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  1. 1. Was there an affair?

    • No, there was no affair. It was one sided on Yoo Ri's part
    • Yes, there was an ongoing affair.
    • It was a one night stand.
  2. 2. The Conspiracy Theory

    • Yoo Ri is not the real daughter but the VP's mistress.
    • Sung Joon is doing this for his own gain ( to advance his career).
    • The VP hired Yoo Ri to destroy the Sung Joon - Jung Sun.
    • This is a high-end escort service.
    • There really is no conspiracy - just a marriage breaking down.

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  • Poll closed on 12/16/2019 at 01:50 PM

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talking abt Daniel Tifone, this character was written as a natural good observer person, perfectionist too. He has a gift of observer that he can said plant also follow fibonaci sequence,  i remember when Daniel said that yuri eyes remembering him of Black Sapphire which beautiful but somehow make trouble too. As good observer he observed SJ and JS in signing contract he must catched JS suspicious stared to SJ and he must also saw JS wearing wed ring and connected it with SJ wedding ring, and his expression after that, showed he know that both SJ and JS facing trouble in their married. If he was a pro he can connect yuri, SJ and JS.

i do hope lee ki chan will comeback on the show as daniel, like Arin did, she appeared in 1st episode and made appearance again in episode 11. it is no matter if his appearance just as short as arin, but at least we know what he thought at that time when SJ asked how did you know. my level of curiousity is up because lee ki chan smirk LoL

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3 hours ago, Takingthehighroad said:

@KDramaLogic The gifs...and I so wanted to bake a cake. After seeing them, I'm ready to "rumble" (got that term from East Side Story, before your time, I'm sure). And the Hulk - that goes way back w/Bill Bixby. I have great long-term memory....I just have a tad bit of problems remembering what I said/did a few minutes ago. I have to admit I have wanted to "burst out of my clothes" & karate a few people (SJ & YR). Unfortunately, the victim(s) passed away before I could get in my first chop. Either the sight of me naked (with muscles) scared them to death or they were in bad health anyway. 

 

I can only recommend The Legend of Yanxi Palace, that is if you're into historical Chinese dramas. It's one of the highest rated internationally-known dramas. Short summary follows: FL sister died at hands of a royal. She enters the palace as a maid (?) to seek justice/revenge. I have never seen a more courageous, witty FL in all my years of watching K/Chinese/Thai/Turkish/Russian/Spanish/French dramas. The Emperor confronts her over & over about her behavior. No matter how anyone tries to corner her - she's too smart. The consorts all hate her (she's beautiful, smart, brave, & always beats them at their game). Historically, Consort Gao was known to be cruel (the cruelest female consort ever in Chinese history. I won't say more, other than to recommend it.


2 days until more angst. I want to hurry it up but then I'm afraid of what's to come. I mean, come on it's a merry time of year. I don't want this drama to end on a sorry note. That's why I'm writing my ending scenario...I want it to end the way I want to end.

 

 

 

Perhaps the West Side Story musical and 1961 film, I believe, may be before my time, but I remember watching the film with my parents when I was in elementary school (back then, I was into classical music, including Leonard Bernstein, who composed the music for the musical version). So, don't worry, I (think I) got the "Rumble" reference!!

 

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Poor Tony and Maria, though...:bawling:

 

Don't know when I'll be able to fit in C-dramas in my schedule of "real life" and K-dramas, but I'll try to check out The Legend of Yanxi Palace. Thanks for the short summary and recommendation, @Takingthehighroad! And, I'm assuming this is the classy, smart, and brave FL, Wei Yingluo/Consort Ling, you were referring to:

 

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As for the "failed" attempt on the Hulk's part in giving SJ, YR and the VP the smackdown they deserve:

  1. First, gotta respect the classics and original (RIP, Bill Baxby).
  2. Death by the sight of shirtless Hulk before the real action/comeuppance...-_- In your defense, though, hot shirtless scenes are bound to cause "death", if not love (lust), at first sight (not just in K-dramas). Guess the Hulk took it to the next level before the SMASH!! :w00t:
  3. SJ and YR dying from bad health, you say? It better be attributed to SJ's (and maybe YR's ) guilt eating at him, not SJ and YR in the middle of...you know...:crazy::angry: Ugh!

 

Oh well. Anyhow, hope that we, the Soompiers and viewers (and JS and her VIP team) keep our wits and brace for the storm during the last four episodes. Fighting!:thumbsup:

 

 

3 hours ago, Maureen Mckay said:

Yes!  That look she gave herself in the mirror was menacing and foreshadowing what's to come with her character perhaps.  When moments before she was cowering like a little kid in front of her stepmom.  

 

Sharp observation, @NAB and @Maureen Mckay. YR's doe-eyed, "woe is me" facade is slowly but surely cracking, even in those blink-and-you miss moments like that last confrontation in the bathroom when YR was supposedly "cowering in fear" but subtly rearing her ugly head as the VP's wife turned her back and left...:blink:

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3 hours ago, Maureen Mckay said:

Yes!  That look she gave herself in the mirror was menacing and foreshadowing what's to come with her character perhaps.  When moments before she was cowering like a little kid in front of her stepmom.  

Yes...she really is a doble face. 

I only want nothing more than failure for her. She is not honest. 

Hope writter give us a great solution finalle. 

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4 minutes ago, KDramaLogic said:

Sharp observation, @NAB and @Maureen Mckay. YR's doe-eyed, "woe is me" facade is slowly but surely cracking, even in those blink-and-you miss moments like that last confrontation in the bathroom when YR was supposedly "cowering in fear" but subtly rearing her ugl


She stood him up when the VP called her to lunch with 'her family'. Not even a msg to cancel. I think I am seeing another picture - SJ being ditched, no woman, no job. YR and VP got into trouble swindling and embezzling the company, go straight to jail. Three at one blow. I can really grow to like that.

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Officially VIP and Kdramas have made us delusional. First of all episode 2- 45.28 minutes in Yuri is a call girl not even a mistress.  The scene shows her looking at her closet full of expensive items in her dump of a roof top flat. She later appears at the same hotel we have all scene in an LBD lace to add, red lipstick to meet none other than the VP who opens the door. So hell NO! she is not his daughter. Yes SJ knows everything and still loves her. The man ran up 6 flights of stairs and sighs when she leaves.  Fortunately for them trash meets trash.  In the episode when our heroine JS calls them out at lunch about the affair, she says he is DIRTY! That was probably the only time I have ever seen SJ character actually react to the truth! He thinks she does not know what we already know, not debatable a richard simmons bag who the VP uses to handle his dirty work instead of his secretary.  I predict the following the  VP will try to cut out his wife who will in turn have to protect herself and reveal to JS the truth.  The VP all he wants his the CEO position his father is chairman but his sister being named instead signals distrust and this desperation will lead to mistakes.  If Daniel finds out the bribed his girlfriend when he comes to sign the contract he will take the jewelry contract away and as per VP they need the contract in order to survive.  SJ well he is just lost what happens when those who bond over lies and once the truth is revealed? Remember when JS mom was in hospital and she states that her one bad decision haunted her and she was punished forever...bumbumbum.  This is exactly the ending for SJ. 

Our heroine JS will not ever want him back its not a matter of forgiveness but rather he's DIRTY!!! I agree a rotten apple must be eliminated SJ words not mine. 

Look forward to their mutual destruction Yuri, SJ and VP. Happy watching y' alll. 

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34 minutes ago, EDS said:

Officially VIP and Kdramas have made us delusional. First of all episode 2- 45.28 minutes in Yuri is a call girl not even a mistress.  The scene shows her looking at her closet full of expensive items in her dump of a roof top flat. She later appears at the same hotel we have all scene in an LBD lace to add, red lipstick to meet none other than the VP who opens the door. So hell NO! she is not his daughter. Yes SJ knows everything and still loves her. The man ran up 6 flights of stairs and sighs when she


I wouldn't pay much attention to those 'teasers' before eps 8. The writer was throwing a lot of so-called clues so that we would watch it to figure out the real mistress. She has been presented to the Chairman as the VP's daughter. Trash meets trash, that is true although many are still holding out about SJ.

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1 hour ago, EDS said:

Officially VIP and Kdramas have made us delusional. First of all episode 2- 45.28 minutes in Yuri is a call girl not even a mistress.  The scene shows her looking at her closet full of expensive items in her dump of a roof top flat. She later appears at the same hotel we have all scene in an LBD lace to add, red lipstick to meet none other than the VP who opens the door. So hell NO! she is not his daughter. Yes SJ knows everything and still loves her. The man ran up 6 flights of stairs and sighs when she leaves.  Fortunately for them trash meets trash.  In the episode when our heroine JS calls them out at lunch about the affair, she says he is DIRTY! That was probably the only time I have ever seen SJ character actually react to the truth! He thinks she does not know what we already know, not debatable a richard simmons bag who the VP uses to handle his dirty work instead of his secretary.  I predict the following the  VP will try to cut out his wife who will in turn have to protect herself and reveal to JS the truth.  The VP all he wants his the CEO position his father is chairman but his sister being named instead signals distrust and this desperation will lead to mistakes.  If Daniel finds out the bribed his girlfriend when he comes to sign the contract he will take the jewelry contract away and as per VP they need the contract in order to survive.  SJ well he is just lost what happens when those who bond over lies and once the truth is revealed? Remember when JS mom was in hospital and she states that her one bad decision haunted her and she was punished forever...bumbumbum.  This is exactly the ending for SJ. 

Our heroine JS will not ever want him back its not a matter of forgiveness but rather he's DIRTY!!! I agree a rotten apple must be eliminated SJ words not mine. 

Look forward to their mutual destruction Yuri, SJ and VP. Happy watching y' alll. 

I would like to share with everyone, the hint is ‘set everyone’ free :o) we only live once?  Whatever past mistakes by JS’s mum, since she has come to her senses (regret), it would be a blessing for JS to forgive her. Which I respect what JS’s dad is doing. 
 

love is in the air?

 

“VIP” Teases Blossoming Romance Between Lee Chung Ah And Jung Joon Won

“VIP” Teases Blossoming Romance Between Lee Chung Ah And Jung Joon Won

Dec 15, 2019
by E. Cha

Love may be in the air on SBS’s “VIP”!

As the drama heightens on the popular Monday-Tuesday series, there may also be a sweet new workplace relationship developing between Lee Hyun Ah (played by Lee Chung Ah) and Cha Jin Ho (played by Jung Joon Won).

Spoiler

On the previous episode of “VIP,” Lee Hyun Ah bravely decided to come forward and reveal that she and many of her female co-workers had been sexually assaulted or harassed by their workplace superior Director Bae (played by Jang Hyuk Jin).

After learning that Lee Hyun Ah had barely managed to escape a violent sexual assault by Director Bae, a distraught Cha Jin Ho sought her out at the office. He then apologized sincerely for having continued to pursue her romantically despite repeated rejections and for having taken her rejections lightly. Visibly moved by his heartfelt apology, Lee Hyun Ah appeared to see him in a new light as she thanked him for his words.

On December 14, “VIP” hinted at a blossoming romance between the two co-workers by releasing stills of them shyly holding hands. The newly released photos capture Lee Hyun Ah and Cha Jin Ho leaving the office hand in hand, with Cha Jin Ho unable to hide a giddy smile as they walk somewhere together.

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The producers of “VIP” commented, “Even in an extremely crowded filming location, Lee Chung Ah and Jung Joon Won showed exceptional focus and flawless chemistry throughout filming.”

They went on to tease, “Will Lee Hyun Ah, who said she’s not interested in betting on low odds, and Cha Jin Ho, who couldn’t have been more straightforward in his romantic pursuit, be able to surpass a friendly relationship between co-workers and hit the jackpot? To find out, please keep an eye on the unpredictable changes in the two characters’ relationship.”

The next episode of “VIP” will air on December 16 at 10 p.m. KST. By Soompi

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7 hours ago, EDS said:

I agree a rotten apple must be eliminated SJ words not mine. 

 Curious. I’m sure I missed it along the way but I’m wondering at what point did he say this? Could be important ...what was happening that made him say this?

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56 minutes ago, TXviewer said:

 Curious. I’m sure I missed it along the way but I’m wondering at what point did he say this? Could be important ...what was happening that made him say 

Wasn't it when he was talking to new CEO after sexual harassment issue first came out?

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4 hours ago, TXviewer said:

 Curious. I’m sure I missed it along the way but I’m wondering at what point did he say this? Could be important ...what was happening that made him say this?

 Hi when he was speaking to new CEO about the Director who sexually assaulted Hyun Ah.  

 

9 hours ago, sin hoonsim said:

I would like to share with everyone, the hint is ‘set everyone’ free :o) we only live once?  Whatever past mistakes by JS’s mum, since she has come to her senses (regret), it would be a blessing for JS to forgive her. Which I respect what JS’s dad is doing. 
 

love is in the air?

“VIP” Teases Blossoming Romance Between Lee Chung Ah And Jung Joon Won

Dec 15, 2019
by E. Cha

Love may be in the air on SBS’s “VIP”!

As the drama heightens on the popular Monday-Tuesday series, there may also be a sweet new workplace relationship developing between Lee Hyun Ah (played by Lee Chung Ah) and Cha Jin Ho (played by Jung Joon Won).

Spoiler

On the previous episode of “VIP,” Lee Hyun Ah bravely decided to come forward and reveal that she and many of her female co-workers had been sexually assaulted or harassed by their workplace superior Director Bae (played by Jang Hyuk Jin).

After learning that Lee Hyun Ah had barely managed to escape a violent sexual assault by Director Bae, a distraught Cha Jin Ho sought her out at the office. He then apologized sincerely for having continued to pursue her romantically despite repeated rejections and for having taken her rejections lightly. Visibly moved by his heartfelt apology, Lee Hyun Ah appeared to see him in a new light as she thanked him for his words.

On December 14, “VIP” hinted at a blossoming romance between the two co-workers by releasing stills of them shyly holding hands. The newly released photos capture Lee Hyun Ah and Cha Jin Ho leaving the office hand in hand, with Cha Jin Ho unable to hide a giddy smile as they walk somewhere together.

 

The producers of “VIP” commented, “Even in an extremely crowded filming location, Lee Chung Ah and Jung Joon Won showed exceptional focus and flawless chemistry throughout filming.”

They went on to tease, “Will Lee Hyun Ah, who said she’s not interested in betting on low odds, and Cha Jin Ho, who couldn’t have been more straightforward in his romantic pursuit, be able to surpass a friendly relationship between co-workers and hit the jackpot? To find out, please keep an eye on the unpredictable changes in the two characters’ relationship.”

The next episode of “VIP” will air on December 16 at 10 p.m. KST. By Soompi

Happy to see a least one couple come out unscathed in VIP.  Forgiveness is for the injured but forgetting is really not even possible at this pt SJ character greateast fear is everyone find out he is the product of an illegitimate affair.  Well news flash...that pales in comparison to what he has done and admitted to in the drama.  

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From the polls it looks like almost 70% voted for an ongoing affair and 51% for it being no conspiracy and just a marriage breakdown.  It seems those who voted for an ongoing affair didn't think it was a marriage breakdown.  Anyway i have been consistent from earlier on that is no affair going on between SJ and YR and i voted for YR not being the VP's daughter.

 

I just had some time today and did a re watch of earlier episode. I like @MrsSoJiSub take on 'what characters are and not saying to one another and some things which are not shown and how scenes were cut off which in some ways deliberately mislead us. This makes for an interesting watch even after a second take.  

 

In ep2 at the VIP team gathering SJ gets a message 'Lets meet after this'. At the time everyone was thinking he got the message from the woman he was having an affair with. Later on we see SJ tells JS to head home first as he wants to see the VP off.   JS makes her way home but decides to turn back and saw SJ getting in taxi and followed him.   In the taxi SJ texted 'i'm on my way' he gets off at Hotel Walker. JS gets off right after to follow SJ and the driver made some remarks about its good not knowing which i assume to make the audience believe SJ was really meeting his lover there. The episodes ends with JS calling SJ and asking where he was and caught him lying about the VP being drunk and he is with him but found SJ at the hotel lobby. We only get to see what happens next when the episode 3 airs the following week. Interestingly the start of ep3 did not pick up from where it ended in ep2 but starts off showing us a flashback of how JS fell in love with SJ. Then cuts off to the scene at the end of ep2.  At the hotel lobby SJ received a text: 'Today doesn;t seem like a good day, i'm leaving now, which seem to imply that its the same person who sent SJ the text at the gathering. We were not shown who the text is from. What happened next was the confrontation between JS and SJ. 

 

We only get to find out the person who sent SJ the text at the gathering and who SJ was supposed to meet at the hotel lobby towards the end of ep3. Here scenes were going back and forth from JS chasing after MinA who was actually picking up her kids to SJ who was waiting at a diner. SJ looked tensed and was looking and turning his wedding band. A man came and they exchange envelopes. SJ looked inside the brown envelope then handed the man a white one. After the man left he was sitting there staring at the brown envelope with a clenched jaw. 

 

Then in ep7 after the meeting with Tifone people, VP asked SJ how his order was coming along and he said that it will be over soon. We were shown what the order was when SJ met with a woman who we know later as the VP's mistress. The VP wanted to end the relationship and have her sign a confidentiality agreement. The woman refused at first but SJ showed her a photo of the woman's parents telling her they will know of her illicit relationship with the VP if she doesn;t sign the agreement. We were shown how SJ was feeling sick afterwards. It must have been hard for a kind hearted man like SJ to be doing such things for the VP. We can only assume the photo was from the man who handed SJ the brown envelope in ep3.

 

What SJ felt for YR must have been what he felt for the mistress. That YR could be used and tossed away when no longer needed. There were few instances that tells me YR is not the VP's daughter. The VP and especially YR doesn't look comfortable around each other.  We were show a flashback scene of YR and her mom in July 2008 and her mom was lucid then. That the VP only recently found out he has a daughter is telling. YR's mom have been sick so she could not have contacted the VP to tell him he has a daughter. There was another scene that confused me. It was at the department store diner, SJ met with the VP after his father's funeral. SJ handed the VP an envelope and then we saw the VP's wife storms out of the diner and YR was in the room crying. It only means the VP's wife already knew about YR before she was transferred to the VIP team. Did she know than that she is the VP's daughter? i doubt so. He could have told his wife then if YR was really his daughter. Since in ep9 the VP finds himself in a tight spot because of the video of his wife pouring wine on YR which the VP found out later was the work of his brother. His only solution was to announce YR as his daughter. VP tells his wife that he will lose power at work and that the public will look at it differently if it is a family issue then it being an affair. In a way the wife is complicit in the VP's lie.

 

okay i didn't mean for it to be a long post. Cannot wait for tomorrow's episode. 

 

 

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wow...I did not put together that SJ was waiting at the hotel for the guy with envelop in the cafe. I did thin it was kind of strange that he would wait in a hotel lobby for his mistress. Seems to me he would have gone directly to the room. You could very well have something there.

Why didn’t SJ open up to JS at that time, you say? The show would end too quickly. Got to keep viewers in suspense.:tears:

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Just thinking...

You know? Technically he didn't lie to JS about her not knowing the mistress. He had ended it and she wasn't working in the office yet. Until of course she sent the text. 

 

Maybe he's finally beginning to see he was played? Hence asking YR why she sent the message. Although...duh

 

Please let SOME amazing twist happen in episode 13...

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SJ character knew she sent the text already he has the security footage. Asking is to confirm his beginning suspicions she is not has innocent and weak as she seems. My opinion of course...

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11 minutes ago, EDS said:

SJ character knew she sent the text already he has the security footage. Asking is to confirm his beginning suspicions she is not has innocent and weak as she seems. My opinion of course...

Agreed

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2 hours ago, NAB said:

Just thinking...

You know? Technically he didn't lie to JS about her not knowing the mistress. He had ended it and she wasn't working in the office yet. Until of course she sent the text. 

 

Maybe he's finally beginning to see he was played? Hence asking YR why she sent the message. Although...duh

 

Please let SOME amazing twist happen in episode 13...

You are absolutely correct. They had supposedly broken up before “that girl” became part of the team. But JS did ask him again. Didn’t she? On the bench by the wall and at the kitchen table?

On pins and needles waiting for next episode.

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8 minutes ago, TXviewer said:

You are absolutely correct. They had supposedly broken up before “that girl” became part of the team. But JS did ask him again. Didn’t she? On the bench by the wall and at the kitchen table?

On pins and needles waiting for next episode.

He did. But he probably figured that would have been too difficult to explain...(well...ain't enough explaining for  cheating)

I get it now why he said to YR in the car that, " It would leave too big a scar if JS knew it was her (YR)." He had said she didn't know the mistress. 

Oh well...spinning my wheels,killing time. The next two episodes should be huge...usually are at this point in a 16 episode KDrama. Big revelations,then a snag, then...tada all solved/fixed.

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SJS character has been lying to her since they were dating 1. His family history his Dad is dead is a lie, 2. Every time he said he was working late with the VP etc. with Yuri. 3. if its over with Yuri/affair 4. Do I know the person? 5. Yuri is VP daughter 6. Who wrote the text? 7. Then mistress works in her own department as her subordinate currently LIE again!

Etc no particular order most liars get caught cause they cant keep up one lie to cover another lie,  

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Just throwing it out there: Having been married all those years, don't you think JS & hang-dog's mom would have discussed some things? They seemed close & I have a hard time believing that JS didn't know a thing about hang-dog's past. And his mom's remark at the dinner table about what she would do if he ever had an affair.

 

I had a dream (credit to MLK for that line) that JS was in a confrontation with hang-dog.

   JS whipped a photo out & threw it at him. Hesitantly, he picked it. 

   "Did you actually think I didn't know anything about your past?" she spat out softly through gritted teeth. "Did I appear that naive to you?"

   In disbelief, SJ looked from the photo to JS.

   "Then it must be a terrible shock to you to learn that I've known everything about you from the very beginning, " she continued, her voice now becoming a whisper. "But because I loved you I waited for you to come to me - to trust me - to believe in me." Her voice grew stronger. "But you never did. You never shared yourself with me as I shared myself with you."

   JS stepped back. "For 10 years I waited for you. You were good - really good in your role as a loving husband." 

   She lifted her shoulders & a faint trace of sorrow appeared in her eyes. "Good job, SJ. Good job." She smiled softly then turned & walked away. SJ could only look after her in disbelief.

  

 

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Just watched LSY on Masters in the House episode 98. It was so great to see him smiling and laughing. Told my husband they have something in common...they both snore.

 

@Takingthehighroad 

You must have been an English teacher!

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