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  1. 1. Was there an affair?

    • No, there was no affair. It was one sided on Yoo Ri's part
    • Yes, there was an ongoing affair.
    • It was a one night stand.
  2. 2. The Conspiracy Theory

    • Yoo Ri is not the real daughter but the VP's mistress.
    • Sung Joon is doing this for his own gain ( to advance his career).
    • The VP hired Yoo Ri to destroy the Sung Joon - Jung Sun.
    • This is a high-end escort service.
    • There really is no conspiracy - just a marriage breaking down.

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Thanks SyH for the video. It does my heart good to see them laughing and getting along.

I noticed LSY was drinking wine between takes.

 

Samuel, is this the part (flashbacks) where JS asks SJ if they still have a chance? I’m such a baby I can’t stand the wait.

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35 minutes ago, TXviewer said:

Thanks SyH for the video. It does my heart good to see them laughing and getting along.

I noticed LSY was drinking wine between takes.

 

Samuel, is this the part (flashbacks) where JS asks SJ if they still have a chance? I’m such a baby I can’t stand the wait.

now that i think about it. i think it is !!!!

 

so it was in the past. thanks for reminding me. 

 

so it is true that jung sun ask sj for a chance sadly it was too late because we all knew what happen to both the couple

 

in case anyone want to read the raw recap

Spoiler

so it was revealed that jungsun does expect a baby but had a miscariage ( i guess because i am watching raw )  i think it was a daughter.and then jungsun mood goes very very bad. and sungjun tried to comfort jung sun. and jungsun said a lot while crying. her mood still is not good 

 

after that she seems to be distanced with sung jun. but then as most predicted. the Father death happen near with jung sun miscariage. so she dont go with sung jun. 

 

then jungsun meet her friend from early episode

 

she had a deep talk and then after that she goes to baby room and turn off the light and lock it. most likely she move on from the miscariage and tried for reconcile with sung jun after the brief distanced while she grieving. 

 

it was all the flashback for today. 

 

and then go back to the vip team meeting with the little girl from the last empress had a party concept meeting with all the team ( minus sung jun )

 

sung jun had a talk with the vp the atmosphere seems tense. after the talk he go outside and meet yuri and then had another talk with her but he just stay polite and yuri do most of the talk

 

mina meet her husband and had a talk ( i dont know what they talk about but i guess about the baby )

 

and then jung sun is in 1 elevator with yuri and had talk just like the preview.

 

the scene goes to the kids party nothing much happen 

 

just hyunah meet with the guy who always looking for her and seems smiling.

 

and then hyunah talk with mina about the director ( just like preview )

 

yuri had an interview with the hyunah suitor

 

end of ep 21

 

the party continues and jungsun had a talk with the little girl.

 

sung jun is on the party and greet the vp and then vp+yuri goes to the car.

 

and then on the car the vp got a call and suddenly he yelled 

 

and we got to the news about ??? but i saw a picture of girl pregnant on the tv.

 

the vp had a talk with other director(?) and then talk with yuri.

 

mina goes to a night bar and met the shady director but i believe her husband is on the tail because he saw her catching a taxi earlier

 

she seems to confroting him and then he goes sexual harrasment try to rip mina clothes 

 

and then her husband goes inside and beat the fck out of the director and mina ask him to stop

 

and then we go to funeral of yuri mother i think she was grieving

 

yuri call sung jun he denied at first and then accept it. she talk aboout her mother die and crying in the phone. ( this happen in front of his house )

 

jung sun at home and then sung jun goes inside and had a talk with jung sun

 

they had a deep talk i guess about their broken marriage the tone.

 

it is really deep i think and the mood goes upswing.from shouting each other and sung jun is actually angry too until he goes melo talk

 

i miss the last talk they had because of the buffer but then sung jun goes to yuri. and she cried a lot and talk oppa oppa and he comfort her and said ill be beside you. just like the preview..

 

SO I GUESS the house deep talk result is not good. i want to know what they are talking about 

 

PREVIEW

 

it seems that both couple already act like stranger.

 

jung sun had a talk with vp

 

yuri holding sungjun hand and said something.

 

THE SHADY director IS trying to take of HYUNAH CLOTHES WTFFF!!!!!

 

wow guess the healing part would be hard after this episode

the award for the most hateable character would be the shady director. Hot damn he is on this and the preview. very unforgivable.

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@Samuel YohanesY.... Thanks for the summary:wub:. So that scene was from the past. What a mess. How on earth are they gonna wrap this up? But first of all, they need to TALK. 

 

From the preview, if the VP is angry then something happened and it doesn't look good. Serves him right. 

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Thanks a lot @Samuel Yohanes friend for live recapping tonight's eps! I am so tired & didn't even effort to watch the live stream! But looks like a lot is happening! :o This time I have to watch it with eng sub!!! :D :D

 

So this scene is a flashback of their dark past??! Sung Jun is so blank even in here!!! What's going on? Then has he been dirty from the beginning??! Poor Na Jung Sun... :tears: Can't wait to know!

 

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And I got the hunch from last week's eps that the shady director is having racy thoughts about Song Mi Na!!! :ph34r: These women are so helpless!!! Then what's gonna happen with her & her husband??! Seriously, this is so depressing! :(

 

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34 minutes ago, gm4queen said:

Thanks a lot @Samuel Yohanes friend for live recapping tonight's eps! I am so tired & didn't even effort to watch the live stream! But looks like a lot is happening! :o This time I have to watch it with eng sub!!! :D :D

 

So this scene is a flashback of their dark past??! Sung Jun is so blank even in here!!! What's going on? Then has he been dirty from the beginning??! Poor Na Jung Sun... :tears: Can't wait to know!

 

 

And I got the hunch from last week's eps that the shady director is having racy thoughts about Song Mi Na!!! :ph34r: These women are so helpless!!! Then what's gonna happen with her & her husband??! Seriously, this is so depressing! :(

 

so here is what happen. 

 

1. they had a baby and they seems to be a very happy couple

2. and then the miscarriage happen ( idk how it happen ) it is so sudden and jung sun greatly depressed.

3. she seems like zombie and cant move on from the baby. sung jun tried to comfort her but no chance.

4. and then sung jun father die on the same timeline with jungsun miscariage. he ask her to join him but she dont come with him

5. and then she had a deep talk with the guy friend from early episode 

6. after the talk she move on from the baby and tried to metaphor it with turning of the lamp and lock the baby room. 

7. that preview scene when jungsun ask for another chance for both of them.

 

timing is everything everyone.

 

and from now on i believe that mina and hyunah had nothing to do with sung jun. it purely between him and yuri all along. 

 

damn i wish i got the sub so i can know what they are talking about

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So this could be called rationalisation of adultery episode?  The writer has to come up with a better excuse for SJ to drop his pants for YR.  It means he has been cheating for years - we don't know how long ago the father had died but JS took a long time to get over the miscarriage. Really, I don't understand why stay in a marriage just to hurt your wife and the woman you love. :rage:
 

Thank you for the recap @Samuel Yohanes

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I just want to flip the table after watching the last scene from SJ and JS's talk to the end. I'm still holding a hope that they will forgive and giving each other another chance before watching tonight episode but now I just wished they will end their marriage asap before JS getting more hurts.

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If I understand correctly, something was wrong with the baby’s heart. 

 

22 minutes ago, gm4queen said:

Sung Jun is so blank even in here!!!

I think you should watch first instead of relying only on a picture. He walked across the room to her who was standing at the door, took her hands in his, gave her assurance and hugged her. 

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so it was september 2018 when they had the baby for 4 months.

 

and then after the miscarriage jung sun sleep on the baby room  until april 2019.

 

hot damn thats a long time for her to grieving. 

 

and thats when sung jun had to go to funeral of his dad. 

 

and after the talk she finally decide to move back to sleep with sung jun.

 

so her relationship with sung jun has been cracked for almost a year.. 

 

and the friend said that sung jun always checking for her. ever since she goes full depressed.

 

 

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So this episode is the death of me! Just reading the recap is already depressing. How much more when I watched it. Our poor heart! The writer is so mean! How could they wrap this up with forgiveness and maturity when they already hurt each other this badly. Anyhow, infidelity is unforgivable in my book no matter the reasons...Ajah Na Jungsun! I will cheer for Lee Sang Yoon too for the hate he is getting...kkkk....but for Sungjun....Go away....far far away! I hope the likes of you won’t multiply in this world...but sadly....even in my own family...

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29 minutes ago, SyH said:

LIVE RECAP EP 11 BY DRAMAMILK

tqvm for the live recap.

 

Thanks for the live recap of VIP Ep 11 (21/22), Part 1 @SyH.

 

 

Now, here's a live recap of  VIP Ep 11 (21/22), Part 2 by DRAMAMILK:

 

 

Thanks to all Soompiers for live recaps of Ep 11 too!:glasses:

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I read the recap and OMG I'm in tears:bawling:. How did it come to this? I can't believe he left like that:(. Their marriage is really over:tears: .

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On 12/7/2019 at 1:03 PM, TXviewer said:

Can someone help me? I swear I saw in flashbacks the person in that car the SJ was talking to about sending the text. I won’t say who it was but I can’t find the episode.

I’d say I was dreaming but because of this show I haven’t been sleeping.  Which episode was,please? Thanks

It was episode 9. When we see the revelations of how the 2 got close. 

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Thanks smlinwa. I found it yesterday.

 

as much as I was pulling for them to reconcile this is the end.

my one hope is that SJ and “that girl” do not get together permanently.

 

although I have not been one to want JS to wind up with Daniel, I now say “bring him on!”

 

I hope LSY does not take on any more roles like this. My heart can’t stand it.

 

i haven’t been this devastated since “Mr. Sunshine”.

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On 12/7/2019 at 8:29 PM, DL Wetherill said:

I’ve been rewatching all the episodes and now I’m convinced I still don’t know who the affair was really with. I’m back to suspecting Mi-Na because it seems like SJ knows about her baby when he said so you have decided? Color me totally confused...bring on the Tylenol and some alcohol lol. Oh and Monday please 

I think she told him her secret from a boss-employee standpoint. I think she wants a promotion and she confided in him about it. I don’t think those 2 have anything going on. 

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Did not read spoilers. Relying only on pics and unsubbed clips.....still don't think there was an affair *shrugs*. SJ is lying. What he is doing now is not what he wants to be doing/what he truly desires. In some twisted way he actually believes he's protecting JS by doing all this. So, again, my biggest curiosity is what are the terrible deeds he has done for the VP that he feels that doing all of this to JS, is better than her finding out!?!??? 

 

In every conversation of "why?" SJ deflects and even to his friend he made it sound like there is something (not an "affair") that he never wants JS (or the world to find out) to know because it would prove he's not what/who he seems/everyone thinks he is. I don't think it's just the whole "I'm a bastard, literally."  or "I find mistresses and pay them off for the VP". I wonder what was in the envelope he paid off that one person a while back to claim (I don't think it's just YR is VP's child secret). Whatever SJ has done, he feels he's in too deep to stop now. 

 

The writer better give us a good pay off. I swear if all of this was really just an affair, I will be livid. Such good set up and unfolding of stories; just to be an affair. That's too basic (and honestly a bit. waste of time and dragging) for all this lol. 

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I've lived with a person suffering from depression before and it's hard. I can understand how a marriage could be affected because of it. I could even understand how SJ might be swayed during such a time, but I don't understand how he could cheat, make his wife work with the person he cheated with, fall in love (or think he has) with Yuri, and risk everything at work to stay by her side. It does not compute, and I think a large part of that is because SJ is so blank and he and Yuri have no chemistry. 

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Much as I dislike the two cheaters now have each other and JS is alone, it is an opening for JS to get away from those two and the company. We may get to see a gleam of her future.

 

It would feel good if the 3 get their comeuppance.

 

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I think the writer is now showing how alone YR is and she used to live sadly, all to whitewash her so we wouldn't have broken PCs and ipads when the two announce their wedding. :)

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