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[Drama 2019] Designated Survivor : 60 Days, 60일, 지정생존자

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1 hour ago, triplem said:

Lol! I do too  though right now I’m still trying to figure out if he’s the mastermind behind the bombing . My gut feelings is no because the more obvious Agent Han highlights it , the more it’s unlikely the case ; OCN dramas taught me this :lol:

 

 

Well... they can always pull a double bluff... Throw out red herrings and then come back to the original suspect at the 11th hour. On the one hand, it does seem obvious and very early to have such revelations but then they could do a Columbo on us... tell us who the perps are early on but not give us the motive and then we have to work out how they can catch him. Voice (an OCN drama with 3 seasons) did that kind of stuff as well. :D ;)

Moreover he may not be the mastermind... he could just be a co-conspirator. On the other hand, someone might be using him for misdirection. There were other people not there on that day. Assemblywoman Oh, I think is worthy of some suspicion. She's very savvy and she was very much against President Yang's reunification platform. The thing is though, I don't know how ruthless or idealistic she is. Is she the kind of person capable of doing something like this?

 

I doubt it's the N.Korean leadership per se behind it though. It could be a combination of people on both sides of the DMZ that don't want this treaty to happen. But it does feel like Pyongyang wants to have a relationship with the South.

 

I noticed someone mentioning how they liked the geopolitical aspect to it. I do as well. That's another aspect to the show I find more fascinating than the local politicking. I was especially interested in the Cambodian angle because I was there earlier in the year doing the tourist thing.

 

The show definitely has a lot potential... plenty of balls in the air... How well the writer maintains the juggling act will determine how well this turns out.

 

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I just realised it’s been less than 4 days he has been in the hot seat , and already he’s made a couple of executive decisions & “fired”  the former Chief Secretary . I’m waiting for the moment when he realises he wants this power . 

 

 

 

Not just realising he wants the power but also what it takes from him to hold on to it as well. He can see that it can be used for good but he needs to learn to be deft about it. It's a double-edged sword. He could end up cutting himself while scoring victories. Unless of course he sees himself as some kind of self-sacrificing, suffering messiah. :P

 

As for OYS... if I were in any kind of position to do so, I'd vote for him to be president just for looking so darn good in uniform. :D

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5 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

As for OYS... if I were in any kind of position to do so, I'd vote for him to be president just for looking so darn good in uniform

How can I blame you, just look at him ...:love:

 

Oh YS delivering the eulogy . This guy is a true politician . Trust or not trust him :lol: He knows how to work the crowd

i found Google translations of some of bits of his speech ..  you have to give it to this guy He’ll swing the votes to himself  if he was running as President 

 

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Why should I be the name of a miracle when I lose my dear friend and companion as a helpless man in front of an unacceptable terror 

 

It is because the Republic of Korea is ashamed of the Republic of Korea, the country of the unfortunate people whose unqualified people took power. But, more embarrassingly shameful, I am standing here because I am a survivor.

 

 

I will not do it. I can not grieve these deaths here. It is embarrassing and shameful. A country that is incapable of protecting its people, a country that has yet to find the cause of terrorism, and a cowardly government that repays the sacrifices of loved ones

 

Why did I give such a heavy medal to the only survivors of the cattle? But it was an order issued to me. It is a majestic command that no more innocent sacrifices should be allowed before the name of our country. I can not even be sad that I can not keep the command

 

The name of a shameful survivor is the end of the day. I will return this medal which the Republic of Korea, which I once proud of, has given me, until the day when the Republic of Korea is built so that nobody will be able to treat this nation with anybody. ✔️ I will not be in vain.

 

 

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But actually before this Agent Han went to his house to confront him and showed him the photo of him missing from his seat just before the  bombing . He somehow deflected from answering her . But take note , up from the 2nd floor , there’s someone observing them from the window . Not sure if it’s his aides / family but they ran down to confront Han as they were angry that she said Oh is lying 

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@Ameera Ali He  is in deep contemplation :lol:

 

 

A lot more LJH tomorrow.  My fan girl heart is happy :D

 

 

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Another good episode it was, Ep 5.  

 

I need some clarification though. Who were those in the picture found by Pres Park's son in his mother's (the First Lady) purse?  I couldn't recognize them nor make sense why the son asked if the President has ever lied to him after seeing the picture. 

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3 hours ago, mel22 said:

Another good episode it was, Ep 5.  

 

I need some clarification though. Who were those in the picture found by Pres Park's son in his mother's (the First Lady) purse?  I couldn't recognize them nor make sense why the son asked if the President has ever lied to him after seeing the picture. 

it look likes his mom and other man. his mother was pregnant in the picture

 

Episode 5 clarified lot of things. especially YS motive if he is the mastermind of the bombing.

 

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If you don’t have time & need to read a recap

 https://www.thereviewgeek.com/designatedsurvivor-60days-s1e5review/

 

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Oh’s Eulogy

To say last week’s episode ended on a cliffhanger would be an understatement. With the entire country watching Park’s every move, we return to Designated Survivor: 60 Days this week right where we left off from before. Backed into a corner, Park admits to being fired much to the dismay of the Blue House administration. After the broadcast ratings sky-rocket and the Acting President’s credibility is called into question, Cha phones Yun and tells her he’s intrigued by her offer but refuses to align himself with Yun. 

Heading home after his ordeal, Park offers some fatherly words of encouragement to Si-Wan who notices a picture in his Father’s bag, prompting him to ask his father if he’s ever lied to him. Eyeing his son and wondering if an alternative motive is at play, the next day the Acting President and the administration breathe a sign of relief as they learn Park can continue on in his role as no foul play was involved.

Investigator Na-Gyung notices that Oh is giving a eulogy speech after the victims have been honoured, prompting her to confront him on the matter. She heads to Oh’s house and shows him the photos from the CCTV footage, asking him about his whereabouts at the time of the explosion. He gets shifty and tells her he doesn’t remember, unbeknownst to him that they’re not alone. However, when the other officers do eventually reveal themselves, he tells them to leave. Outside, Na-Gyung learns the truth, that Oh is actually innocent and he’s a war vet suffering with PTSD.

The memorial gets underway and Park arrives with the Blue House. Oh Yeoung then shows up in uniform to give his speech but Na has her doubts about his credibility. He tells the crowd he can’t give a eulogy and proceeds to ridicule the state and the administration. Its a powerful, rousing speech and a harsh reminder that politics often come before emotions. He rips off his medal of honour and faces the memorial wall while Na’s doubts slowly fade in wake of these new revelations. With a final salute, Oh leaves everyone in silence.

Back at the office, Park learns that the Cambodian government have given him an ultimatum. Unfortunately, General Lee refuses to give Park respect and to make matters worse, someone has leaked the North Korean video to the press. However, this happens to have an adverse effect, leading to public opinion to sway in favour of President Park. After a talk with Yun on the matter, Park figures out whose leaked the video – Cha. He hands Park his letter of resignation, saying he wants to be on the winning side, as Park leaves him in silence to find General Lee.

Ignoring President Park’s wishes, he preps the Special Ops team ready to fight but doesn’t bank on Park using his authority either. The Acting President relieves Lee of duty and appears to promote Ms. Jeong to become his Chief Presidential Secretary but it was actually Cha all along. He admits to her, in a rare moment of vulnerability, that he needs him going forward.

Park then heads off to visit former Secretary Han and they share a drink together. He asks whether the late President felt lonely and burdened and after they talk for a bit, Park heads home while Han reminisces on old times; a single tear running down his cheek. In a flashback, we see the President dismissed Park before he got greedy as Park’s heart was too good for politics.

After leaving her post at the station, Na heads home and begins reminiscing over her late fiance’s death. However, she receives a call from an anonymous person, complete with a voice scrambler, asking her if she wants to find out how Oh Yeong-Seok survived. She’s told to find Room 119 on the blueprints and as she frantically looks through the schematics, we leave the episode on another big cliffhanger.

There’s no doubting that Designated Survivor: 60 Days is a dramatic show. There’s some really good work done here to build the characters up and Park growing a backbone this week and beginning to exert his authority is a really nice sign of his character progression over the weeks. There’s certainly some echoed plot points carried over from the original Designated Survivor too but for the most part, they fit perfectly in with the narrative being built here.

The show does have its quiet moments though but despite a lack of action, the politically charged drama has been great to watch throughout the episodes so far. With the administration seemingly settled for now, tomorrow’s episode promises some answers to the big questions hanging over the series

But I don’t know if I should trust Oh yet :D 

 

I like Secretary Cha more & more with every episode & I am happy that PMJ recognises he needs him . In some ways doesn’t this signal that PMJ is thinking a lot more long term then he cares to admit . For a caretaker president, his decisions every episode does not seem like a seat warmer to me. Love it.

 

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And thanks TvN for sailing  this little ship forward :D

 

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16 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

Assemblywoman Oh, I think is worthy of some suspicion. She's very savvy and she was very much against President Yang's reunification platform. The thing is though, I don't know how ruthless or idealistic she is. Is she the kind of person capable of doing something like this?

 

I doubt it's the N.Korean leadership per se behind it though. It could be a combination of people on both sides of the DMZ that don't want this treaty to happen. But it does feel like Pyongyang wants to have a relationship with the South.

 

 

I have doubt on Assemblywoman Oh from the start. Why must of all the days, she decided to boycott the president and not going to the National Assembly on D-day. As if she knows what is happening. She also know how to manipulate the public views on her the very night after the incident. Like come on, if she is really shock she must think on her political status first and not the victims. 

 

I think in this story, they are using N. Korea to become scapegoat. My guess is it relates to the issue with the US exports. Like somebody behind the scene (may already shown or may not) wants to make North and South at war and monopolized something. 

 

I hope non of the prepators/mastermind.spy are from the blue house staffs (sec Cha, press officer Kim, sec Jeong and the specky protocol guy) and not Chief Sec too,.

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Watching the subbed eps now .....doesn't the last sentence uttered by Oh YS to the dead president's picture raise some suspicion  - I won't let this be in vain. It can really be interpreted in so many ways ( and of course I could be overreading it). One which has been playing in my head is that he did indeed plan this. In spite of 'proof' that he went out to pick up a call from the war veteran, it could all have been very cleverly set up.And someone like OYS could easily survive this - after all the man is a war vet who has gone through a lot.  I don't know , but doesn't his speech sound like he has this messianic complex/ tendency? I am speculating of course , but based on what his navy colleague said to Han, there is a possibility that he and the war vets may all have been very upset that the government etc had abandoned them 7 years ago during that Battle of Bangyeong (not sure of the spelling) , and they could have been disappointed with how the country has become and thus this is their plan to "save'' the nation. I'd like to find out what led Oh YS into politics  :D

 

edit to add- Cha telling Park off and telling the latter the hard truth in that store room was the highlight of the episode. Cha is one smart guy. Park makes a good choice appointing him as Chief of Staff. If Park intends to stay in power and run for the seat, he will need someone like him. Sec Jeong is way too naive.

And it seems like previous President was a pretty good guy considering how loyal his older staff were to him and the grounds for dismissing Park was to protect him.

 

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Im still waiting for the scene when President Park ask Sec Cha to be his Chief of Staff... such a cliffhanger and surprise.. :)

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1 hour ago, triplem said:

Watching the subbed eps now .....doesn't the last sentence uttered by Oh YS to the dead president's picture raise some suspicion  - I won't let this be in vain. It can really be interpreted in so many ways ( and of course I could be overreading it). One which has been playing in my head is that he did indeed plan this. In spite of 'proof' that he went out to pick up a call from the war veteran, it could all have been very cleverly set up.And someone like OYS could easily survive this - after all the man is a war vet who has gone through a lot.  I don't know , but doesn't his speech sound like he has this messianic complex/ tendency? I am speculating of course , but based on what his navy colleague said to Han, there is a possibility that he and the war vets may all have been very upset that the government etc had abandoned them 7 years ago during that Battle of Bangyeong (not sure of the spelling) , and they could have been disappointed with how the country has become and thus this is their plan to "save'' the nation. I'd like to find out what led Oh YS into politics  :D

 

 

I pick that also up. It made him more suspicious to me. 

 

 OYS friend also has some kind of ptsd so that could also be a factor of OYS to plan this kind of save of nation. 

How much OYS must hate his country? I mean they were literally left to fight they own 7 years ago. The country didn't care if they came back alive or not.

 

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I watched the American version, and wonder how close the Korean version will stick to the original script.  I understand that certain circumstances will be different based on Korea's government structure, culture, and adversaries.  However, if it sticks to the original premise, then North Korea is not the blame for the terrorist attack. 

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And he fired yet another high ranking official in ep.5 :sweatingbullets: Not a seat warmer for sure @triplem

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I binge watched the season 1 of the American version a few weeks back.

 

So far a majority of the plotline for the Korean version had followed quite closely to the American version. 

It is quite identical and predictable. 

 

So by ep.5, I can be quite sure of the characters behind the bombing. :joy:

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8 hours ago, ryanallright said:

 

So by ep.5, I can be quite sure of the characters behind the bombing. :joy:

When you do , maybe you can tell us :w00t:. But do put it in spoiler. 

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By the way - it’d be best if you guys who have watched the American series to put any comparisons in spoiler , just in case we have members who prefer not to know . Thank you ! 

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10 hours ago, ktcjdrama said:

And he fired yet another high ranking official in ep.5 :sweatingbullets: Not a seat warmer for sure @triplem

Oh yeah , he’s no seat warmer at all . I watched a bit of eps 6 just before I knocked off to slumberland  and he’s already thinking very strategically . When the negotiations with Cambodia broke down , he said he still had one hidden card which was Oh . ( sounds so like a legit politician to me , should see how pleased Cha was :D )  Thanks to the video leak there was chaos in the country with people stocking up on supplies , preparing for war & demanding that Park & the Govt get Cambodia to extradite that NK guy ( can’t remember his name ) immediately. So Park offered Oh the Acting PM position to help calm people’s nerves & deal with this issue ( somewhat to stall time ) . 

 

But of course Oh ( who’s also being invited by Yun to join her party & be their presidential candidate) , turned it down . Oh is definitely a shrewd one here thinking 10 thousand steps in advance :w00t: and told Park to his face that he knows the latter is pretty much using him & he won’t use people’s grief as his political asset ;). But he did give a useful tip to Park . He says if you’re going to use an indirect way to deal with domestic relations, why not use it externally- that gave Park the idea to speak to Cambodia’s neighbours. 

 

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7 hours ago, ryanallright said:

I binge watched the season 1 of the American version a few weeks back.

 

So far a majority of the plotline for the Korean version had followed quite closely to the American version. 

It is quite identical and predictable. 

 

So by ep.5, I can be quite sure of the characters behind the bombing. :joy:

Can you share it in spoiler... i want to know of my hunch is right. 

 

This drama is so good yet not manyvtalking about it. Even in Twitter there’s so little news about this show. It’s not a hype drama and i am sad. Coz the content is soooo gooood. 

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Done watching Ep 6. I hope by next week, we can get Han Na Gyeong to contact the Blue House and report to the president on her findings. As of now I think she and her team are working in Silo and the President  is unaware of the crucial evidence she had found so far. 

 

Now, it is kinda confirm that Assemblyman Oh is behind the bombing. But the more important thing is either he is the mastermind or he is just a commander and there is someone else behind him who is the great mastermind. His character is very shady, one minute he showed us that he wants difference and seems to like Park Mu Jin and another minute, with that sly smirk he makes us do believe he is the culprit. 

 

One thing I am quite sure. Him, assemblywoman Yoon and the Seoul Mayor have something to do with the bombing one way or another as each of them have their own motive to do that. 

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Ok let me spoil a bit.

 

But of course, there are still some differences between two versions, especially based what I observed after 6 episodes when there were more characters in Korean version.

 

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Based on what I observed so far

 

Oh Young Seok is Korean version Peter MacLeish who is also the sole survivor of the American version who later became Vice President (in this case, for Korean should be the Prime Minister as they do not have the role of Vice President).

If the Korean version does follow the American version closely, he would be the member of the organisation that is behind the bombing. But I am not sure how closely it will be as the American version was killed off by the mid-season after being discovered to be part of this bombing plot.

 

Han Joo Seung is a character which I could not find in American version. so he is a unique one.

Cha Young Jin is Korean version Aaron Stone.

Jung Soo Jung is Korean version Emily Rhodes

Kim Nam Wook is Korean version Seth Wright

Yoon Chan Kyung is Korean version Kimble Hookstraten

 

Seoul Mayor Kang is based loosely to the American version as both of them use police forces to oppress a certain group.

However, the difference is that the American version got arrested for treason while Mayor Kang is still in the running to be the Presidential candidate for the current ruling party.

 

Some other similar plotline

Agent Han investigating of Oh 

Firing of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (ep.5)

Death of the commanding officer of the operation (ep.6)

Agent Han lost her fiance in the plot (Agent Wells also lost hers in the American version)

In the toilet scene, Kim Nam Wook talking about his lack of confidence in the acting president (ep.2)

Kim Nam Wook taking over as the spokeman of the administration

 

Thinking if there is a season 2, it should be Park coming out to declare that he will run for president.

 

TLDR. LOL

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Just watched Ep5.  Still keeping me interested and invested in the characters. :) 

 

Thoughts

1. Siwan (?) (son of PMJ).  I like PMJ’s approach as a dad.  He’s a consistent man.  Doesn’t fly off the handle.  Doesn’t jump to conclusions.  Always giving you the benefit of the doubt.  Innocent till proven guilty.  I wonder what his answer was to Siwan’s question, “you’ve never lied to me before right dad?” Poor boy.  I can only imagine what’s going on in his head.  Did mom have an affair?  Am I the son of another man?  Does dad know?  If he doesn’t, should I tell him?  He’s already under so much pressure as the Acting President.  This would crush him.  :tears:  He’s very protective of his dad.  As his mother hinted, the fight he got into was because some other kid made fun of PMJ at school.

 

2. I liked how PMJ sought comfort in his wife’s hand as they walked out of the car at the funeral.  Then she responded in kind after they sat down.

 

3. I am with most here who suspect Oh.  He is bitter that the nation left them for dead at the Battle.  The PTSD suffered by the soldiers would only harden his resolve.  Doesn’t look like the nation supported the soldiers on return either if he (and not some medical professional) was the lifeline for the Private (?) with PTSD?  But he seems to be too obvious a choice?  Especially when someone is feeding information to Agent Han like they are trying to pin it on him?  It’s definitely NOT North Korea.  They wouldn’t go down that path, not when real life peace talks are tenuous at best.  It would be unpatriotic.  Certainly Assemblywoman Yoon and Mayor Kang can’t be ruled out.

 

4. Sec Han...or should I refer to him as ex Sec?  The camera made a point of zooming in on a pic on the mantle behind him as he was watching the TBN news interview... a girl in a wheelchair with a drip attached to her (she’s obviously sick)?  It was very quick and I can’t make out if she’s young or old...maybe daughter?  Wife?  There’s a story there.  Could he be the curve ball?  The man behind it all?

 

5. Love the blossoming office romance between Cha and Soo Jung.  I like how she turned him down...come on, chicken and beer?  He’s gotta do better than that?  :lol:.  I think he knew that too after their conversation.  Love how she gifted him with Instant Noodles as a congratulatory present.  She’s not a woman to be pitied.  She may have lost the job to him but she’s not going to wallow.  She still has her pride.  :wub:  Keep chasing Cha, she’s impressed that’s for sure, but she doesn’t give in easy, you have to keep wooing her.  :lol:

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25 minutes ago, nrllee said:

4. Sec Han...or should I refer to him as ex Sec?  The camera made a point of zooming in on a pic on the mantle behind him as he was watching the TBN news interview... a girl in a wheelchair with a drip attached to her (she’s obviously sick)?  It was very quick and I can’t make out if she’s young or old...maybe daughter?  Wife?  There’s a story there.  Could he be the curve ball?  The man behind it all?

 

5. Love the blossoming office romance between Cha and Soo Jung.  I like how she turned him down...come on, chicken and beer?  He’s gotta do better than that?  :lol:.  I think he knew that too after their conversation.  Love how she gifted him with Instant Noodles as a congratulatory present.  She’s not a woman to be pitied.  She may have lost the job to him but she’s not going to wallow.  She still has her pride.  :wub:  Keep chasing Cha, she’s impressed that’s for sure, but she doesn’t give in easy, you have to keep wooing her.  :lol:

I totally missed that scene with the photo. I have go back and watch it.  But he could be the curve ball. There is something about him that I don't like. But it could also be that I'm over thinking.

 

I totally ship Cha and Soojung. This drama need little bit new romance..

 

something stuck me when watching episode 6. 

OYS was fitting he's new suit and the fitter asked who is the higher up he was talking. OYS was talking with the President park but he answered to the fitter that some who doesn't belong/fit in the blue house. What did he mean by that? 

Does he think he's  the better match. I actually want to know how does he justifies what he has done to the people if he would be elected to president. Would he say that I'm going to save this nation that's why to people had to die It is really intresting.

He's involved in the bombing for sure but is he the big bad guy. I don't think so.

 

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38 minutes ago, joccu said:

 

I totally ship Cha and Soojung. This drama need little bit new romance..

 

something stuck me when watching episode 6. 

OYS was fitting he's new suit and the fitter asked who is the higher up he was talking. OYS was talking with the President park but he answered to the fitter that some who doesn't belong/fit in the blue house. What did he mean by that? 

Does he think he's  the better match. I actually want to know how does he justifies what he has done to the people if he would be elected to president. Would he say that I'm going to save this nation that's why to people had to die It is really intresting.

He's involved in the bombing for sure but is he the big bad guy. I don't think so.

 

I like when Sec Cha is excited to get the gift and how he cursed himself for asking her out wrong way. 

 

About OYS, that is why I said he is such hard to read character and the actor just makes the character alive. We want to curse him but on the other side, we sympathize him. I hope his true colours will reveal soon. What ever it is. 

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