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I don't know where the drama is heading and probably I have to eat my word latter. But..

 

I already said before that my focal point in this drama is Hwi and HJ's relationship. But I have been staying silent for a while. Because something doesn't seem right to me. Their relationship is so unbalanced.

 

We have HJ waiting to have Hwi's news for a very long time and when he is back, she does what she can for him and to be with him. She already looks forward to spending seasons with him, meaning to share a life with him. What about Hwi? Yes, he loves HJ. What's not to love about her when she is a rare bright spot in his life and she treats him so well. But I don't sense his sincere wish to fight for a future with her. All he can focus on right now is risking his life to save his sister and he can just die at any point while trying to reach his goal. Saving his sister is the ultimate goal in his life - HJ is simple not a part of it and he doesn't even fight at all, so far. I get it, that he does not want to cause danger to her. 

 

But HJ is way more capable of finding her own path and takes action than Hwi thinks of her. She is not a damsel in distress but a girl with good survival skill and judgement. She took risks on her own to earn a spot of being the Queen's advisor.  Hwi is probably forever be a pawn in someone else's game (in this case: Bangwon) but HJ isn't. She will use information for her advantage rather than let information be used to harm innocent people - that's a bitter lesson she learns when Hwi was sent away. Just like Lady Seol, she will survive among the wolves rather than let these wolves control her. She is so determined in what she wants to do.. Does Hwi even understand her at all? What the heck is he trying to act rude, pointing his bow towards her, even. Driving her away is his way of loving her but that's noble idiocy. 

 

There are many times when I wonder if the way HJ treats Hwi now is largely due to the fact that his father saved her when she was a kid - like a way of paying his father back. Hwi reminds HJ so much of his father and she treats him with ultimate gentleness and understanding. She sees pass Hwi's shaky hand and bloody face to see the shame and sadness in his eyes as well as the scars in his soul. She is now fully devoted to keeping him safe and putting his sake before hers. 

 

Hwi is capable of being a sweet boyfriend; he is a caring person in nature. Like the way he tries to reach out for her face and tugs her in her blanket even when he is in great pain.  I want him to put more effort in his relationship with HJ, or else I just feel that she deserves someone better. Too bad, that someone is simple not the the son of her savior  - so he will never exist.

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Seon Ho is someone I simply can't hate. Because I can understand why he does the things he does. And he is so lonely. 

 

Honestly, so far I feel sorry for him much more than Hwi. Hwi has good leadership and he is a true warrior. He has a girl who loves him wholeheartedly, an innocent sister to protect and a squad of loyal brothers. Of course he doesn't get love, friendship and loyalty for free: there are things he risks to life to get and people are drawn to him because of his quality.

 

Seon Ho only has Hwi as a friend. His only friend who he truly loves, just that he loves himself more. HJ is all for Hwi's sake. His father is simple a bastard. The only one who truly cares for him is Hwi's innocent sister - Seon Ho cares about her like his own sister too but without any romantic feeling.

 

It's Seon Ho who helps Hwi fight to register his name. It's also him who encourages Hwi to participate in the hunt as a way to be recognized despite his low status. He saves Hwi's sister not with the original intention of using her even though he has to threaten his father. At least at first, he chooses to forfeit his friendship with Hwi and makes himself a bad guy in front of Hwi somehow for Hwi's sake. I can never forget how he used to stand up for Hwi and cared for Soyeon. 

 

I feel bad for Seon Ho when he learns that HJ is at Ihwaru during Hwi's assassination attempt - the way he rushes to that place with the hope that HJ doesn't see Hwi to explain himself. I don't think he harbors hope of getting her love but knowing she doesn't want to lose him a friend and that she understands the bad things happened to Hwi were due to his father are actually what he needs to hear. Someone like Seon Ho can go into the right direction with the right guidance and encouragement. The way HJ harshly scolds him, telling him he is exactly like his father is what he truly dreads to hear - now he even loses her as a casual friend. She is among very few people who sees or at least saw the good in him and does not use him for advantage. And when he comes back from the prison, being torture, he gets another slap from her. Not that such slap isn't undeserving -  just that for Seon Ho "when it rains, it pours". 

 

Even with all the terrible things Seon Ho does, I sympathize with him and I feel sorry for him for losing everything that he once treasured. He wants Hwi's friendship but he can't just continue to have that - I never sense that he wants Hwi to die at all no matter that Hwi may do, at least until now.  Bound by his own tragedy and inferior complex, he can't rise above that and wants power to solve something that can't be solved. He wants a friend like Hwi, a sister like Soyeon, a lover like HJ. Too bad, he can't.  

 

In tonight's episode, we see how Seon Ho cares  and tries to reach out for Hwi when he thinks that Hwi is in danger and eventually get killed. He cares for Hwi like the old Seon Ho would certainly do. How he risks his life to get Yeon out and almost gets killed if Hwi's brothers do not get there in time. But that's also the end of his friendship with Hwi: When Hwi fights to destroy his father by faking his death, that destroys Seon Ho too.  If were Seon Ho, I would feel betrayed and shake any good feeling I have about Hwi too. 

 

What a great pity seeing two friends turn enemies like that.

 

Hwi is not someone I am worry for. There are people who will always have his back. He never seems to be able to die anyway that his hardship can be tedious and tiring at times. It's Seon Ho who has nothing and I can't wait to see him redeem himself at the end. So yes, I can say that I don't really care much about Hwi's journey now but Seon Ho's. 

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For me too, one of the most important focus points is the relationship of Hwi and Heejae, it's bittersweet yet so beautiful. And it's so simple: Hwi loves Heejae just as much as she does, but he knows he might cause her danger. It's not that he is weak and not willing to fight for her, but his life is at risk at any moment, at all moments. I don't see anyone among the characters that deserves her more than he does, and I can't say he doesn't deserve her, their love started, if I can put it correctly, at first sight, or something closer to this. They didn't need much moments to fall for each other, and it grew strong though they were apart. 

 

Now, spoiler alert!! 

 

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Just finished watching live episode, god this was such a heavy episode I couldn't take a breath! 

 

I'll comment later once I'm done with the subbed. Just came here to express my anger. Yeon? :tears: I was seeing that, and I think I mentioned earlier that she's going to die. Just wasn't expecting it now. I feel it's too early. Some ppl thought Heejae is dying and she's the one Hwi will seek revenge for, but I don't think she's dying, at least not before the last episode. I'm so pissed, but again, I saw that coming. 

 

The happy scene where they were having a feast: was clearly the calm that precedes the storm!! Now I see Hwi's character turning point and I'm sad yet excited for YSJ because it will truly show us how he could take his acting to the next level. 

 

Yeon, you were the purest and most innocent among all. Great acting, will miss you. When I was watching the reaction video and YSJ said I miss my sister, it came to my mind that they're no more filming together and their scenes might have been shot earlier and that her character might have come to an end. So shocking!! 

 

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32 minutes ago, r047 said:

For me too, one of the most important focus points is the relationship of Hwi and Heejae, it's bittersweet yet so beautiful. And it's so simple: Hwi loves Heejae just as much as she does, but he knows he might cause her danger. It's not that he is weak and not willing to fight for her, but his life is at risk at any moment, at all moments. I don't see anyone among the characters that deserves her more than he does, and I can't say he doesn't deserve her, their love started, if I can put it correctly, at first sight, or something closer to this. They didn't need much moments to fall for each other, and it grew strong though they were apart. 

 

Now, spoiler alert!! 

 

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Just finished watching live episode, god this was such a heavy episode I couldn't take a breath! 

 

I'll comment later once I'm done with the subbed. Just came here to express my anger. Yeon? :tears: I was seeing that, and I think I mentioned earlier that she's going to die. Just wasn't expecting it now. I feel it's too early. Some ppl thought Heejae is dying and she's the one Hwi will seek revenge for, but I don't think she's dying, at least not before the last episode. I'm so pissed, but again, I saw that coming. 

 

The happy scene where they were having a feast: was clearly the calm that precedes the storm!! Now I see Hwi's character turning point and I'm sad yet excited for YSJ because it will truly show us how he could take his acting to the next level. 

 

Yeon, you were the purest and most innocent among all. Great acting, will miss you. When I was watching the reaction video and YSJ said I miss my sister, it came to my mind that they're no more filming together and their scenes might have been shot earlier and that her character might have come to an end. So shocking!! 

 

 

I never said Hwi doesn't deserve HJ. All I want is from episode 8 onward, when he truly sees the extent of HJ's love for him, he will at least stop trying to be away from her and think about a future with her. Or else she will forever have to wait around for someone who hide from her and doesn't be with her - in that case, HJ truly deserves better. HJ is not a high-maintenance lover - she only hopes to accompany Hwi and shares his burden rather than asks him to be with her all the time. 

 

Well, I think my wish is granted. Because at least in tonight's episode, Hwi promises to come back to HJ no matter what as she says she will wait for him. At least that a sign to prove that he wants to be with her and they can discuss things together now. And we have the second kiss :) That's enough for me.

 

But that's just the calm before the storm before Hwi embarks on a dark journey of his own. 

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22 minutes ago, melp said:

 

I never said Hwi doesn't deserve HJ. All I want is from episode 8 onward, when he truly sees the extent of HJ's love for him, he will at least stop trying to be away from her and think about a future with her. Or else she will forever have to wait around for someone who hide from her and doesn't be with her - in that case, HJ truly deserves better. HJ is not a high-maintenance lover - she only hopes to accompany Hwi and shares his burden rather than asks him to be with her all the time. 

 

Well, I think my wish is granted. Because at least in tonight's episode, Hwi promises to come back to HJ no matter what as she says she will wait for him. At least that a sign to prove that he wants to be with her and they can discuss things together now. And we have the second kiss :) That's enough for me.

 

But that's just the calm before the storm before Hwi embarks on a dark journey of his own. 

 

I think he started to open up to her slowly, starting from episodes 7 and 8, where he realized he really loves her and she will not let go of him. Starting with that bittersweet forehead kiss, to the hug, and today's episode scene of them together shows he is willing for a life with her. I mean it will be awkward if he opens up abruptly, it will show nothing but his selfishness because her life will be at risk with him. I enjoyed the slow pace of their relationship. 

 

In the beginning I was really sure this was heading to a sad ending for all of the characters, now I'm a bit confused, a happy ending is still a valid option. Hwi's life isn't going to be the same now that all his efforts, his friends, and suffering are in vain. But now that he started welcoming Heejae to his life, will he have something to live for? Or will the revenge be all what he thinks of? Things will be clear from tomorrow's episode. 

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1 hour ago, melp said:

Because I can understand why he does the things he does. And he is so lonely.

Sun-ho epitomizes the saying "hurt people hurt people." 

 

As for me, I'm not that invested in the romantic relationship. I'm more into Hwi and Sun-ho's "bromance" but what interests me in Hwi and Hui-jae's relationship is how her position as an adviser to the queen may affect Hwi. I want to see how that plays out. Will it help Hwi? Will it put her life in danger? 

 

I'm about to watch the new episode. :)

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Woaah *heavy sigh* I'm still crying about Yeon what a precious soul :tears:During that scene I was like damn girl run!!! Out of all the characters my favorite is Seon Ho. He really treated Yeon like his own sister urgh I missed how she has a huge crush on him and Seon Ho and Hwi are playing along with it :( I just realized that in the first episode when Hwi came to kill Nam Jeon but Seon Ho stopped it then he looked first at the cloth with a I think bird sewed to it. It's the one Yeon personally made for him. So Yeon was like the trigger for everything. When Woo Do Hwan said in the swoon video that the only happy scene was during the kite festival I thought that there still be one because they're still filming but ahhh he wad dead serious. What I really love about this drama is that even though I know how it will end based on history I don't have any idea what will happen to the three characters. I'm still hopinf for a happy ending there's still a chance. And what I mean with happy ending is that all the three of them is alive. Yeon should be the last one! And they shouldn't touch any of Hwi's squad either! Just let them live!! huhu

 

PS: Seems like the staff shares the same sentiments with us on how Woo Do Hwan looks so good with blood especially with a splatter on his face lol that they're doing it every episode hahaha might as well tattooed those on his face :lol:

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It's good to see the actors among the hot topics on Naver, a while ago it was Jang Hyuk and now YSJ is topping the list among the hot search topics, I hope it reflects on the ratings, I want to see a leap because today's episode was really Daebak!! 

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Whew! That was really heavy, black, and sad. Just when things started to brighten ahead of Hwi, everything collapsed again.

 

Namjeon, I hate you. If this means anything it would mean how the actor did an excellent job in portraying the character. Another character to add to my blacklist following this episode is the queen. The weakest character would be Yi Seunggye. 

 

Bangwon and Hwi executed the plan beautifully, to be ruined in the end by giving Namjeon his freedom. It's frustrating that all the lives that were lost and the efforts are now all in vain. 

 

Some of the funny scenes I liked was when they were teasing Hwi with the band lol and the whole table scene, to see some happy moments in this dark drama is rare and precious, not to forget Hwi and Huijae moments. Oh and that where Hwi was running to meet with Yeon, aww he was just like a young boy. YSJ is so manly yet babyfaced and gives you innocent vibes. 

 

I really loved Sunho in this episode. I really loved the tears of happiness when he knew Hwi was alive. Well done WDH. I was super excited when he was fighting alongside Hwi in the end and thought that the bromance we loved might be seen again :w00t:, that was too short. 

 

Hwi promised Huijae he'll be back and won't let her wait more. This promise gave me hope in a happy ending, yet in the preview, it's like he surrendered and will not let Yeon wait more. Life has no taste, no color for Hwi now. Yeon told him that he hasn't changed, is it finally the turning point for him? Let's see how his character changes. 

 

Can't predict what will happen in tomorrow's episode but I'm preparing myself for much sobbing. YSJ is a master of emotional scenes he lets you get so immersed with him as if it is a true loss, not a mere drama :tears: 

 

Actors are doing a great job here and we're watching a masterpiece, but the ratings? I was trying not to think of it much but even Koreans are surprised with the numbers. Vagabond did not air as well I was expecting much rise thanks to that but they're stable. Other than that I see that the drama is a huge success. I hope that does not frustrate our cast and I hope they'll get many awards in the end of the year, that I'm sure of! 

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We cannot fully expect ratings to increase as this is a cable TV drama. Kudos to the cast and the production team for giving us a wonderful drama.

 

I have one issue regarding the female lead and this is personal. Is she afraid of crumpling her stiff face? She displays just one expression, brows furrowed slightly, tight lips, wide eyes. That's all you get from her. Whatever emotion she's supposed to display, what you get is her stoic face. She might have been good in a few of her dramas, but she's lacking in the emotional department here. I compare her acting to the nuances of the facial expressions and delivery of lines of the actress playing Yeon and even the gisaeng who's HJ's friend. For me, these two ladies' acting is more natural.

 

Sun Ho's eyes are expressive, so they count and I love that he always has a warm and gentle smile for Yeon. He has to remain firm and bottle everything inside, from the insults he receives for being the son of a concubine to being forced to live with a heartless father, getting a position due to his father's clout to being forced by circumstances to part ways with his only true friends. In the first episode, I think he wants to prevent Hwi from killing his father not because he wants to save his father's life, but rather save his friends life by killing his father himself, the father he's hated all his life.

 

 

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Ep 9 Knetz comments


1.    The best drama to renew my number one drama. The drama is has no redundancy (271 -8)

2.    What's the rating? It's really fun. (+211 -6)

3.    It has the best acting, best directing, best historical drama. (+130 -4)

4.    Daebak! It’s a pity there is only 16 episodes (+72 -3)

5.    Addictive drama ~ (+41 -2)


https://entertain.naver.com/ranking/read?oid=609&aid=0000197097

 

1.    I can't believe Kite died in vain after struggling so hard to be alive (+153 -3)

2.    All the leading and supporting actors are so good… If you want to find a loophole, it’ll be that bodyguard of Ihwaru? He only holds a sword, yet he's not talking, he's not fighting. (+86 -7)

3.    Jang Hyuk. He's crazy. He's cool. (+82 -7)

4.    Hurry up tomorrow andᅲᅲᅲᅲ Woo Do Hwan is so cool.... ᅲᅲᅲᅲ (+59 -7)

5.    Jang Hyuk is really good at acting! (+40 -4)


https://entertain.naver.com/ranking/read?oid=108&aid=0002820894
 

 

1.    Woo Do Hwan is so great today! When he cried when asking if he was still alive, my face was crumpling. (+219 -11)

2.    Jang Hyuk’s acting without lines was so good (+151 -4)

3.    Shouldn't Jang Hyuk be in the main poster? Jang Hyuk, Ahn Nae-sang, Kim Young-chul are the main characters, and the rest seems to be supporting roles. (+111 -20)

4.    Seolhyun, what's wrong with her bodyguard? Yeon ㅜㅜ(+89 -5)

5.    Jang Hyuk's acting is so good, Lee Bang-won is so charming. I hope the tempo can be increased a bit (+71 -4)


https://entertain.naver.com/ranking/read?oid=609&aid=0000197054

 


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1 hour ago, reddragon said:

I have one issue regarding the female lead and this is personal. Is she afraid of crumpling her stiff face? She displays just one expression, brows furrowed slightly, tight lips, wide eyes. That's all you get from her. Whatever emotion she's supposed to display, what you get is her stoic face.

I agree but I've stopped myself from commenting about her acting because she's from a girl group and others may say the criticism is just hate. But yes, I agree. It's one of the reasons why I'm not that invested in the romantic relationship. There's something lacking there - a depth in emotion, a deeper understanding of the character? You can tell she's acting when in the case of other actors, it's like they're living and breathing the characters they play. Anyway, I think it's good that the story is great because it carries everyone. You don't distance yourself from the show as a viewer just because you can't connect with one character because the story is great, it makes you want to watch more of it. 

 

I started watching the new episode early morning and I must admit I slept mid-way. I'll continue watching it now but based on posts here, it seems there's going to be a sad ending. :bawling:

 

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Mixed thoughts about this episode.

 

I couldn't help but not notice Hui Jae & Hui Jae's bodyguard run up to help, but then shown to be chilling as Yeon takes the blade in the stomach. Yeons death could have been set up and executed a whole lot better. There was also the instance at the start of the episode where Bang Won's bodyguard 'slashes' Hwi and he falls to the ground--except no blood, no wound to show afterwards. I mean was it all theatrics and we're being shown that Seon Ho is just blind and blatantly can't see he's getting pranked or...?

 

Nothing has yet to top that immortal Liaodong death squad assassin getting rammed in the chest with a sword by Hwi and waking up the next morning good as new, but still it's immersion breaking.

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12 hours ago, melp said:

Seon Ho is someone I simply can't hate. Because I can understand why he does the things he does. And he is so lonely. 

 

Honestly, so far I feel sorry for him much more than Hwi. Hwi has good leadership and he is a true warrior. He has a girl who loves him wholeheartedly, an innocent sister to protect and a squad of loyal brothers. Of course he doesn't get love, friendship and loyalty for free: there are things he risks to life to get and people are drawn to him because of his quality.

 

Seon Ho only has Hwi as a friend. His only friend who he truly loves, just that he loves himself more. HJ is all for Hwi's sake. His father is simple a bastard. The only one who truly cares for him is Hwi's innocent sister - Seon Ho cares about her like his own sister too but without any romantic feeling.

 

It's Seon Ho who helps Hwi fight to register his name. It's also him who encourages Hwi to participate in the hunt as a way to be recognized despite his low status. He saves Hwi's sister not with the original intention of using her even though he has to threaten his father. At least at first, he chooses to forfeit his friendship with Hwi and makes himself a bad guy in front of Hwi somehow for Hwi's sake. I can never forget how he used to stand up for Hwi and cared for Soyeon. 

 

I feel bad for Seon Ho when he learns that HJ is at Ihwaru during Hwi's assassination attempt - the way he rushes to that place with the hope that HJ doesn't see Hwi to explain himself. I don't think he harbors hope of getting her love but knowing she doesn't want to lose him a friend and that she understands the bad things happened to Hwi were due to his father are actually what he needs to hear. Someone like Seon Ho can go into the right direction with the right guidance and encouragement. The way HJ harshly scolds him, telling him he is exactly like his father is what he truly dreads to hear - now he even loses her as a casual friend. She is among very few people who sees or at least saw the good in him and does not use him for advantage. And when he comes back from the prison, being torture, he gets another slap from her. Not that such slap isn't undeserving -  just that for Seon Ho "when it rains, it pours". 

 

Even with all the terrible things Seon Ho does, I sympathize with him and I feel sorry for him for losing everything that he once treasured. He wants Hwi's friendship but he can't just continue to have that - I never sense that he wants Hwi to die at all no matter that Hwi may do, at least until now.  Bound by his own tragedy and inferior complex, he can't rise above that and wants power to solve something that can't be solved. He wants a friend like Hwi, a sister like Soyeon, a lover like HJ. Too bad, he can't.  

 

In tonight's episode, we see how Seon Ho cares  and tries to reach out for Hwi when he thinks that Hwi is in danger and eventually get killed. He cares for Hwi like the old Seon Ho would certainly do. How he risks his life to get Yeon out and almost gets killed if Hwi's brothers do not get there in time. But that's also the end of his friendship with Hwi: When Hwi fights to destroy his father by faking his death, that destroys Seon Ho too.  If were Seon Ho, I would feel betrayed and shake any good feeling I have about Hwi too. 

 

What a great pity seeing two friends turn enemies like that.

 

Hwi is not someone I am worry for. There are people who will always have his back. He never seems to be able to die anyway that his hardship can be tedious and tiring at times. It's Seon Ho who has nothing and I can't wait to see him redeem himself at the end. So yes, I can say that I don't really care much about Hwi's journey now but Seon Ho's. 

 


 

I binged watched all 9 episodes in 1 day and I agree with this!

 

Although I like all the characters...Seon Ho is the shining star for me. You can see the evil he’s capable of And his willingness to trample over others to get power and status........ he wants so badly to cut ties with one person holding him back, Hwi.........................but. he. just. can’t. do. it.

 

how many times has he told Hwi that their friendship was over? Yet Seon Ho comes swooping in, trying to save his pal every. single. time. Gosh, it’s so complex and interesting.

 

Hwi and HJ are cute and all....but the real heartbreak is between Hwi and Seon Ho. I just can’t wait to see how it ends...it’s going to be a tear jerker

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15 hours ago, melp said:

Seon Ho is someone I simply can't hate. Because I can understand why he does the things he does. And he is so lonely. 

 

Honestly, so far I feel sorry for him much more than Hwi. Hwi has good leadership and he is a true warrior. He has a girl who loves him wholeheartedly, an innocent sister to protect and a squad of loyal brothers. Of course he doesn't get love, friendship and loyalty for free: there are things he risks to life to get and people are drawn to him because of his quality.

 

Seon Ho only has Hwi as a friend. His only friend who he truly loves, just that he loves himself more. HJ is all for Hwi's sake. His father is simple a bastard. The only one who truly cares for him is Hwi's innocent sister - Seon Ho cares about her like his own sister too but without any romantic feeling.

 

It's Seon Ho who helps Hwi fight to register his name. It's also him who encourages Hwi to participate in the hunt as a way to be recognized despite his low status. He saves Hwi's sister not with the original intention of using her even though he has to threaten his father. At least at first, he chooses to forfeit his friendship with Hwi and makes himself a bad guy in front of Hwi somehow for Hwi's sake. I can never forget how he used to stand up for Hwi and cared for Soyeon. 

 

I feel bad for Seon Ho when he learns that HJ is at Ihwaru during Hwi's assassination attempt - the way he rushes to that place with the hope that HJ doesn't see Hwi to explain himself. I don't think he harbors hope of getting her love but knowing she doesn't want to lose him a friend and that she understands the bad things happened to Hwi were due to his father are actually what he needs to hear. Someone like Seon Ho can go into the right direction with the right guidance and encouragement. The way HJ harshly scolds him, telling him he is exactly like his father is what he truly dreads to hear - now he even loses her as a casual friend. She is among very few people who sees or at least saw the good in him and does not use him for advantage. And when he comes back from the prison, being torture, he gets another slap from her. Not that such slap isn't undeserving -  just that for Seon Ho "when it rains, it pours". 

 

Even with all the terrible things Seon Ho does, I sympathize with him and I feel sorry for him for losing everything that he once treasured. He wants Hwi's friendship but he can't just continue to have that - I never sense that he wants Hwi to die at all no matter that Hwi may do, at least until now.  Bound by his own tragedy and inferior complex, he can't rise above that and wants power to solve something that can't be solved. He wants a friend like Hwi, a sister like Soyeon, a lover like HJ. Too bad, he can't.  

 

In tonight's episode, we see how Seon Ho cares  and tries to reach out for Hwi when he thinks that Hwi is in danger and eventually get killed. He cares for Hwi like the old Seon Ho would certainly do. How he risks his life to get Yeon out and almost gets killed if Hwi's brothers do not get there in time. But that's also the end of his friendship with Hwi: When Hwi fights to destroy his father by faking his death, that destroys Seon Ho too.  If were Seon Ho, I would feel betrayed and shake any good feeling I have about Hwi too. 

 

What a great pity seeing two friends turn enemies like that.

 

Hwi is not someone I am worry for. There are people who will always have his back. He never seems to be able to die anyway that his hardship can be tedious and tiring at times. It's Seon Ho who has nothing and I can't wait to see him redeem himself at the end. So yes, I can say that I don't really care much about Hwi's journey now but Seon Ho's. 

 I cannot hate Seon Ho too, but what makes me wonders is why did he chose to stay by his father's side when he knew that he is heartless and did not care if he live or die. He can continue being an official without living as his father's shadow. He can join hands with Bang Won and takes his father's down. He can reveal all his dad's secret plan to Bang Won and let Bang Won do all the work to assasinate his dad. Or he can used he influenced with the king, to make his dad being punished. With the brain he has, he can do so much but he chose the wrong side and that what makes him becomes lonelier. His decision to stick being the son of Nam Jeon and protecting the house of Nam what makes him lost Hwi. Hwi already forgiven him and save him when he was attacked in Liaodong. But what did he do the moment he regain his conciousness? He pushes Hwi away and used him as bait and become his dad's puppet again to assasinate Bang Won. 

 

I know Seon Ho still cares for Hwi, we can see that by how he protects Yeon and how he cried tonight. But, he will not go anywherre if he still live under his father's shadow. He needs to break free from him. The longer he stays with his father, the more enemy he will get and this includes Bang Won. This is not good because even the king is afraid of his own son. 

 

I could not blame HJ for being mad at him too. What she said is true. One way or another, Seon Ho did used Hwi to get his mission done. He plans to kill that minister but he did not get his hands dirty on it. He asked Hwi to do and the one who will become fugitive is Hwi. His actions also makes Bang Won suspected Hwi. So like HJ said he did tramples and used people for his own good including his best friend. This what make HJ more mad at him. Because among all people, Seon Ho should be the one who know how pitiful Hwi is. Instead of helping Hwi to get Yeon back, he used him for his mission. If you look at a bigger picture, Hwi did not benefit anything of this big war. He did not has power or position to protect, his only family is gone now, warriors like him can easily be forgotten and it's not that his low status will be elevate. His goal is only to kill Nam Jeon and Seon Ho is not making it easy for him. 

 

 

episode 9 is really a tear jerker episode for me. Both Hwi and Seon Ho makes me cry buckets. And why did they killed Yeon? Why did they take the only family Hwi has? N i think the real deal starts now. He has nothing to loose and I could not wait for him to go full force to kill Nam Jeon. I think Hwi has lost all hopes to stay alive. He knew that he will die at the end because of the poison but before that definitely he will kill Nam Jeon. I hope Seon Ho will not stop him (tho this won't be the case). We know from the begining of epi 1, Seon Ho will stop Hwi from killing his father. (Gosh Seon Ho, why are you so stupid and still wants to protect your old man?). I seriously cannot read Seon Ho. He is being very obvious that he hates his father but he seems cannot free himself from him. One minute he is determine to take his father down and the next minute he is back being the little kid who is tied by the neck by his dad. 

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29 minutes ago, liltash85 said:

 I cannot hate Seon Ho too, but what makes me wonders is why did he chose to stay by his father's side when he knew that he is heartless and did not care if he live or die. He can continue being an official without living as his father's shadow. He can join hands with Bang Won and takes his father's down. He can reveal all his dad's secret plan to Bang Won and let Bang Won do all the work to assasinate his dad. Or he can used he influenced with the king, to make his dad being punished. With the brain he has, he can do so much but he chose the wrong side and that what makes him becomes lonelier. His decision to stick being the son of Nam Jeon and protecting the house of Nam what makes him lost Hwi. Hwi already forgiven him and save him when he was attacked in Liaodong. But what did he do the moment he regain his conciousness? He pushes Hwi away and used him as bait and become his dad's puppet again to assasinate Bang Won. 

 

I know Seon Ho still cares for Hwi, we can see that by how he protects Yeon and how he cried tonight. But, he will not go anywherre if he still live under his father's shadow. He needs to break free from him. The longer he stays with his father, the more enemy he will get and this includes Bang Won. This is not good because even the king is afraid of his own son. 

 

I could not blame HJ for being mad at him too. What she said is true. One way or another, Seon Ho did used Hwi to get his mission done. He plans to kill that minister but he did not get his hands dirty on it. He asked Hwi to do and the one who will become fugitive is Hwi. His actions also makes Bang Won suspected Hwi. So like HJ said he did tramples and used people for his own good including his best friend. This what make HJ more mad at him. Because among all people, Seon Ho should be the one who know how pitiful Hwi is. Instead of helping Hwi to get Yeon back, he used him for his mission. If you look at a bigger picture, Hwi did not benefit anything of this big war. He did not has power or position to protect, his only family is gone now, warriors like him can easily be forgotten and it's not that his low status will be elevate. His goal is only to kill Nam Jeon and Seon Ho is not making it easy for him. 

 

 

Seon Ho does want to break free from his father's shadow and disobeys him when his conscience calls for it. I don't really understand why he can't seem to leave his father either  when he surely understands that his father doesn't really consider him a son. Is this because he truly wants his father to recognize him and love him for who he is? Like we all want something we can't have, a kid wishing to catch a moon though it is an impossible thing to do. 

 

Between Bangwon and the King, Seon Ho just seems to pick the wrong tree to support. Like how his father tends to side with the Queen, Seon Ho will also be at odds with Bangwon too because of political conflict. In such political situations, officials need to pick sides and Seon Ho picks the wrong side from the start, offering his loyalty to the King and the young Crown Prince. Too bad we know how the history ends. 

 

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Damn, I just watched the subbed preview. So Hwi was poisoned by Nam Jeon? No wonder why he said to his sister in heaven to wait for him a little more.  :bawling:

 

 

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50 minutes ago, melp said:

 

Seon Ho does want to break free from his father's shadow and disobeys him when his conscience calls for it. I don't really understand why he can't seem to leave his father either  when he surely understands that his father doesn't really consider him a son. Is this because he truly wants his father to recognize him and love him for who he is? Like we all want something we can't have, a kid wishing to catch a moon though it is an impossible thing to do. 

 

Between Bangwon and the King, Seon Ho just seems to pick the wrong tree to support. Like how his father tends to side with the Queen, Seon Ho will also be at odds with Bangwon too because of political conflict. In such political situations, officials need to pick sides and Seon Ho picks the wrong side from the start, offering his loyalty to the King and the young Crown Prince. Too bad we know how the history ends. 

 

He has so many chances to betray his father and side with Bang Won but apparently he did not want to since start. Is it because he adores Yi Seong Gye that he did not want to be on Bang Won's side? I hope he redeemed himself and get on Bang Won's side. Together, I want Hwi, Seon Ho led by Bang Won to crush Nam Jeon and the queen. 

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