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I was reading the translations of this novel but haven't caught any episodes. Hearing that Drama RY is sassy must mean that the drama is very VERY loosely based on the novel. Novel RY was extremely beautiful but outwardly very aloof. 

 

I'm guessing there are no subs yet?

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7 minutes ago, crackaddict said:

I was reading the translations of this novel but haven't caught any episodes. Hearing that Drama RY is sassy must mean that the drama is very VERY loosely based on the novel. Novel RY was extremely beautiful but outwardly very aloof. 

 

I'm guessing there are no subs yet?

 

May I ask where did you read the translation as I would also like to read it too?

 

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Initial impressions...

 

It's always a pleasure to watch a drama where the leads are intelligent people and that's including the 2ML who has his own agenda. For me, this is the sort of detective drama that when done well surpasses everything else that come out of Cdrama land. The potential is there for that to happen but a lot rests on the writing which is so far pretty good. I didn't think that the Ran Yan character really needed to be that impertinent towards Xiao Yu right from Day 1 but it is one of those tropes that Asian dramas can't seem to resist. ;) His strategy of course is to toy with her as would befit someone of his foresight and shrewdness as well as an innate self-confidence that comes from being sure of his abilities. Clearly he is a good judge of people and talent among his other skills. On top of that he is rather open-minded for his time, engaging a woman to be his personal forensic pathologists because he knows her skills are extraordinary. His nickname for her is on point: hu li... she can sniff out the details and from what I gather, foxes grip their prey with their canines until they're dead or disemboweled. He seldom takes offence at her outbursts (I imagine it's because he's generally in a superior bargaining position but also he's amused by her antics) and her bark is usually worse than her bite. He's the kind of male character that I relish watching. Not overly garrulous, not overly aloof but sharp and somewhat mischievous. While he toys with the FL, he doesn't feel the need to denigrate her. And that... I really really like. Plus his logical and pragmatic side also seems to override any egotistical tendencies which I also find very attractive. 

 

Unlike what she thinks initially, he isn't a heartless man even if he manages to push her buttons. Her prejudice clouds her judgment somewhat but that gradually softens over time when she realises that he's not just all talk. She's a good partner-in-crime for him not just to cover the forensic pathology side of things but as they deliberate over the cases. Like a Watson to his Holmes. His 

 

Ran Yan's relationship with Su Fu is surprisingly less cliche. He's not obviously a non-contender in that it is possible she could ride off with him at the end except for the fact that he's involved in some deep dark plot against the throne. He is a sword-carrying, walking bag of angst and I guess he really does care about her. ;) Whether he cares enough to abandon his role in the conspiracy that he's a part of, that remains to be seen. But she is crushing on him at this point so he does seem to be the frontrunner in this love triangle. At the very least she is responding to his gentle nature although his threats to kill her doesn't seem to be an impediment. :D

 

That said, I can't see why Xiao Yu can't be with Ran Yan at the finishing line even if he's handicapped by the fact that Ran Yan is already betrothed to Su Fu and that he's been very "unlucky" with marriage... being twice widowered already. ;) As she notes, it might not be anything to do with how his stars are aligned but that might be an explanation much closer to home. That is a telling statement and perhaps there's an avenue that will be explored down the track in the context of the investigations. It's evident that he cares about her beyond the bounds of business and work. The hu li nickname is becoming increasingly a term of endearment especially now that he's given her a jade fox to commemorate their successful working relationship. :D

 

I also like the inclusion of the scholar character as a member of the team. A little bit on the timid side but has a useful skill set as well. ;) Apparently he has picturing ability which should come in handy again.

 

The cases are nicely constructed and deconstructed by our detectives. This is the sort of thing I wanted more of in Under the Power. They are complex enough to be intriguing but not overly convoluted that they're dragged out unreasonably. The template is something I'm happy to buy into. Individual cases with an overarching storyline that functions separately. Any of that could change of course... but seeing that it's a 36 episode drama, I'm fairly confident we won't be bogged down by too many non-criminal related subplots.

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Question for anyone who has read the novel, 

 



Does the FL end up with the ML or the 2nd ML (her fiancee)? I'm hoping Toby Li gets the girl in this drama.

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I might have just found my new drama crack... :D

The latest and newest 6 episodes have definitely cemented my newfound fervour for this drama and for young Toby. I'm even warming up to Zhou Jie Song. I've gone a bit fanatical and watched the last 6 at least twice already. For some unknown reason it just hits all the right notes with me. ;) It's not perfect of course. Editing continues to be a problem in C dramas although this is certainly not the worst I've experience. But the OST is actually reasonably good.

 

I've come to realise in the last couple of years of watching C dramas that often the gems are really to be found amongst those that feature lesser or unknown actors. Maybe it behooves the production team to rely less on star power and more on the writing and storytelling to do the heavy lifting. It's not as if the lesser known actors are talentless either but they're not the primary drawcard I expect.

 

I don't usually have a problem coming up with the "who" of the whodunnits here but I enjoy finding out the "whys" and the "whats". I'm also somewhat amused that they even managed to insert a serial killing case into the mix anachronistically explained with modern profiling tools. ;) I refer specifically to the third case with the Snow Witch folklore.

 

This drama does remind me of the two C drama Justice Bao dramas I saw years ago. The first one (Young Justice Bao 2) starring Lu Yi and the second (YJB3), Deng Cao. It's the kind of format I prefer for the genre. Smaller individual cases to begin with that may or may not have anything to do with larger conspiracies. I hope the pearl at the centre of things presently isn't just a McGuffin. I hope that goes somewhere after all the build up.

 

As for the progression of the romance, I'm largely content with how things are progressing. It's probably less common that the FL doesn't fall head over heels with the ML first but it isn't something that never happens either . As someone who isn't normally enamoured with love triangles, this one is actually tolerable and surprisingly well-integrated into the storyline. It doesn't come across as some unnecessary appendage for the most part. It also makes sense why Ran Yan isn't head over heels with Xiao Song because with their respective personalities, they're bound to clash hard at the start. He wants something from her, she drives a hard bargain so he pushes her buttons to make her give in, she does grudgingly. All the makings of a beautiful romance. :lol: Truth be told, she didn't learn to be a coroner just to sit around and twiddle her thumbs. So he understands something about her that she doesn't realise about herself. Still Su Fu is her knight in shining armour future fiance with a sob story so the lonely girl in her is swept off her feet.

 

Of course I'm not a fan of the screechy step-sister (who could be) who has her eye on Xiao Song as husband material. She may have succeeded in getting her hooks into him but Ran Yan's efforts to trigger her is quite funny. Humour also comes from Cui Sang, the genius scholar that's crushing on RY. His plan of being stuck with her in the forest came to naught. Not a contender for suitor, I don't think. ;) Of course there's the banter between leads... although lately he seems less inclined. The nicknames that they have for each other started off somewhat cheesy but I'm becoming quite fond of them. What I really like about that is that it highlights a bond between them that no one else shares. It may have started as teasing and insult but it's gradually becoming more about endearment and intimacy.

 

One of the surprising things is that Xiao Song confesses so early and then retracts by saying that he tricked her. Avoiding a loss of face? I don't think so. I suppose he did it partly to test the waters and he knows that RY is in love with SF... at least it's the obvious conclusion to come to. So he retreats. I doubt he's given up completely. Not that he really can if he's drawn to her like a moth to a flame.

 

It is telling that both men are not properly understood by RY. Given her background and age, it's not surprising. She has an anti-authoritarian streak from being mistreated by her own family so there's a prejudice there and she presumes that what you see is what you get. I also think that she doesn't quite know who she is or what she wants. Although she claims that the Merman puts her in jeopardy, the reality is that she relishes risk-taking. That he knows all too well. Why else would she deal in corpses and go after leads? She's never played it safe even as a child so why start now?

 

Despite how the odds are stacked against him right now, I still root for Xiao Song to get the girl. Ultimately he's a brilliant nerd that wants to play detective and she's a good fit for him. The other half, in fact. ;) While he may toy with her at times, he cares for her much more than she realises. Given time, I think she will realise fully that he is someone she can't do without, given his passion and hers.

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20 hours ago, whome said:

Question for anyone who has read the novel, 

 

 

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Does the FL end up with the ML or the 2nd ML (her fiancee)? I'm hoping Toby Li gets the girl in this drama.

 

 

 

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I read to chapter 78 cause translator stopped.  However, I read spoilers, she ends up with ML, the prince, if the drama follows the novel.  I wish someone continue the translation cause I want to read the details of how the end up together.  I read the preview of their romance and it was interesting.  The ML already likes her after two encounter but he can't marry a commoner.  I read spoil that she loves the assassin and she helped him escape  being captured by the ML twice.

 

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Dangit... I spent a couple of hours in the morning translating the previews for next week's episodes and they were taken down. Anyway... I managed to track down these videos.

 

Interesting plot twists... It's all spoilery so look at your own risk. ;)

 

Episode 17 Preview Translation (Under spoiler tags)

Spoiler

 

 

0:01

Huli (Fox) It's good that you're fine

Pretty

Miss, Yan'er, Yan'er

Very pretty

Yan'er

You're hurting me

Miss

Yan'er

You

Very pretty

Enough!

 

0:20

My Lord!

RY's husband is Su Fu. If there's anyone that should take her away it's him.

My Lord, the one you're marrying is me

I'm pregnant with your child. Have you forgotten?

 

I'm going to take RY away

Anyone who dares stop me will be killed!

My Lord!

 

0:36

It's very strange.

This lantern stand is very sturdy

There was no strong wind that day

Don't know why but it fell

 

0:45

Guo Fu didn't die by loss of blood through poisoning

But before blood was sucked out of him, he was shot dead in the neck by an iron bead/pellet

 

0:52

You wicked man! Let me go!

This room... you should remember it, right?

Help me prepare betrothal gifts

The one I want to marry is Ran Yan

 

1:18

I will a lifetime cherishing this little fox
Heaven and earth be my witness

I will never go back on my word

 

 

Episode 18 (Finally got the correct video in)

Spoiler

 

0:02

Bad Merman

Wake up quickly

(What is this new trend in medicine feeding using mouth to mouth?!)

 

0:13

I'm taking her with me

She's now my woman

She doesn't belong to you

She's mine now

Someone! Arrest him!

Wait a moment!

When his injuries get better, I'll come look for you

 

0:35

Hand that thing over then I will save you

 

0:47

This body has six toes

So does this body actually belong to Yu Dezhi?

Yu Dezhi?

 

0:57

Why is it a bracelet?

The grain lines in here

It must be my mother's bracelet

 

1:04

This crystal box covered in gold has brilliant, vibrant colours

It looks like an artifact from the royal palace

Marquis Shui's Pearl (I'm not sure about this one)

This is indeed a clue to Marquis Shui's Pearl

 

1:21

When I was six, I discovered something from inside my ancestor tablet

It was that.

 

 

Episode 19 Preview Translation (under spoiler tags)

Super spoilery... you have been warned. Includes the truth of her mother's death.

 

Spoiler

 

 

0:00 

I've spent 12 years looking for you

You used the Ran family as cover trying to find that thing

That was my task/mission

Your mother's death was about preserving your life

Don't you want to avenge her?

You!

 

0:19

A fake artifact can kill 2 birds with a stone

I want to thank you

Killer

Merman Xiao, you used me

Someone!

Who dares touch him! Let him go!

You're married to me already

I'm sorry. He's the only one in my heart.

 

0:42

Stupid woman. He doesn't love you at all. He's only using you.

He got close to you to get the Marquis Shui's Pearl (I think that's what it should be but not 100% about it)

What he said, is it all true?

 

1:11

I have to leave.

Do you have to leave for Chang'an so soon?

Can't go against the royal decree.

Hu Li (Fox) you're now free.

 

 

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5 hours ago, lovehuche said:

 

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I read to chapter 78 cause translator stopped.  However, I read spoilers, she ends up with ML, the prince, if the drama follows the novel.  I wish someone continue the translation cause I want to read the details of how the end up together.  I read the preview of their romance and it was interesting.  The ML already likes her after two encounter but he can't marry a commoner.  I read spoil that she loves the assassin and she helped him escape  being captured by the ML twice.

 

 

do u have the book title :) 

 

 

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Okay found the other videos...

 

Episode 15  Preview Translation (under spoiler tags)

Marriage Announcements etc... 

Spoiler

 

 

 

0:21

The marriage of my oldest daughter Ran Yan and Su Fu is fixed to be on the eighth day of the next month.

I object!

Master Ran I boldly propose marriage  

What?

 

0:45

Master... Miss Ran... She

What is it? Speak up.

She's pregnant

I'm pregnant with Lord Xiao [Song's] child

Impudent!

Lord Xiao... this...

 

0:58

Not valuing what is precious

Loyalty is assumed to be treasured

This is a moral principle of life

Since you've committed the act

You must acknowledge it

 

1:14

This is mother's handwriting

To have found that thing

 

1:29

Is there really a corpse buried under the floor?

 

 

 

Episode 16 Preview Translation

 

Spoiler

 

 

0:00

You!

Stop!

Who is this under there?

It's my mum, right?

 

Mother. I never expected that one day I would have to personally examine your corpse. I will help you find the truth of why you died.

 

0:24

I have first applied alcohol and vinegar to the bones. If these bones sustained injuries due to beating, blood would have entered the marrow.

When the bones are being steamed, all the blood that has seeped into the marrow will be drawn out.

 

0:49

No more beating!

Stop the beating!

 

0:53

That night the wind must've been very strong, causing the many flowers to fall off. There were many next to my mother's body but none on her body.

This means... that my mother didn't die here

 

1:09

Sir, take a look. This marking...

Doesn't it look like a woman's bracelet?

Moreover, it seems familiar

Please return this bracelet to Ran Yan

 

1:20

Ran Yan's bracelet has this pattern

 

1:22

This bracelet is not my mother's heirloom at all

But evidence of the culprit that's been left to me by my mother

 

 

 

Episode 20 Preview Translation

Seems like everyone's in Chang'an now...

 

Spoiler

 

0:00

Miss... Have we gone the wrong way?

Why does this living quarters look exactly the same as ours?

Miss! Miss!

Even the furniture looks exactly the same

 

0:17

I will call you Xiao Bai (Little White)

You are Xiao Hui Hui (Little Black One)

I will call you Xiao Song then! (named after Xiao Song... a pun I think)

 

0:27

The silver fox is a protected animal in Tang. You actually killed one. I must arrest you for your crime.

 

0:31

They wrongly accused me of it.

Merman Xiao, you must save me

 

I don't know her

Deal with her however you like

 

Mermaid Xiao, I am Ran Yan

Your lawful, wedded wife

The marriage agreement is still in my possession

 

0:43

After this feast I have a gift to present to my lady/my wife

 

This screen is not made of jade

It's all bones inside

It's dripping blood!

 

1:11

Lord Lu. I am the new Da Li Si officer, Su Fu

 

1:19

It's already late in the morning, this jade screen shows no change at all

She's just talking big

Lord Xiao, this young lady is lacking in skill. Why don't we change to another coroner?

I trust her. If she says it can be taken off (I think), it can definitely be taken off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I have watched the trailer, looks interesting, so it is a forensic and detective story yeah?  I have only watched one forensic drama Dr. Qin Medical Examiner, but it was modern drama, make me curious for this one!

 

I found Zhou JieSong really different with her usual makeup for K-Pop Ent. I have to adapt with this natural makeup. 

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1 hour ago, whome said:

 

Many thanks!

Welcome 

Need someone to continue translating the novel.  I would love to read the rest.

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6 hours ago, epinklyn said:

I have watched the trailer, looks interesting, so it is a forensic and detective story yeah?  I have only watched one forensic drama Dr. Qin Medical Examiner, but it was modern drama, make me curious for this one!

 

I found Zhou JieSong really different with her usual makeup for K-Pop Ent. I have to adapt with this natural makeup. 

 

Yup! It is a forensic pathology based crime show. If you can survive Dr Qin S1, this is pretty tame by comparison. ;)

It is a load of fun. The back and forth between the leads is pretty entertaining but the three cases already featured are really well-constructed.

There is also a love triangle at play here. Not sure if that will put you off. :P But it's actually quite well done.

 

@graceeedwardmom

Anton from Asian Drama News has done a quick recap on the first two episodes if it helps you.

 

 

 

 

 I copied this from the UTP thread because I wanted to respond to it. I didn't think it was right to post this on the UTP thread with thoughts about Miss Truth.

 

10 hours ago, angelangie said:

 

actually i prefer the male lead than the 2nd one....to me the male lead made his intention very much visible to the FL from the beginning while the  fiance is actually hiding something lols

 

Looking at the initial reactions so far I wonder why not more people actually come to that conclusion. ;) I notice that there are so many who root for the 2ML. Which is fine. We all have our preferences. But I often wonder why... Is a romance just about a hot male coming to the female lead's rescue? Is it because he is sweet to her? The question for me is... how much of him does she really know to actually make an informed choice? In fact, how much of the two men does she know and understand to make the right choice? To me the answer is obvious.

 

Sure, Su Fu is probably in love with her and does come to her rescue when needed but it doesn't take away from the fact that he is using her as well. What's more he is using her to provoke XIao Song to act impetuously. Xiao Song is also using her but as you point out, he is absolutely clear and open about it. At least she knows where he stands. She has something he wants, he has something she wants. They are constantly negotiating... which is just entertaining stuff. However on a more serious side, they are learning to define their relationship as it evolves. She has earned his trust and respect while he has to earn hers. I agree that he does use a bit of sleight of hand but that's because he's a political animal. He is a court official dealing with much bigger issues, it's become a default position. It doesn't take away from the fact that he's smart and is darn good at his job.

 

To me the love triangle works because it is integrated into her development as well as his. Ran Yan's infatuation of SF is based on some known facts. But she should have noticed the red flags when Bai Yi told her that it was XS that asked SF to save her. But SF conveniently left that bit of information out. Why? Because it suits him to keep certain things from her. Of course all these little prevarications will come back to bite him because her feelings for him are sincere.

 

They will also come back to bite him because she is a morally rigid person. She constantly pontificates about XS's moral and ethical flaws. And on some level, rightly so. Moreover, she's been lied to about her mother's death. She's been forced to accept a verdict of her mother's death she's never accepted. She's lived with deception and has hated it. Think about her big fight with her father. What's going to happen if she finds out that SF had ulterior motives in getting close to her? The trust will be undermined in one fell swoop. Not only does RY not know SF well enough, SF doesn't know RY well enough either.

 

For RY, the love triangle is key because she learns ultimately that what you see is not necessarily what you get. This is the journey of a detective as well. Clues are just bits of information but they still need to be put together in a consistent way for it to make sense overall. Like pieces of a puzzle. That is life as well. Everyone has an agenda or a mission that may or may not intersect with yours. To put it crudely, one needs to find people in life who can work with you and have compatible goals as well. 

Romance isn't all about sweetness and feelings because when you end up with someone, you have to be able to talk about something and not just subsist on heart races and sweet nothings.

 

This is why I find the show so so good.

 

 

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Glad I found this thread... I've been also wondering if the XS (male lead) will get RY (female lead) as well? They look really great together... Aside from that, XS genuinely cares and looks for RY each time. Didn't he already confess (kind of) in the room with her? Oof.

 

I feel that SF has a hidden intention to win RY on his side so that he has a bargaining chip when he fights XS. SF has a hidden agenda for a special organization and it's quite obvious he's getting to RY for a reason.

 

I'm just VERY curious to see if XS gets the female lead... 

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12 hours ago, xprosperity said:

 

I'm just VERY curious to see if XS gets the female lead... 

 

I'd be interested to see how that plays out too... ;) although it isn't the primary reason for my watching it.

It's a C drama so it's always hard to say how the show will end period. :D 

But it will be the cherry on top if he does end up with the female lead. 

It's obvious from a storytelling perspective that their relationship is the far more interesting one. From that I mean that there is a lot more going on between them than the surface level stuff.

 

I believe he did confess to her in Episode 11 but then he retracted it because he realised that she probably wasn't ready to hear it there and then. Despite the fact that she has some feelings for him too, she can't see past her "prejudices" because he isn't her idea of a romantic suitor in any shape or form. She can't identify her own feelings because in her mind he is the Merman Xiao.

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9 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

 

I'd be interested to see how that plays out too... ;) although it isn't the primary reason for my watching it.

It's a C drama so it's always hard to say how the show will end period. :D 

But it will be the cherry on top if he does end up with the female lead. 

It's obvious from a storytelling perspective that their relationship is the far more interesting one. From that I mean that there is a lot more going on between them than the surface level stuff.

 

I believe he did confess to her in Episode 11 but then he retracted it because he realised that she probably wasn't ready to hear it there and then. Despite the fact that she has some feelings for him too, she can't see past her "prejudices" because he isn't her idea of a romantic suitor in any shape or form. She can't identify her own feelings because in her mind he is the Merman Xiao.

Glad you're here and that we meet again after having some bittersweet Chocolate!

 

Loved your insight as always- I am definitely watching it for all of those searches and adventures related to this "pearl" that they're looking for. I find it a mystery why (and who) someone in the palace (aside from the emperor) is looking for this pearl, and why this pearl is exactly as important as it is (and where is it ultimately?)

 

It would ABSOLUTELY be cherry on top if they end up together (the ML and FL), I'm looking forward to that part of it too. I last saw the second ML in The Legend of the White Snake (2019 version) and now I keep seeing him as Fa Hai the monk... 

 

The confession from XS was most definitely real and he meant it but I agree, he knows that that wasn't the best timing to tell YR how he felt and plus, with the ways that YR has been feeling toward SF, YR wouldn't have reciprocated anyway! I do hope that maybe in the future, XS will have another chance to confess and YR will accept. A load of fans on YouTube have said that they prefer YR and SF together but people on Weibo are leaning toward YR and XS (I think?). What do folks think here?

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4 hours ago, xprosperity said:

 

 

Loved your insight as always- I am definitely watching it for all of those searches and adventures related to this "pearl" that they're looking for. I find it a mystery why (and who) someone in the palace (aside from the emperor) is looking for this pearl, and why this pearl is exactly as important as it is (and where is it ultimately?)

 

 

As far as I understand it, this pearl probably used to belong to a Marquis Shui. The pearl is apparently the key to a treasure which presumably means loads of money to interested parties. Su Fu's handler (woman in black) seems to be tasked with finding it because it means that the money from that can be used to raise an army to overthrow the present regime. So there are huge national ramifications if the pearl falls into the wrong hands.

(Someone can correct me if I'm wrong about this)

 

 

 

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Short interview with Zhou Jieqiong, star of Miss Truth

 

 

Hello everyone, I'm ZJQ

 

(segment from the trailer)

 

Asked to introduce character from Miss Truth

0:23

On this occasion, my character in Miss Truth (Tang Dynasty Female Medical Examiner)is an 18-year-old female coroner called Ran Yan. Her personality is more lively, tomboyish, bold and decisive in action. Also she's a bit rebellious.

 

0:33

She's been very intelligent from young. I think this character's personality is a little similar... not just a little but very similar to mine.

 

Asked how she felt when she was offered the role

0:50

When I was given the script, I did feel some pressure. However looking at the script carefully, I discovered that she was someone that could move me.

So as far as I'm concerned, it's the first role in my life so I am very privileged to be able to portray her. Not portray her but become her.

 

Asked to rate the drama

1:17

I can't say this for certain because I feel that whether it's good should be decided by everyone. Everyone who sees it should rate it.

 

Asked about hair stuff

I'm rather satisfied because previously in life my life I haven't had to tie up my hair much for fear of inconvenience. 

So as far as I'm concerned, it's a bigger transformation because my hair is combed everyday, (I'm) relaxed and carefree. After work I'd go home and let down my hair, realising that having long hair is troublesome. I got used to tying up my hair.

 

About working with Toby Lee for the first time

1:48

At the start I was rather worried because it was my first time acting. I didn't want to drag others down so I was especially worried and I was also treading carefully. I discovered later that he was very willing to talk about performance stuff, pass on his experience.

In the beginning I didn't quite get what he was trying to say but gradually after filming for a long time, after interacting with him, I discovered that what he said was particularly useful. Right. I'm particularly grateful to him.

 

How she became closer to Toby Lee?

2:33

At the start after we sent text messages, we used our respective character names to address each other. I call him Merman and he calls me Fox.

It felt kind of like... a bit awkward and yet not an awkward kind of relationship.

 

2:49

I'm not a slowburn type of person. I'm an enthusiastic person. From young I've been an especially active person. Also those around me are high energy too. We get along well.

So I think that our cast of our production are all enthusiastic (people).

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