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[Drama 2019] Designated Survivor : 60 Days, 60일, 지정생존자

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kim Nam Wook ( speechwriter) - Don’t you know his political career will be over if this gets out ?

 

I think potentially this could be the fact that he was fired (but it wasn’t signed off) prior to the mayhem.  They were probably trying to work around some justifiable reason for PMJ’s absence at the National Assembly.  They can’t exactly say that he was fired and therefore left which was why he was absent.  What could his alibi be then?  Going to pick up his Wife and Son?  He got called away because the school rang him because his Son got in trouble?  It would be a convenient lie...but it would require his Wife and Son to back it up... then where would his integrity be in front of them?  He hasn’t told his Wife that he was fired.  Nobody really knows except Secretary Han (?) or were there more?

 

Everyone who wasn’t there at the Assembly is potentially a suspect.  And the man who ascended to the seat would be prime.  LJH being the sole survivor in the bomb blast would elevate him to a messianic status.  He’s pretty much the only one in the eyes of the public who doesn’t need an alibi?  He wouldn’t exactly be top of the suspect list which means he’s already got a leg up in the eyes of the public to get the top job.  He’s the most trustworthy of the 3.  Neither the lady chief the Opposition Party nor PMJ have that luxury.  The public would want to know why they weren’t there at the meeting.

 

I sort of feel like because they deliberately have this other faceless figure in the background, he’s the mastermind behind it all.  So he wants the power and clout but he wants someone he can manipulate like a puppet.  The deceased President for all his faults seemed to be a decent man.  He was loved by his staff.  But somewhere along the way, he caved and sacrificed his morals.  He seemed to have enemies?  That conversation with Secretary Han about the popularity poll seemed to hint at something amiss.  Anyway to pin the bombing on a faceless madman (maybe chaebol?) is probably the most diplomatic solution for Dramaland.  The other 2 players in the power struggle want power (LJH and the lady Opposition Leader) so that is their weakness to exploit.  PMJ’s weakness is his family.  He would give anything up for them.  Like Jack Ryan.  Threaten his family and chances are he will cave.  Looking forward to next few episodes. :D

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@nrllee I was too tired to watch the entire episode but I found myself warming very much up to  mr acting press secretary Kim  . The first press secretary was seriously useless... how did he even become one . But Kim stepped up & handled the reporters like a pro. I like all the supporting cast . Their scenes are interesting too & I hope they go into Season 2 as I think there will be a lot of material & enough stories to tell given the large cast 

54 minutes ago, nrllee said:

think potentially this could be the fact that he was fired (but it wasn’t signed off) prior to the mayhem.  They were probably trying to work around some justifiable reason for PMJ’s absence at the National Assembly.  They can’t exactly say that he was fired and therefore left which was why he was absent.  What could his alibi be then?  Going to pick up his Wife and Son?  He got called away because the school rang him because his Son got in trouble?  It would be a convenient lie...but it would require his Wife and Son to back it up... then where would his integrity be in front of them?  He hasn’t told his Wife that he was fired.  Nobody really knows except Secretary Han (?) or were there more?

I agree . PMJ has a lot working against him . He was also not officially elected by voters so has not had the baptism of fire going through an election campaign.

 

Ratings at 4.3%

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I read this reviewer quite a bit https://www.thereviewgeek.com/designatedsurvivor-60days-s1e3review/

 

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The North Korean Defectors

After last week’s double bill set the tone and mood for the series to follow, Designated Survivor: 60 Days returns for episode 3, and a much more politically conspiring episode.

We begin with Park returning home and reuniting with Si-Jin, whose infectious excitement brings a smile to her Father’s face as she talks about riding a spaceship, which happens to be an MRI machine. We then get an unexpectedly hilarious moment involving a joke about North Korea followed up by one of the best laughs in Kdrama history. 

Park tries to connect with his son Si-Wan soon after to no avail although Si-Wan does ask his Dad what the Wi-fi password is which is certainly progress over outright silence.

One of Park’s advisors then fronts a public address where he’s bombarded with difficult questions from the press prompting Kim to step in and answer the hungry reporters head on while the advisor himself retreats from the pressure.

Secretary Han then tells Park he needs to visit the scene of the tragedy to keep up a good public image. Meanwhile Na-Kyung figures out a cable installer is to blame for the bomb and that could have been the ticket to allow them to get in without being seen as suspicious. She immediately gets to work finding the company responsible for installing the cables, leading her to a foot-chase and a possible suspect. They catch a shady man up on the roof but he sneers before suddenly leaping off and onto electrified wires, killing him instantly.

Before they can deliberate over what to do next, a gang arrive and write “Commies Go Home” on the walls, which Park soon learns is part of the recent social media “fake news” spreading surrounding the North Korean Defectors. Mayor Kang capitalizes on this and holds a speech in the area, further strengthening his political crusade when someone throws food at him while he’s talking.

Meanwhile Park is urged by his wife to stop the Special Crime Investigation Division due to their belief in the North Korean defectors being drug addicts before he visits the scene of the explosion as requested earlier in the episode. He begins to follow his script for the speech he’s given when suddenly a man appears and threatens to hurt him. Thankfully, his security team stop them.

From here, the rest of the episode sees Park try and work out the best way of diffusing the situation with Mayor Kang and the North Korean rumours whilst avoiding political suicide in the process. After some studying and words of encouragement from those closest to him, he comes up with a plan to help him and the North Korean defectors but the entire cabinet are completely against it. Including Secretary Han.

Han then gives him an ultimatum – follow his advice or go ahead and fire the Secretary in order to push his plan through. Begrudgingly, Park makes his mind up and winds up firing Secretary Han in order to get the meeting for the executive order.

Forced back into the lime-light once again as the best press candidate they have, Kim informs the press that Park has issued the executive order to revoke the designation of Mohyeon and Gogil as Special Crime Investigation zones. The police are forced to back down and told not to show any discriminatory behaviour toward the area.

This is met with applause from the residents and as Park heads to the tragedy site to pay his respects later that evening, they’re all shocked to find a survivor, very much alive, amongst the rubble.

Clocking in at a little over 80 minutes, there’s no denying that Designated Survivor: 60 Days has a lot of drama and content to it but for the most part, the episodes are well paced. With no musical montages or big action set pieces this week, 60 Days relies on its characters to push the series forward and in that respect, Designated Survivor does well to build Park as a more likable protagonist this time around.

The quiet, reflective moments early on involving his family is a really nice touch here and seeing him break through the conventional norms in his role whilst simultaneously refusing to entertain the notion of being a future political candidate helps to build empathy with his character. The ending certainly leaves things wide open going forward and given Na-Kyung’s plot line around the bomb, I’d imagine the person they’ve pulled from the wreckage may well be linked to the explosion in some way.

Despite that, Designated Survivor: 60 Days does well to maintain its level of tension, with underlying issues with North Korea spilling over to this episode but playing much closer to the propaganda-driven fake news. It’s certainly an interesting take on the subject and one that ultimately pays off too, giving 60 Days a bleak, gritty feel to it.

Quite what will happen tomorrow remains to be seen but for now, Designated Survivor: 60 Days does well to differentiate itself from its source material whilst adding enough originality to help it stand on its own two feet.

 

 

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@triplem I haven’t watched yet. I just based my guesses from the Preview. :lol:.  I can’t stream live for cable channels. I have to rely on Netflix. So i will watch tonight. 

 

Although just reading the spoiler above I am a tad suspicious as to how they missed finding LJH the sole survivor when they combed through the site initially?  Did he plant himself there post explosion?  :ph34r:  Maybe too radical a thought :lol:.  Too much espionage on my mind 

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3 hours ago, mel22 said:

love the speechwriter aka Kim Nam Wook, BH Chief Han and Cha Young Jin (the BH secretary).  Am still guessing where their loyalties lie.  

After watching the episode 3, despite his words, I think YJ is almost ready to give his loyalty to MJ. 

I believe YJ character info said he wants to be a kingmaker. YJ sees potential in MJ and likes the fact that MJ is a good guy. He just needs MJ to become politically ambitious. YJ is MJ's serpent, the knowledge and ambition.

He will probably give his loyalty to MJ in next episode. 

 

JS's loyalty seems to be always to the late president. But he likes MJ and knows that YJ likes MJ too. So he did what he did in episode 3, which will help MJ and also will help YJ to fully give his loyalty to MJ.

 

NW, I don't know. Perhaps he will give his loyalty to MJ in next episode. 

 

I like how now that MJ's era begins, the talented younger generation are taking over the Blue House. 

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i REALLY want to see LJH in melodrama after seeing the end of tonight's episode. he often (not always) get to play richard simmons bags thus he rarely gets to shoot sleeping scene (or faints) because i think it doesn't fit the role. i mean, HE LOOKS SO FINE WITH HIS EYES SHUT IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. even heo jun ho is playing a sick good guy after his creepy as heck harabeoji in come and hug me!!!!!

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Just watched Ep3.  If there’s any romance happening, it looks like lady reporter and N Korean defector Speech Writer (NamWook) :lol:.  She looks kinda besotted.  And their verbal foreplay sizzled.  :wub: 

NW Ms Woo’s performance depends on her questions and my performance depends on my silence. (Wowza.  You go NamWook!  Snag her with your wit.)

 

I was sad that Secretary Han sacrifices himself to prove a point.  He’s established the point that PMJ does want that power but only if it will achieve the ends that align with his core beliefs and he has the gumption to carry it through to the end (proven by his sacking of Secretary Han).  His sacking has also inadvertently aligned the loyalties of the rest of the staff with PMJ.  Now all that remains is whether CYJ’s prediction is right about PMJ.  He believed the deceased President was a good man too, but he ended up being corrupted by the power he had.  Absolute power corrupts absolutely.  So his rather cynical assessment (that you may as well just side with whoever has power anyway because ultimately it’s not goodness that wins, it’s power) may soften with PMJ if PMJ stands by his moral code regardless.

 

Minor note : I find it strange that the lady in custody died of Cushing’s Disease (Netflix sub).  More than likely she died of the opposite disorder Addison’s Disease where a lack of meds can result in fatality. Sorry my medical mind can’t switch off - probably why I find it very hard to watch Hospital or medical dramas that aren’t true to life. :lol:

 

EDIT - did anyone think it odd they filmed the cat in that chase scene with the cable set up guy?  I mean why?  Sorry I just thought it was odd. So random? :huh:  Maybe PD was like O look, the cat wants a cameo...let’s oblige :lol:

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Other things I liked about the Episode.  I liked that PMJ pulled his son up for disrespect instead of just letting him get away with it.  I also liked that they didn’t sugarcoat the reality of raising a sullen teenage boy by having him respond to his dad positively after that heart to heart in his room.  The poor man was looking for a fist pump shake but was met with nonchalance.  Someone mentioned that at least he “connected” with his son (via the WiFi password - :lol: pun intended ).  The little girl is darling - all rainbows and unicorns. :wub:  You can tell JJH is a dad for real, he doesn’t miss a beat when talking to his little girl.  Awww... :wub:

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Episode 2 was decent enough and JJH... well, what can I say... he's very believable in the role of the inexperienced commander-in-chief who is groping around in the dark. :D The poor man was terrified and completely out of his element. He certainly looked the part of the little lost boy in a room full of seasoned bureaucrats which I imagine he's been called to do. Heh. But I am surprised that he seemed clueless about how to run a committee meeting and bringing things to order. Does KAIST not have team meetings etc? All that was essentially was a team meeting... a high stakes one sure... but still a team meeting. My suspicion is that they're overplaying the newbie shtick a bit much just to make his development (in all probability) all the greater. ;) 

 

The sunk N.Korean submarine took me back to Hunt for Red October (loved the film more than the book actually). The parallels were I thought quite compelling. Both PMJ and Jack Ryan (fresh faces with certain skill sets) came up with hypotheses that were plausible but still something of a gamble. In this instance it was designed to use PMJ's own science-maths background so that he's not a complete waste of oxygen in the war room. However, contrary to what Secretary Han said, I don't think that it all luck. Okay, there wasn't a high great of certainty that the N.Korean sub had sunk but there was some evidence that it had. Also everyone had laboured under the assumption that the N.Koreans were preparing for combat. Based on what? On the one hand, they didn't take responsibility for it and they had been part of a peace negotiation process. Was that all bluff? No one could be certain of that. Certainly, there were arguments on all sides that made sense so there was always a gamble whatever route they took. My husband likened it to a process of putting pieces of the puzzle together and that's what PMJ was basically attempting to do.

 

My thinking about the bombing of the National Assembly is that it's some kind of false flag operation. There are hints of it here and there indicating that. 

 

 

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I'm going to wait tonight to watch the episode 3 but reading everyone's comments about yesterday episode I think 3 was good episode. 

I have to watch the episode  3 before  I can be sure if this going to follow the original plot. 

Did PJM say that he wanted to be president after the 60 days? 

 

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18 minutes ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

Also everyone had laboured under the assumption that the N.Koreans were preparing for combat. Based on what?

 

The movement of the submarine pre-emptively into South Korean waters.  A sub with nukes in it.  South Korea was justifiably nervous.  North Korea may be coming to the table for peace talks but it’s never been smooth sailing.  They are a loose cannon.  Mistrust abounds from previous failed peace talk attempts.  A bit like China now with Taiwan and all the posturing happening in the South China Sea.  Communist regimes are notoriously difficult to negotiate with.

 

22 minutes ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

But I am surprised that he seemed clueless about how to run a committee meeting and bringing things to order. Does KAIST not have team meetings etc? All that was essentially was a team meeting... a high stakes one sure... but still a team meeting

 

They (KAIST) probably did.  But talking his talk, science jargon.  So he would be completely at ease there talking about data, facts, environmental impact studies.  Here they were throwing things at him that he would’ve had very little context or confidence in. Political speak, state of the economy, bank collapse, mass panic.  He was out of his depth.  Where should he even start?  And he’s never struck me as a man to step up unless his moral convictions are challenged.  So he would just sit stunned and bewildered much of the time.  He doesn’t lead unless forced to by circumstance or morally.  From his standpoint everyone else in that room was so much more qualified than he was so it didn’t strike me odd that he just sat there until Secretary Han took charge and ordered everyone out.

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28 minutes ago, joccu said:

Did PMJ say that he wanted to be president after the 60 days?

 

No he seems to be of the opinion that he’s just a seat warmer.  Although after Ep3, when he pushed forward with the executive order, he pretty much deposed Mayor Kang and put his hand up howbeit reluctantly to being the Presidential candidate for the Majority (Ruling) party.  

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2 hours ago, nrllee said:

he pretty much deposed Mayor Kang 

Yeah, i think Kang is still the mayor. But MJ reminded Kang who's in charge. Well, MJ reminded everyone who's in charge. 

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Sorry just had to post some LJH scenes 

Resumes from last night where  they find Oh 

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In hospital , Agent Han goes to see him & asked him what happened before the bombing

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Oh my oh my !! Who the heck is Oh talking to while watching TV at the hospital. Very suspicious :D . 

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Next week’s preview 

omg @Ameera Ali @Lawyerh LJH giving fan service ! No wonder he went & lose 9kg:mrgreen:

 

 

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Only your oppa ,Come out from all this   

 

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Unscratch :mrgreen: :sweat_smile:

 

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How many day I need to wait to see all the abs , our half nurse  @Lawyerh  what your diagnosis , sunburn:naughty:

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, nrllee said:

Other things I liked about the Episode.  I liked that PMJ pulled his son up for disrespect instead of just letting him get away with it.  I also liked that they didn’t sugarcoat the reality of raising a sullen teenage boy by having him respond to his dad positively after that heart to heart in his room.  The poor man was looking for a fist pump shake but was met with nonchalance.  Someone mentioned that at least he “connected” with his son (via the WiFi password - :lol: pun intended ).  The little girl is darling - all rainbows and unicorns. :wub:  You can tell JJH is a dad for real, he doesn’t miss a beat when talking to his little girl.  Awww... :wub:

watching his son i was like "wow this was me in high school" teens are SOOOOO moody. i love jjh <3 

 

i'm still kinda confused on who's who and i'm in the beginning of ep 4. the reporter, she works for a conservative paper right? netflix doesn't translate the title cards for who each person is and it's really frustrating lol so idk  what her boss does exactly...

 

itll be interesting to see LJH's character. he has a penchant for ANNOYING morally grey men lmaooo so i'm excited to see how this guy plays out.

 

power isn't a bad word. it's just used badly. like pmj's idea of power is what leaders should have, the power to make a better world. his core beliefs, especially in the environment, are literally imperative to all our futures. the military and the rich have disrupted that. also the us-sk relations and how political the show is i love...

 

i want to mention that people are different. the president changed because he wanted to keep his seat. it's like obama who was a centrist; affable and generally an okay person in our sense of the world but policies that hurt people severely. 

 

we settle for either mediocrity or evil and consider that just human nature. power can cause corruption because of lack of guidance and personal lack of empathy. pmj's goal in life was not to be president, which i think is a huge benefit. you have to have some egotistical things going on to be a politician (and they know this) but the ones that aren't seeking complete power are the ones who hold their values and the people's safety closest to themselves.

 

pmj doesn't need to change, really, he needs to try his hardest in adversity and keep fighting for the people since that is their job. we think of politics like a game because it is but the gamble is people's lives. so what happens when one of those people inadvertently has to help change the world?

 

anyways, i really like this show!!!!

 

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Omo! I went & read spoilers . Looks like OYS is a handsome devil in a navy uniform . Bad bad man.  Seems like there’s speculation that he & Agent Han’s BF may have plotted together & are the masterminds behind the bomb :scream:..

@Ameera Ali oh yes , oppa has messianic powers :lol:

 

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@nrllee I get it... he's out of his element. ;) He's a science nerd who's been dragged out of his academic bubble. It's obvious what they were trying to do but it seems to me just a bit heavy handed and obvious. But hey, it's a K drama, they do this sort of stuff frequently enough so I'm not seriously complaining. :D Still I can't help being gobsmacked by his political naivete although I don't deny that he's got an aptitude for research though. :P A data-driven head of state... pigs will fly...

 

There's another similar sort of thing going on with the press secretary too whose lack of professional poise at the Blue House briefings is played on some level for comic relief as well as an obvious opportunity for the speechwriter to step up. I don't doubt that that's leading to another change over from the old to the new.

To me these are signs of wobbliness in the writing. A show that's not entirely sure-footed about its juggling act. Anyway, I'm still watching for now... if no other reason than for LJH... yesh! :D

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Episode 3 sees PMJ growing into the role and not content to be directed by veteran staffers while just "acting" presidential. It doesn't take him long to see that his actions or inaction has serious consequences... To have the power and not be able to use it. It certainly didn't take long for opportunistic politicians to strut their stuff at the sign of crisis. And of course the N. Korean refugees are just the ripe scapegoat for the tragedy of recent days. Yes, it seems illogical to blame the people who escaped a tyrannical state as the perpetrators but then we're all so paranoid these days... and some of that paranoia isn't unwarranted. Fear is a real enough feature of political maneuvering. 

 

Secretary Han's opposition to the presidential exercise of executive power was a somewhat unexpected but fascinating turn of events. It was on one level a test of PMJ's resolve on whether or not to issue the executive order but also I imagine a test of PMJ's mettle as a man and potential presidential candidate. But what's also intriguing is that this also signals a handing over of yet another baton because now Cha Young Jin will take over from Sec Han.(I will really have to watch Sens8 as well for more Son Seok Koo apparently) I suppose HJS saw himself as President Yang's man and realised his time was over. Only someone who is willing to buy into PMJ's agenda and approach... whatever that might be... can ably see PMJ through with conviction. Both younger men would perhaps usher in a new era of politics, stretch their wings... who knows... but that could be what's behind this test. 

 

Just wondering if we'll see Ahn Nae Sang again. His law and order platform had all kinds of lovely irony to it

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57 minutes ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

 

@nrllee I get it... he's out of his element. ;) He's a science nerd who's been dragged out of his academic bubble. It's obvious what they were trying to do but it seems to me just a bit heavy handed and obvious. But hey, it's a K drama, they do this sort of stuff frequently enough so I'm not seriously complaining. :D Still I can't help being gobsmacked by his political naivete although I don't deny that he's got an aptitude for research though. :P A data-driven head of state... pigs will fly...

 

There's another similar sort of thing going on with the press secretary too whose lack of professional poise at the Blue House briefings is played on some level for comic relief as well as an obvious opportunity for the speechwriter to step up. I don't doubt that that's leading to another change over from the old to the new.

To me these are signs of wobbliness in the writing. A show that's not entirely sure-footed about its juggling act. Anyway, I'm still watching for now... if no other reason than for LJH... yesh! :D

 

 

Funny you should say that because in reading the reviews for the American version, critics were of the opinion that Sutherland was brimming with too much know how to be credible.  So they didn’t think he was inept enough and was suddenly blessed with political knowledge he shouldn’t have had.  :lol:  Glad you’re strapped in for the ride.

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