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[Drama 2019] Love in Sadness, 슬플 때 사랑한다

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On 3/31/2019 at 1:27 PM, juli® said:
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Guys, let's talk about JHR / KIW. I think she was attracted to KIW because she came from a rejection and wants to be cared for someone. So here comes KIW, who is desperately searching for her own wife, I think she was envious of his dedication and would like to be in YMR's place, for she has no idea how violent and terrifying he is. What do you think?

 

I loved the scene of KIW, the stepmother and, especially, the father. I loved what KIW said to his stepmother. I mean, she was his father's secretary in the company and as soon as KIW's mother died, she jumped into Kang In-Gook's bed. Imagine how KIW felt. The father did not even respect the death of his wife. 

 

Did Kang In-Gook really hit the KIW in front of everyone, including the employees?

 

Hi Eveyone I'm loving this drama , I went back , Maybe I'm wrong its just a guess , But someone gets shot. I know who it is , But my  mouth is zipped I don't want to spoil it for everybody. If this is  a

Peek into the ending it looks pretty bad.

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16 hours ago, zenya22 said:

@juli® here you go...., my thoughts and many may not agree... read below  

 

Re-watched the episodes and yeah, skipped over some parts. What stands for me is episode 21 the IW/HR scenes very well done by RSY and WBN... perfectly

 

There are certain things I don't like in He Ra such as her "undying obsessive love" for JW, so that she does and says things she should not have said or done to hurt JW and the women he cares about, but as the episodes move forward, I find myself liking parts of her, as in her practicality, her directness and loyalty. I actually think that at one point her loyalty, protectiveness and caring will transfer to IW without compromising her protectiveness for JW. In their encounter at her house,  HR was able to connect to the sensitive and vulnerable parts of IW. She was trying to manipulate and seduce him yet what she said actually touched IW's painful memories because she also was sincerely describing about herself, that her parents died early and she never got to know or feel her parents love and she also knew the bitter feelings of rejection, from a man she loved for so very long who never even looked her way. His facial expression changed into the face of a wounded man as he allowed HR to touch his hair and then stopped her by holding her hand and yet she continued to touch his chest as she said, "I know how that feels" and tears ran down IW's cheeks. For the first time we see a crack in IW's armor and a peek at his tender spots. For one moment he was not the angry desperately obsessive man but the hurt little boy helplessly looking at his mother being beaten by his father. I am glad he stopped the kiss. He Ra seems to understand this vulenerable side of him even though she does not know anything about his personal life except that he is obsessed with his wife. However, she also empathizes with what hurts him because she also is going through the pain of rejection. I hope that He Ra will come to understand and see IW as a friend who needs  help and will be the one to rescue him from death and from himself which will also become her redemption and his. I really hope she will turn from a mantis to the flower she described herself as. I would not mind if this K version will tweak the ending and IW and HR will become friends to more than...They can both go together for therapy :heartbreak:

 

The other scene that got my attention was the encounter between IW and the stepmother and IW and his father. Now, we learn that the stepmother was a secretary who became the conniving mistress of IW's dad. I am deducing here that the stepmother had something to do with beating/punishment of IW's mother. That her "running away" may just be what the chairman believes but not necessarily true. That as a secretary, that stepmother may have known that the chairman was very possesive of his wife and she spread rumors which she knows will reach the chairman's ears and therefore result in the beating of IW's mom. She may even have created scenarios where IW's mom was caught by the chairman talking to a man which could have been an innocent encounter, yet totally misunderstood by possesive husband. Just from what she said about hearing rumors about IW's wife leaving him, I think she did the same with IW's mom. I am glad IW put her in her place. What was interesting was the father telling IW that he was not going to tremble in fear and be guilty seeing the face of his dead wife in the wife of his son. Yet, his reactions to Ma Ri was very telling that he was bothered when he attacks Ma Ri whenever he can and blames IW's softness and naivety on Ma Ri. He also said "your wife left you to be in the arms of another man" .... I think he was describing himself, that he probably accused IW's mom of running away to be with another man and also it grates him that his wife would rather kill herself than be with him. IW's face showed defiance and anger but also hurt. When he was in the car his driver/guard/secy asked him how his hand was and his answer "at least you see this". Man.... IW needs love and therapy ASAP. And MR and JW are more in danger now that the father is involving himself in IW's personal business. He wants the gallery investigated. The gallery is in the name of JW and HK but HR runs it and dumb MR is posing as HK. Dad also was clenching his fist and we see the hand blanched with some bluish spots. I think, maybe he will have a stroke. He has high blood pressure.

 

Any how this Ma Ri is so opposite the first Ma Ri, where did that resiliency and grit go? The first Ma Ri knew what she wanted and definite about her hopes and dreams and was not afraid to tell IW about it. The first Ma Ri (PHN) in their argument where IW told her that she could have everything and anything she wanted but just stay by his side always and paint inside her studio in his mansion as he embraced her. Ma Ri pushed him away as she tried to explain that is not what she wanted, that IW was suffocating her and she needs to breathe. She tried to explain that she needs to live as her own person and wants to contibute to the world with her artwork. He said he was protecting her. Ma Ri said she did not need his protection but was unable to articulate that what she needed was the support of her husband to his wife Ma Ri because IW was then getting angry specially when she pushed him away and instead mentioned that she was not IW's mom and that escalated into a beating. But many times MR tried to explain what she wanted even after that. This 2nd Ma Ri even after she realized that she looked exactly like JW's  wife because he created his wife's face on her and many times called her Ha Kyung. She left an obsessive husband who wanted to "protect" her because he thought she was fragile like his mother and beat her if she bucked that "protection" and she goes into another relationship who also thinks he needs his protection because she was like a "fragile bird" and mistakes her for his wife everytime he goes into an emotional remembrance of his wife and calls MR ... Ha Kyung. I would have thought that after that breakdown when JW was shaking her and asking "why did you do this to me Ha Kyung" that MR would have been the one to leave the house quietly. Her being there would have felt an intrusion, that she was a third wheel. 12JW needed space to grieve and express his anger and regrets. I think that would have been what the first Ma Ri would have done. Instead she waits for him to tell her to move out and then like a "hurt" child, she runs outside in the storm which awakens JW from his shocked stupor and runs after her in the rain removing his shoes...play the violins??? really??? Sure JW can start over but before that he needs time to get over his dead wife...what happens when in their passionate times of intimacy he suddenly calls MR, "Ha Kyung"... so give him time to grieve, and MR needs to plan how elude and thwart IW or have a face off with him and win. JW and MR need some therapy too. People in this drama can give good business to some psych therapist :lol:

12 I agree with everything you said, and I add, the "new" YMR doesn't have the same sophistication as the YMR from the time when her lived with KIW. And this YMR is weak, frightened ... This behavior is not justified, when she lived with KIW, she had more courage.

 

13 I think there's no way SJW can start over again with this YMR because she has WHK's face. What he felt for his wife was too strong to be forgotten, she will always be his shadow.

1 hour ago, Doloris B said:

Hi Eveyone I'm loving this drama , I went back , Maybe I'm wrong its just a guess , But someone gets shot. I know who it is , But my  mouth is zipped I don't want to spoil it for everybody. If this is  a

Peek into the ending it looks pretty bad.

What do you mean, you know? How? When? 

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@Doloris B KIW is shot and dies. We have all seen this in first ep. 

 

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3 hours ago, juli® said:

@zenya22 I don't think he's going to kill YMR because it would not make sense since she's his obsession, he's dependent on her. But to be honest, I think he's really going to die in the end.

Obsessive/abusive people's thoughts are not reasonable, and don't make sense,  it is twisted it is more in line with "if I can't have you, no one else can" and realistically as per study done worldwide, 85% of those who try to leave their abusive/obsessive partners die and most are women. And you say "but this is not real" ... sure this is drama but the way it is written, interpreted by actors and presented by the PD is realistic. You think that you know the ending that IW dies but you don't know that, no one knows how the drama will end because only the drama makers know

 

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Hi Eveyone I'm loving this drama , I went back , Maybe I'm wrong its just a guess , But someone gets shot. I know who it is , But my  mouth is zipped I don't want to spoil it for everybody. If this is  a

Peek into the ending it looks pretty bad.

@Doloris B

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 I think pretty much that everyone already guessed who got shot but I think it is a peek to the beginning of the end and not the end, end. I think from there the suspense,thriller gets more intense

 

 

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On 4/2/2019 at 2:46 PM, zenya22 said:

Obsessive/abusive people's thoughts are not reasonable, and don't make sense,  it is twisted it is more in line with "if I can't have you, no one else can" and realistically as per study done worldwide, 85% of those who try to leave their abusive/obsessive partners die and most are women. And you say "but this is not real" ... sure this is drama but the way it is written, interpreted by actors and presented by the PD is realistic. You think that you know the ending that IW dies but you don't know that, you just think you know, no one knows how the drama will end. Now that I think about it, the ending or the original version is more appropriate. 

@zenya22 I didn't see the original, nor do I know anything about it. True, I don't know if KIW dies in the end, but I'm evaluating that he dies. That scene doesn't get out of my head every time I think in the end.

 

I really like reading your reviews, and I don't care if they're long, I really enjoyed it. Thank you!

 

On 4/2/2019 at 5:55 AM, zenya22 said:

Actually, his violence towards MR will worsen, he said, "I will  kill them both." he did not say, "I will kill him". My tweaked version of the ending for KIW actually is much more compassionate ending for KIW compared to the ending of the original. His "weakness is  Ma Ri" is blaming Ma Ri for KIW's obsessive behavior but instead to state that KIW's weakness is his "obssesive behavior" puts the responsibility right smack where it belongs, on KIW and when he realizes that he is responsible for his behavior, will be the start of his desire to change in my opinion. 

I think he's going to kill YMR if he finds out that she and SJW had a romantic engagement. For now, they are only in the "almost".

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The 1st , KIW was shoot ! because the black guy with white car seems drunk … going up 1st, and the guy with the black car just arriving !! may be SJW ,we don't know yet who shoot ?

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2 hours ago, juli® said:

@zenya22 I didn't see the original, nor do I know anything about it. True, I don't know if KIW dies in the end, but I'm evaluating that he dies. That scene doesn't get out of my head every time I think in the end.

 

I really like reading your reviews, and I don't care if they're long, I really enjoyed it. Thank you!

 

I think he's going to kill YMR if he finds out that they've had a romantic engagement. For now, they are only in the "almost".

Which ever way I figure it , I cant see a happy ending in this drama.

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For me it will be very difficult to see this couple, I don't buy this romance, I think very weird. They just doesn't convince me. :triumph:

 

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On 4/1/2019 at 4:12 AM, bebebisous33 said:

Finally, the writer used the aspect of jealousy in both stories which explains why he made a mistake with the name because he mixed Roman tradition with Greek mythology. And now, if we take a close look, we will notice that our main characters (KIW, YMR, WHK and SJW) share the same experience. YMR fakes her death in order to escape from her abusive husband, WHK got involved in an accident and got killed which affected her husband SJW a lot. SJW gave YMR his wife’s face which could be compared to the gesture of the god: SJW created a flower, just like Aphrodite and Apollo did. On the other hand, KIW has not created anything yet, he is still living in his memories: he has distorted version of his marriage with YMR. Maybe, the beholder should perceive KIW as the jealous person and not the lover, if we had to compare him to characters from the legends as he is really jealous. YMR loved painting more than anything and he knew that, hence he allowed her to paint but only at her studio and she was not allowed to show any creation to others. Concerning WHK, SJW and doctor Ha, the latter embodies definitely the jealous one who destroyed WHK in the end due to his jealousy and negligence. As conclusion, we understand better why this drama was called love in sadness because all these legends and our drama deal with tragic love, death, pain and sadness.

@bebebisous33 sorry for cutting your post, very well told and insightful interpretation, thank you. 

 

I  am thinking, my pov, that the writer intentionally mixed the the Greek/Roman legends because he/she was telling the stories as per JW's slant of the stories based on JW's mindset or perception. It was JW who narrated this stories to himself (the hyacinth story) and to YMR, the anemone story. In the hyacinth story, there were also two versions, that Apollo threw the discus and his lover got hit accidentally, the 2nd version had the jealous god of wind blow the discus on the poor mortal lover of Apollo. This was the version that SJW narrated to himself. In the anemone story, SJW's narration again pointed to a jealous god of war Ares who made himself into a boar and gored the lover of Venus to death out of jealousy. JW holds a lot of guilt and blames himself for not communicating with his wife, for not directly confronting her and for not stopping his wife from going to that fateful trip to Paris. Unlike the bee who buzzes his way with the flower, he is the butterfly, like you said, who gently taps the flower. He also communicates his feeling very indirectly and in a way that his wife does not understand. For instance, when he was helping WHK pack for her trip to Paris for a "business trip" and JW said, "I am jealous of Paris" and that went over HK's head like it would have on any other wife. She said, "how can you be jealous of the city Paris?" He was speaking Greek and she Korean. Here again, I think JW was talking about Paris who stole the beautiful Helen from her husband Menalaus, King of Sparta and Helen fell in love with Paris and eloped with him. While visiting the comatose wife, SJW reads to her the classics', Wuthering Heights and plays opera music in the background again whose stories are of love betrayal and heartbreak. He communicates indirectly and why he expresses guilt later while visiting HK's grave, "I should have asked who was on the phone with you, I should have stopped you from making that trip". He had wanted to start over with WHK. He went to that conference with the doctor who successfully revived a comatose patient. He wanted to revive his wife so he can undo the past. WHK chose to die on the day SJW returned to SK from the conference. On the day he buried his wife, JW again cried and blamed himself for not protecting his wife. On his way back from the burying his wife, he meets Ma Ri and made a fateful decision that would bring the wrath of the jealous gods to make havoc on himself and the woman whose face he changed into the face of his wife. 

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On 3/25/2019 at 10:44 PM, MidnightRain said:

I am really not impressed with current Ma-Ri's acting. Does she get any better? :huh:

I watched an interview of the actors in you tube of how they interpret their characters. As usual, the most befitting and relevant interpretation was by RSY and WBN. JHW's interpretation of his character was dispassionate and it shows while PHB's interpretation was way off. She said she was overwhelmed in the first reading of first part of the drama because IW did a lot of bad things to her character. She was not even in it. But it would have served her well to see the character or study how the first Ma Ri (PHN) interpreted the character then she said on the 2nd reading of the parts where she was in, she interpreted herself as being a "robot." ... SMH no wonder... girl it shows, it really shows 

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4 hours ago, zenya22 said:

I watched an interview of the actors in you tube of how they interpret their characters. As usual, the most befitting and relevant interpretation was by RSY and WBN. JHW's interpretation of his character was dispassionate and it shows while PHB's interpretation was way off. She said she was overwhelmed in the first reading of first part of the drama because IW did a lot of bad things to her character. She was not even in it. But it would have served her well to see the character or study how the first Ma Ri (PHN) interpreted the character then she said on the 2nd reading of the parts where she was in, she interpreted herself as being a "robot." ... SMH no wonder... girl it shows, it really shows 

@zenya22 It was in English? Link here, please! 

 

I even liked the interpretation of JHW, but I think it's the character who is boring.

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In DRAMA

[Love in Sadness] PILOT Eps 1-24, Ji Hyun Woo & Park Han Byul x Ryu Soo Young

Posted on Thursday, April 4, 2019

 
Article: Naver 'Love in Sadness' Park Ha Na, a special appearance.. Her great acting makes it a pity that it is [Eps 1-4]


1. [+157,-1]
Ryu Soo Young and Park Ha Na-ssi's acting are so goosebump-inducing. Respect. 

2. [+124,-4]
She'll exchange her role with Park Han Byul. ㅡㅡㅋㅋ


3. [+62,-2]
Please appear in another drama quickly. She's so pretty and her acting is good!!


4. [+36,-5]
This is so interesting. Park Han Byul in the preview.... ㅠ 


5. [+22,-0]
It's such a pity that Park Ha Na's just making a special appearance.. She has to change with Park Han Byul, right..?? 


6. [+19,-0]
I thought she was the female lead... but she's just making a special appearance... 


7. [+18,-0]
It's a role that needs skills to be able to express even the mildest emotions well. Park Ha Na did so well. I'm sure Park Han Byul feels the pressure. 


8. [+18,-2]
Both Ryu Soo Young and Park Ha Na acting so well yesterday.. It'd be good if the two are the leads. What a pity. 


9. [+16,-0]
Park Han Byul lacks charisma. No matter how bad her acting is, this is something even Kim Tae Hee can do. To be honest, I'm not even sure if she's pretty too. 


10. [+15,-0]
I hope Park Han Na gets a lead role the next time~~ Fighting.


 
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Article: Naver 'Love in Sadness' Park Ha Na  Park Han Byul appears, close face-offs[Eps 5-8]

1. [+562,-20]
Someone who is good at acting went to do plastic surgery and became someone who is bad at acting... 


2. [+321,-15]
Can't Park Ha Na come back?


3. [+167,-20]
The immersion went down so much suddenly~~ Guess she's reading a Korean textbook again. 


4. [+107,-19]
Why are kids like her coming out? Seriously. 


5. [+86,-3]
It'd be better if Park Han Byul makes a special appearance and Park Han Na is the female lead..... Sigh... A... miscast. 


6. [+73,-1]
Park Han Na even cut her own hair, but Park Han Byul even wore makeup when she was removing the bandage. I was surprised to see her lips red. 


7. [+67,-5]
They are going to use Park Han Byul for the rest of the 40 episodes? I miss Park Ha Na.. She's so pretty and her acting is good. 


8. [+56,-5]
Bring back Park Ha Na. Park Ha Na is better at acting and she is charismatic. That's why I was able to get immersed in the show, but you're putting Park Han Byul there? 


9. [+53,-4]
Ha..... The story is nice, I like Park Ha Na and Wang Bit Na.... But Park Han Byul just isn't it. She should have done a robot drama. Park Han Byul's acting is really bad and her expressions are the same. 


10. [+55,-8]
Her husband is going around committing crimes, but she's so brazenly appearing in a drama?



 
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Article: Naver 'Love in Sadness' Ryu Soo Young begins suspecting Ji Hyun Woo x Park Han Byul [Eps 9-12] 

1. [+35,-1]
Ryu Soo Young was so scary. 


2. [+26,-0]
My heart fluttered while there was tension. Ji Hyun Woo was so cool. 


3. [+29,-6]
If you sing the song 'I'm here', who wouldn't be able to find you? Ha.. 


4. [+21,-1]
The two actors' acting so handsome and cool. The drama is interesting. 


5. [+12,-0]
The acting is the same, it's so bad. They should've used Park Ha Na. Park Han Byul is frustrating. 


6. [+18,-7]
I miss Park Ha Na. 


7. [+11,-0]
Love you, Ji Hyun Woo-nim. 


 
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Article: Naver 'Love in Sadness' Wang Bit Na makes a dangerous proposal "Please meet Ryu Soo Young" [Eps 13-16]

1. [+99,-8]
She used to be someone who hasn't done a drama, then somehow became someone's girlfriend, and now she is a female lead. I thought it was strange. Looks like she has someone backing her up. 


2. [+71,-7]
Why is she so nasty? Does she not know that she's burdensome? She got married without even knowing what her husband is doing? She said he's doing business, right? She's been eating and living well because of that and now she claims she doesn't know, cosplaying as the victim. Disgusting. 


3. [+53,-5]
I was enjoying this show, but because of the scandal..... I don't want to watch it.... Am I the only one... 


4. [+17,-0]
Park Ha Na acted really well in the beginning, so it's such a pity now~ It makes me dislike watching this drama. 


5. [+13,-0]
She married a trash~~ Would he have uploaded his sex videos with his wife too? 


6. [+10,-0]
Why is Byul's husband keeping quiet? He's more trashy than Jung Jun Young and Seung Ri... 


7. [+6,-0]
Alright, let's forget about everything else. But Park Han Byul's acting is so bad.... I can't get immersed in it. 




 
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Article: Naver 'Love in Sadness' Ryu Soo Young trespasses Park Han Byul's house, fights with Ji Hyun Woo [Eps 16-20] 

1. [+547,-24]
Ryu Soo Young may be the villain, but he's a scene stealer and I get so absorbed in the drama because of him. I'm thankful that I could see such outstanding acting skills in the small screen~


2. [+380,-22]
Ji Hyun Woo is cool. If only I could live with a guy like him for just a day..


3. [+244,-13]
It may be acting, but Ryu Soo Young's role is goosebump-inducingly scary. I think it will be fine once Park Han Byul and Ji Hyun Woo live together... 


4. [+146,-13]
Ji Hyun Woo is so cool. 


5. [+127,-17]
I was wondering why is Park Han Byul's acting good this time, looks like it's because her life is similar to the character's situation. That's why she could get into character.. When she said, "It's my fault for picking the wrong husband too." while crying, the immersion wass daebak. 


6. [+78,-3]
This is kind of interesting. Ryu Soo Young-ssi obsessive acting gave me goosebumps. 


7. [+75,-0]
Why is Ryu Soo Young so good at acting as the villain? It's scary.


8. [+75,-3]
Ji Hyun Woo is cool. He matches his Seo Jung Won character so well. A man that's like watercolors. Gentle and strong. 


9. [+105,-40]
I was nervous the whole time. Ryu Soo Young-ssi, Park Han Byul-ssi, their acting seemed so real. 


 
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Article: Naver 'Love in Sadness' Ji Hyun Woo finds out about Park Han Byul and Go Ju Won's affair [Eps 21-24]

1. [+465,-26]
Is Park Han Byul still appearing? 


2. [+272,-10]
A drama that makes Ji Hyun Woo's acting go to waste. 
- [+19,-0]
I really think that Ji Hyun Woo doesn't have luck with his female leads. 


3. [+244,-6]
Alright, let's just make it that he doesn't want to see his wife's face who had committed adultery anymore and change her face once more... 


4. [+89,-9]
Ji Hyun Woo's acting is so good. 


5. [+67,-7]
Ji Hyun Woo is really sweet~~~ ♡


6. [+24,-4]
I get angry seeing Park Han Byul's face.. Ha.. I didn't watch the drama on purpose for that reason. Don't write articles of it. It stresses me out. 


7. [+16,-1]
I'm watching the rerun now, Ji Hyun Woo is so cool. To think I only found out about that now. The drama is fun~~


8. [+16,-1]
Ji Hyun Woo's acting is so good... 


9. [+26,-2]
The two were in the car together, but why did only Park Han Byul become a vegetarian, and Go Ju Won is alive? 


10. [+14,-0]
Ji Hyun Woo's acting is outstanding. He has suffered. I'd like to cheer for him. 

https://melohwa.blogspot.com/2019/04/love-in-sadness-pilot-eps-1-24-ji-hyun.html

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Love in Sadness: An analysis of Self-portraits

 

Striking is that in this drama, we can witness the birth of a painting. The beholder usually only gets to see the start or the end product but not a work in progress. Nevertheless, we saw here two paintings that were not finished and each time, the finished work revealed the real state of mind of our heroine YMR, as both creations were named as a self-portrait. The difference between the paintings underlined that something had happened to our painter. But now, let’s take a closer look to these paintings. The first “Self-Portrait” was used in the first episode.

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A cistus: episode 1 (the painting is unfinished, right after this taking, due to KIW’s remark, YMR gives the picture a name: ” A self-portrait”
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The painting “A self-portrait” is now finished. We learn here the meaning of the cistus: I’ll die tomorrow.

Looking at the first picture, we can observe two things:

  • the darkness of the picture: we see a dead wood, she even used a lot of black and brown
  • First, we have two flowers. Furthermore their white color contrast so much to the surrounding. Since the flowers are blossomed, they indicate that their withering is about to happen, especially due to the environment.

So since it is a self-portrait, it actually symbolizes her actual situation: she is in a terrible situation. Her husband is embodied by the dead wood, he can not bring her happiness and life, actually he is the reason why she is perishing. Her world is cold and she feels lonely. There is no light, so there is no hope. The choice of a white flower and the number of cistus caught my attention because in the episode 12, she said that the flowers represent her heart and tears. It looks like back then YMR had lost all her energy hence there are only two flowers. Due to her desperate situation, she can not even cry. She is withering like a flower… 
So the first version wasn’t just depressing because of the dark colors and the environment. Even the choice of the flower was pessimistic: I’ll die tomorrow. However, in the finale version, the beholder observes a huge difference: the flowers are burning. This indicates that not only her situation has even worsened but also her despair has increased. She is literally screaming for help and if no one can see this, then she will die. Moreover, the fire could be perceived as a final attempt from her part. She will leave her husband and if she doesn’t succeed, then she is even willing to die, to get burned. So she is well aware of her husband’s outburst, if she leaves him again.

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episode 10: 
The painting is called “A Self-Portrait Part Two” the first and unfinished version

In the second self-portrait, we also saw a first version (third picture above). Striking is the presence of wood, just like in the first self-portrait. Nevertheless, the wood is different. Here YMR used a table, unlike in the first painting where it looks more like a dead wood. Moreover, there is a presence of a human being in this picture due to the cup of tea and the letter envelope indicating that there is life in this picture. Finally, our painter chose to draw anemones in her painting. She even drew more anemones than cistus. Since the flower is red and the color red is associated to blood and life, I come to the conclusion that YMR’s state of mind has already changed. She has been brought back to life, since the painting is already oozing more life. The first version is still dark, although the beholder can see a ray of sunshine on the table. Yet the light is barely visible. Furthermore the message behind the anemone is “May I confess my love for you?” which illustrates that her heart has started beating again. She is no longer lifeless and loveless. Like she said to SJW, the flowers symbolizes her tears and heart. She can cry now. She has started caring for SJW. Due to the presence of wood in this self-portrait, we can come to the conclusion that YMR hasn’t been able to cut ties entirely with KIW, he is still affecting her life. The wood reveals that she is still suffering from a trauma.

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episode 11: “A Self-Portrait Part Two”, the final version

The final version mirrors the evolution of her mental health. It looks like the flowers are actually growing from the table. YMR is able to remove little by little her bad memories, recover these with new good memories. Notice that this time, the flowers are painted with green leaves indicating that the flowers are not cut or put on the table, they look as if they were really alive. Then the ray of sunshine is much more pronounced this time. The dark and gloomy atmosphere has entirely disappeared. There is now more hope. YMR is not back to her old self, yet she has changed a lot. She is alive, feeling many emotions. The presence of a living person is also more visible than in the first version. Now, we see a letter with a feather. It was as if YMR had just left the table. Since YMR is not able to paint herself, this shows how much YMR suffered under KIW. She had lost her identity and her own personality, yet this time, YMR has found the courage to show to the world that she exists with different items: the envelopes, the letter and the feather. Naturally, she has another reason now, not to draw her face, since she has received the face of WHK. This second self-portrait still outlines her identity loss but unlike in the first self-portrait, the beholder can realize that YMR is searching for her own identity. She is trying with all her might to find her own place that’s what the growing flowers are representing. The flowers are trying to find their place in that table, it looks like the flowers want to cover the table, a symbol for her attempt to forget her painful experience and memories. As conclusion, YMR is no longer pessimistic and desperate. She is alive, feeling many positive emotions and she is hoping that she can leave her past behind.

When YMR offered SJW her self-portrait, SJW could connect her painting to the famous painting of Frida Kahlo, a famous Mexican painter. Both characters were referring to that following picture, the wounded deer:

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Frida Kahlo: wounded deer, 1946

Back then, Frida Kahlo had just been surged on her spine but her surgery had not been successful. Unlike in YMR’s self-portraits, Frida used an animal in order to represent herself. However, the deer has her face. Notice how the surroundings can give us a clue about Frida Kahlo’s state of mind. The forest looks lifeless, the trees are leafless, even one tree has lost a branch which lies on the ground. The dead nature embodies broken body of the painter. Furthermore, the colors (brown and beige) give a gloomy and pessimistic impression. The sun is not visible, just like there is no wave in the sea. All these elements put together make the beholder feel that there is no life and no energy. Frida Kahlo is heartbroken and broken physically. Moreover, the painter used an unreal perspective for the wounded deer. It doesn’t look like it is standing on its feet, but it doesn’t look like it is lying on the ground either. In my opinion, Frida wants to underline how terrible her physical situation is: she is not really paralyzed but she can not move freely either. She can not rest in the end. The arrows symbolize the surgery and the pain in her spine due to the surgery as the arrows are situated all around her spine. As you can see, the deer mirrors Frida Kahlo’s situation and feelings as the deer has Frida’s face. The Mexican painter is feeling powerless and she is showing her pain and despair to the world through her painting. YMR is in a different situation as she has lost her identity, unlike Frida Kahlo, that’s why the flowers have no face at all or there is no human being represented among her flowers. However, I am expecting YMR to be capable to drew a third self-portrait later which will be similar to her first painting that KIW saw in the beginning.

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A woman holding a sword lily

We know that this week, YMR will leave SJW’s side as she will use WHK’s death to her advantage. By forcing SJW to declare WHK dead, KIW will be cornered. WHK was the only link to his wife’s whereabouts. For her, this departure will have a huge impact as she will be able to free herself completely from KIW.

@zenya22 @avondale16 @MidnightRain @ktcjdrama@lolly84

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Love in Sadness: An analysis of Self-portraits

 

Striking is that in this drama, we can witness the birth of a painting. The beholder usually only gets to see the start or the end product but not a work in progress. Nevertheless, we saw here two paintings that were not finished and each time, the finished work revealed the real state of mind of our heroine YMR, as both creations were named as a self-portrait. The difference between the paintings underlined that something had happened to our painter. But now, let’s take a closer look to these paintings. The first “Self-Portrait” was used in the first episode.

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A cistus: episode 1 (the painting is unfinished, right after this taking, due to KIW’s remark, YMR gives the picture a name: ” A self-portrait”
 The painting “A self-portrait” is now finished. We learn here the meaning of the cistus: I’ll die tomorrow.

Looking at the first picture, we can observe two things:

  • the darkness of the picture: we see a dead wood, she even used a lot of black and brown
  • First, we have two flowers. Furthermore their white color contrast so much to the surrounding. Since the flowers are blossomed, they indicate that their withering is about to happen, especially due to the environment.

So since it is a self-portrait, it actually symbolizes her actual situation: she is in a terrible situation. Her husband is embodied by the dead wood, he can not bring her happiness and life, actually he is the reason why she is perishing. Her world is cold and she feels lonely. There is no light, so there is no hope. The choice of a white flower and the number of cistus caught my attention because in the episode 12, she said that the flowers represent her heart and tears. It looks like back then YMR had lost all her energy hence there are only two flowers. Due to her desperate situation, she can not even cry. She is withering like a flower… 
So the first version wasn’t just depressing because of the dark colors and the environment. Even the choice of the flower was pessimistic: I’ll die tomorrow. However, in the finale version, the beholder observes a huge difference: the flowers are burning. This indicates that not only her situation has even worsened but also her despair has increased. She is literally screaming for help and if no one can see this, then she will die. Moreover, the fire could be perceived as a final attempt from her part. She will leave her husband and if she doesn’t succeed, then she is even willing to die, to get burned. So she is well aware of her husband’s outburst, if she leaves him again.

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episode 10: 
The painting is called “A Self-Portrait Part Two” the first and unfinished version

In the second self-portrait, we also saw a first version (third picture above). Striking is the presence of wood, just like in the first self-portrait. Nevertheless, the wood is different. Here YMR used a table, unlike in the first painting where it looks more like a dead wood. Moreover, there is a presence of a human being in this picture due to the cup of tea and the letter envelope indicating that there is life in this picture. Finally, our painter chose to draw anemones in her painting. She even drew more anemones than cistus. Since the flower is red and the color red is associated to blood and life, I come to the conclusion that YMR’s state of mind has already changed. She has been brought back to life, since the painting is already oozing more life. The first version is still dark, although the beholder can see a ray of sunshine on the table. Yet the light is barely visible. Furthermore the message behind the anemone is “May I confess my love for you?” which illustrates that her heart has started beating again. She is no longer lifeless and loveless. Like she said to SJW, the flowers symbolizes her tears and heart. She can cry now. She has started caring for SJW. Due to the presence of wood in this self-portrait, we can come to the conclusion that YMR hasn’t been able to cut ties entirely with KIW, he is still affecting her life. The wood reveals that she is still suffering from a trauma.

 
 episode 11: “A Self-Portrait Part Two”, the final version

The final version mirrors the evolution of her mental health. It looks like the flowers are actually growing from the table. YMR is able to remove little by little her bad memories, recover these with new good memories. Notice that this time, the flowers are painted with green leaves indicating that the flowers are not cut or put on the table, they look as if they were really alive. Then the ray of sunshine is much more pronounced this time. The dark and gloomy atmosphere has entirely disappeared. There is now more hope. YMR is not back to her old self, yet she has changed a lot. She is alive, feeling many emotions. The presence of a living person is also more visible than in the first version. Now, we see a letter with a feather. It was as if YMR had just left the table. Since YMR is not able to paint herself, this shows how much YMR suffered under KIW. She had lost her identity and her own personality, yet this time, YMR has found the courage to show to the world that she exists with different items: the envelopes, the letter and the feather. Naturally, she has another reason now, not to draw her face, since she has received the face of WHK. This second self-portrait still outlines her identity loss but unlike in the first self-portrait, the beholder can realize that YMR is searching for her own identity. She is trying with all her might to find her own place that’s what the growing flowers are representing. The flowers are trying to find their place in that table, it looks like the flowers want to cover the table, a symbol for her attempt to forget her painful experience and memories. As conclusion, YMR is no longer pessimistic and desperate. She is alive, feeling many positive emotions and she is hoping that she can leave her past behind.

When YMR offered SJW her self-portrait, SJW could connect her painting to the famous painting of Frida Kahlo, a famous Mexican painter. Both characters were referring to that following picture, the wounded deer:

 

 Frida Kahlo: wounded deer, 1946

 

Back then, Frida Kahlo had just been surged on her spine but her surgery had not been successful. Unlike in YMR’s self-portraits, Frida used an animal in order to represent herself. However, the deer has her face. Notice how the surroundings can give us a clue about Frida Kahlo’s state of mind. The forest looks lifeless, the trees are leafless, even one tree has lost a branch which lies on the ground. The dead nature embodies broken body of the painter. Furthermore, the colors (brown and beige) give a gloomy and pessimistic impression. The sun is not visible, just like there is no wave in the sea. All these elements put together make the beholder feel that there is no life and no energy. Frida Kahlo is heartbroken and broken physically. Moreover, the painter used an unreal perspective for the wounded deer. It doesn’t look like it is standing on its feet, but it doesn’t look like it is lying on the ground either. In my opinion, Frida wants to underline how terrible her physical situation is: she is not really paralyzed but she can not move freely either. She can not rest in the end. The arrows symbolize the surgery and the pain in her spine due to the surgery as the arrows are situated all around her spine. As you can see, the deer mirrors Frida Kahlo’s situation and feelings as the deer has Frida’s face. The Mexican painter is feeling powerless and she is showing her pain and despair to the world through her painting. YMR is in a different situation as she has lost her identity, unlike Frida Kahlo, that’s why the flowers have no face at all or there is no human being represented among her flowers. However, I am expecting YMR to be capable to drew a third self-portrait later which will be similar to her first painting that KIW saw in the beginning.

  Reveal hidden contents

 

A woman holding a sword lily

We know that this week, YMR will leave SJW’s side as she will use WHK’s death to her advantage. By forcing SJW to declare WHK dead, KIW will be cornered. WHK was the only link to his wife’s whereabouts. For her, this departure will have a huge impact as she will be able to free herself completely from KIW.

@zenya22 @avondale16 @MidnightRain @ktcjdrama@lolly84

Awesome review, very sensitive. :thumbsup:

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don't quote videos, gifs and pictures. Remove these next time please
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