[Drama 2019] Love in Sadness, 슬플 때 사랑한다

[juli®]

6 hours ago, zenya22 said:

Exactly, Hae Ra, jealous or not, did bring up very practical and important questions. It is spooky to come face to face with a woman who looks exactly like the face of the dead wife and the man not reporting that his wife is dead and did it on the day his wife died, whom he new was cheating on him. It makes one wonder if the re-construction of his wife's face on another woman was a way to re-live and re-invent the broken relationship he had into a relationship that he longed to have with his dead wife. In LMIH the professionalism of the surgeon became an issue and don't know if that will be explored in this drama which should be because the LMIH surgeon's intentions were transparent and clearer while the surgeon in this drama seems "confused'. 

 

Ma Ri already found out that life after plastic surgery did not miraculously get better especially when she lives not very far away from where her husband's life revolves in. I hope she questions the surgeon's intent in giving her his wife's face then learn more about the wife's history and makes it clear to JW that she is not his wife, that she is Yoon Mari. Maybe when JW realizes that she is the artist of the "Self Portrait" he will help her to express herself through her passion....painting. 

 

 

@juli® that is what we all want to know, how he will re act when he finally proves that Mari is now living with the face of Ha Kyung who was the wife of the surgeon. I can't imagine the rage of betrayal that he will feel and how vehement his reaction will be.

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The pool scene, not a dream and not the end either.....if they are going to folow the original 

 

 

 

 

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What is the pool scene, anyway? Is KIW who dying?

 

[bebebisous33]

16 minutes ago, juli® said:

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What is the pool scene, anyway? Is KIW who dying?

 

I have not watched the original Japanese movie. Yes, it looks like it based on different clues. First, KIW is driving a white car and the man arriving to that house was driving a white car. Secondly the body shape looks like KIW's body: broad shoulders... SJW is taller and thinner. 

[MidnightRain]

2 hours ago, juli® said:

I agree their personalities match. I think I'm more like HK, I prefer manliness to this exaggerated sensitivity. I didn't like of violence, of course.

Now, 5 years of marriage and how did they have no children? They had no sex life in common, did they? The drama does not make that clear.

 

Not sure which couple you're referring to, but Ha-Kyung was in a coma for the past 5 years while Ma-Ri did everything in her power to not get pregnant. She was emptying all those medicine drinks that were supposed to aid pregnancy or something down the drain. And In-Wook and Ma-Ri were definitely intimate because he was mad when she told him she didn't want any children with him after he caught her throwing away the medicine. 

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I don't know if it's In-Wook or the bodyguards that end up in the pool, but I'm sure it's not Jung-Won because he hears the shot when he's still outside. And I believe that it's Jung-Won that's outside because of his hair color, his is dyed reddish-brown while In-Wook has black hair.

[juli®]

58 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

I have not watched the original Japanese movie. Yes, it looks like it based on different clues. First, KIW is driving a white car and the man arriving to that house was driving a white car. Secondly the body shape looks like KIW's body: broad shoulders... SJW is taller and thinner. 

Yep, It has to be him... But who shoots him? Ma-Ri? Incidentally, KIW needs to cut his hair, it's very strange that way 

 

46 minutes ago, MidnightRain said:

 

Not sure which couple you're referring to, but Ha-Kyung was in a coma for the past 5 years while Ma-Ri did everything in her power to not get pregnant. She was emptying all those medicine drinks that were supposed to aid pregnancy or something down the drain. And In-Wook and Ma-Ri were definitely intimate because he was mad when she told him she didn't want any children with him after he caught her throwing away the medicine. 

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I don't know if it's In-Wook or the bodyguards that end up in the pool, but I'm sure it's not Jung-Won because he hears the shot when he's still outside. And I believe that it's Jung-Won that's outside because of his hair color, his is dyed reddish-brown while In-Wook has black hair.

 

I meaning SJW and YMR, I agree their match but I still don't like that couple...  Sorry, I can't avoid!   

 

I didn't think he was mad at her about pregnancy... And I also think they didn't have intimacy, he didn't even kiss her!  Or does he have trouble generating a child? OMG, if it's true, there's no sanity to resist! 

 

I think KIW should fire his bodyguards.  Every time the YMR wanted to escape, she succeeded.

[dukesa1122]

On 3/2/2019 at 9:26 AM, bebebisous33 said:

YMR is actually working on it, when her husband Kang In Wook enters her painting studio. He remarks that this painting and this flower resembles her a lot, hence she decides to title this picture “a self-portray”. Looking at the painting itself, the beholder observes two things:

• the darkness of the picture: we see a dead wood, she even used a lot of black and brown
• First, we have two flowers. Furthermore their white color contrast so much to the surrounding. Since the flowers are blossomed, they indicate that their withering is about to happen, especially due to the environment.

So since it is a self-portray, it actually symbolizes her actual situation: she is in a terrible situation. Her husband is embodied by the dead wood, he can not bring her happiness and life, actually he is the reason why she is perishing. Her world is cold and she feels lonely. There is no light, so there is no hope. If you look now at her painting studio, you’ll notice the disparity between this painting and the others hanging on the walls. All of them represent flowers but the choice of the color is totally different: a lot of green, red…. to conclude, she used bright colors in the past. So after being married for 5 years, this painting reveals her own mental state: she is depressed and desperate. But here is the question: why are there two flowers, if it is a self-portray?

Then in the same episode, shortly after, the director uses these takings Yoon Ma Ri looking out the window 

As you can notice, there are two Yoon Ma Ri, yet it looks like the second version is fading away, she is disappearing. And this is no coincidence. YMR is about to lose herself, her soul by remaining by her husband. She is not even allowed to choose her own clothes. She lives trapped in a cage hence the window with the bare reflects her actual position: she is a prisoner. She is not even allowed to paint outdoors which explains why her latest painting looks so gloomy and depressing. She can no longer paint as she has run out of energy and inspiration. So this explains why the second YMR is disappearing and why there are two flowers. The bigger one represents her own body, she is about to become a living corpse.

Striking is the finale version of her painting “a self-portray” is different.

 

In this scene, we learn that the meaning of the flower is “I will die tomorrow”.

So the first version wasn’t just depressing because of the dark colors and the environment. Even the choice of the flower was pessimistic. However, in the finale version, the beholder observes a huge difference: the flowers are burning. This indicates that not only her situation has even worsened but also her despair has increased. The moment she called it a self-portray, YMR revealed that she was actually waiting for her own death. In the finale version, the beholder is actually witnessing her death. Sure, she is announcing her death but it also shows that she even prefers burning than living in the dark for too long. This indicates that she is even willing to risk her life in order to escape from this misery. She will do anything, even if this means her death: the fire creates some light, it can even be seen by someone. So she is not giving up.      

As you can see, Love is Sadness is not different from Encounter as it uses a painting to give a message, illustrate a situation and the state of mind of a character.

Then in the same episode, we see the male protagonist, the plastic surgeon Seo Jung Woo, reading a page to his wife YH who is in a coma. The chosen book is Wuthering Height written by Emily Bronte in the 19th century, a tragic and painful love story. The protagonist Heathcliff loved Catherine, but the latter chose to marry someone else, Edgar Linton, as he came from a higher social status. Heathcliff had been raised in Catherine’s family. Due to her rejection, Heathcliff decided to get revenge on her and Edgar Linton. Interesting is that SJW chose to read the extract where Heathcliff is talking about the betrayal and the heartbreak. Catherine ripped off his heart and her own heart… So here again, this reveals that SJW is well aware that his comatose wife hurt him in the past by her betrayal. Later, we discover that she had an affair and lied to him. Due to this novel, we can already imagine what will happen to her: she will die, just like Catherine died before Heathcliff. The latter did torment her for marrying Edgar Linton but here, SJW married her hence he had no reason to torment her and she had no reason to betray him.

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Hello dear, @bebebisous33! I am currently looking for another melo i can watch. Is this a nice drama? 

[bebebisous33]

31 minutes ago, dukesa1122 said:

 

Hello dear, @bebebisous33! I am currently looking for another melo i can watch. Is this a nice drama? 

So far, I like it. As you can see, this drama can be analyzed. The use of flowers, paintings and literature are interesting. But the topic is darker, there is also more tension and suspense.

[dukesa1122]

@bebebisous33

Thanks! I’m gonna give it a try this weekend. I’ve been looking for another melo. I hope it’s on Viu!

[MidnightRain]

4 hours ago, juli® said:

Yep, It has to be him... But who shoots him? Ma-Ri? Incidentally, KIW needs to cut his hair, it's very strange that way 

 

 

I meaning SJW and YMR, I agree their match but I still don't like that couple...  Sorry, I can't avoid!   

 

I didn't think he was mad at her about pregnancy... And I also think they didn't have intimacy, he didn't even kiss her!  Or does he have trouble generating a child? OMG, if it's true, there's no sanity to resist! 

 

I think KIW should fire his bodyguards.  Every time the YMR wanted to escape, she succeeded.

 

But In-Wook did kiss her though, he kissed her on the neck/shoulder, but it's obvious that she was enduring it. Before she ran away, I think the mother in-law had made an appointment for her to go see a specialist for pregnancy, so I think it's Ma-Ri that's working hard to not get pregnant bts, and not because of In-Wook's lack of trying. 

 

Lol those poor bodyguards, they have to keep Ma-Ri under close supervision, but they can't disobey her orders either. 

[juli®]

5 hours ago, dukesa1122 said:

 

Hello dear, @bebebisous33! I am currently looking for another melo i can watch. Is this a nice drama? 

What a analysis, I liked it. But Her husband is not embodied by the dead wood, at least I do not understand this way. I think I can't imagine why she feels so lonely because he seems to care a lot about her, takes care of her... Maybe I'm too inexperienced, I don't know, to understand the whole situation... I just can't...pan widget

[juli®]

2 hours ago, MidnightRain said:

 

But In-Wook did kiss her though, he kissed her on the neck/shoulder, but it's obvious that she was enduring it. Before she ran away, I think the mother in-law had made an appointment for her to go see a specialist for pregnancy, so I think it's Ma-Ri that's working hard to not get pregnant bts, and not because of In-Wook's lack of trying. 

 

Lol those poor bodyguards, they have to keep Ma-Ri under close supervision, but they can't disobey her orders either. 

I'm talking about kissing in the mouth, woman! Real kiss. And was he trying to get her pregnant? Because, for those who are outside, it may be problems getting pregnant, but the truth is that they had no intimacy.

[anony12345]

46 minutes ago, juli® said:

What a analysis, I liked it. But Her husband is not embodied by the dead wood, at least I do not understand this way. I think I can't imagine why she feels so lonely because he seems to care a lot about her, takes care of her... Maybe I'm too inexperienced, I don't know, to understand the whole situation... I just can't...pan widget

You're not sure why she felt lonely living with a guy that beat her and restricted her entire life down to things he approved off? He didn't let her lead a life at all to the extent that she can never leave the house without bodyguards who report everything to him. He even seems to dictate which clothes she wears.

 

Feel like despite probably being one of the only males in the thread I'm the most sympathetic towards the female lead haha

[juli®]

What I want to know is when did the violence start and why. The series does not make it clear!

 

5 hours ago, anony12345 said:

You're not sure why she felt lonely living with a guy that beat her and restricted her entire life down to things he approved off? He didn't let her lead a life at all to the extent that she can never leave the house without bodyguards who report everything to him. He even seems to dictate which clothes she wears.

 

Feel like despite probably being one of the only males in the thread I'm the most sympathetic towards the female lead haha

Okay, but I think the bodyguards were hired because she tried to run away, didn't she? What I want to understand is how it all started? How did the violence begin? Was it something she did? Something he saw? What happened? Because he appears remembering the happy moments, moments in which she smiled and was happy next to him. What made it all change?

[MidnightRain]

52 minutes ago, juli® said:

Okay, but I think the bodyguards were hired because she tried to run away, didn't she? What I want to understand is how it all started? How did the violence begin? Was it something she did? Something he saw? What happened? Because he appears remembering the happy moments, moments in which she smiled and was happy next to him. What made it all change?

 

I don't think anything ever changed, this is who In-Wook has always been, it's just that he didn't show this side of himself to Ma-Ri until after they got married, and probably when Ma-Ri resisted to his controlling tendencies. We're shown that Ma-Ri doesn't want to only live as the wife of In-Wook, she wants to carve out her own career and identity, which he's not okay with at all. He's controlling, and when she doesn't go along with what he wants, he gets violent. 

 

In-Wook is capable of being loving and caring, but he can't express these feelings in a healthy manner. He himself is a broken man, he doesn't know how to show his love without being controlling, because that is all he has ever known through his violent, abusive father growing up. He tries to isolate Ma-Ri so that she'll come to be wholly dependent on him, so that she won't ever abandon nor leave him, but he doesn't succeed, and hence why he is so insecure to the point where he has the bodyguards following her around and reporting her every move. Essentially, what he has been trying to do is to break Ma-Ri down completely, so that she will be willing to comply to become a caged bird. He doesn't only remember the happy times, but he also remembers the times when he beat Ma-Ri, acting the same way his father did to his mother -- the man desperately needs some therapy because he's been through a lot of trauma. (Not that I'm excusing the way he treats Ma-Ri, because it is not okay either.)

[juli®]

3 hours ago, MidnightRain said:

 

I don't think anything ever changed, this is who In-Wook has always been, it's just that he didn't show this side of himself to Ma-Ri until after they got married, and probably when Ma-Ri resisted to his controlling tendencies. We're shown that Ma-Ri doesn't want to only live as the wife of In-Wook, she wants to carve out her own career and identity, which he's not okay with at all. He's controlling, and when she doesn't go along with what he wants, he gets violent. 

 

In-Wook is capable of being loving and caring, but he can't express these feelings in a healthy manner. He himself is a broken man, he doesn't know how to show his love without being controlling, because that is all he has ever known through his violent, abusive father growing up. He tries to isolate Ma-Ri so that she'll come to be wholly dependent on him, so that she won't ever abandon nor leave him, but he doesn't succeed, and hence why he is so insecure to the point where he has the bodyguards following her around and reporting her every move. Essentially, what he has been trying to do is to break Ma-Ri down completely, so that she will be willing to comply to become a caged bird. He doesn't only remember the happy times, but he also remembers the times when he beat Ma-Ri, acting the same way his father did to his mother -- the man desperately needs some therapy because he's been through a lot of trauma. (Not that I'm excusing the way he treats Ma-Ri, because it is not okay either.)

I feel sorry for Ma-Ri, but mainly for both. The father interferes too much in the life of the son ... We are all anxious to know the end of this series, I hope the best for all. I hope the first scene of episode 1  not the final to anticipate. Incidentally, I thought the relationship between MR and IW was too fast. 4 episodes and, that's it, finished, she ran away and did the surgery.

[bebebisous33]

5 hours ago, juli® said:

What a analysis, I liked it. But Her husband is not embodied by the dead wood, at least I do not understand this way. I think I can't imagine why she feels so lonely because he seems to care a lot about her, takes care of her... Maybe I'm too inexperienced, I don't know, to understand the whole situation... I just can't...pan widget

Well, if she is not even allowed to see her friends, how can she not feel lonely? But there is even more to it. She has no one she can talk to. Even her friend smiled at her husband, when she met him later. YMR couldn't even confide to her friend as WIK represents the perfect husband on the paper.

In my opinion, her friend is too stupid... she knows that YMR has to meet her in secret and use a different phone, yet she doesn't even question this. Then when the husband visits her, she doesn't even wonder why YMR left him. 

 

Then you describe him as caring about her and taking care of her... I guess, you are thinking like that because she gets pretty dresses and nice jewels. But would you like to be forced not to move freely, not to choose your clothes? He chooses everything, she has no control over her body and her life.

 

The disagreement started because she wanted to become an artist and have her own career, while he wanted her all to himself. From the start, he had imagined her living in a cage, his home. He deceived her by manipulating her career: he used people so that she thought at some point, she was a terrible artist. No one wanted to buy her paintings. He made sure that she believed that she was not successful, until she discovered the reason behind her "failure". That's why she started using her friend in order to sell one of her paintings.  

 

As for KIW, I don't feel sorry for him because at the end, he never saw his own mistakes, just like he never apologized for his violence. In fact, all this time KIW blamed his wife for his "outbursts"

- If she had remained by his side

- If she hadn't run away

- If she could smile for him

- If she hadn't lied to him

- if she had wanted to get pregnant

As you can see, the list is endless... This man used every occasion to blame YMR and never questioned his own behavior. He was the reason why she wanted to run away, why she had to lie to him, why she didn't want to have a child... So the beating started, when YMR expressed a different opinion and showed her own will. How can we say that he takes care of her? He treats her like his slave... she has no right at all. Only in the episode 4, he realizes that he has become like his father. Yet, he keeps tracking down YMR illustrating that despite his self-awareness (of his brutal behavior), he still wants her. He won't change. 

 

There is a reason why I saw KIW as the dead wood: he has been so damaged by his father that he can never change and he is even refusing to change. Now, he has realized why his father asked for a grandchild, why a child was so important. This would bind her to him forever. The child is not loved, the child is just a tool to oppress the wife. In other words, KIW has even accepted that he will be like his father. He hates his father and himself BUT he won't give up on YMR, hence his fate is sealed. If they had a child, KIW would have been exactly like his father: threaten the child in order to torment the mother!! Then they reproduce another monster. A vicious circle.     

[zenya22]

On 3/4/2019 at 10:47 AM, juli® said:

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What is the pool scene, anyway? Is KIW who dying?

 

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It has been so long since I saw the Jdrama but in the original it was the policeman husband abuser who got shot and no he did not die in that scene. I don't remember what happened next from there. But the cat and mouse chase intensifies. Who shot the police officer abuser is not also very transparent. Who done it? can't remember sorry.... but the drama will become more intense with each episode and that is what the drama is all about, a suspense/psychological thriller, not a love story ... I hope they keep it like the original 

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What I want to know is when did the violence start and why. The series does not make it clear!

 

Okay, but I think the bodyguards were hired because she tried to run away, didn't she? What I want to understand is how it all started? How did the violence begin? Was it something she did? Something he saw? What happened? Because he appears remembering the happy moments, moments in which she smiled and was happy next to him. What made it all change?

 

@juli®

There is no excuse, no reason for violence ever, ever, ever, ever, no, no, no. No woman should ever dare to make an excuse for any man, using violence to control a partner. Why in the world would anyone put a body guard on someone to  keep them imprisoned? No excuses... being handsome, having the right pedigree and finances does not give permission for anyone to become violent. The happy moments were moments when he was trying to get her to believe in him and once he did the control and violence began. You ask what made it all change? Are you asking about IW,  who was a child who grew up in a dysfunctional family and developed a dysfunctional mindset? What changed? Nothing changed. He is attached to the memory of his mother then attaches that memory to someone who looks like her and has delusional jealousy about a non existent person to be jealous of. IW has a psychological disorder and he switches from extreme obsessive love to obssesive anger at the blink of an eye. The first episodes have already shown that. He is psycho. This is not about a love story between IW and Mari,  

[juli®]

12 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

Well, if she is not even allowed to see her friends, how can she not feel lonely? But there is even more to it. She has no one she can talk to. Even her friend smiled at her husband, when she met him later. YMR couldn't even confide to her friend as WIK represents the perfect husband on the paper.

In my opinion, her friend is too stupid... she knows that YMR has to meet her in secret and use a different phone, yet she doesn't even question this. Then when the husband visits her, she doesn't even wonder why YMR left him. 

 

Then you describe him as caring about her and taking care of her... I guess, you are thinking like that because she gets pretty dresses and nice jewels. But would you like to be forced not to move freely, not to choose your clothes? He chooses everything, she has no control over her body and her life.

 

The disagreement started because she wanted to become an artist and have her own career, while he wanted her all to himself. From the start, he had imagined her living in a cage, his home. He deceived her by manipulating her career: he used people so that she thought at some point, she was a terrible artist. No one wanted to buy her paintings. He made sure that she believed that she was not successful, until she discovered the reason behind her "failure". That's why she started using her friend in order to sell one of her paintings.  

 

As for KIW, I don't feel sorry for him because at the end, he never saw his own mistakes, just like he never apologized for his violence. In fact, all this time KIW blamed his wife for his "outbursts"

- If she had remained by his side

- If she hadn't run away

- If she could smile for him

- If she hadn't lied to him

- if she had wanted to get pregnant

As you can see, the list is endless... This man used every occasion to blame YMR and never questioned his own behavior. He was the reason why she wanted to run away, why she had to lie to him, why she didn't want to have a child... So the beating started, when YMR expressed a different opinion and showed her own will. How can we say that he takes care of her? He treats her like his slave... she has no right at all. Only in the episode 4, he realizes that he has become like his father. Yet, he keeps tracking down YMR illustrating that despite his self-awareness (of his brutal behavior), he still wants her. He won't change. 

 

There is a reason why I saw KIW as the dead wood: he has been so damaged by his father that he can never change and he is even refusing to change. Now, he has realized why his father asked for a grandchild, why a child was so important. This would bind her to him forever. The child is not loved, the child is just a tool to oppress the wife. In other words, KIW has even accepted that he will be like his father. He hates his father and himself BUT he won't give up on YMR, hence his fate is sealed. If they had a child, KIW would have been exactly like his father: threaten the child in order to torment the mother!! Then they reproduce another monster. A vicious circle.     

Yep, the friend is stupid but she no knows that her husband is violent and obsessive with her, he probably said that YMR was missing so she agreed to help.

 

I said that he cares about her not because of all the expensive stuffs but how much he cares about her.

 

KIW is not yet able to see his mistakes. He's heavily influenced by his father, has terrible traumas of childhood, feels guilty for his mother's death, but in that scene of the revolver he has been able to see that he is doing what his father did to his mother. And, after all, he told YMR that he understood his father after he met her: she belongs to him.

 

As for tracking down YMR, he needs to know why she left him; besides, she is a comfort to the difficult life he has next to his father ... Not justified, of course, but that's how things work .

 

When the child, nothing guarantees that he will do the same as his father did with him, even because he remembers well and may not want the same fate for his own child.

[bebebisous33]

17 minutes ago, juli® said:

Yep, the friend is stupid but she doesn't know that her husband is violent and obsessive with her, he probably said that YMR was missing so she agreed to help.

 

I said that he cares about her not because of all the expensive stuffs but how much he cares about her.

 

KIW is not yet able to see his mistakes. He's heavily influenced by his father, has terrible traumas of childhood, feels guilty for his mother's death, but in that scene of the revolver he has been able to see that he is doing what his father did to his mother. And, after all, he told YMR that he understood his father after he met her: she belongs to him.

 

As for tracking down YMR, he needs to know why she left him; besides, she is a comfort to the difficult life he has next to his father ... Not justified, of course, but that's how things work .

 

When the child, nothing guarantees that he will do the same as his father did with him, even because he remembers well and may not want the same fate for his own child.

I have to disagree with you about KIW. He doesn't care about YMR because if he did, he would have listened to her but he never did.

In my opinion, KIW will never change because he knows why she is running away from him. KIW has been saying all the time that he expected that she would run away. He was already insecure from the start. Remember when he said, her eyes would betray her... he could see what she was thinking, that she would betray him and run away. 

[zenya22]

how disturbing for Ma Ri, to be yet again a 'Face' with such meaning for someone else 

On 3/4/2019 at 8:11 AM, bebebisous33 said:

Okay, don't throw stones at me but I don't perceive the doctor as crazy or creepy... To me it wasn't SJW's initial intention to give her the face of his wife. I felt, Hae Ra's words made him look like that. However, she was never there, when SJR met YMR for the first time, when he met her on the road, how the surgery happened. She never heard YMR's request. It is just Hae Ra's perspective which I can not accept as she is herself totally biased. She is determined to see YMR and HK as the culprits, the ones who turned SJW into a crazy man.

Hae Ra is not the point here, whatever she thinks or whatever she feels has nothing to do with very relevant issues that she just brought up. And it will not only be HR but Dr Ha and his mom as well will question his decisions and anyone who is concerned about him would. The question here is Mari who has been emotionally, psychologically injured by a man who wanted her because she looks like his mother. How would Mari feel, to yet again be the face with sentimental meaning for the man who "saved" her life, yet she may not be able to say anything because she feels indebted just like when IW saved her mom by placing her in a nursing home. For sure Dr. Seo is not IW but the implications of his decision to change Mari's face to his wife's face are troubling. Dr Seo was crying at his wife's gravesite and saying that he did not protect his wife or did not love her enough and he should have done better as a husband. That night of his wife's death he tells Ma Ri that he will do the reconstructive surgery. He does the surgery in secrecy to protect Ma ri but then changes his mind about which face to give her and reconstructed the face of his wife instead. He has not reported his wife's death. He is walking around seemingly contented, in lala land, no grieving as if he did not just lose the wife he said he has not loved or cared for enough. Yet his affect is very flat as if he did not care or he is not in touch with his feelings or he is in denial and thinks of Mari as his wife? Something is wrong. Did he not ever think of how Mari would feel when she finds out that he gave her the face of his wife who just died? Even if he still addresses her as Mari the fact that she stays in his house and has the face of Ha Kyung would he not eventually have to address her as his wife Ha Kyung especially when people come knocking? What about the legal implications of identity theft? He practically stole his wife's identity to give to Mari, did he not? It is not going to be easy as he thinks will it?

 

Ma Ri and JW have not talked and they need to. JW has to know the meaning of Ma Ri's face to the obsessed IW inorder to have a clue of how Ma Ri feels about having the face of another woman that reminds the man who "saved" her life of his wife. Maybe being confronted with the violence of IW's obsession will drive home to JW how that feels for Mari. At least, I hope the drama will show JW having some self reflection and consider how that feels for Ma Ri as well as unreservedly dealing with his emotions about the death of his wife. 

[zenya22]

49 minutes ago, juli® said:

As for tracking down YMR, he needs to know why she left him; besides, she is a comfort to the difficult life he has next to his father ... Not justified, of course, but that's how things work .

 

When the child, nothing guarantees that he will do the same as his father did with him, even because he remembers well and may not want the same fate for his own child.

sorry, to disagree with you but it seems you are trying to find an excuse for the violence of a psychotic man and trying to blame the woman who was abused for causing the abuse and that is not how things work. Mari does not owe the nutcase an explanation of why she left him. As for a child yes, he will do the same as his father. When humans are born their mind and body are like blank slates. The first 5-7 years are the years that the mind, the psychological and mental make up are most influenced. It is when we learn how to be human, to walk, feed ourselves but we also see and hear and feel and learn from the environment around us. It is when what we believe about ourselves, our families, the people around us and our environment are instilled and those beliefs are not easy to change just like when people believed that the world was flat and when someone else said the world was round they were stoned. Some people who went through what IW went through were lucky enough to have left the environment they were abused in and find people who helped them to change and live a productive life. Sometimes their experiences early in life have inspired them to become the best person they could be. In IW's case, he is a chaebol who is entitled who has everything he needs and stays in the same environment and it will be very hard at this time to get him to change unless  he moves away somewhere where he could get intensive therapy. But that depends on the drama writer.