[Drama 2019] V.I.P, 브이아이피

[Samuel Yohanes]

1 hour ago, maribella said:

@gm4queen He was in the road to airport ( sounding sort of). It was also an adulterous show with him as an adulterer. I could not watch it, I think it was trying a bit hard to show that adulterers are regular people.  There were children involved. It seemed quite popular. The few forum postings that I had read seemed to think their relationship was treated well. 

 

Here we need to totally reject the adulterer and fornicator, so the writer will dare not give them any hope for a happy life together. Does anyone know what the reception is like in Korea? Writers and directors are more receptive to their opinions, makes sense of course. 
 

Another adulterous show was about a woman who had artificial insemination with ex husband ( the adulterer) to produce baby number 2, and harvest him to save son number 1. In this show, he was thoroughly penitent, though he married the woman, they were both miserable and miscarried galore.

 

I am not sure I want a remorseful SJ at the end. As long as JS leaves and moves on to a better and happier future, I would end this show happily.

Fun fact. The rating is rising high after the secret is out. Double digit now. I think this drama will peak at 15%+ and beat vagabond peak rating.

 

Jang Na Ra is a magnet rating for sure. Her latest drama The last empress is also huge in rating. And tbh this affair is nothing compared to the last empress. 

 

That one is just ........... from beginning from fake love / kids / makjang mother and actually having affair that he didnt even try to hide with the secretary. 

 

For the blank part i think that maybe thats how his character supposed to be. I enjoyed his performance in whisper with lee bo young. But yeah he master those blank looks and thats one plus point from him because he can look innocent from doing just that

[ktcjdrama]

1 hour ago, gm4queen said:

But I think Lee Sang Yoon is a popular south korean actor among viewers.. This is my very 1st Lee Sang Yoon drama & I don't think I'd watch his dramas again..  He is so blank & depressing! He should do pleasant dramas so that he can gain more fans for him!

You’ll be missing out then... Try watch him in Twenty Again. I can promise you he is a good guy there. 

[Guest]

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For discussion sake , I don't know if anyone here has seen My Wife is Having An Affair. Lee Sang Yoon's character or rather his lack of emotions here remind me of the female lead's character there as well. It was intentional as the first half of the drama focussed alot on the how her husband reacted to her affair and alot of it was told from the husband's perspective. So initially her character seemed emotionless and it was really hard to empathise or understand what led to the affair especially because there was a child involved and it wasn't like the guy was a bad husband. But as the drama progressed we got to see her side of the story and her feelings and emotions. And by the end of the drama as the couple realised the true matter of the problem lied in within their marriage ,    I as a viewer ended up rooting for them to be reconciled. So right now I am just wondering if this drama has been intentionally keeping Lee Sang Yun' s character as distant and as emotionally unavailable as he is projecting because we're first seeing it from her perspective. It'd be really nice to see the next phase of the drama look at things from his perspective as well.

 

Of course , at the end of the day , affairs etc are still a conscious choice made by the offending parties. There's no excuse because of the hurt you bring to the other person....but if you have been married long enough, you'll probably be able to see that sometimes there's so much that goes on in a marriage that may be a factor in leading to those poor choices.

 

By the way Lee Sang Yoon was pretty fantastic in On The Way to The Airport. The adultery theme aside , he brought to his character a sweetness and kindness that is quite different from his personality here.

[LSYfan]

2 hours ago, ktcjdrama said:

You’ll be missing out then... Try watch him in Twenty Again. I can promise you he is a good guy there. 

Haha , Liar Game is great. I guarantee you that he’s very very talkative as a theatre professor in drama ‘Twenty Again’. So don’t miss it 

 

 

[gm4queen]

Dear @maribella @Samuel Yohanes @ktcjdrama @triplem & @sin hoonsim friends, 

 

I adore all your recommendations about Lee Sang Yoon dramas but I think I've brought up something unnecessary to the thread!  I apologize for any inconvenient caused! Since this is the thread for VIP, let's talk more about the series.. 

 

This is my most fav scene yesterday! I dunno why but when jang Nara cries, she hits me real hard with her tears.  I can't see her crying like this.. She is so helpless.. I want her to be strong & have guts to move forward in her life!!! Yeah, that's the best revenge her untruly husband can have from her!

 

 

 

And this guy is just floating around...  Ha ha ha.. He is so funny to watch..

 

 

And can't wait to see how these two women get in line for Park Sang Jun.. Seriously, innocent faces are most dangerous!!  

 

 

[maribella]

5 minutes ago, gm4queen said:

adore all your recommendations about Lee Sang Yoon dramas but I think I've brought up something unnecessary to the thread!  I apologize for any inconvenient caused! Since this is the thread for VIP, let's talk m

It is not entirely out of point, we are comparing the characters and the various shows with VIP.

It's good to know LSY has many more expressions.

 

Monday is so far away too.

[LSYfan]

Lee SangYun posted SJ & YR on his personal Instagram LOL

SangYun made it clear recently at Osaka Fan Meeting 1.12.2019, ParkSungJoon & LeeSangYun are two DIFFERENT person LOL

and he is worried of respond ...role in VIP

[INJINFAN]

I am so disappointed in the character SJ.  I wanted a love story between the two leads and I'm skeptical that they can reconcile now.  I am still confused about him asking for divorce.  Do you think it is because he loves JS so much that he can't stand to see her in pain?  After seeing Episode 10, is it because he saw his father stay in a marriage, broken by an affair, and the whole family was angry the rest of their lives?  Is it because he wants to be with Yuri?  Why did he go to mistress rather than wife that night after team meeting?  Why did he sit in car so long?  What was he conflicted about?

[lu09]

@sin hoonsimh

Poor LSY, knowing his real personality, no wonder he is worried Imao. He is doing a fantastic job with SJ character considering the fact that we hate him lol. He shouldn't be reading comments LOL. He will be shocked.

[LSYfan]

36 minutes ago, lu09 said:

@sin hoonsimh

Poor LSY, knowing his real personality, no wonder he is worried Imao. He is doing a fantastic job with SJ character considering the fact that we hate him lol. He shouldn't be reading comments LOL. He will be shocked.

Haha, fan meeting was his last project for 2019, now resting & Guess holiday in Taiwan w his best friends

christmas is coming...our VIPs

Final episode 16 will be aired on Xmas eve?

[imgreatgal]

10 hours ago, lebeaucouple said:

In my opinion, Marriage is not a lack of love, but a lack of trust and openness that makes unhappy marriages. The male lead has flaws which has too many dark secrets that are not wholeheartedly sharing enough with his wife. It was a pity and i am sure this was the intention by the writer. When they are back home, they are not communicating enough after office hour, too busy with work. It was sad that there were not many times the husband was willing to open up and share the secrets when the wife confronted him...

For starters SungJun told his wife a lie about his father being dead before their marriage. He maybe ashamed of his secret being an illegitimate and also for a fact that he does not want to burden JungSun who already has a falling out with her mom.   It could be this secret that he hides that make it difficult for him to open up to his wife. 

10 hours ago, lebeaucouple said:

if a woman truly loves that man, sometimes she needs to play the weakest role in their daily life.

 True in a way because man are traditionally providers, they want to feel needed. 

[lebeaucouple]

11 hours ago, INJINFAN said:

I am so disappointed in the character SJ.  I wanted a love story between the two leads and I'm skeptical that they can reconcile now.  I am still confused about him asking for divorce.  Do you think it is because he loves JS so much that he can't stand to see her in pain?  After seeing Episode 10, is it because he saw his father stay in a marriage, broken by an affair, and the whole family was angry the rest of their lives?  Is it because he wants to be with Yuri?  Why did he go to mistress rather than wife that night after team meeting?  Why did he sit in car so long?  What was he conflicted about?

My dear chingu, you have raised a series of many "Y" questions...but i will try my best to answer that based on my best of knowledge.

 

Q1) Why is he asking for divorce?

It could be possibly due to his desperate sadness and guilty (his emotion shown) in a situation that he couldn't handle any more at that point of time (when his wife kept pressuring him for an explanation/truth). Similarly, when we force someone for an answer, the outcome may be just as cruel one that we could not bear to hear. Sad to say...

 

Q2) Do you think it is because he loves JS so much that he can't stand to see her in pain?  

Yes, it is part of the reasons. He still loves his wife a lot. He felt shameful for what he had done to her so far.

 

Q3) After seeing Episode 10, is it because he saw his father stay in a marriage, broken by an affair, and the whole family was angry the rest of their lives?

Yes, he had a disgraceful past from his father side but he believed that this is not his fault because he was not born with that. He has a pride. Nobody has a choice to choose who your father is when you are born. 

 

Q4) Why did he go to mistress rather than wife that night after team meeting?   

It was an order from his boss to take care of his "daughter" (mistress), and he empathize her was because they had the similar background (child born out of wedlock) and at the same time, he and his wife were having "cold war". Timing is the most crucial element in life, it can benefit us if we do the right thing, while it can also work against us. 

 

Q5) Why did he sit in car so long?   

He was struggling whether to tell or not to tell his wife about the truth behind, he did not know how to handle the crisis, and thus choose not to go back home early and rather stay in the car. Most men use this way to avoid problem which is quite common in the relationship.

 

Q6) What was he conflicted about? 

The moral-conflict situations occurred in his marriage. Cheating in his marriage is one of them.

 

In my opinion, there may be some fundamental issues existing in their marriage which have not been reveal in the episode yet.......If their relationship is very strong all these while, no third party can even come into it. I always believe it takes two hands to clap, it takes two people to make a marriage work. Both husband and wife have to individually invest in the marriage to make it successful, it's not a one-sided thing.

 

We shall see how the plot developed further from a different perspective. I look forward to seeing more revealing side of the story....

 

 

[serendipity...]

The audacity of the...... newly rich chick to even consider there's an opening for her & ML blows my mind. She surely lives in her own sweet & sour bubble isn't she? Call me heartless but I feel no sympathy nor empathy towards such slimy chicks like her. On the other hand she does make a good pair with ML; two shitty slimy cheaters lol

 

Best thing about this week is the rising of the phoenix; FL. Tbh I couldn't stand her for being so weak and clingy towards a man who cheated on her but she finally starts to rise from the ashes. It was high time she fought back and I hope she takes the high road and never look back

[partyon]

Whoa, this thread is moving fast! The hate towards Yu-Ri and SJ is real...

I'm even scared to watch ep 9 and 10 now... Not sure if I will have anything good to say about them in a few hours either.   I'll be back with comments soon

[lu09]

39 minutes ago, partyon said:

Whoa, this thread is moving fast! The hate towards Yu-Ri and SJ is real...

I'm even scared to watch ep 9 and 10 now... Not sure if I will have anything good to say about them in a few hours either.   I'll be back with comments soon

Good luck watching it lol. You will be joining us soon.

[smhelen]

I have been wrong all along with my explanation in this drama, aka, thinking JR has a mental illness similar to the character in It's a Beautiful Mind.

I want to add, the Vice President wife thinks highly of JR. She can be her ally in this sorry tale of deceit. 

 

We will see. 

[roli]

1 hour ago, smhelen said:

I want to add, the Vice President wife thinks highly of JR. She can be her ally in this sorry tale of deceit. 

 

We will see. 

I was thinking the same: it would be nice and great if JS and vice president wife team up into destroying this pair and change the companie. 

[partyon]

I am probably going to be the party pooper in this thread, so feel free to jump over my post if you are waiting for me to hate on Yu Ri.   Also, apologies for the long post.

 

I actually think this is a sad situation with no winners here. This drama actually depicts how quite many affairs start.

 

Sung Joon
Sung Joon was born out of wedlock, his father abandoning his ex-wife for his mom. The father cheated on his mother, and left them in the end. As a child he must have felt abandoned. He shouldered his father's actions and burdens, and deep inside he felt shame and guilt.

For some reason he never told his wife about this. Why? We can only speculate, but probably because he was not ready to disclose this information. Jung Sun said that he was always closed up and had a hard time talking about his feelings. He was close to telling her about his father when he asked her to come to the funeral, and the moment passed when she didn't want to attend.

 

So why did he have an emotional affair with Yu Ri?

Because she was in the "wrong place at the wrong time". He was in a place in his life when he needed something specific on an emotional level. He needed understanding, he needed a person whose shoulder he could cry on. Someone who could comfort his sadness and loneliness after his father's death. Yu Ri, who had a similar background to him, could give him what he yearned at that moment.

Jung Sun was depressed at that time (probably because the death of their baby?) and she didn't have the capability to support her husband's emotional needs. The emotional connection was lacking in the marriage. He would probably never have cheated on JS, had JS been emotionally available for him when his father died.

 

Why does he want a divorce?
Easy to answer. He's scared! He's scared of facing himself, his own shortcomings, the feelings of guilt and sadness of what he has caused himself and his wife. So instead of facing those fears, he runs away. This is a very common response for a person who isn't connected to his own feelings so well.

 

I also think it's very important to remember why people cheat on their partners. It's not because there's something wrong with their partners or necessarily even in the marriage. It's a manifestation of what the cheater is looking for on an emotional level. The cheater is trying to fill in a gap / void in themselves.

 

Yu Ri

Yu Ri is looking for a father figure. Something she lacked when she was growing up. Her father hasn't really stepped up to the plate so far, has he? Like SJ, she has the same trauma of being born out of wedlock which has caused her abandonment issues and shame. She wants to be loved and accepted, and suddenly someone comes into her life who protects her and stands up for her. She also wants to fill the void of loneliness and sadness of not being accepted or approved fully by her father's family.
I don't think she is a bad person, she seems sincere in her own way, but she's scared of losing the connection she has felt with SJ. That's why she's trying to cling onto him.

 

Jung Sun

She intrigues me. What did she experience when she lost the baby and why did she feel she did something wrong towards Sung Joon?

Of course she would feel betrayed by her husband's affair and being asked for a divorce. But she isn't giving up!
I am wondering, though, if she really wants to destroy her husband or if she despite everything is unconsciously trying to save her marriage?

 

We still have 6 episodes to go. I don't know what the writer has planned for the ending, but I still think that there is a chance that our couple could mend their marriage. It seems that despite everything that is going on, there is still a deep sense of love between the two of them. Sometimes you have to tear something down in able to start over.

 

[ktcjdrama]

@partyon love what you’ve written. I don’t hate SJ and YR too because I can see why they ended up having a connection. Judging from their body language while interacting, theirs wasn’t a physical lustful connection, but more on the emotional aspect. He doesn’t really welcome touches from YR, as far as we’re shown now, eg. she was hesitant and careful in trying to get close to him (lift scene), the way she texted him to meet and tell him she misses him. 

 

What I see is that SJ has been trying to break free knowing what he did was wrong, but due to instructions from boss, he can’t really cut ties with YR that easily. 

 

JS on the other hand, has been quite fierce when confronting the issue. For someone like SJ, that kind of approach will only close him up further, thus the breakdown in communication. I too see that he tried to come clean about his father by inviting JS to go to the funeral, alas it’s just the wrong timing because of her state of emotions at that time. Notice the way she responded to him (her eyes) was not exactly friendly (great acting by JNR) Most people seeing that kind of respond will just stop any attempt to connect. 

 

I can’t blame SJ for keeping the truth about his father from JS. In his mind, his father is dead, he has no father. He told everyone that, not just JS. It’s not that he has malice intent in keeping that a secret. He was just ashamed of his past. He is a man of few words, even since college days, so he has been consistent with his personality. SJ is a closed up person, but so is JS. She doesn’t allow him to speak/explain himself properly. Or maybe a better way to put it, she doesn’t listen well to him. She has always approached him with anger since the text. 

 

Anyway, I don’t want to make this too long. In no way am I defending that what JS and YR did was right. I’m just saying that I understand why it has come to this. Since we’re only at ep.10 now, I believe there will be some unexpected twist about their relationship. We’re finally shown the baby room, and I think we’ll soon see how JS was like after the miscarriage. She might have been very angry and took it out on SJ, or pushed him away one too many times, causing a gap in their marriage. Let’s see. It’s too early now to make a verdict that their marital problems happened all because of SJ alone. Well actually, marital problem will never be a one-party fault. 

[pixiebelle]

So I was wrong and YR is the mistress ! Oh dear, the drama has taken on a complete different vibe since the reveal. I thought this will be a more corporate battle kind of drama so I am a bit surprised. But glad this thread is not choked with heated debates about the moral issues.

It is wrong to for SJ to have an affair with YR (whether emotional and/or physical). Let us see how the couple deal with this mistake. Will continue watching as Jang Na Ra's acting is certainly worth my time.
 

Still unknown : who sent that text message to JS ? Did someone send the elevator clip to SJ to threathen him ?