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  1. 1. Was there an affair?

    • No, there was no affair. It was one sided on Yoo Ri's part
    • Yes, there was an ongoing affair.
    • It was a one night stand.
  2. 2. The Conspiracy Theory

    • Yoo Ri is not the real daughter but the VP's mistress.
    • Sung Joon is doing this for his own gain ( to advance his career).
    • The VP hired Yoo Ri to destroy the Sung Joon - Jung Sun.
    • This is a high-end escort service.
    • There really is no conspiracy - just a marriage breaking down.

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  • Poll closed on 12/16/2019 at 01:50 PM

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Live recap of VIP Ep. 13, Part 2 by DRAMAMILK:

 

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, liltash85 said:

she is just low class pathetic B.... . Maybe because she is a daughter of a homewrecker so she is becoming the same as her mother. 

 

Let me start by saying that, usually, I would NEVER, EVER want to judge someone based on her/his parent's past actions or reputation. It's a mentality that, unfortunately, most (patriarchal) societies, including that in South Korea, are culpable of doing at home, school, work, and everywhere, and that's unfair for the children to bear the shame of their parents' overall character.

 

It would be like saying "Oh, JS is not a worthy person for marriage because she came from a broken family whose mother abandoned for an affair and whose father didn't have the aptitude of saving the marriage. Because JS was a product of an unsuccessful marriage, she is doomed to carry the same fate as her father if she ever gets married." :unamused:

 

So, I can't vouch for YR's mother's past, since I don't trust anything the VP claims about his alleged past relationship with YR's mother prior to his official marriage. Nowhere in YR's flashback with her mother (in Ep. 12) did it ever insinuate the mother or YR mentioning anything about YR's father, let alone the VP.

 

One thing we can agree on, though, is that YR will really do anything for money and status. I rewatched the dinner scene with YR and HA in Ep. 2, where HA tried to explain to YR that money doesn't guarantee happiness, even for VIP clients. Then YR disputed (rather ominously, in my opinion) that having no money is worse by mentioning her "sob story" about how she was worried about having to pay hospital bills for having to go to the hospital when she fainted from "malnourishment" while working part-time.<_<

 

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24 minutes ago, smhelen said:

And now, she will go after SW? :phew:

 

Nope nope 

SW is too precious for that cunning girl. 

She's just wanna make SJ jealous. And then make him want to divorce JS. 

Anyone know that she is a cunning girl.

 

That cunning girl,  i just want to know what your ending is. 

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I'm so sad to hear there hasn't been any development of SJ possible redemption!!

 

I know SJ is being supper stupid, low,  and pathetic right now  but one of the reasons I can't fully ACCEPT SJ being bad to the end is because we're shown through many different lenses that he is not. At least in the past.

 

If he did have an affair,  that is one blip to his entire existence and history, given it is HUGE blip, it still wouldn't explain how he's acting now versus who his established character is, as per JS he was a man that's quiet but fair and has a good heart. 

 

 His transition to being a bad guy was too late in the series and if he is bad to the end it wouldn't make any sense.   Either there is a lack of insight from the writers not realizing they haven't given us enough material to justify the 180 change in SJ or there is something else going on. Ugh!!

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2 minutes ago, TaenGanGer Lee said:

 

Nope nope 

She's just wanna make SJ jealous. And then make him want to divorce JS. 

Anyone know that she is a cunning girl.

 

That cunning girl,  i just want to know what your ending is. 

That might backfire on her by the way he stared daggers into them:naughty::joy:

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10 minutes ago, smhelen said:

And now, she will go after SW? :phew:

From the Dramamilk recap, I found this and I'm miffed to say the least
 

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[Hyunah sees a message on the company computer about Yuri. She has become a manager of the Presitige team. Hyun-ah sits back and sighs.

Ji-young comes running in and asks what the Prestige team is? I heard they take care of the top 1% VIP’s. So what about you guys? Do they only take care of Black Diamonds?

Hyun-ah holds back her rage and takes a break.]
Hyun-ah, I feel you girl. :angry:

 

it look like the company selling is decrease because the sex harrasment scandal. from the dramamilk recap VP and CEO have different opinion abt how to keep the selling point after the scandal. VP still targeting VIP consumer inside country, but CEO has diff thought, i can understand because the CEO previously worked in big success company outside the country, so she targeting consumer outside the country. After the announcement of prestigious team that take over VIP team work, i think CEO make a new team that will be headed by NJS and NJS off course put all her friend in vip team which not used by prestigious team anymore. they totally make a new team head by yuri and SJ. so there is a meeting between CEO team and prestigious team as we seen in end scene of epi 13? So they are there to prove who has better solution for the company? VP or CEO?

gosh, i like this battle of 2 team, having sad seeing how stress NJS because of SJ cheating, this battle like give me fresh air. LoL. most important people will see NJS is more bold than SJ or yuri, as we see in many cases for vip team, njs always came with better solution when they facing problems. 

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3 minutes ago, vinsensa_1 said:

gosh, i like this battle of 2 team, having sad seeing how stress NJS because of SJ cheating, this battle like give me fresh air. LoL. most important people will see NJS is more bold than SJ or yuri, as we see in many cases for vip team, njs always came with better solution when they facing problems. 

And then maybe this is the time where SW need his father's help. 

because his father is a foreign minister.

And maybe like vip team have a trouble,  and SW's father uses his power and make the prestigious team fall hard.  

Just my guess. 

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11 minutes ago, vinsensa_1 said:

, having sad seeing how stress NJS because of SJ cheating, this battle like give me fresh air. LoL. most important people will see NJS is more bold than SJ or yuri, as we see in many cases for vip team, njs always came with better solution when they facing problems. 

All what I want is for NJS to win. I was getting so worried thinking of Abba's song, the Winner Takes it All, aka, the SJ, VP and his daughter Yuri taking it all. Now, I am thinking NJS and team will take it all because they are top notch on what they do. And I hope for NJS will forget about that sorry marriage that brought her nothing but heartache and betrayal.  

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Dramamilk comment about SJ "May his morals rest in peace" made me laugh ROFL:mrgreen::joy:.

 

@Ameera AliSo true :glasses:. Once a cheater, always a cheater:lol:.

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21 minutes ago, TaenGanGer Lee said:

 

Nope nope 

SW is too precious for that cunning girl. 

She's just wanna make SJ jealous. And then make him want to divorce JS. 

Anyone know that she is a cunning girl.

 

That cunning girl,  i just want to know what your ending is. 

If she's trying to push the divorce by mentioning SW - it may backfire on her. Ha

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10 minutes ago, smhelen said:

All what I want is for NJS to win. I was getting so worried thinking of Abba's song, the Winner Takes it All, aka, the SJ, VP and his daughter Yuri taking it all. Now, I am thinking NJS and team will take it all because they are top notch on what they do. And I hope for NJS will forget about that sorry marriage that brought her nothing but heartache and betrayal.  

me too i really want to see NJS be the winner.

i think NJS has a thought that best way to start to take PSJ down is beat the prestige team. really curious how she do it? 3 episode left is it enough to see it? 

btw i like njs proposal about black society, gosh she just made it in one night...

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16 minutes ago, TaenGanGer Lee said:

And then maybe this is the time where SW need his father's help. 

because his father is a foreign minister.

And maybe like vip team have a trouble,  and SW's father uses his power and make the prestigious team fall hard.  

Just my guess. 

Wow...I think you've got something there.

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 Yes...now let the battle at work beging. 

That little annoyed Yuri...she was and is jealous of JS from the beginning...I really hope our queen wins at work and at her life and shows this little human been that by stealing someone else life it has not a happy end. Get those 3 out of work. Let the magic brain of our queen JS works wonder and fullfil her work at top and quick out those 3. 

 

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So we have one more week? Episodes 15 and 16? And they have created two teams to compete? 

I have a bad feeling it will be an all rushed last episode. We won't get to see YR dumping SJ or SJ cheating on YR. Maybe SW asks JS out for a drink? No, no JS must leave that company or those three must go.

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If SJ and Yuri are still together in the end, I want the same exact scenario like when SJ & JS did groceries together last time and SJ made eye contact with Yuri.

Just that this time Yuri is JS and there's a new girl standing there, and SJ still flirts. JS can be seen watching this, she is with her 2 kids and husband and she just smile.

SJ is still this loser and Yuri going to be cheated on by him this time lol.

And also show the VP still treat SJ like his loyal dog, no self respect and or pride at all <_<.

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It has been obvious that SW has a soft spot for JS. It doesn't have to be romantic love, it could just be basic respect and awe. I don't know what to expect about the ending though. I don't want NJS to turn into a vengeful person, but so far SJ doesn't demonstrate qualities for reconciliation either. Even if we do get a happy ending with NJS and SJ together again, won't this betrayal still be hanging behind their backs?

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15 minutes ago, vinsensa_1 said:

NJS has a thought that best way to start to take PSJ down is beat the prestige team. really curious how she do it?

I am betting on Daniel's company. He will certainly empathize with her and he also respects her and her ability to get the job done. 

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More ranting from today's episode coming right up!

 

6 hours ago, maribella said:

Throughout the show, SW has been the awkward, bumbling rookie. If they need to make him a responsible, mature, trustworthy etc. it should have been earlier. Like in my prettiest daughter.

 

SW's character has only taken some importance in the umbrella scene episode 13. 
 

@KDramaLogic  with Mr.Sunshine, it was cops and robbers, war and peace, I would be ready for a heartbreak especially when there would be bravery under fire. But can you expect this show to go from A to Z, anyway X, giving prime screen time to a two-timing creep and also his tart? If they bring SW to the fore, how much can his character be developed in an episode or two when there are HA's, MN's and corporate shenanigans' as well?  
 

Pox take her/him.

 

Of course, @maribella, given the horrendous historical account of the Japanese occupation of Korea, I knew that Mr. Sunshine was bound to have tragic (and unjust) deaths of (some, if not all) the beloved characters. Still for the ending (do NOT read the spoilers if you have not watched the ending and do not want to be spoiled):

 

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I can't help but think that Choi Eugene could have carefully backed the Japanese into the train compartment carrying the explosives (I think...it's been a year since I watched that drama), throw his Japanese hostage in that compartment, and get into the other compartment with Lady Aeshin and the rebels/passengers while severing the connection between those compartments before the explosion. That's why I initially reacted to that part of the ending with the Pulp Fiction "Say what again!" gif out of shock.

 

Nonetheless, I understood (and cried with Aeshin :tears:) at the magnitude of the sacrifice Choi Eugene made for Aeshin and the nation that had forsaken him and his family due to their slave status).

 

Back to the VIP drama: As @2good2btru (and any other Soompier I didn't see or credit) mentioned, I honestly feel the screenwriter (and director?) didn't properly give enough episodes for SJ to start becoming "evil" (or, in an alternative take, start his path of redemption with JS). So I've no idea how to suspend my disbelief over this drama's "A-to-Z" trajectory; I'm really becoming as disillusioned with this drama as JS is with her 10-year marriage to a blank, two-faced SJ.

 

As for SW, I don't think even he sees himself as JS's potential partner. He, like the other VIP team members, admire and respect JS for putting up with his "bumbling" (in)competency with straightforward but kind patience. SW himself is admirable for choosing not to disclose, let alone use, his family background to shirk his work responsibility or take unfair credit/promotion in the VIP team.

 

 

5 hours ago, TaenGanGer Lee said:

And then maybe this is the time where SW need his father's help. 

because his father is a foreign minister.

And maybe like vip team have a trouble,  and SW's father uses his power and make the prestigious team fall hard.  

Just my guess. 

 

Yes, @TaenGanGer Lee. This VP has been hell-bent from the start to discredit JS and the VIP team. Now he's recruiting his "prestigious team" with YR and SJ to take away the VIP team's potential AND current customers, perhaps even the Black Diamond members. :angry:

 

Come on SW; now really is the time to use your "valuable asset": your father, the foreign minister (not your Alpaca fortuneteller senses or art of seduction, though they may come in handy for the JS/VIP team victory party :sweatingbullets:).

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Wow...you are all amazing.  Such insightful posts. Looks like it'll all begin to tie together. ..like mentioned by two others....SW's dad, the foreign minister and Daniel.  Isn't his business based out of US? 

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24 minutes ago, maribella said:

So we have one more week? Episodes 15 and 16? And they have created two teams to compete? 

I have a bad feeling it will be an all rushed last episode. We won't get to see YR dumping SJ or SJ cheating on YR. Maybe SW asks JS out for a drink? No, no JS must leave that company or those three must go.

from tonight episode i just can see nothing left from njs to psj except angry and disgusting feeling.. angry because psj and yuri make new team and take over all their jobs.. and disgusting that he did it because he cheat her. it means he even let all her friend going to jobless. njs must see 3 of them (VP,SJ, Yuri) as one. the vp want to demoted her but failed and now they trying to attack her friends too. its cool seeing how njs fight back for her friends with the idea of black society and give it to CEO

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