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  1. 1. Was there an affair?

    • No, there was no affair. It was one sided on Yoo Ri's part
    • Yes, there was an ongoing affair.
    • It was a one night stand.
  2. 2. The Conspiracy Theory

    • Yoo Ri is not the real daughter but the VP's mistress.
    • Sung Joon is doing this for his own gain ( to advance his career).
    • The VP hired Yoo Ri to destroy the Sung Joon - Jung Sun.
    • This is a high-end escort service.
    • There really is no conspiracy - just a marriage breaking down.

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Honestly, what p***es me off is that he was ready to mend his broken marriage just a few episodes ago. If he was so infatuated with YR and she made him lose grip- why not just end things with your wife quietly when she first discovered the affair and go back to your horsefaced b**** after things has cooled down. 

 

 

Marriages break down but to be this awful and cruel to someone you’ve loved for 10years- that says a lot about you as a person. I’m so pissed ya’ll. Like I don’t think one slap cuts it- JS needs to beat them both behind the dumpster. Heck, she should’ve just taken care of the which when they were on the roof. 

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I am beginning to lose hope that SJ can be redeemed. :(

This drama started out so well. There was a feeling of mystery and a conspiracy seemed likely. I thought there could be more to this drama than "just an affair". With each episode that passes, I am starting to wonder more and more how the writer is going to wrap this all up... SJ has just been showing worse and worse qualities after episode 10. He really is pushing JS away, isn't he?


I'm gonna be really sad (and a tad bit angry) if this whole drama really was just about an affair. :angry:

 

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4 hours ago, NAB said:

SW's dad, the foreign minister and Daniel.  Isn't his business based out of US? 

Yes, Daniel's business is in the US. That's why I see what @vinsensa_1 who astutely said, they will have a higher than VIP group and make it become international VIPs. This is when SW's father will come in along with Daniel. 
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4 minutes ago, smhelen said:

Yes, Daniel's business is in the US. That's why I see what a previous poster ( I forget the name) who astutely said, they will have a higher than VIP group and make it become international VIPs. This is when SW's father will come in along with Daniel. 

In the words of Austin Powers,"Yeah,baby! "

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6 hours ago, vinsensa_1 said:
Spoiler

 

it look like the company selling is decrease because the sex harrasment scandal. from the dramamilk recap VP and CEO have different opinion abt how to keep the selling point after the scandal. VP still targeting VIP consumer inside country, but CEO has diff thought, i can understand because the CEO previously worked in big success company outside the country, so she targeting consumer outside the country. After the announcement of prestigious team that take over VIP team work, i think CEO make a new team that will be headed by NJS and NJS off course put all her friend in vip team which not used by prestigious team anymore. they totally make a new team head by yuri and SJ. so there is a meeting between CEO team and prestigious team as we seen in end scene of epi 13? So they are there to prove who has better solution for the company? VP or CEO?

gosh, i like this battle of 2 team, having sad seeing how stress NJS because of SJ cheating, this battle like give me fresh air. LoL. most important people will see NJS is more bold than SJ or yuri, as we see in many cases for vip team, njs always came with better solution when they facing problems. 

 

 

The cheating couple are so selfish and despicable. Now even Hyun Ah, Mi Na and Sang Woo- people who are actually  good and qualified for their jobs are having to suffer the fallout because of the trash. 

6 hours ago, TaenGanGer Lee said:

And then maybe this is the time where SW need his father's help. 

because his father is a foreign minister.

And maybe like vip team have a trouble,  and SW's father uses his power and make the prestigious team fall hard.  

Just my guess. 

 

5 hours ago, smhelen said:

I am betting on Daniel's company. He will certainly empathize with her and he also respects her and her ability to get the job done. 

 

5 hours ago, KDramaLogic said:

Come on SW; now really is the time to use your "valuable asset": your father, the foreign minister (not your Alpaca fortuneteller senses or art of seduction, though they may come in handy for the JS/VIP team victory party :sweatingbullets:).

 

5 hours ago, NAB said:

Wow...you are all amazing.  Such insightful posts. Looks like it'll all begin to tie together. ..like mentioned by two others....SW's dad, the foreign minister and Daniel.  Isn't his business based out of US? 

Yes.  I think it was Singapore. Let me go rewatch quickly lol:sweatingbullets:

5 hours ago, vinsensa_1 said:

from tonight episode i just can see nothing left from njs to psj except angry and disgusting feeling.. angry because psj and yuri make new team and take over all their jobs.. and disgusting that he did it because he cheat her. it means he even let all her friend going to jobless. njs must see 3 of them (VP,SJ, Yuri) as one. the vp want to demoted her but failed and now they trying to attack her friends too. its cool seeing how njs fight back for her friends with the idea of black society and give it to CEO

Great posts everybody. it's all coming together and Team Jung Sun is a dream team including Sang Woo's secret ace card! Come on Team Jung Sun! Take them down!:angry:

 

4 hours ago, SyH said:

Thanks so much for this! I have been looking for a netizen's reaction translation site since melohwa was shut down.  The reactions are so funny. The K-netz hate them as much as we do (and are as baffled by LSY's one note acting as I am :lol:).  Glad to see so much love for Jang Nara. she is amazing in this drama!

 

4 hours ago, Elmaas said:

Honestly, what p***es me off is that he was ready to mend his broken marriage just a few episodes ago. If he was so infatuated with YR and she made him lose grip- why not just end things with your wife quietly when she first discovered the affair and go back to your horsefaced b**** after things has cooled down. 

 

 

Marriages break down but to be this awful and cruel to someone you’ve loved for 10years- that says a lot about you as a person. I’m so pissed ya’ll. Like I don’t think one slap cuts it- JS needs to beat them both behind the dumpster. Heck, she should’ve just taken care of the which when they were on the roof. 

He wasn't ever truly trying to fix his marriage. He just felt guilty and didn't want himself or Yuri to get caught. Fixing the marriage would mean prioritising his marriage and not one single time in this drama did SJ show that his marriage was a priority to him.  The despicable, cowardly way he has treated JS since he got caught shows exactly the type of person he is and how little his marriage meant to him.

 

Tell me one time this snake made an actual effort to save his marriage. If he really wanted to fix the marriage he would not have been lying to JS since episode 1; if really wanted to fix it he would not have allowed his unqualified sideho to work in an office right under his wife's nose and watched straight-faced whilst his innocent spouse goes out of her way to be kind and helpful to the richard simmons he's been screwing behind her back; he would have cut all contact with the sly crybaby and told the VP to assign her elsewhere; he would have come clean about everything to JS; he would have stopped lying to JS; he would not have covered up for Yuri's underhanded actions; he would have been there for JS when JS needed him and not run to be the VP's bumboy and crybaby Yuri's snot rag everytime she whimpered,

 

Heck, this feeble selfish waste of space didn't even bother to do the bare minimum and block his mistress on his mobile. How are you going to say it's over and still have your sidechick saved on your phone (and go running every time she texts or calls you)?<_<

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If my guess is write by the way the script is going, the take down revenge will happen during 13 & 14, any doubt or concern or regret will probably start around 15.  He will be watching his wife before that with concernt but wont start regretting anything till the.

 

Episode 16 My guess will be mop up and after seeing how much of a hole he dug himself into, he steps away from yrui (which i still beleive in his mind he thinks he is supporting her during a crisis period, something he felt he couldnt do properly for his wife).  Realising how much damage he has down either throws himself under the buss to save his wife or signs the divorce papers to free her from the mess he dragged her into.

 

But if you are areally going to do revenge the other party needs to suffer, and sorry but yuri needs to go through ALOT of pain yet.  There also needs to be backlash on her from CEO park as well to rub it in when he starts feeling the heat as well.

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By the end of EP13, I REALLY don't want a happy ending for YR and SJ. JS keeps referring them as DIRTY and it really suits them. I can't remember the last time I've been so mad over kdrama. 

 

At first, YR sent the message because she is jealous of JS personality and competency and also the fact that there is nothing between her and SJ anymore as they were broken up. She said she felt regret after receiving nothing but kindness from JS when she entered the team but I really cannot believe that because everything she did does not show that she is regretting at all. She just want what she wants and one of it is SJ. All her talk on the rooftop trying to reason with JS for what she did is just sickening. Just like what the VP's wife said to her, YR might get high position at the office due to VP but how can she climbed up to JS reputation that JS built by working hard by herself, not relying to her superior.

 

I have many things to say about SJ but I can't really get it out. I really can't comprehend what he is trying to do and justify all the things he did. I really want to understand him but I don't think that I am capable to with all that was shown about him up to this point. The rooftop scene and the car scene between him and JH seal the deal that I don't want any happy ending for him. It is never better to be full on evil rather than half evil. You're evil when you start being evil. That's it.

 

JS really step up her game this episode. She doesn't go full on berserk doing stupid things or exposing SJ to the public. She keeps her dignity and professionalism. Those small moments where SW try to cheer/help her just show how much her subordinate care and respect her. As far as I know, JS does not know that SW knows about things between SJ and YR. She also never outright exposing both SJ and YR except during that lunch meeting with VP. Now, JS starts to play fair with her strength and competency, coming up with her own project plan because she has been sidestepped, VP, SJ and YR will never stand a chance. SJ reputation as the youngest director will crumble plus he never really deserved the promotion he got because he got it through cleaning up VP's mess while JS will climb up with  her own sheer determination and hard work. 

 

Shoutout to the side couples HA & JH and MN & BH because they resolve their differences by talking and trying to understand each other. Major props to BH's growth, from someone who try to escape from taking care of his children to someone who consider resigning to become house husband because he does not want MN to sacrifice her career just shows how much his love for MN is. Scenes of both HA & JH and MN & BH managed to lighten the intense mood in EP13 without downplaying their issues.

 

Based on the preview of EP14, YR described SJ just like how JS described SJ when they first work together. Someone that is kind and warmhearted. I hope that SJ will leave YR just like how SJ leave JS because I want YR to experience what JS experienced. Or maybe something a whole lot worse such as being labelled as homewrecker by everyone in the company that nothing VP can do to salvage her image. SJ, you do not deserve that longing face when you sees someone else care for SJ. She deserves all the care she receives and you have never been there for her. You just simply do not deserve her anymore.

 

 

Somehow i hope that the whole VIP team, lead by JS, leave Sung Un, set up their own company and freelancing to cater the needs of the VIPs, with support by Tifone and SW's father. This way, they don't have to face injustice and can be promoted with their own capabilities and merit. No dirty office politic play. B)

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I agree that we are still in the dark on SJ's character reversal.  He seems to have a kind heart in many instances, and yet he is so cruel to JS.  What gives?  Dramamilk's recap says that on the roof in the rain, SJ moves toward Yuri first.  PR director asks him how could he do that to JS, and SJ says that "you said that being a little bit bad is worse than super bad. It is better for Jung-sun if I make it that way."  I think in some crazy way he is trying to protect her by driving her away from him.  He may be in some really bad legal trouble with the VP.  Otherwise, I agree that SJ is a really poorly written character.  Maybe he is hiding some really bigger secret, and doesn't want JS dragged down with him.

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, kdramagrandma said:

By the end of EP13, I REALLY don't want a happy ending for YR and SJ. JS keeps referring them as DIRTY and it really suits them. I can't remember the last time I've been so mad over kdrama. 

 

At first, YR sent the message because she is jealous of JS personality and competency and also the fact that there is nothing between her and SJ anymore as they were broken up. She said she felt regret after receiving nothing but kindness from JS when she entered the team but I really cannot believe that because everything she did does not show that she is regretting at all. She just want what she wants and one of it is SJ. All her talk on the rooftop trying to reason with JS for what she did is just sickening. Just like what the VP's wife said to her, YR might get high position at the office due to VP but how can she climbed up to JS reputation that JS built by working hard by herself, not relying to her superior.

 

I have many things to say about SJ but I can't really get it out. I really can't comprehend what he is trying to do and justify all the things he did. I really want to understand him but I don't think that I am capable to with all that was shown about him up to this point. The rooftop scene and the car scene between him and JH seal the deal that I don't want any happy ending for him. It is never better to be full on evil rather than half evil. You're evil when you start being evil. That's it.

 

JS really step up her game this episode. She doesn't go full on berserk doing stupid things or exposing SJ to the public. She keeps her dignity and professionalism. Those small moments where SW try to cheer/help her just show how much her subordinate care and respect her. As far as I know, JS does not know that SW knows about things between SJ and YR. She also never outright exposing both SJ and YR except during that lunch meeting with VP. Now, JS starts to play fair with her strength and competency, coming up with her own project plan because she has been sidestepped, VP, SJ and YR will never stand a chance. SJ reputation as the youngest director will crumble plus he never really deserved the promotion he got because he got it through cleaning up VP's mess while JS will climb up with  her own sheer determination and hard work. 

 

Shoutout to the side couples HA & JH and MN & BH because they resolve their differences by talking and trying to understand each other. Major props to BH's growth, from someone who try to escape from taking care of his children to someone who consider resigning to become house husband because he does not want MN to sacrifice her career just shows how much his love for MN is. Scenes of both HA & JH and MN & BH managed to lighten the intense mood in EP13 without downplaying their issues.

 

Based on the preview of EP14, YR described SJ just like how JS described SJ when they first work together. Someone that is kind and warmhearted. I hope that SJ will leave YR just like how SJ leave JS because I want YR to experience what JS experienced. Or maybe something a whole lot worse such as being labelled as homewrecker by everyone in the company that nothing VP can do to salvage her image. SJ, you do not deserve that longing face when you sees someone else care for SJ. She deserves all the care she receives and you have never been there for her. You just simply do not deserve her anymore.

 

Somehow i hope that the whole VIP team, lead by JS, leave Sung Un, set up their own company and freelancing to cater the needs of the VIPs, with support by Tifone and SW's father. This way, they don't have to face injustice and can be promoted with their own capabilities and merit. No dirty office politic play. B)

This is such a fantastic and insightful post  I absolutely agree with everything you said!

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This situation is jacked and I’d be lying if I said I knew why SJ is doing all this; but I still believe there was no affair and he loves his wife. Not saying or doing things says a lot. Mans faking with YR. Maybe there’s some inner work conspiracy between him and VP, maybe YR is a mistress disguised as a daughter, maybe JS life is on the line or maybe SJ is a government super spy on some secret mission from the blue house. Or it’s none of the above. I don’t know but something just don’t feel right about it all. SJ is not in love with YR. This ain’t an affair or just an affair. He hesitated. His eyes were all on JS and he hesitated as if having some kind of inner debate, then he turned. Nope. Something just ain’t right. 

 

My biggest take away from this drama...looks are deceiving. Things aren’t what they always seem. What you think you know, may not be what you truly know/is going on. Don’t jump to conclusions. Your guts and instincts at times lie to you. If you aren’t prepared to hear the answer or just plain old listen, don’t even ask the question. Sometimes a loss is not a loss nor a win a win. It’s okay to just walk away. A well earned slap that’s given is so satisfying. 

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23 minutes ago, INJINFAN said:

I agree that we are still in the dark on SJ's character reversal.  He seems to have a kind heart in many instances, and yet he is so cruel to JS.  What gives?  Dramamilk's recap says that on the roof in the rain, SJ moves toward Yuri first.  PR director asks him how could he do that to JS, and SJ says that "you said that being a little bit bad is worse than super bad. It is better for Jung-sun if I make it that way."  I think in some crazy way he is trying to protect her by driving her away from him.  He may be in some really bad legal trouble with the VP.  Otherwise, I agree that SJ is a really poorly written character.  Maybe he is hiding some really bigger secret, and doesn't want JS dragged down with him.

 

 

 

That's what I thought too!  That SJ is trying to drive JS away from him and not necessarily that he is choosing to be with YR (kind of like a noble idiocy thing!).  I realized that the actress that plays YR is the same one that caused the second couple in Fight For My Way to break up too!.  She plays the "other woman" too well!  

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I just read the summary for episode 13 and SJ finally gave in to staying with YR for the night? So if he hasn't crossed the physical line to constitute as a physical affair looks like he is going to that tonight?!!!!

 

Sorry for multiple posts today.  As you see,  I'm frantic as more and more details of episode 13 are released. Lol

 

So happy for JS and CEO collaboration though! Woot woot

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21 minutes ago, INJINFAN said:

I agree that we are still in the dark on SJ's character reversal.  He seems to have a kind heart in many instances, and yet he is so cruel to JS.  What gives?  Dramamilk's recap says that on the roof in the rain, SJ moves toward Yuri first.  PR director asks him how could he do that to JS, and SJ says that "you said that being a little bit bad is worse than super bad. It is better for Jung-sun if I make it that way."  I think in some crazy way he is trying to protect her by driving her away from him.  He may be in some really bad legal trouble with the VP.  Otherwise, I agree that SJ is a really poorly written character.  Maybe he is hiding some really bigger secret, and doesn't want JS dragged down with him.

 

 

 

im agree with you...it seem sj try to push away njs...what make me feel it like that because in the preview when vp know that BLack society (BS) is actually njs idea, VP said to PSJ if njs still like that, i cant help you anymore....what he means by cant help you anymore? then we saw/heard during sj njs confrontation in meeting room, sj said to njs i might do revenge to you...it is like he try harder to push her away by making himself as bad as evil

in previous episode SJ beg VP to cancel njs transfer to ulsan, when VP cancel it he said i already gave you the answer so now it is your time to give me your answer? what he means? 

when njs slap him, sj staring at njs look so sad...and when njs was trapped in rooftop he also worried and showed more worries after msw said it must be cold outside...at that time i assumed sj didnt know that yuri is with njs in rooftop. SJ moved to yuri in rooftop scene because he saw msw move to njs first (after msw look at him like said what the hell? why you stop and just stand like that. your wife is getting cold...LOL. sorry for my interpretation).

i prefer he had something bad behind this than he had terminal illness that made him push away his wife. sorry i just remember JNR other drama FTLY...LoL

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So far whnever the hopeless "love birds" wr together not a hint of them being in love in a romantic sense. SJ wth  his usual blank puzzled  expressions and Yuri wth her silly  innocent teary antics. 

 

I feel SJ is actually "in love" with VP hehehe, his stairway to secure the job promotion??? 

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16 minutes ago, MrsSoJiSub said:

This situation is jacked and I’d be lying if I said I knew why SJ is doing all this; but I still believe there was no affair and he loves his wife. Not saying or doing things says a lot. Mans faking with YR. May there’s some inner work conspiracy between him and VP, maybe YR is a mistress disguised as a daughter, maybe JS life is on the line or maybe SJ is a government spy on some secret mission from the blue house. Or it’s none of the above. I don’t know but something just don’t feel right about it all. SJ is not in love with YR. This ain’t an affair or just an affair. He hesitated. His eyes were all on JS and he hesitated as of having some kind of inner debate, then he turned. Nope. Something just ain’t right. 

 

My biggest take away from this drama...looks are deceiving. Things aren’t what they always seem. What you think you know, may not be what you truly know/is going on. Don’t jump to conclusions. Your guts and instincts at times lie to you. If you aren’t prepared to hear the answer or just plain old listen, don’t even ask the question. Sometimes a loss is not a loss nor a win a win. It’s okay to just walk away. A well earned slap that’s given is so satisfying. 

I so want to agree with you. I am devastated by what I have read and seen so far. I have not seen the actual episode as yet.

Do you mind if I borrow you husband @MrsSoJiSub? I think we need him to ride in on his white horse.

BTW, watched “The Battleship Island” and it was so good. He did an excellent job as always.

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31 minutes ago, Katrina Abdul Talib said:

So far whnever the hopeless "love birds" wr together not a hint of them being in love in a romantic sense. SJ wth  his usual blank puzzled  expressions and Yuri wth her silly  innocent teary antics. 

 

I feel SJ is actually "in love" with VP hehehe, his stairway to secure the job promotion??? 

:lol:The VP is definitely SJ's true love!  I've said it before but he is much more attentive and faithful to the VP than he ever was to his actual wife.

 

I also am baffled by Lee Sang Yoon's  monotonous expression. I think it's either a deliberate directing choice or simply bad acting. LSJ's default expression for anything and everything is :neutral: and Yuri ust mouth breaths in every scene :open_mouth: if she isn't crying. It's compounded by the fact the actors have zero chemistry.  They are repellant to watch onscreen together.

 

The K-netz comments about LSY's acting as Sung Jun are hilarious:lol::lol::lol:

[+1955, -35] Disgusting cheating couple.. I come to know Lee Sang Yoon as an interesting actor who expresses various emotions with just one expression. Unlimited! The two women cause a fuss wanting to slap each other because of him, and his acting when he looks on like it is other people’s business. He is really bad at acting.

 

[+2766, -75] At first many said it could not be an affair after watching Lee Sang Yoon’s mysterious acting. Now it is not poker face, it is just bad acting. To know how Park Seong Joon thinks, you have to understand the script, not Lee Sang Yoon’s acting. His expression did not change whether he had an affair, when he was caught for having an affair, when he was working. An actor with one expression for sympathy, affection and anger.

https://koreanewstranslated.com/2019/12/17/drama-1-naver-news-vip-ep-13-netizens-reactions/

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I was drawn to  this drama because of actor LSG. I watch Master in the House because of LSG. I loved him in "on the way to the airport", and watched "Second Twenties", "About Time", and "Angel Eyes" because of him.  An actor is only as good as script and director.  "About Time" was a poor script and I didn't think he and the actress had good chemistry in "Angel Eyes". but I still liked him.  After VIP, I will follow Jang Na Ra because she is a brilliant actress. I forgot she was in "Fated to Love You" with Jang Hyuk, who I also love.  This writer seems to be pretty good, so I will give her/him the benefit of the doubt until the end.  Let's hope we will all get closure and are dumbfounded by how brilliant the ending is!
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Just watched Ep13 with english subtitle. I am not sure if other soompiers said something about this but I got a vibe that SJ just want to protect YR because YR is sort of in the same position as his mother. Based on the flashback, it seems that SJ and his mother received harsh treatment from his father’s wife and children. We know that his mother was a mistress and  it seems like his father did not divorce his wife. He knows what his mother went through after being labelled as mistress, that is why he cannot leave YR after JS knows about YR. He realised that he made a mistake and tried to stop, but when he knows that JS knew about the affair, he is becoming more protective of YR. So, rather than SJ being protective because they have the same background, he feels responsible to protect YR from backlash she will receive and stay with her for support. Plus YR keeps clinging/crying/begging to him really makes him believe that YR needs him more than JS. 
 

Just my two cents though. I really need to sleep now. :sleepy:

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Omgoodness the preview for tomorrow night. I can’t believe that nasty wench YR is already talking about SJ being her future husband. She is sickening. Then SJ mother finding out what has happened and saying you don’t know what you’ve lost. I can’t see her accepting YR into the family. SJ already said how much his mother has suffered with anxiety and can’t sleep and he’s going to do this to her. YR and JS and VP all need to get dragged through the mud. 
And where is YR talking about wanting to commit suicide going to factor into all this. 

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