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  1. 1. Was there an affair?

    • No, there was no affair. It was one sided on Yoo Ri's part
    • Yes, there was an ongoing affair.
    • It was a one night stand.
  2. 2. The Conspiracy Theory

    • Yoo Ri is not the real daughter but the VP's mistress.
    • Sung Joon is doing this for his own gain ( to advance his career).
    • The VP hired Yoo Ri to destroy the Sung Joon - Jung Sun.
    • This is a high-end escort service.
    • There really is no conspiracy - just a marriage breaking down.

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I don’t know how they will successfully finish this up in 4 episodes. I do feel like some things are coming to a head.

JS standing up for herself with VP and YR.

SJ beginning to bring to light issues within company-sexual harassment. I’m sure more will be revealed. The arrival of new CEO may mark changes in the company.
Women giving a united front on above issue.

Mina and hubby reconciled.

Hyung Ah smiling as she walks off from Mr. Cha.
Still wondering about role of the young guy on the team.

Unfortunately, k dramas are famous for doing a quick wrap up in the last episode.

I hope we get  a good ending. Sometimes a good ending isn’t a happy ending but a realistic ending. (Brings to mind “Mr. Sunshine”)
Seems to me there should be some people going to jail.

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Interesting how the VP's wife called JS. Looks like it's women unite! Which  considering today's climate...it's great.

SJ is so confusing...sometimes he shows that he cares about his wife...don't transfer JS she's the  victim but then he proclaims he'll stay with YR. He's such a ....

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7 hours ago, nhh said:

After reading dramamilk recap and thought for today's episode and some other translator that the VP wife told JS she has not totally lost her husband, I think this is what happen.

 

Yuri is not the VP's daughter, but his mistress.  He want to keep her close, and make her the sole heir of sung un dept store by admitting she is his daughter. SJ probably was instructed by the VP to make Yuri falls in love with him (but I donno for what reason lol). Most probably to make sure Yuri did not make any noise abt her own relationship with the VP and she will obey whatever SJ (and the VP) told her to do.

But Yuri really falls in love with SJ and a bit too much, she unintentionally include JS in the their plan to take over sung un dept store. And also JS is no ordinary woman, she fights back. So thats why the VP is sending her away. But why SJ so adamantly did not tell JS of all these, is still a mystery lol. Most probably he does not want JS to be involved in the dirty work he has been doing for the sake of power and status.

Makjang full blown eh. I should become a script writer. Wont say anything anymore I just need to let this out lol.

im agree with you, yuri is still mysterious in here. i've questions abt yuri now that it is strange just to look yuri as vp daugther or mistress

1. how her mom became mental breakdown and had to be taking care in hospital. im sure the writer show us how yuri lived with her mom in epi 12 is something that can make us connect it with another thing in next episode

2. how she met VP for first time i mean if she is his daugther, did they do DNA test? we know how VP make sure on his mistress in previous epi

3. why VP wife said PSJ actually not fully taken by yuri (what she mean by this) and why she tell NJS abt this

4. if she is his daugther of rich family how VP can easily agree to PSJ date his daugther and just ask PSJ to divorce his wife, as a father that just met his daugther when she already as adult, dont he have feeling to give the best for his daugther? arrange for blind date with man from other rich family for example, so his daugther can forget PSJ (like this is very common in Kdrama right? in heirs lee min ho, son of mistress has kim ji won as his fiancee from rich family too)

5. the way the VP put his hands on yuri in a car in epi 10 is not like father to daugther. why he met yuri in hotel room, not in better place if she is his daugther? why he didnt give her apartment from the beginning?

6. if yuri is his mistress why VP take a risk to bring her to family dinner that make yuri will put on family register as heirs? we know how VP cant trust his mistress in prev episode.

7. if VP keep mistress yuri as his daugther why he didnt angry when PSJ said will be beside yuri and just asking him divorcing NJS so he can date yuri. what kind of man this vp is? i know he can have many mistress as he like, but let his mistress that he want to keep to date his right hand man is still strange for me.

yuri is VP mistress or daugther still a big question for me.

btw JNR said vip main pd, has to lose weight because editing process, i can understand know, i hope every details she give in each episode is match with the writer way to wrap this story ( i hope she didnt give us unnecessary details)

 

 

 

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From last night episode it seem like Mina & Hyuna know about JS affair. Hoping that they will help her get her sweet revenge. 

 

Side Note : I still am not watching this drama. just reading the comment and the discussion is good enough for me

 

Good luck to the other risking their BP for this drama

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30 minutes ago, vinsensa_1 said:

im agree with you, yuri is still mysterious in here. i've questions abt yuri now that it is strange just to look yuri as vp daugther or mistress

1. how her mom became mental breakdown and had to be taking care in hospital. im sure the writer show us how yuri lived with her mom in epi 12 is something that can make us connect it with another thing in next episode

2. how she met VP for first time i mean if she is his daugther, did they do DNA test? we know how VP make sure on his mistress in previous epi

3. why VP wife said PSJ actually not fully taken by yuri (what she mean by this) and why she tell NJS abt this

4. if she is his daugther of rich family how VP can easily agree to PSJ date his daugther and just ask PSJ to divorce his wife, as a father that just met his daugther when she already as adult, dont he have feeling to give the best for his daugther? arrange for blind date with man from other rich family for example, so his daugther can forget PSJ (like this is very common in Kdrama right? in heirs lee min ho, son of mistress has kim ji won as his fiancee from rich family too)

5. the way the VP put his hands on yuri in a car in epi 10 is not like father to daugther. why he met yuri in hotel room, not in better place if she is his daugther? why he didnt give her apartment from the beginning?

6. if yuri is his mistress why VP take a risk to bring her to family dinner that make yuri will put on family register as heirs? we know how VP cant trust his mistress in prev episode.

7. if VP keep mistress yuri as his daugther why he didnt angry when PSJ said will be beside yuri and just asking him divorcing NJS so he can date yuri. what kind of man this vp is? i know he can have many mistress as he like, but let his mistress that he want to keep to date his right hand man is still strange for me.

yuri is VP mistress or daugther still a big question for me.

btw JNR said vip main pd, has to lose weight because editing process, i can understand know, i hope every details she give in each episode is match with the writer way to wrap this story ( i hope she didnt give us unnecessary details)

 

 

 

 

Or Yuri is just this girl the VP and SJ pick from the street for their grand plan to take over the company and not really the VP's mistress. Yuri is now on the family registry, they are almost there. She probably threatened SJ  &VP she will reveal all, thats why the VP asked him to stick with her. But with the plot twist that the new CEO is there and asked SJ to join her team, SJ can actually break free from all this next. Just some wild and random thoughts.

 

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A good news atleast for vip is that. 

 

We officialy had Highest peak rating Of SBS drama in 2nd half of 2019 with 13.2% surpassing Vagabond with 13% !!

 

Atleast it is a win for all vip team and the fans! 

 

Lets hope we can surpass 15% before the drama end. For a monday tuesday this is pretty high rating. It will be also interesting that the next week we got a new challenger with chief of staff 2 and catch the ghost ending. It will be daily life of prosecutor and black dog. 

 

Lets end it on a good note so our jung sun can be smiling :)

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3 hours ago, peachfuzz said:

 

You and me both... 

At this point, I seriously question if he ever loved his wife...

 

3 hours ago, NAB said:

I wanted to punch his face....hugging and consoling her the way he NEVER did for his wife.

 Another hands is coming lets punch him together :rage:

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Regarding Yuri as the VP's mistress. I distinctly I remember his wife saying that he's just using that as a cover up so he appears to be the benevolent father rather than a disgusting cheater in the public's eye. The wife wouldn't be so livid otherwise. And I agree, that lingering hand hold from ep 10 was another obvious clue. The fact that Yuri looked so conflicted and panicked when the chairman announced that she's part of the family registry is also telling. Also, would a father be okay that their daughter is having an affair with a married man? He would be more protective of her, and against her making bad life choices. Would he even approve of SJ as her husband if she's really his daughter? SJ isn't someone from money, and he's practically his butler. That he was willing to let her go so easily to SJ tells me that he doesn't really see her as his own blood. She's but a mere pawn in his game. Everything so far just doesn't add up to her being his illegitimate daughter. Yuri is someone who's desperate enough to text her lover's wife about their affair, so I wouldn't put it pass her to do anything, including sleeping with the VP, to get what she wants.

 

On a better note, I want to commend the entire Hyunah's heroine arc and taking her autonomy back from the evil clutches of her sexual abuser and bigoted men. She's the best of them, and her outfits are always on point. Should've known SJ is a dumb dumb right from the start for rejecting her. B)

 

And while Jang Nara's character is taking a backseat in this episode, I've been meaning to add that her acting is superb in this drama. I've watched her often in romantic comedy before, but she's superb in this dramatic role. I feel her pain and broken soul every time she looks at SJ as JS. I love that her makeup gets darker and darker with each episode, to reflect her change of outlook. It's small details like this that makes a drama great.

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6 minutes ago, NAB said:

What's everyone's take on the preview comments between JS and SJ about being in hell...going to hell together?

She's said that before, and I think this is someone who's done being the victim. That if she has to bear all of this pain, she's going to drag the person who caused her the most pain with her through the mud. Like what she said to the VP, she's protecting herself. Now, I don't see her going down this path for long. I think she'll eventually calm down and plan a better path forward. But I like vengeful JS more than self-pity JS, so off to hell we go!

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@vinsensa_1 @nhh I'm thinking the same. Something fishy is going on. If YR is not VP daughter, then either she was hired to act like one so that VP gets the company or she was VP former mistress. I'm going with the former because if she was VP former mistress, then he won't let SJ off the hook easily. But If she was hired then it would explain why he would need SJ to be the middle man since he trusts him. Unfortunately, VP plans went south when his dad announced his sister as the CEO and also SJ affair with YR. If this is truly the case, then I won't be surprised if it was SJ who came up with the plan and now, things are out of control. 

 

But then again, I won't be surprised if the writer sticks to the current plot of YR being VP daughter:weary:. My expectations were too high when I started this drama and that's why I'm disappointed that it just came to SJ having an affair with a spoiled brat who wanted something that didn't belong to her just because her life was shitty :unamused:. Everyone works hard to get what they have. I have no tolerance for people who break other people's marriage:rage:.

 

@Samuel YohanesY I'm glad the ratings are going high. Looks like a lot of people like the drama and wants to rip SJ to pieces lol:sweat_smile::mrgreen:

 

@fieza1871 I still haven't watched this week's episode. I think I'm gonna skip it because my poor phone might become a victim lol:lol:.

 

Ohh yeah, SJ mom. I wonder what she will do to SJ and YR when she finds out. I pray that she kept the words she spoke of. I'm gonna have my popcorn ready:D

 

Thanks everyone for the posts and recaps:blush:

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On 12/4/2019 at 11:09 AM, lebeaucouple said:

A statistic shown that, men tend to protect the weakest one, if a woman is too strong, he knows that she can survive by her own and he will tend to choose the weaker one simply because he knows he is in an important position to that woman and thus he can feel the needs required by that woman. 

 

Wow it was so good on today ep 12....i must give thumbs up to the writer as it acted accordingly to my post mentioned above (post on page 34)....the next EP will show JS slap YR for destroying their marriage but the husband protects and consoles YR even though she is at fault. I am very sure the writer has done much researches and homework to prepare for this drama in particular for this sensitive topic "Affair".

 

I must applaud the two plot that shown in EP 12 :

 

1. Few women stood up to fight for their rights being a victim of workplace harassment. It took great courageous to do that , and HA and Mina did that. Bravo !!!

 

2. JS went into the VP room to confront and fight for her rights, i like this phrase : "when you have nothing to lose, you have nothing to be afraid of..." Girl, fighting !!!

 

I will not analyse SJ role and background as many already mentioned in the earlier post. But what i do believe the writer (not sure man or woman) has a good and deep understanding on men topic. Research tells us that men need to feel competent more than they need support.

 

I met a professional advisor in a seminar which he mentioned that men have their vulnerability moment, and that mostly driven by a deep fear of incompetence. Or powerlessness. 

 

The main difference between men and women who receive supportive behaviors, e.g. empathy, while women receive support and mostly pour out our feeling or become talkative, it decreases stress. When men receive support, it has little or no impact on their stress. Why? Coming home at the end of the day and talking about work with the wife doesn't help much as there is still a problem to resolve at work. The husband feel that talking about the work often doesn't help much. It will only burden the family with the problems he should be able to manage by his own. The keyword is what reduces men's stress is feeling competent. If a man has repeated conflict in his marriage or relationship, then his brain will always associate these conflicts with failure and powerlessness. Men are NOT good in coping with emotional distress, they can only drink with close friends or do spots quietly.  Statistic shown that men died faster than women and i think this is quite true. Perhaps men need to take practice to understand their strong sense of self-worth without accomplishing anything, and their partner must feel validated and understood, of course this takes both hands to clap.

 

So for SJ, he need to feel competent to handle work given by VP and now the female chairman (both wanted him badly to be on their side), even though he may fail his marriage, he needs the power and recognition from his work. There are many types of men, some prefer career and social status to marriage. But Mina husband choose family, may be due to his position not high in IT dept, unlike SJ already a senior position in management team. 

 

I like this drama is not on any emotional aspect, but more on thoughts provoking especially on men and women relationship in both ends of the spectrum:wub:

 

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The "gift" the VP's wife gives JS is the idea that the VP and SJ are too close for the VP to let him go.  JS doesn't seem to know all the personal errands SJ has done for the VP, but SJ knows too much and could blackmail the VP if it came to that.  If JS could figure this out, she could probably send them both to jail.

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I think JS has resigned herself to the fact that she has lost her husband.  She is not happy but she will not allow them to bring her down due to their sordid affair.  She is strong and will protect herself.  Like she told the VP, she will not go down alone.  The look on SJ's face was great to see as he stood and watched their interaction.  I think he was surprised to see JS react that way.  She was not disrespectful, but managed to get her point across.  I love how she handled that.  She is strong and a force to be reckoned with. 

 

When JS was in the elevator and the doors opened and SJ was standing there, her eyes could have stared a hole right through him.  I am sure he could feel the depth of her soul right then.  He knows they are done for good now.  If all of this mess was just a charade to take down the bad guys in the company, and he was keeping it a secret from JS so it would look real, then he really messed up.  No redemption for the pain he has caused her.  He will have no chance of going back even if he wanted to.

 

SJ has to make a decision as to which team he should be on.  Will he choose the VP or the Chairman?  The VP has told him that he needs him on his team.  The Chairman also wants him on her team because she knows he was the VP's right hand man.  She is also getting updates regarding SJ from D. Choi.  She knows there is something going on with the VP and also between SJ and Yuri.  I believe she will find out all about his affair and what the VP tried to do to JS.  I'm sure she wants to find out all the dirt on the VP and the brother from SJ.  If SJ truly loves Yuri, he will side with the VP.  If he is in this for his career then he will choose the Chairman.  No matter what he chooses, I think he will be on the loosing end when all the dirt comes to the surface.  I believe the new Chairman is there to clean house and make a new start with the company.  She said she was not there as the Chairman's daughter but as a professional business man.

 

The pot calling the kettle black.  I am not sure how SJ can side with HA because of the sexual harassment case and give a report to the Chairman as to how they can handle the situation.  He says they need to be honest and apologize and amend their policies.   He thinks getting rid of the bad apple which spoils the whole bunch will help the company in the long run.  Does he feel that having an affair with the VP's daughter and them working on the same team with is wife is ethical?  Other employees were fired for that same reason.  Also, what about all the dirty work he as done for the VP.  Is he willing to get rid of all the bad apples that are already there.  If so, he should be included in that bunch.

 

I loved seeing the girls night together.  The healing has begun for all of them.  Still some hard times ahead but they have each other.  I would go to work the next day and brag about our night and make sure Yuri knows she was not included.  The only issue with that is SW may be hurt inadvertently.

 

Preview for next week.  Looks like JS is the one who has to announce Yuri's promotion.  Can it get any worse than that.  Will the new Chairman allow this promotion to happen.   A person without any qualifications should not be promoted no matter who her parents are, until they have proven themselves.  They need to send her away to study business management then once she graduates she can return to the company.  I don't see the others on the team sitting still if Yuri gets the promotion that should have been JS's.  

 

As of now, I think JS and SJ will get their divorce.  Yuri will be sent off to study.  JS will be happy in the future and SJ will live a life of regret.  

 

 

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3 hours ago, redpome said:

Lover". The caracter of the husband is a little bit similar. Fall in the pity younger girl. Can not holding the wife's hand when the wife is still in pain of losing their child. 

I checked out this show. It has 50 episodes and commander Min of Dae Jang Geum has played cheating husband a few times. VIP has 16 episodes and I don't think they have the time to change the story because we want to crucify those two bipeds.

 

According to the chats, the trajectory of the series was that the main girl ended up with the second lead. But the husband was getting so much hate mails that the writer had to change it. 
 

We have to be ready for JS to become the CEO of Tifone or their rival company- without a husband.

When YR had lunch with her new family, she was supposed to meet SJ but she turned off her phone. Is this an omen that he will be dumped by the illegitimate turned heiress? I wonder how she will  pay for breaking a marriage. But no way is she a mistress of the CEO. Who would share their mistress knowingly?

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4 hours ago, DL Wetherill said:

So as I continue to process the last two episodes I’m thinking about this

1. SJ knows all of the VP’s dirty dealings and has been involved in them many no doubt illegal. So the VP wants to keep him close. 
2. Now SJ may begin to see with finding out YR sending the text, that she is not so innocent and helpless as she pretends.

3. YR’s tears everytime she is trying to get what she wants and it’s not going her way. That’s going to get old fast.

4. The VP and the rest of that family doesn’t know SJ is the product of a mistress.It seems that those families always try to hook the heirs up to influential families that can do something for their company. So even though YR is the product of an unmarried relationship, SJ’s background may not go over well. If he thinks his half siblings were brutal...I’m betting the VP and family will be far worse.

5. YR’s promotion is not going to go well and if she thinks she’s not liked before....just watch what happens when that and the betrayal of JS gets revealed.

6. I’m convinced that JS wouldn’t be at all upset about SJ’s background and I’m convinced she still loves him.

7. SJ’s mother probably still doesn’t know what is happening with JS and I’m sure will be upset. Plus it is highly possible that SJ’s background will be revealed and his mother will get hurt in the process.

8. If YR never sent that Text message this could have been repaired without all the pain.

 

9. And finally what if YR isn’t really the VP’s real daughter. Once the Family Registry was mentioned and the fact she could inherit it all. You know someone will run a DNA test. If YR knew the VP and her Mom dated I wouldn’t put it past her to fabricate something to get a better life. She’s a real weasel.

What does everyone think?

Your last idea of YR not being his daughter is a legit one. If anyone could be a scam artist, she could.  I also think she still loves him bit its over.  The damage is now irreparable.  He is on a path of destruction for sure or at least i hope so!!!!  

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4 hours ago, maribella said:

That thread of him throwing up in the lane just ended there. I guess another red herring.

 

I was reading a list of Korean dramas one shouldn't watch because the endings are 'bad'. i.e. sad or open ended or just plain what the heck. 'What happened in Bali' is the worst I think. But I have not seen such shows lately, 'stairways to heaven' type. I hope we don't get it here. The writer must believe there is a natural balance of good and bad. Much as I hope that SJ falls flat on his face, but that would hurt JS too since she still loves him despite her revenge mode. 
 

I checked back the blurp on this show, it says mystery drama. :anguished: The show has been about marriage, love, illegitimacy but very little on corporate shenanigans. If it turned out SJ is some hero, faking his concern for YR, really protecting JS etc. etc... :smirk: I'd better start looking for an ugly dog avatar. But I think there's a snowball chance in hell of that happening. He has burned his bridges.

Lol!  There is no way he can be redeemed.   He may be a corporate spy for someone, who knows. The one thing that we can be sure of he is a lame blank looking rotten cheating bast...and that is being nice.  He is calculating though.  If this better catch hadn't shown up he would still be with JS, cuz for him, that is what its about. I really don't think he knows what love is.

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2 hours ago, nhh said:

 

Or Yuri is just this girl the VP and SJ pick from the street for their grand plan to take over the company and not really the VP's mistress. Yuri is now on the family registry, they are almost there. She probably threatened SJ  &VP she will reveal all, thats why the VP asked him to stick with her. But with the plot twist that the new CEO is there and asked SJ to join her team, SJ can actually break free from all this next. Just some wild and random thoughts.

 

i like your "VP grand plan", yuri could be the girl that vp pick to secure his position to take over the company. Since he know his brother doesnt have child, and it look only his sister is the big threat for him, but i think she didnt have kids too.

And this theory seem match with every fact we already know so far compare with mistress and daugther theories. but still there is question what make SJ chose to be by yuri side? i think it is not VP who asked him, because he said first to VP that he chose to be by yuri side. is it because he feel guilty involving yuri in this grand plan? and why did he go this far? watching last episode seem SJ really carefully asking why yuri send message to his wife. If the conspiracy theory is true, i can understand why SJ keep silent and keep all secrets from his wife, and the situation developed  pushed him to sacrifice his marriage even we know he didnt want to lose his wife like this (he said in episode 3)

I hope this conspiracy theory become true, this make me enjoy "vip" like any mystery drama :)

 

btw i think the writer has a purpose by showing vp sister in "very late" episode, maybe she want to use vp sis character to help wrap the story. And VP father seem sense something fishy with his son thats why he asked his daugther comeback help him.

 

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