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I am not a usual fan of saeguk dramas because it is always more about scheming and politics, the plot for power.  I was more of a romance fan......but now it seems I’m switching over!  I love this drama, the storyline is so interesting!!   Very good writing and acting, am really enjoying it!

 

some people mentioned that YJ was excluded.....but her accident was sudden, so I think it couldn’t be helped.  Hopefully she’ll be able to return soon, and it’ll all be good!

 

Yi Tan and Yoon Young are birds of a feather that stick together!  Yoon Young has just as much a lust for power as Yi Tan, and ultimately, she will go down with him! His methods of trying to take Yi Geum down are very underhanded.....despicable!

 

Can anyone tell me why these royal characters have multiple names? Yeoning, Yi Geum, and ? I forget the third name, is one and the same person? Why do they have so many names, and when do you call them what???  If you just walk into the story, it can be very confusing!!!

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7 hours ago, auntyem said:

I am not a usual fan of saeguk dramas because it is always more about scheming and politics, the plot for power.  I was more of a romance fan......but now it seems I’m switching over!  I love this drama, the storyline is so interesting!!   Very good writing and acting, am really enjoying it!

 

Welcome to Haechi world!!! I agree this is really really good Sageuk that's why even though my heart is aching not seeing YJ in the climactic events, I can't just let go. :wub::sweatingbullets:

 

7 hours ago, auntyem said:

 

Can anyone tell me why these royal characters have multiple names? Yeoning, Yi Geum, and ? I forget the third name, is one and the same person? Why do they have so many names, and when do you call them what???  If you just walk into the story, it can be very confusing!!!

I think this is already explained here by @gerrytan8063 just can't find....

 

As I remember, Yeoning is his given name. Yi Geum (sometimes spelled Lee Geum) is his royal name...  And Yeongjo his posthumous name as a king. Let's wait for our historian here to correct me if I have mistakes. 

 

Keep sharing your thoughts here. I love to read everyone's comments and reviews about Haechi. When I'm delayed to watch I read first here to spoil my self. LOL

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@yoo1 @auntyem

 

"Can anyone tell me why these royal characters have multiple names? Yeoning, Yi Geum, and ? I forget the third name, is one and the same person? Why do they have so many names, and when do you call them what???  If you just walk into the story, it can be very confusing!!!"

 

The third name & at present moment Yi Geum is address by his title as Crown Prince (Seje Jeoha 세제저하, 世弟邸下, Heir apparent Brother) 

 

"I think this is already explained here......just can't find....

 

I wrote on the subject in page 15

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@yoo1 Actually i'm pretty sure his given name is Geum and later given the name Yeoning. It was like that in the drama Dong Yi which centers around his mother and father. @gerrytan8063 Confirmed it on page 15.

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@Lunkera @auntyem @gerrytan8063

2 hours ago, Lunkera said:

Actually i'm pretty sure his given name is Geum

 

yes, thanks. That's why I am not sure if there is mistake. I interchange this my bad! 

 

to make it clear: 

 

birth name: Yi Geum

prince name: Yeoning

posthumous name: Yeongjo

 

Address: Seje joha, if heir brother of the king, and seja joha if the crown prince is the son of king. [open to correction]

 

 

 

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@gerrytan8063, Thank You for all your answers, I went back to the pages you referred to, to read your posts about the historical facts.  I wasn’t much of a history buff until recently, so I admire you for your knowledge!  It really helps to know the history to understand this drama.  Never thought I’d get into the political intrigue!  

 

I am suggesting to my husband that he watch this.....he usually watches Japanese dramas, and usually about the samurai.  He also likes Game of Thrones......so I think Haechi is up there in caliber, right?  Maybe even better!  At least Haechi doesn’t show all the sleeping around that goes on.....which is good, I don’t need to see that.  

 

 

 

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@auntyem

 

"I am suggesting to my husband that he watch this.....he usually watches Japanese dramas, and usually about the samurai.  "

 

If your husband likes drama e.g. NHK Taiga Japanese dramas then I can recommend some Korean drama titles that have a similar flavour.

 

Try Jingbirok, Memoir of Imjin War (징비록 , 懲毖錄) - KBS 2015 - 50 episodes (70 mins), if he is similar with Japanese Sengoku period history (1467-1607) then he may enjoy this drama 

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Some pictures

 

 
 

 

Credit to the owner

 

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History lesson

 

There are 2 type of petition that you can render in historical drama, the first that I have mentioned in previous post 

 

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"Seok Go Dae Joe (석고대죄, 席藁待罪) 

 

The other is in Episode 5 where there was a scholar who brought an axe & petition Gyeongjong to restore Jang Hui Bin's honour as she is the birth mother of the reigning King (Gyeongjong)

 

In 1722, Gyeongjong posthumous bestowed his mother "Lady Oksan, Great Concubine of the Palace; Prefectural Great Concubine of the Indong Jang clan" (대빈궁옥산부대빈장씨 大嬪宮玉山府大嬪張氏) 

 

As history have it.....Yeongjo enshrine his mother memorial tablet in Yuksanggung (毓祥宮) shrine (in 1725, it was originally known as Sukbinmyo (淑嬪廟) then in 1744 it was rename as Yuksangmyo (毓祥廟) but in 1753 Yeongjo renamed to its present name). In 1882, the shrine was burnt down & Gojong rebuilt it the next year. In 1908, Gojong decided to bring the other 6 Consorts whose son became King into Yuksanggung & renamed the shrines complex as Chilgung, therefore it became that Choi Suk Bin & Jang Hui Bin's (大嬪宮) shrines became neighbours

 

Chilgung is open to the public on the 4th Monday of October every year where there is a grand memorial ritual done to commemorate the shrines

 

Back to the subject.....

 

The petition is known as  Ji Bu Sang So (지부상소, 持斧上疏). It is a great piece of dramatic tool or prop to state your case. This is a form of protest or petition to the King that if their grievances are not address, then they will use the axe to cut their heads off as a sign of protest..taking their own lives to readdress their grievances, although I doubt that they actually take their lives with the axe if their demands are not met

 

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Prince Neungyang (능양도정, 綾陽都正 later Injo) in the drama Hwajung

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Some BTS :D

 

The prince who enjoys doing chores

 

 

 

For those who are missing Yeo Ji/ Go Ara

 

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I'm ready for Yi Tan to be executed for treason.

Will we get to see it soon? :D

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I love the scenes between YG and MJH. 

YG always takes something away from those conversations,

that makes  him stronger.

This lead actor wears the crown prince clothes in a very model like way. :)

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Another article:

 

 

 

Credit to the owner

 

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@mrsj3n

 

"I'm ready for Yi Tan to be executed for treason.....Will we get to see it soon?

 

Yeongjo telling Prince Milpunggun that he will killed him.....

 

History lesson

 

Prince Milpunggun Yi Tan (밀풍군 이탄 密豊君 李坦 1688-1729). He revolt against Yeongjo in his 4th year of reign in 1728 under the Soron faction known as Yi In Jwa Revolt (이인좌의난, 李麟佐之亂) who place Prince Milpung gun on the throne but failed in the attempt, as it lasted 4 days.

 

Prince Milpung gun was executed the next year in 1729 & strip of his title. Gojong in 1864 reinstated his princedom. But then his 5 sons survive

 

Meanwhile Prince Yeon Ryeong Gun  Yi Hwon (연령군 이훤, 延齡君 李昍 1699 -1719) died childless, although he was married in 1707. Prince Milpunggun's 2nd son Prince Sang Wong Gun Yi Gong (상원군 이공 商原君 李糼 1715-1733, before adoption his given name was Yi Jin Seok, 이진석 李晉錫) was posthumous adopted to him as a son in 1727. But he too died childless & Yeongjo found another Royal Relative continue his brother lineage

 

The story didn't end then.....as the apple don't fall far from the tree, in 1755, Prince Milpunggun's 4th Yi Gyeom Seok (이겸석, 李謙錫 1719-1755) & 5th son Yi Ik Seok (이익석, 李益錫 1725-1755) stirred political trouble over Prince Milpunggun treasonous case & was executed. Prince Milpunggung's descendants continue from his 3rd son Yi Hang Seok ( 이항석 李恒錫 1716-1744). If the other sons had survive they too would have been in the execution list

 

 

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Prince Milpunggun's tomb (밀풍군 이탄, 密豐君 李坦 묘墓)

 

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According to the tombstone, he is buried with his wives

 

It looks like Cheon Yun Yeong is not a historical figure

 

Principal wife  - Cheong Pung Kim clan (郡夫人清風金氏 ,군부인 청풍김씨 1687-1704) died childless, his children comes from his 2nd Principal wife  Im Cheon Jo clan (郡夫人林川趙氏 , 군부인 임천조씨 1688-1735). His eldest son Yi Gwan Seok (이관석, 李觀錫 1708-1750).

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Okay, I need to catch up on last week's episodes :D. Didn't have time to watch Haechi last week -_-.

 

Anyways, here's a new released BTS :tounge_xd:.

 

 

Btw, do we have any news about Go Ara? I wonder if she's already filming again, because she should be back by episode 33.

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4 hours ago, gerrytan8063 said:

The above "Making Film"'it seems Go Ara is support herself with crutch from 00:18

I wouldn't have noticed it if you didn't point it out. Maybe that's why they let her rest because they can't shoot her full body with a crutch. Hope she's fully recovered now.

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Great opening scene with min's monologue. moon soo mentions yeo ji briefly, that she's currently tracking down wi byung joo's case. Such a shame about yoon young that she chose the dark side instead of a better path with dal moon. Felt a pang of sadness for wi byung joo with the scenes of his past, how he suffered as a namin to get to the top. Also feel sorry for gyeongjong (again...)- his mother pretty much set him up for failure. He may not have been naturally cut out to be a king either way, but jang hee bin sure didn't help. 

And that scene where yi geum showed up to help moon soo- epic. Love a good bow and arrow scene (hi, jumong). That look of betrayal from yoon young was quite ironic, since she betrayed dal moon first way back. Also kinda hurt to see dal moon clearly still care about her and want her to at least stay alive, despite everything. Why girl, why???

Man, so much has happened, and while we have less than a month left, there's still 9 1-hr episodes to go! Can't wait until tomorrow's episode.  

 

Also- love that we don't have stupid protagonists. And looking forward to seeing yeo ji next week! 

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Episode 15

 

Gyeongjong as Jang Hui Bin's son & Yi Geum as Choi Suk Bin's son play a pivotal moment in Min Jin Heon siding with Yi Geum in defence

 

Min Jin Heon is said to be the younger brother of Queen Inhyeon but in history, Queen Inhyeon only have older brothers

 

Min Jin Heon & his family suffered consequences after Queen Inhyeon was depose

 

Queen Inhyeon was deposed by Jang Hui Bin in 1688 & Choi Suk Bin play a pivotal role in restoring Queen Inhyeon's Queenship in 1694 & also the death of Jang Hui Bin in 1701

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