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[Drama 2019] Designated Survivor : 60 Days, 60일, 지정생존자

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1 hour ago, nrllee said:

 

He said there would be no third time.  I think she will need to swallow her pride and do the asking this time. :lol:

 

 

I get the feeling they won’t show the actual PE.  They will just wrap up the story of the terror cell and Oh will be ousted and PMJ shown to be in the running, along with Yun.  Because she really hasn’t done anything “wrong”, she’s just in a different party?  And it will finish like that. I don’t actually mind if they do that.  He’s already grown so much as a character so even if they leave us hanging about the results I won’t feel cheated.  It’s enough for me that he’s stepped up to be in the race and trying.

But the intro gives a sort of answer to the presidential election: he is dressed like he was the president and he is standing in front of the desk, while as Acting President, he always remained far away from the desk and preferred to sit to the table.

I haven't watched the US version but I have the impression that the drama will end on the day of the PE and at the same time, they will find the mastermind and arrest the persons involved. 

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Just wanna say... i cant wait for Sec Cha and Jeong reconcilation!... haha

 

Im glad to see this thread is having a lot of viewers, even though silent, and moving along until its final run later on..... happy to see that everyone is updating their social media to make us fans engage in their dramas and ships ... just like HDL... Everyone, Fighting to the End, hahahaa

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I hope the ending is very very tense! While the president is being sworn in they still need to capture the mastermind and Agent Han Nagyeong will be running around with a gun!!! Well I can only hope , after all they have finished shooting!!:D

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trans by papago: Every time they show up, the air in the house will change.
It's a immersion.
 
 
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On another note 60 days is like almost 2 months. Almost a month has passed in this drama's timeline. I feel today's episode will start with the 60 changing to 30!!

 

But Agent Han Nagyeong does not give up so easily after all these days and she is at it even after her fiancee died. If it was another person they would be asking for time off and tell the Blue House team to get the mastermind themselves. But she is so patriotic. Also I feel she will be the next Director of NIS after she has gone through all this.

 

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Here is another translation:D

그동안 외사랑을 하던 차영진의 부름에
드디어.... 박무진이 응답했다

papgo translate it as:

At the love call of Cha Young-jin, who had been in love with others,
Finally, Park Moo-jin answered.
 
strike through is my correction.lol
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9 hours ago, disembody said:

so i am doing a quick rewatch....things make more sense now in context.

 

i have a question about OYS. does someone have record of all that he has survived? the ship battle (btw who was this battle between? when? way too young for the cold war...) and then the blowing up of the national assembly. what is the third? (or first technically if it is chronologically.) also, what is he so mad about? i think i asked this question before but is oys just pissed they weren't sent to war? were they stranded without resources? lmao i will try and focus more in this rewatch cos..

The third is: the assassination attempt, where PMJ was targeted. In the eyes of the citizens, he could have died.

 

He was mad that after such a battle, the generals and the government decided for another status quo. He saw the soldiers' death as a vain sacrifice. SK has still issues with North Korea.

 

@nrllee You wrote this

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Actually I went back to watch that scene because most of us just overlook things in earlier episodes because we’re just trying to wrap our minds around who’s who.  And my interpretation of that scene where Yang fires PMJ changed as a result of what we know now of Sec Han.  

 

Yes Han sent PMJ in the negotiations to ensure it will fall flat.  He wanted to sour the US-Korea relations (if you do that, it makes it less likely for a North-South peace treaty).  When Yang and PMJ have that heated exchange about pollution and morals, and they seem to be at a stalemate, Han actually seems to make an attempt to throw his views into it to settle it by walking from the door towards the 2 of them.  Then he stops short as Yang seems to relent to PMJ’s pleas.  The camera actually pans in on Han’s face and he smiles as Yang says, “Sec Han, please contact the Korean delegation.  Tell them I will be honoring PMJ’s wishes...” (pregnant pause for effect and Han smiles) then he continues, “He will be held responsible for today’s incident...and dismissed from Office.”  Then camera pans on PMJ’s face and then Sec Han’s face both of which register shock/dismay.  I think Han expected Yang to bow to PMJ’s pleas but he didn’t?  So PMJ’s dismissal/leaving wasn’t planned by the terrorist cell.  So I doubt they wanted PMJ to survive?  They had to rejig their plans last minute because as you said, there would be 2 survivors now.  And they thought, “no problemo...PMJ is just going to maintain status quo.  He’s going to flounder and fail miserably.”  But he kept surprising them.  And became a genuine threat/contender.

I watched the scene again and the one with JSJ. First, we have to imagine that the incident with the bottles were planned by PMJ. His assistant noticed it. That way, he made sure that the US delegation couldn't do what they wanted, since the pressure from the citizens was supporting the government. However, PMJ didn't expect that despite the citizens' support, Yang would agree with the demands. First, PMJ accepted it, until Yang reminded him of the shoes. He told him that PMJ had become comfortable with these shoes. With this metaphor, he outlined that PMJ had become a real politician, accepting something even if he didn't like it or didn't fit his conviction. And this remark made PMJ realize that he didn't want to become like this hence he tried to argue and wanted to convince the president to change his mind: see the FTA as a real chance for negogation and not use this incident in order to maintain a certain honor and reputation. As you can see, the real trigger for PMJ's firing were Yang's words. Yang realized that PMJ would never agree to anything that hurts his conscience and belief.

 

So you are right: PMJ wasn't supposed to survive first but the conspirators saw this as a minor incident and believed that PMJ was just a cinderella, a pushover.... while in reality, with the bottle incident he proved that he could be creative.   

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@bebebisous33 yes it was all about the shoes in that scene.  Metaphorically. I liked that they used it.  I wonder if they did the same in the US version.  I am waiting for this to end before I watch the US Version on Netflix.  I get the feeling originally this was supposed to have 20 episodes, split into 2 Seasons like Chief Aide.  Because originally on Netflix there were 10 episodes in this Season.  It was only later that they turned it into 16 episodes and 1 season.  Netflix seems to prefer this format of shorter seasons.  They did it for Kingdom and also for Arthdal.  Instead of one long season, they split it.  I guess they decided to just move with status quo and have the usual 16 and not drag it out to 20 split into 2 seasons of 10.  I wonder if they really got to film in the Blue House?  It would’ve been quite a treat for everyone if they did.

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@nrllee And in this moment, PMJ stayed true to his value: honesty. Back then, he acted as if his action with the bottles was an accident but this was not true. During the conference, he chose the reporter Woo to ask the next question, however this had been planned by him. As you can see, PMJ had planned this but on the surface, it looked natural. So PMJ is walking on a very thin line between lies and truth. He does "manipulate" people. He wanted to protect CYJ's reputation and at the FTA negotations the citizens' rights. Koreans should be viewed as partners and not as subordinates of the Americans.

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I'm actually waiting today's episode. 

Are they going to present the V.I.P today or do we have to wait to tomorrow or to the last week.

 

Now that PMJ is going to run president. Who is in control? The ministers or SOmeone else?

 

And How is OYS and the V.I.P going to react? 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

@nrllee And in this moment, PMJ stayed true to his value: honesty. Back then, he acted as if his action with the bottles were an accident but this was not true. During the conference, he chose the reporter Woo to ask the next question, however this had been planned by him. As you can see, PMJ had planned this but on the surface, it looked natural. So PMJ is walking on a very thin line between lies and truth. He does "manipulate" people. He wanted to protect CYJ's reputation and at the FTA negotations the citizens' rights. Koreans should be viewed as partners and not as subordinates of the Americans.

 

Yes I think this time he pre-empted the Press.  He was proactive to talk to Woo to get her to swing the conversation.  He’s no longer on the back foot fighting fires and being merely reactive and lurching from crisis to crisis.  He took charge this time.  And without Cha’s advice.  Teacher Cha would’ve been proud of his student.  No wonder he looked like his chest was going to burst with pride at the Press Con.  I know mine was. :lol:

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Behind the scenes pics that posting in personal Instagram by the casts somehow give us hints and spoilers hahaha..

i feel glad that all president team still complete till the end.. i mean maybe they're all clear :D

and the casts show us their friendship and closeness, hang out together, taking selfies and posting on social media. solid casts give solid chemistry on off screen.

two weeks and four episodes left, finally monday is coming up!!

i just dont know why TVN restrict the film making/behind the scene video on Youtube in some country. little bit dissapointing..:(

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1 hour ago, nrllee said:

Because originally on Netflix there were 10 episodes in this Season.  It was only later that they turned it into 16 episodes and 1 season.  Netflix seems to prefer this format of shorter seasons.  They did it for Kingdom and also for Arthdal.  Instead of one long season, they split it

I personally prefer a single season with max upto 20 episodes so that I can binge it and end it within a weekend. Am happy that they made it a single season otherwise I had to wait another six months at least to get the next season. I just hope the ending is not rushed one

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It’s interesting to see that many k nets  say Han is obviously the VIP but hope he isn’t . And like us they were all moved by PMJ’s announcement & much love for SSK , oppa on the rise :glasses:

Translations credit :

https://melohwa.blogspot.com/2019/08/designated-survivor-60-days-eps-11-12.html?m=1

Article: Naver 'Designated Survivor: 60 Days' New Acting President Lee Joon Hyuk, politician star arises vs 'gunshot wound' Ji Jin Hee regains consciousness [Ep 11]


1. [+550, -5]
Park Moo Jin lies on the surgery table after being shot. During his surgery, Oh Young Seok emerges as the relief Acting President. Within just 12 hours of duty, Oh Young Seok seems to think that he's already the real President and getting so arrogant. I hate the sight of him. Gosh. He's such a bad guy. 

2. [+292, -30]
Son Seok Koo's acting is really good ☺️

3. [+265, -17]
When Son Seok Koo said, "Are you done yelling?", my heart throbbed.

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Wow, he scolded Oh Young Seok because he hated the sight of him. Park Moo Jin, please wake up quickly and come back ㅠㅠ The head of the Blue House Security Team seems really reliable. Son Seok Koo is cool when he gets mad ㅎㅎ I really want to believe Heo Jun Ho when he talked about regretting his decision to keep Ji Jin Hee as Acting President for the first time. Please, I hope Heo Jun Ho is not the VIP... 

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Anyone could tell that the leader of the terrorist attack is Heo Jun Ho ㅋㅋㅋ

6. [+65, -4]
Ji Jin Hee is like the real president. I wonder how much more awesome can his acting be? ~♡♡♡♡♡

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Although anyone could tell that Heo Jun Ho is the culprit, but I hope it's not him. I hope there's a twist.

8. [+43, -6] 
It's really interesting ㅎㅎ

9. [+36, -3]
Is Heo Jun Ho the VIP? Son Seok Koo just seems like a good boy who does what he is told to do.

10. [+32, -0]
Yoon Chan Kyung, the opposition leader. At first, I thought she was just craving for power like any other politician, but the more I see her, it seems that she wasn't. If Park Moo Jin does politics using his heart, Yoon Chan Kyung would be a politician using her head. To be honest, there's nothing wrong about the things Yoon Chan Kyung said. She is an opposition leader with a different agenda. I can't say that she's good, but she isn't a bad person. 

 

 
Spoiler

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Article: Naver 'Designated Survivor: 60 Days' Ji Jin Hee runs for president because of Son Seok Koo's sincerity[Ep 12]

1. [+977, -7]
Son Seok Koo is really cool. I'm going to be Son Seok Koo's fan from now on.

2. [+692, -5]
When he declared that he will be running for president, Ji Jin Hee and Son Seok Koo's emotional acting made me tear up ㅠ A world in which the good man wins, I look forward to see such a person using his authority properly. 

3. [+651, -7]
Sobs ㅠㅠ I've been waiting so long for that last scene.. That answer was what I was waiting for, but he did it in such a cool manner ㅎㅎ He is trying to save Cha Young Jin from the media's thoughtless speculations and rumors ㅎㅎ Son Seok Koo's expression at the end was exactly like mine ㅋㅋ I've fallen for Park Moo Jin ㅋㅋ Secretary Jung Soo Jung and the head of the Blue House Security Team are reliable. The spokesperson Lee Moo Saeng is cute too. Please, I hope Oh Young Seok disappears from The Blue House soon.

4. [+223, -4]
In...teresting.

5. [+141, -0]
It's really interesting but it's a pity that the viewer ratings aren't high. 

6. [+129, -0]
Cha Young Jin looking touched during Park Moo Jin's declaration. This drama has great endings.  ㅜ

7. [+117, -1] 
Ep 12 today is the best in history!! I really like the combination of Cha Young Jin x Park Moo Jin!!! Actor Ji Jin Hee really suits his character, and Chief Presidential Secretary Cha's teary eyes during the last scene when he heard his answer to run for president.. Wow. He's really good at acting. Actor Son Seok Koo! I fell for you when I saw you in 'Designated Survivor: 60 Days'!! I'm looking forward to see how they are going to build "a world in which the good person wins"!! I will definitely be the first broadcast killer next week too!! Holding out till Monday.

8. [+116, -0]
Wow, the answer at the end made my heart skip a beat. ㅠㅠㅠ Today, I realized that the Acting President Park has never sat on the President's seat in The Blue House. Compared to Oh Young Seok who sat on it right away, Acting President Park is really cool.

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Chief Presidential Secretary Cha was cool when he threw a fit at Oh Young Seok... 

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Chief Presidential Secretary Cha is so cute today ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ He walked out of the room with his shoulders drooped after apologizing to Oh Young Seok ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋAnd his expressions when he was moved by Acting President Park ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ  I thought for a moment that they were having a 'some' relationship. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

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I am sorry I was wrong. Guess he can still be acting president. Will comment more after I watch with subs. But the child has been found!!

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gonna start ep 13...

 

it makes sense to join a political party (like bernie sanders even tho he is an independent but this is also in american politics which are a lot more divided than anywhere else.) i guess he's saying joining a party will make things skewed towards one outcome? truly sometimes the wording confuses me.

 

re: the first episode and the meeting. ofc he did it on purpose! i don't think that there's this fine line between lies and truth. i think that doing the right thing may not always be "ethical" (in terms of truths) and he did tell his wife that the ends doesn't justfiy the means. because how you get there does affect it along the way.

 

he publicized the fact that they were not going to bow down to the US, nor should they, and showed how disgusting the dust was. and then he refuses to sign off on it because, even though 50k extra cars is absurd, the actual number being 1m+ is even worse and disgusting. it's interesting to see his thought process. also while rewatching, i'm up to episode 2 in the rewatch, it's clear how influential president yang was.

 

everyone loved him and respected him. i admire the show's way of relating this to people and showing that the world has had true democratic leaders who have had to make tough choices but there's some really great people out there, working with other great people (like his human rights lawyer wife!) and doing the best they can. president yang was so unpopular in the end because this major thing was going to happen. bet 50 yrs down the line, he, too, will be seen as a revolutionary. pmj is following! excited for ep 12 :) 

 

slight spoiler from 8m in

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when cha agrees with pmj and says "you're right" and smiles. EEEEEEE!!!!!!his president

 

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This taking is really telling: CYJ has always considered Han as his closest advisor and even as a mentor, however we can observe how Han has drifted from CYJ. This taking illustrates the gap between them. Han refuses to consider PMJ as a good president candidate and he doesn't want to support him. CYJ is disagreeing with him... Han even mentions Yang as another reason why he can not be supportive. At the end, both go to different directions. Since Han belongs to the conspiracy, this scene underlines his change, he is no longer a democrat what he has been hiding pretty well...

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Oh wow . Eps 13 was pretty eventful that I am not sure where I should start.  Here are some important highlights/ recaps if you want some SPOILERS for the eps:

 

 So upon PMJ's announcement, the first pressing matter is for him to decide if would join the majority party ( Yang's party before this) . Cha said that it would be necessary as no previous president had ever won the seat as an independant, and elections are all about teamwork.  But PMJ felt that joining a party was rather divisive , not a message he wanted to send especially at a time like this when they were fighting terrorists and the country was still in such turmoil. And surprisingly, Cha agreed. So history  in the making here for an independent candidate to win?  I am excited! ( P.S Mayor Kang who died his hair to look more handsome was happy since this mean he would naturally be the ruling party's candidate)
 

Cha does not forget that PMJ has never campaigned . I found it so cute when he was telling PMJ  from how to shake hands (grip level) to eye contact ( 2 seconds) etc. I thought I saw PMJ slightly regretting his decision , looking rather flustered. :w00t: But PMJ knows that Cha is right ( pay attention to the scene they walk in sync) , and does as told. However  his first engagement post candidacy announcement was to congratulate an award winning movie director / writer ( Noh) . She was initially cynical and refused to shake his hand as she was not happy to be used by PMJ to fish for votes. But PMJ demonstrated his sincerity by quoting a line from her early work - Freedom without taboo ( something like that ) and long story short it led to her coming out as gay  , introducing her partner.

 

This took PMJ and all reporters by surprised and of course you can imagine the spin that came. Does PMJ support same-sex relationships?  Some photos of him showed him rather shocked but it was not that he was against it but more because he was surprised at the announcement. But most of the media spin is that he was for it . This was further fuelled when Press Sec Kim while trying to defend PMJ from accusations of being disapproving with his flustered expression , accidentally spills the beans that PMJ is not anti anyone and in fact is  wanting to enact the Anti-Discrimination Act.

 

So what was wrong with it especially when it was a good bill , which the UN has been trying to get the country to set up? This bill unfortunately is a something that many presidents in the past never dared bring up and those who did , including Yang, failed to get it passed. So here's the deal - from what I understand from reading and told to me by my SK students, this is a country that is rather homophobic. And till now has yet to set up an anti-discrimination law .  You can read more here:

The problem was this bill would spell political suicide for some and it often attracted alot of controversy . Cha was against it as he felt that PMJ was already behind OYS in the polls and right now was not the best time to get it tabled at the National Assembly.

 

OYS takes this opportunity to show his political skills, cleverly approving and disapproving in his press con. Yun and Kang wants to use this to take him down. Yun goes to see him and tells him to get it tabled even giving him tips on how to expedite the process.- Cha says her real intentions is for PMJ to be slaughtered .   PMJ was quite keen to have it tabled as the bill was a really good one and something the country sorely needed. Press Sec Kim was all for it but Cha was not keen.  The duo have rather heated exchanges till PMJ told both to shut it and not influence his judgement . Later  Cha told Kim off and said this should be taken outside ...and lol, they both had a game of basketball to see who would win. 

 

So another important development is that General Yun was discovered to be present when the bombing simulation was done in the past. He was called in for interrogation by the Security Chief. He and Agent Han took this opportunity to bug his phone before letting him go. Now Yun realised that OYS is also part of the VIP's team. So he met up covertly with OYS and said that he suspects OYS is the miraculous survivor designed by the VIP. He told OYS that they should try to rule the world ( the two of them) as the VIP was merely using them and OYS would always just be the puppet. OYS was not happy to hear that . Agent Han now is aware of VIP.  Later on OYS calls Tailor Kim demanding a meet up with VIP. He threatened to withdraw his candidacy if this was not met. (OYS isn't the obedient soldier the VIP expects eh? Don't be surprised if he gets killed off by the VIP ). 

 

Okay, i think I wrote quite a bit. Anyway , good news the kid is safe, Tae Ik is still alive but he isn't actually Tae Ik and at the end PMJ decides to get the bill tabled !  And oh i think there might be hope for our little ship as Cha was going to say something more to Jeong till Kim interrupted :D 

 

 

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not much in terms of the mystery, but that was a really good episode. i think the feel of the drama isn't super fast-paced and leans towards lots of emotions which i like along with this mystery. i'm liking everyone more and more each ep. 

 

really proud of the writers for bringing this specific subject up especially spurred by a woman and her female partner. pres. moon doesn't support lgbtq+ and the military in SK is going through many HR violations and like the UN has been asking them to stop because of the discrimination of gay/trans [men] people in the military. very interesting that they went there. as always, proud of them.

 

his conversation at the end wit the director is so sweet. she seemed so lost and i love how honest and open she was. this means a lot to people, when someone affirms that you are human and nothing is wrong with you. and when pmj basically tells her it's his duty, she has no reason to feel like she doesn't deserve happiness or equality. ah...

 

and kim nam wook had a great thing to say. besides that quote being awesome (never heard of it b4!) he has a point. why would they work so so so so hard to the point of sickness, can't see their friends, loved ones, families only to let things stay the same? what is the point? Isn't that why they do this? so they can live with dignity along with everyone else?

 

also politically it's a good move he is bringing this to the cabinet because he doesn't know if he will be elected. might as well live in the now.

 

can't wait for tomorrow!

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