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[Drama 2019] Designated Survivor : 60 Days, 60일, 지정생존자

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30 minutes ago, nrllee said:

except my mumma heart is still wondering about the boy???  :huh:  Are we supposed to assume that Han and Hoobae rescued him BEFORE they headed to the National Assembly to get TaeIk?

Maybe they didnt physically rescue him? since both tae ik and the other guy were no longer around, so maybe they called the mother? but then again, we also didnt see if they got to the place where they hid the kid ;;; i hope they dont leave this untouched man   

  

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Every thing points to Secretary Han, that he is the mole in BH. His words have deep meaning. But still I fumble at one point and that is if he is truly the mole, then why did he let PMJ fire him in earlier episode. I mean he has to report everything to the tailor group. Even CYJ said that he couldn't have had access to that file. How was he so sure that PMJ will bring him back in BH? Or is there someone else too apart from him. A mole would be a person who would have access to everything and people wont doubt him/her. What about the girl in data processing office?:huh: May be no. I am just thinking too much. Need to pass another week now. Sigh..

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https://twitter.com/CJnDrama/status/1158907544556851200?s=20

 

 

https://twitter.com/NetizenDrama/status/1158867898691178497?s=20

 

I tried to access some data from good data since Park Dae says he trusts data . Looks like the drama rating has maintained itself coming at third.

 

Speaking of data Agent HNG said that there is one more person who knows that the files were taken to the server room to be destroyed. The server room in the bunker of NSC! So maybe there is more that one data analyst among whom is the mole.

 

Would National Security Advisor Ko Young-Mok  be the mole? The one who was with Mr. Cha when they were shut down from entering the bunker. He seems to gather information real quick and does not disclose where he is getting his information. Maybe they keep him out of the loop so that he does not get suspected and the communication is one way where by he leaks info to the Tailor group!!!

 

Ko Young-Mok also could/seems to have reported to OYS about Mr. Cha's missing hours from the office and where he went??

 

I could be wrong but he seems to know a lot!

 

 

 

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I loved the way PMJ schooled the reporters in Journalism 101 during the press conference. He deflected the barrage of question/suspicion of Sec Cha by telling them that he did not resign out of guilt/criminality, instead, he wanted to protect the integrity of the Blue House from unfounded speculation. And he denied the resignation simply because facts point to his innocence and to him only facts matter. Finally, he urged the media to do the same to uphold the integrity and the people's trust in ROK's press.  

 

With his response:

1) He showed that rationality should be the way the Blue House (and by extension ROK) make decisions;

2) He showed that he is control of the situation by continuing to remain calm in face of the barrage; 

3) He showed class in front the the press, after schooling them, by reconciling the role/important of the press in informing the people of the truth.

 

And probably most important of all, he sealed the loyalty of Sec Cha, his most valuable asset/ally. After all, it takes a village to raise a child, in this case to make a President. #ParkMuJin2019

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On 8/4/2019 at 11:45 PM, nrllee said:

 

 

PMJ is a Scientist.  We’re all about facts and data.  Hunches and feelings don’t come into it.  You can have a hypothesis but unless it’s backed by evidence, it remains just that, a hypothesis.  It’s Monday.  With the number of views on the Preview I am hoping it translates to a ratings boost.  I am really enjoying this drama.  I am currently also watching Where In the World (variety) with JJH in it.  Turns out he is exactly like PMJ in real life.  It’s so strange watching him lead a bunch of men through the Desert of Oman and playing it out in real life.  :lol:  No wonder PMJ’s character resonated with him.

Sorry to cut your post.

This just sends me over the edge. Are there really guys like this? Not just in Kdramas?! Episode 9 left me in tears so many times. I especially liked how PMJ helped his future wife with her court case without being condescending, rude or "man-splaining". How could she not fall for a guy like that? And he proposes after taking her son to the hospital?! **swoon**  :wub: He's so considerate, and yet he doesn't act like he should get awards for being a decent guy. 

As a single lady, I'd love to meet a PMJ type of guy in real life. Give me logic, reason, loyalty and facts....and he's so intelligent too without being arrogant about it. A KAIST grad/prof would be most awesome, but I might work with a Cal Tech or MIT grad/prof too!

Thanks for letting me know about that show "Where in the world". 

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@shamrockmom off topic so in spoiler

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Yes there are lots of those clips Where On Earth on YouTube.  He really is a lovely decent man in real life.  Married his girlfriend (non celebrity who he met whilst a photographer).  They have 2 children.  

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2015/10/actor-ji-jin-hee-opens-up-about-his-marriage-on-taxi

 

But yes if you watch Where On Earth in Oman where he is designated leader, you will see his leadership qualities come out.  I really enjoyed that series.  Pity they stopped it after 2 series. 

 

Good luck with your search for a PMJ in your life. :)

 

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6 hours ago, nrllee said:

 

I think that’s why Han keeps trying to get Cha to switch sides.  He keeps reminding Cha that he said before he wants to win at all costs and from all the data now, it’s Oh in the lead.  He knows that if Cha remains where he is, unless he switches his allegiance back to Oh (the winner), he will be a threat to the operation because Cha has what it takes to out manoeuvre Oh.  Cha needed to go.  So even if PMJ were to run, he would be running on his own.  With Cha by his side, he would be a formidable opponent.  But PMJ out manoeuvres them this time.  Cha was tearing up like a proud teacher mentoring his student who finally “gets it”...he’s the kingmaker alright just like SJ said.  And if/when PMJ wins, Cha will be all the more fulfilled because he knew how far his student had to come to get there :lol:

There is another reason why I am suspecting Han for being the VIP. He made sure that he wasn't there, when the data was sent away but since we know that the other general belongs to the Tailor Group, we can assume that he was the one who took the file. The mistake of HGN is to forget that they are facing an organisation.

 

Han left the Blue House because he believed that PMJ would never become successful, however the opposite happened. He gained popularity. Since PMJ came to him, he agreed to come back because he realized that this was necessary. 

 

What is bothering me is that HGN is not putting the NSI chief under surveillance because his words ("one of them") revealed that he was a mole. How did he know that they were many?

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I too believe that Agent HNG should arrest Director of National Intelligence Service Ji Yoon-Bae  for neglecting to give protective custody for Jung Hanmo's family and letting his child get kidnapped. EDIT: failing to verify the truth of Jung Hanmo's concern that his son need his allergy medications and that someone has kidnapped him. Maybe it's time for her to question within the NIS for things getting out of hand in that agency. Why her files got confiscated and all that.  After all Park Dae has given her full authority to investigate anybody , is it not?

 

Also maybe Hanmo has been released and updated by Agent HNG as episode 12 was after 2 days later. But this could alert the Tailor group and they are being covert about it and still keep Hanmo in custody but with the means to rescue his child!

 

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42 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

Han left the Blue House because he believed that PMJ would never become successful, however the opposite happened. He gained popularity. Since PMJ came to him, he agreed to come back because he realized that this was necessary. 

 

I thought he was asked to leave (so he couldn’t very well have stayed even if he wanted to)?  I vaguely remember PMJ making an executive decision and fired him.  I don’t think that was planned either.  See, PMJ is a loose cannon.  He kept surprising them because he didn’t play by political rules.  They expected him to just maintain status quo.  Han had to leave and manage the operation off site.  He had enough people left on site to give him updates.  They had to rework the operation at multiple junctures when these variables were thrown into the mix, until finally they realized PMJ was getting too close to the truth of exposing them so they had to take him out.  They couldn’t wait anymore for the 60days to run its course.  

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8 minutes ago, nrllee said:

 

I thought he was asked to leave (so he couldn’t very well have stayed even if he wanted to)?  I vaguely remember PMJ making an executive decision and fired him.  I don’t think that was planned either.  See, PMJ is a loose cannon.  He kept surprising them because he didn’t play by political rules.  They expected him to just maintain status quo.  Han had to leave and manage the operation off site.  He had enough people left on site to give him updates.  They had to rework the operation at multiple junctures when these variables were thrown into the mix, until finally they realized PMJ was getting too close to the truth of exposing them so they had to take him out.  They couldn’t wait anymore for the 60days to run its course.  

He wasn't fired. He resigned as he disagreed with PMJ's decision (the executive order).

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First things first... how does PMJ managed to maintain such perfect hair at all times... even when he's in bed in hospital recuperating from major surgery from a gunshot wound?

And yes, why should Ahn Nae Sang dye his hair? No matter what kind of scoundrel Mayor Kang, I can't dislike him that much because of ANS, who plays him with a slightly theatrical flair. I've been a fan of ANS for a while now and he's one of those talented character actors that can do anything.

 

On a more serious note, despite everything negative I've ever said about PMJ, I think he did make the right decision to run for presidency. The show has made a decent case for it after all this time. He has a quality that good politicians have... and that is a desire to protect people. Of course the fact that he would step up to the plate was never in doubt but in the end he needed the right kind of push.

The part that was so lovely to me...  was the fact that PMJ made his big announcement in the way that he did and when he did, just as much to protect Cha Yeong Jin as to send a message to his opponents. For the first time perhaps, their roles reversed. PMJ became the man that CYJ knew was lying dormant. Someone who will fight for what they believe is right. I don't believe courage was ever the issue even if PMJ thinks that. What PMJ needed was a reason. We don't need courage to do things... we need reasons and the will. These will drive us to have courage we need to get things done.

 

Good people don't stay away when there's an existential fight. PMJ knows better than anyone else what is at stake. The conspiracy looms large and it's no great a surprise to anyone of us who has been paying attention that this was in large part about the treaty. So yeah, OYS wants to start a war... and I can't say I'm very surprised. He is a military man and that's the way he thinks. He's angry and he's vengeful. And judging from the way he thinks... well... he's a terrible politician. He can't work with people. He's only succeeding because he has a very powerful backer who has tremendous connections. It is exactly as someone in the show says, "He's like the student in the exam with all the answers".

Knowing what's at stake, PMJ has to act. It's like the famous Edmund Burke quote..."The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Clearly it would be safer and easier...  but it wouldn't be for the long term benefit of the country if we were all afraid to get our hands dirty.

 

I understand Sec Han's cynicism about PMJ. I share a lot of it. "A good man who wants to stay a good man so he doesn't want to get his hands dirty." But people can change their minds and it feels like PMJ has. The will to act is key. Plus PMJ has CYJ at his side which is the biggest plus point in all of this. 

 

Perhaps I'm resorting to hyperboles now but in my heart CYJ is a really great human being. In this show... the greatest. (Yeah, yeah... I'm a broken record about this) He is a finely balanced individual who has genuine goodness and shrewd intelligence. It's not a package one really expects in such an environment. His intelligence encompasses a long term view on things which I really like. Perhaps he is truly suited to being a "kingmaker"... and honestly I don't see anything wrong with that. Not everyone with intelligence has to run for office. Some of history's greatest strategists and thinkers did not rule but aided others to rule well. China's Three Kingdoms era is certainly testament to that.

 

In a way I don't really care who is behind the conspiracy... I don't feel that that's something I should obsess over. I just enjoy the human and political aspect of the show... the people and the dynamics. Whether or not Sec Han is the VIP or Blue House mole... I don't share everyone's certainty in those matters... he's an interesting character nonetheless and I do enjoy listening to his views on politics, life and people.

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3 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

And yes, why should Ahn Nae Sang dye his hair? No matter what kind of scoundrel Mayor Kang, I can't dislike him that much because of ANS, who plays him with a slightly theatrical flair. I've been a fan of ANS for a while now and he's one of those talented character actors that can do anything.

 

Hear, hear!  He’s brilliant.  Love every character he’s done.  Off topic so in spoiler 

 

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Most recently Light In Your Eyes.  Bawled my eyes out almost every episode - so cathartic  :lol:.   If you haven’t seen it I highly recommend it.  It’s a beautiful tender watch.  

 

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I loved this simple scene where his wife knew that he will be running for presidency. She never argued back with no you should not run for presidency. All she was worried was about his emotional well being.

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9 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

Actually, OYS revealed his weakness during this episode. He relies on no one, even the Chief of Defense who belongs to the organization was treated like trash by OYS. He even rejects CYJ as he views him as someone insignificant. He believes that he did great all this time, however his decisions were made based on money. He didn't close the market in order to help a certain group to buy another company. Only the rich people from that organization could benefit from it. Then the expansion of the naval base was only possible because he had the backing of someone rich: the inhabitants from that island were offered a huge compensation. Furthermore, the social media were manipulated. Everything was organized hence he shows no greatness... His successes are just the results of manipulation. 

OYS is displaying his arrogance which i believe will be his downfall. I wonder if expanding the naval base was a plan/order by the VIP.  As we can already see OYS is not the kind of person who take orders. As @40somethingahjumma said OYS is only succeeding because he has a powerful backer. I'd like to think that he will be abandoned if he gets too way over his head. 

 

About the leak on Sec Cha, we know it was OYS who had someone leaked that to the press. OYS was talking to someone and the camera zoomed in on his shoe. In another scene we saw Mayor Kang was tipping some reporters on Sec Cha. I guess the reason he's doing that is because his trying every means to tip the scales in his favor because of his current low rating but where did he get that info from?

 

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Yay!,  Sec Cha is innocent...and Yay, for President Park for annoucing his candadicy. We all expect this, otherwise there wouldnt be any drama... hehe

 

Oh my, Kim Dan, in this drama is the reporter.. when he said his name, i nearly choked... (aigooo, the other angel Kim Dan might cough too, haha)... :)

 

Well, Sec Han is still not out of the woods as the prime suspect.... so we shall seee..

 

YAY also for Sec Jeong and Sec Cha who eventually will have that beer date... Sooooonnnnnn....:)

 

 

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On 8/6/2019 at 5:06 PM, sn2111a said:

Maybe they didnt physically rescue him? since both tae ik and the other guy were no longer around, so maybe they called the mother? but then again, we also didnt see if they got to the place where they hid the kid ;;; i hope they dont leave this untouched man   

  

OK good, I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering what happened to the little boy who was kidnapped. He needed his medication, IIRC. I hope they don't leave this as a plot hole. 

For anyone who would like some additional insight into the economic issues (stock market crashing, panic, etc.) you might want to watch the Kmovie from last year "Sovereign Default" with Yoo Ah In.

 

PM me for link to Eng sub movie as I don't want to run afoul of the Soompi rules!



 

In the movie, YAI's character figures out that the US (with the help of the IMF) is going to manipulate the overleveraged (think: borrowed too much money) financial markets and figures out how to profit from it. The few clients he has that believe him reap a windfall--just like OYS's comrade who made money off the panic in this series. If you don't wanna spend 2 hours watching the movie, you can read my review here. I try to explain some of the economic issues, but since I am no econ major and possess a Pea-Sized brain (LOL) it is very simplistic.

 

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