We will see SJ's plot line make a 180 degree turn, and he will realize how low he has sunk in the dangerous game he's playing.

 

Like @MrsSoJiSub I have been from the start on the side that SJ still loves JS deeply, and that what he has with YR is something much different.

 

Then I could be wrong (I often am), but since both the script writer and the director are women, I am sure that in the end JS will get her justice (either together with SJ or without him) !!! :)

But the scriptwriter might be a woman who wants to make us have some pity towards mistresses. Just look how she made YR such a pitiful character who cry every time. Bringing the injustice of her upbringing, sick mother so on and so forth. The other mistress is SJ mom. A nice lady  who suffered for being a mistress (and she made the first wife child looks like a bad man screaming in hospital and punching SJ). I can somehow see she is trying to create a different perception on mistress. That’s what I thought at least from what she is giving us now. 

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5 hours ago, TXviewer said:

@Kimsungrin

 

You may have something there. Maybe that will be what ultimately will bring them back together. The fall and a baby? (ok y’all don’t yell at me too loud) I’m just trying to put this thing together someway.

 

Cookies are in the oven. It almost smells like Christmas. Now, if Santa will bring me a twist to this whole mess that seems like it’s “just an affair drama.“

 

Hahahaha! Someone noted a few pages back that the final ep will be on Christmas Eve...i LOLed cause i foresaw myself watching the final no matter what... Sad lol

I think she might not want SJ involved with the child (and actually telling him about it as late as possible or not and let him find out the hard way..) even more because of the shares bought by him for the VP. But, in fact, after watching the ep subbed and understanding the things that i didnt without sub (the shares part mostly) i think she will hesitate about completly expose him. Exposing him will save her tho, cause if the shares scam get exposed while she is still married with him and the affair is still not known by everyone, she might get in trouble too as an accomplice since she is his wife (it will get exposed anyway since Director bae knows about the affair at least).. it may be why SJ wants to cut ties with her...Like it was said before, she does say to SJ that she wants to ruin him and YR, that she will gladly go to hell with him if it means that he will go but she is not that firm about destroying him when she talks about it to others, even tho she did say they were over emotionally but still tied on paper.

 

I just thought about YR asking SJ if he doesnt think that SW cares in a special way about JS..that maybe he likes her..like they could laugh about it as if SJ and JS marriage meant nothing....the girl is out there really thinking that she can brush off a 10 year long marriage..the nerve!

 

Because SJ cried in her arms about the real story about his father she thinks she owns the world and that she knows everything...Little does she know that she is having an affair with a married man that betrayed his wife who has been having a hard time after a miscarriage...i saw myself breaking all the glasses in my house a dozen times watching this BS

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Whatever reasons that cause SJ to stick to YR, we have seen a lot of tender moments. Be it due to money or fear or bad memories, or her big boobs, he did feel strong emotions for her. The writer spelt it out, spouted it from his mouth. 
 

Ergo, I am  absolutely not amused and will definitely put another hex on the writer and PD if they return JS and the one expression jerk back together. 
 

If JS turned out to be pregnant, this will be a record for me, right-on-the-target prediction after oodles of misses. I am sure it will make a woman in her situation very happy. A friend told me, men come and go, your children are always yours.

 

My previous correct predictions were in the 'unknown woman'. That was a hilariously funny drama. Yes a drama. :joy: I still find it funny.

 

@kl11 not possible, JS' mother's man is old, he is poor.
 

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So I was talking with a friend who watches this drama and she (too)pointed out that something’s fishy about the YR and SJ love affair *barf*. And I kinda agree with everyone who said this in the beginning. 

 

Here’s my evidence: After he tells JS that he’s done with the marriage in ep.8 and that he can’t come back from what he’s done- he goes and breaks down in his car. Why would someone who’s just gotten the chance to be with the person he’s madly in love with act like that? I mean, if that was me, I’d have called my man and ran into his arms the second I stepped out of the house. 

 

In ep.10 when him and his friend are having a heart to heart about the affair and he tells him why he fell for her, he never says that he’s in love with her. Just that he felt relieved that he finally could come clean to someone. 

 

And even now, he’s finally with her and everyone knows about them so why isn’t he more affectionate with her? Why didn’t he tell JS off when he saw her push down  his “beloved one”?It kinda feels that she’s always pushing for him to make a move and he just goes with the flow.

 

There’re more scenes beside these ones that make no sense to me now that I think about. 

 

 

With that said, I’m not saying that they didn’t have an affair. I still believe that he cheated on JS so whether he has real feeling for his hamsterfaced witch or not doesn’t really matter that much to me. But it makes watching this drama less traumatic(a bit too late though).  

 

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8 hours ago, MrsSoJiSub said:

I don’t believe SJ is in love with YR. not for one second was or is that man in love with her. Noooope. Nothing in this drama has convinced me of such. I believe SJ put himself in some serious doo doo, he knew could bring his wife down in (remember, she a chabeol in her own right) more ways than just her perception of him . Like many a kdrama characters before him, although it may not be what he wants and it’s been destroying everything; “he’s come too far to turn back now.” He dug a hole and is determined to burry just himself. The mans knows how dangerous VP can be when he chooses. All this stuff right or wrong, fair or not in his mind was for JS own good. JS kept talking about walking in pits of fire. SJ has been in that pit and was determined to keep JS out and she keeps walking further and further in. Causing many a hiccups. I truly wonder what SJ’s original plan was. We know he was committed to JS (hence YR sending the text). What were his original plans? What was he going to do? If YR never sent that text, was SJ like JS in the first episode umbrella scene; desired to live a simple life together, grow old, have kids. Did he ever plan to cut cords with VP...what was everyone’s original plans? Cause it wasn’t this. The text jacked things up for everyone, so what were their original plots/schemes? 

 

I looooove JS. What a woman. She has shown so much grace through this all, but also a fierceness that I admire. I adore seeing her and SJ going head to head. They are both equally intelligent and capable. The clips of them going toe to toe in meetings were the best. I want more. Destroy him JS....or is she trying to save him from the VP’s clutches..... 

I wanna too..what was everyone original plans?

 

But i do think SJ has feelings for YR. I didn't believe it at first but JS sensed it and after that all of his actions proved it.....when he tried to justify his doings by putting the blame on miscarriage-suffering JS...i could have eaten him...

 

it still is unbelievable, totally unexpected and sooo the opposite of what we got on the first eps..i really dont understand..

 

This drama should have been a weekend drama of a minimum 50 eps

 

3 hours ago, Elmaas said:

So I was talking with a friend who watches this drama and she (too)pointed out that something’s fishy about the YR and SJ love affair *barf*. And I kinda agree with everyone who said this in the beginning. 

 

Here’s my evidence: After he tells JS that he’s done with the marriage in ep.8 and that he can’t come back from what he’s done- he goes and breaks down in his car. Why would someone who’s just gotten the chance to be with the person he’s madly in love with act like that? I mean, if that was me, I’d have called my man and ran into his arms the second I stepped out of the house. 

 

In ep.10 when him and his friend are having a heart to heart about the affair and he tells him why he fell for her, he never says that he’s in love with her. Just that he felt relieved that he finally could come clean to someone. 

 

And even now, he’s finally with her and everyone knows about them so why isn’t he more affectionate with her? Why didn’t he tell JS off when he saw her push down  his “beloved one”?It kinda feels that she’s always pushing for him to make a move and he just goes with the flow.

 

There’re more scenes beside these ones that make no sense to me now that I think about. 

 

 

With that said, I’m not saying that they didn’t have an affair. I still believe that he cheated on JS so whether he has real feeling for his hamsterfaced witch or not doesn’t really matter that much to me. But it makes watching this drama less traumatic(a bit too late though).  

 

 

Maybe he really asked for divorce because of the shares scam and to protect her...or maybe he wouldnt have left her if she didnt found out about the affair and cant face her now but he still cheated and cared at some point about YR...breaks my heart everytime we see him supporting YR while JS is alone 

 

5 hours ago, DL Wetherill said:

I’m not sure if she’s pregnant that may be a game changer for JS. Besides it airs on Christmas Eve so I think anything is possible.

 

OMG that was hilarious hahaha! Anything is possible on Christmas Eve lol you are so cute

 

4 hours ago, liltash85 said:

But the scriptwriter might be a woman who wants to make us have some pity towards mistresses. I can somehow see she is trying to create a different perception on mistress. 

 

Yeah and that is not working Writer-nim

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11 minutes ago, Kimsungrin said:

I wanna too..what was everyone original plans?

 

But i do think SJ has feelings for YR. I didn't believe it at first but JS sensed it and after that all of his actions proved it.....when he tried to justify his doings by putting the blame on miscarriage-suffering JS...i could have eaten him...

 

it still is unbelievable, totally unexpected and sooo the opposite of what we got on the first eps..i really dont understand..

 

This drama should have been a weekend drama of a minimum 50 eps

 I think SJ may have feelings for YR but not love. Maybe pity or empathy but he doesn’t smile, or look happy or affectionate at all around her.

You don’t see the happy face he had with JS before YR came along.

I believe the woman that YR met and called Madam is just that a Madam ( head of an escort service) and YR was one of her girls. YR is unraveling and I’m going to be surprised if she didn’t push JS down the stairs. If so that and the affair with SJ and the VP is going to toss her to the wind. IMHO 

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The only time I have seen SJ put his arm around “that girl” and show some affection is when she is having one of her crying, poor pitiful me moments.

 

I am a firm believer that he has done, what he has done to JS inorder to drive her away and protect her. He’s in the bowels of hell and JS didn’t do it, he did it to himself.

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I’d like to point out how well written this kdrama is, it’s not the typical drama we always watch. The characters are complex and not the usual kdrama characters. The leads are very different to what we’re used to as well. Usually the male lead are always bad at first then will eventually become a good person but in this case, SJ keeps getting worse every episode. Then we have JS where in most kdrama the female lead is always the damsel in distress but in her case; she’s very strong and she’s not always nice either! And with our third party, the villain is always portrayed as evil richard simmons but with YR’s case, she’s always the crybaby who needs saving (although she’s also wicked and sly).  I guess that’s why we’re hooked into this drama no matter how pissed we are every episode. Lol

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3 hours ago, TXviewer said:


I would say that there is little hope for reconciliation. The look on JS’s face at the end says it all! Who are you?

It did my heart good to see the scene between Hyung Ah and Mr. Cha. So sweet together.

SW is adorable as well. 
The fall down the stairs....who knows?? But I believe it opened YR eyes as to whom SJ really loves.....and it ain’t her! But I don’t think she really cares who he loves as long as he stays with her.

I wonder if she will be waiting outside the prison walls for him with tofu.:lol:

 

 

I still haven't watched the episode but yeah, I don't think there will be any reconciliation between them and SJ knows it. That's why dude didn't bother begging her for a chance after that confrontation in their house and he starts to cry in his car. He screwed up big time, but as usual, SJ decides it's a good idea to continue to go down the wrong path:crazy:. He knew it was over. True, he loves JS in his own way but the damage is too much. Not to mention, it also explains why he didn't want JS to dig up stuff in the first place. 

 

One thing we can be sure off is the fact that SJ doesn't love YR at all and little twit knows it from the back of her mind. She will always be a second option and I'm happy about it lol:lol:. Not to mention, she is about to be humiliated in public and I'm gonna have my popcorn ready:rolleyes::smirk:

 

I'm happy for HA for getting a chance to be happy and meeting a good man. As MN, I hope she comes back to work and gets promoted after YR gets kicked out. She really worked hard...

 

@MrsSoJiSub It's better if the writer gives SJ perspective for the upcoming episode because I want to know how he got himself tangled up with VP money. Not to mention, I want him to stop lying to JS face and start talking because she has the right to know. JS doesn't even need to drag him to hell with her, he is already in. Now, I wonder if he was smart enough to have an evidence against the VP regarding the slush fund. VP needs to go to prison as well for this mess along with his daughter<_<. And his wife better bleed him dry of his money lol:lol:

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1 hour ago, Elmaas said:

So I was talking with a friend who watches this drama and she (too)pointed out that something’s fishy about the YR and SJ love affair *barf*. And I kinda agree with everyone who said this in the beginning. 

 

Here’s my evidence: After he tells JS that he’s done with the marriage in ep.8 and that he can’t come back from what he’s done- he goes and breaks down in his car. Why would someone who’s just gotten the chance to be with the person he’s madly in love with act like that? I mean, if that was me, I’d have called my man and ran into his arms the second I stepped out of the house. 

 

In ep.10 when him and his friend are having a heart to heart about the affair and he tells him why he fell for her, he never says that he’s in love with her. Just that he felt relieved that he finally could come clean to someone. 

 

And even now, he’s finally with her and everyone knows about them so why isn’t he more affectionate with her? Why didn’t he tell JS off when he saw her push down  his “beloved one”?It kinda feels that she’s always pushing for him to make a move and he just goes with the flow.

 

There’re more scenes beside these ones that make no sense to me now that I think about. 

 

 

With that said, I’m not saying that they didn’t have an affair. I still believe that he cheated on JS so whether he has real feeling for his hamsterfaced witch or not doesn’t really matter that much to me. But it makes watching this drama less traumatic(a bit too late though).  

 

You got your points here but not to forget that he indeed treat YR well and it shows that he indeed love her. Like @maribella said he did not afraid to show off their relationship and flaunt it to people around him. Protecting her. Holding her in his arms (i nvr seen him did this to NJS before they got married), staying by her side, holding her hands, spent a night with her, going to work together and the list goes on. If that is not act of love it’s either two things possible. The writer is bad at writing or Lee Sang Yoon is bad at acting. 

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The title of episodes are relevant. This one is called 'Out of the Maze' right? What is a maze? I been to a corn maze before and it was the most terrifying of experiences (granted it was Halloween themed as well). I got so lost and my sister and I had to play Marco-Polo to help guide our way out. SJ been lost in a maze. From the get go he's gotten himself deeper and deeper and I"m not sure if he can come out. But JS is now trapping herself in a maze (much like SJ. I wonder if this is how things began for him with the VP. I'll do for you and support you but you must also do for me. Then the requests of do from the VP got worse and worse and well, he got lost in its all). This offer of "support" from the president will come at a price. She's very much using JS and will throw her under the bus should things go south. SJ gave JS a very good warning, "don't get mixed up in the executive politics" because he knows from experience how easily one can get lost/trapped within it. The VP and his sister president are very much the spiders entrapping the flies that are JS and SJ into their webs. 

 

I am loving the side story of Mi Ah. We women work so hard all the time. Have so many demands made of us, and can never seem to live up to societies demands. We are always damned if we do, damned if we don't, and are forever held to almost impossible standards. It's so unfair that so much is expected of women/mothers. Like the little boy is fine with mom staying home, but dad would be a big no no because people would laugh at him. I feel so much for Mi Ah feeling like she has to pick her children/family over her career (that same pressure and expectations are not placed on her husband!). I'm happy the show is displaying many sexist notions, double standards, and misogynistic patriarchy. It’s showing how the above makes a person feel trapped, miserable, lonely, and like they have no direction. I'm glad she has a supportive husband who seems like he knows how she feels and will support/is trying to support whatever decision she makes. 

 

Mom, SJ knows exactly what he's lost. Trust. You ain't telling him anything he hasn't already known. SJ didn't want to lose it; but what can he do? He made his bed when he shook hands with the VP whatever years ago and now he must lay in it and burry himself alive. Hahahahahahahahah!! Yoo Ri knows too. Girl is insecure because he didn't choose her. When he had a choice, he chose his wife and that's when she played her hand of the text message. I cracked up at her playing go-fish and trying to astern SJ's feeling where JS is concerned with the whole SW bait. Revelations this ep had me thinking the whole YR really isn't the daughter but a part of the grand scheme not seem that far fetched. She like all other mistresses first encountered SJ when he was brining her an envelope of money. We know the VP's wife knows more than we think she knows and goes with much of it so long as it benefits her and doesn't hurt her. Many mistresses are involved in this whole funds thing and she knew and accepted it (that benefited her and didn't in anyway hurt cause it wasn't public knowledge.). VP wife was enraged at the illegitimate daughter angle because it's socially and publicly embarrassing. Was there ever a DNA test to confirm or deny who YR is. We know how low the VP is so I can see him plotting and charming people to go along with it. 

 

Next week gonna be good. I think we still have a lot to learn and unravel. SJ is such a cautionary tale. He brought all this onto himself and his wife, and for what...he did all this to himself for what? Lost his world for what??? I am glad JS is out of the maze in that she is starting to be shown all of SJ secrets and the morally shameful and illegal things he's done. I think all of that and not wanting her to go down with him (too late if Mr. Bae has anything to say about that and the pictures he has LOL). I wonder if he's finally ready to let her and us know everything, the truths of truths and that's why he comes to the house. The charade will finally end and he'll take off all his masks. In the words of Watchmen, "You can't heal under a mask. Wounds need air." Seeing how JS walks away, is it little too late for explanations and healing? (how great is it that he comes when she's taking out the trash). 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, DL Wetherill said:

 I think SJ may have feelings for YR but not love. Maybe pity or empathy but he doesn’t smile, or look happy or affectionate at all around her.

You don’t see the happy face he had with JS before YR came along.

I believe the woman that YR met and called Madam is just that a Madam ( head of an escort service) and YR was one of her girls. YR is unraveling and I’m going to be surprised if she didn’t push JS down the stairs. If so that and the affair with SJ and the VP is going to toss her to the wind. IMHO 

 

It's hard to tell what SJ is thinking since the actor hides it so well by his one expression look.

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2 hours ago, maribella said:

Whatever reasons that cause SJ to stick to YR, we have seen a lot of tender moments. Be it due to money or fear or bad memories, or her big boobs, he did feel strong emotions for her.

Sorry to cut your post...but this highlighted statement will go down in forum history. As a literature buff, I haven't read of a better way to get a point across. I will remember it fondly. Unfortunately, I will most probably being looking for them tonight as I watch the episode - kind of like a "find the hidden object(s)" puzzle.

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