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[Drama 2019] The Devil Is Calling Your Name, 악마가 너의 이름을 부를 때

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Welcome to @romance06, @Anonymous :). So glad to see you both here on this thread. 

 

@romance06 I think you've done extremely well to state your views so don't be shy about posting. Besides that this thread is in dire need of serious activity. ;) 

 

12 hours ago, romance06 said:

 


Right now, the person HR loves the most is his son. His feelings for Yi-Kyung are not strong enough, and then it will never be greater than the love he has for his son. In preview ep11, Ryu will extend the contract for HR, which is a gap enabling to develop HR/SDC’s feelings for Yi-Kyung, besides maybe the memories of SDC and his wife will be reminded.

 

 

Right. I think it's largely one-sided at the moment. HR has got so much baggage that he's lugging around that he can't really think too much about getting involved with anyone romantically. Whether or not he loves Lucca, it's hard to say from my perspective. It could be guilt driving the whole thing. Guilt that he wasn't there for Lucca and guilt that if he had been around, perhaps the lad wouldn't be so desperate to find his father in SK and exacerbate his health issues. 

 

I am still not 100% convinced that Lucca is HR's son for a number of reasons particularly because the mother has been strangely quiet about it. She hasn't said anything to confirm or deny it. Plus she's not especially weirded out that HR is SDC's son. Were they ever married? That's not clear to me. Of course I could be overthinking things... which wouldn't be the first time, of course. ;) When I said this to the husband he immediately suggested that LCR could be the father which really wasn't what I had in mind. It's possible I suppose and what's interesting is that his mind went in that direction but mine didn't. :D 

 

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Unlike everyone I'm not too worried about YG. She always manages to bounce back and mentally she's in a much healthier place than HR who is one huge emotional mess. Despite her previous notoriety, some of it generated by this demon, she's gaining commercial and critical success inching towards her dream. Besides she has her own guardian angel (or whatever Mr Fishcake Stall happens to be) so she'll be alright. There's also fighter in her which I expect will come more to the fore. HR's the one who needs to develop a spine and not let the devil push him around so much. He's too blinded by guilt and fear to think and see straight. Why should he worry about the demon killing or smoking him... why hasn't he done it already... it seems to me that Ryu needs just as much as or more than HR needs him. All HR has to do is to think through things carefully to see that he has some leverage.

 

@Anonymous :) I agree with what you wrote in your post about SDC. I think he was so abused as a youngster that he still doesn't know how to stand up for himself. Although he acts resentful and angry when things happen, it isn't a sign of strength but of weakness. He reacts and schemes according to other people's dictates rather than carve out his own way of dealing with the mess. Just look at the way he dealt with LCR when they were still a band and how he deals with YG's independent streak. Despite all that, I find him pitiful. 

 

Personally I think that Ryu is a fraud on some level. I'm waiting for someone to call his bluff. The more I see of him, the more I think he's not the tough guy he pretends to be.

 

@peachfuzz While it's good to reflect on other viewpoints, this is just a piece of fiction and I'm sure rooting for the leads as a possible romance is not a sin. ;)

I enjoy their moments together and I think the chemistry's improving. Whether we'll see a romantic happily-ever-after scenario for them... I can't say but I'm fine with whatever comes.

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I  hv been so busy that I am finally catching up. :sweatingbullets:. I am up to Wednesday’s eps ..gonna watch Thursday’s shortly 

 

You know what I love about this drama-  it’s Ha Rip or rather SDC’s journey . The man needs closure . Ha Rip isn’t the most likeable person but I feel his pain. I attribute this to JKH’s interpretation of his character. Guilt, bitterness , anger , regret , desperation. All very negative emotions but JKH does them perfectly  . As SDC he was a gifted man who loved his craft but unfortunately ahead of his time . He failed  to get the recognition he wanted & remained the struggling Musician right past his prime .  I had thought he sold his soul for himself , but he did it for someone else. I had struggled to find something that would keep me emotionally invested in earlier episodes but I think this is the hook I was looking for . I wept when he wept realising  who Lucca was . 

 

Was it out of guilt ? Perhaps,  but it doesn’t matter to me because for the 1st time we’ve been shown that SDC has a conscience so to speak. I know he defended Yi Kyung earlier & was her emotional shelter as an abused teenager  , but this was a conscious decision on his part to give something up for someone else . I am sorry though that his moment of weakness - stealing the money -ruined YK’s youth . So I can fully understand his feelings of anger with himself & the great guilt he is experiencing  . It comes out wrongly of course ,especially with his explosive reactions but It is understandable why initially he didn’t  want Kelly to cover his songs . 

 

I think I finally get the main message of the drama . The devil -Ryu kept trying to prove that humans are  scums who are only concerned with themselves. There’s no hope for them .  But as we’ve been shown mankind is capable of change and  compassion . Ryu himself is learning some lessons - humans aren’t as predictable as he thought . There’s this emotion called love which he is experiencing 1st hand  :D that helps us go beyond ourselves & powers us to make the difficult decisions . 

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When the Devil Calls Your Name: Episode 9

by LollyPip

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Our dubious hero is already reeling from some pretty serious revelations about his past life, but the curveballs just keep coming. He’s spent the last ten years maintaining an iron control of his life, and as it unravels, he starts to unravel, as well. He’s not yet ready to let go and trust others, but he may not have much of a choice.

 

 
EPISODE 9 RECAP

 

http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/08/when-the-devil-calls-your-name-episode-9/

 

 

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JKH  brought in his A game for the emotional scenes  in eps 10. I truly wept in the second half - more than the romance, the father  & son  scenes had me rooting for their proper reunion. However, not at the expense of Yi Kyung’s soul.  

 

I was initially  iffy about the romance,  though now  I am not against it . I realised after eps 10 that I am not particularly bothered about the age gap because I feel in this  case she’s the needed catalyst for him to rediscover what it is that hold meaning or is of true value to him . If anything they connect musically - soul mates in that respect . Perhaps possible objections to their romance hv to do with the chemistry not transferring to screen ( at least to me )  , though both actors are great at their roles . 

 

He is sceptical & hardened by bitter experiences. She,  on the other hand,   reminds him about the good in this world ; makes him uncomfortable because her response to the harsh realities are so unexpected. No anger , no hatred , no resentment . (In fact YK is such a perfect angel that I find myself slightly disconnected with the character :sweatingbullets:. ) So that’s why at the end of eps 10 I thought he really needed that hug & I can understand why she could be his micro habitat. Kind of like his emotional guardian angel.  What bothers me more is the love triangle they were trying to bring up . Father & son fighting over the same girl would not be to my taste , though from preview it is unlikely to happen. 

 

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Thank you for reassuring me/telling me that rooting for a romantic relationship between the leads is not a sin! :D I was really feeling like it was a sin. Sometimes, I feel so incredibly aware of others' opinions that I find it really difficult to stand by/voice my true feelings. 

 

HR definitely does have too much going on in his head right now; it makes sense that romance can't be at the forefront of his mind at the moment! The whole thing with HR and Lucca kind of puzzles me for the things you mentioned. HR barely has much of a connection with his son at all, so his concern for Lucca almost throws me off. I can't quite understand it, but I suppose it's because I don't know what it feels like to be a parent... I can't grasp parental love? At least not from HR's perspective? But like you said, is it even love or a heavy dose of guilt with a dash of love? 

 

I too am not completely convinced that Lucca is HR's son! So far, we haven't exactly been given solid evidence that HR is Lucca's father, have we? (I'm forgetful... but I'm relatively confident we haven't because you also don't fully buy that HR is Lucca's father just yet, either). It's mostly just been the characters making assumptions, hasn't it? But maybe we're both overthinking things!... (But since I ship the leads together... I kind of really don't want HR to be Lucca's father...) 

 

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I don't doubt that Yi Kyung will bounce back no matter what happens because she's one heck of a strong person, but I still don't want her to get hurt anymore! :( And especially since she has a thing for HR, I am dying inside at the thought of HR pretty much breaking her heart. She hasn't been surrounded by a whole lot of good people her entire life (like she deserves to be :angry:), and I don't want her heart to be scarred any more than it already has been! Sigh sigh and sigh again! 

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1 hour ago, peachfuzz said:

 

HR definitely does have too much going on in his head right now; it makes sense that romance can't be at the forefront of his mind at the moment! The whole thing with HR and Lucca kind of puzzles me for the things you mentioned. HR barely has much of a connection with his son at all, so his concern for Lucca almost throws me off. I can't quite understand it, but I suppose it's because I don't know what it feels like to be a parent... I can't grasp parental love? At least not from HR's perspective? But like you said, is it even love or a heavy dose of guilt with a dash of love? 

 

 

 

I agree... which is why I think it's guilt that's primarily motivating HR. They just haven't had a lot of time together to have actually formed a bond. HR didn't even really like Lucca to begin with and now he's sitting at his bedside singing cute daddy songs to him.

Unless of course they're implying that paternal love comes naturally and easily. ;) When the chips are down, dads rise to the occasion. Maybe. Maybe not.

The case for Lucca being SDC's son is strong but it's largely implied through the juxtaposition of certain scenes. Still I can't help being suspicious. And mum's keeping mum.

 

Of course I am only speculating and overthinking things because it feels that nothing is really simple in this show. We thought that HR was motivated by greed for success initially so he signed the contract. But apparently that wasn't it. Then there's the sorry saga of YG and her stepdad. I suspected that was more to that and so there was... but things played out differently to what I had thought.

 

I don't discount the possibility that the only straightforward thing in this show is Lucca's paternity ;) but the empiricist in me needs a DNA test. :P Perhaps Lucca is right. Life is like a Korean drama. :D Anyway 6 episodes is a long time in Kdramaland so anything can happen. It would be an exceedingly cruel joke though to do that to HR but it's the devil we're talking about. And he has serious daddy issues. 

 

1 hour ago, peachfuzz said:

 

I too am not completely convinced that Lucca is HR's son! So far, we haven't exactly been given solid evidence that HR is Lucca's father, have we? (I'm forgetful... but I'm relatively confident we haven't because you also don't fully buy that HR is Lucca's father just yet, either). It's mostly just been the characters making assumptions, hasn't it? But maybe we're both overthinking things!... (But since I ship the leads together... I kind of really don't want HR to be Lucca's father...) 

 

 

Well yes, there's that too. It would be certainly pushing the bounds of a modern taboo. :lol: Though it wouldn't be the first time a woman was caught between father and son in reality or in fiction. A case in point: I recently watched Oh My General... a gender bender boundary pushing C drama... and that is exactly what happened in one of the subplots. 

However, it would have happened in the old days if and when older men married much younger women especially among the nobility. I've seen it in more than one historical drama.

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When the Devil Calls Your Name: Episode 10

by LollyPip

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They say you have to hit rock bottom before you can start to climb back up again, but nobody ever talks about what a cruel place rock bottom can be. It’s no wonder that a soul-hungry demon has so many souls to choose from, because desperate people are willing to make desperate bargains. But when one’s soul has already been sold, there’s nothing left to bargain with when tragedy strikes and a life-or-death decision has to be made.

 

 
EPISODE 10 RECAP

http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/08/when-the-devil-calls-your-name-episode-10/

 

 

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If I remember correctly, there was a paragraph in the first few episodes, HR was determined not to take YG's soul (or anyone's), he accepted Ryu to take his soul away, but Ryu insisted forcing HR to find a senior soul and threaten to revoke SDC's first aspiration. (the life of his son).

Since HR met YG he has different emotions such as guilt, bitterness, anger, regret ... (@triplem: I really love these words). However, whether HR always feels guilty for ruining YG's life or sometimes being touched by YG's affection for SDC, he is always alert to pursue his plans, he have to take the soul of YG to protect the first aspiration.

 

Before Lucca was ill, HR/SDC had 10 years of searching for his son when he saw the boy only once in the hospital, with his face unknown. HR always says Ryu is a fraud because HR can't find his son, but HR still tries to follow Ryu's request. This proves that SDC/HR really loves his son, although he is not aware yet. Perhaps he thought simply it was necessary for his responsibility and to reduce guilt.

When HR found out Lucca was his seriously ill son, the son quietly returned to Korea to look for him, beside SDC/HR was performing his best on stage by SDC's song in the cheers and cheers of the audience. A successful HR is in danger of fading, and an SDC that failed 10 years ago nobody cares about his music is being applauded by thousands of people. SDC suddenly realized that his passion for the recognition of his music was an illusion. Because he chose to live selfishly for music, he hurt his relatives. So after the performance, the weary HR came into the backstage, every happy and painful memory was recalled. HR / SDC had to be so painful that he was sick all week, and he apologizes to his ex-wife in a coma (I watched this episode ep 9 many times but I still didn't understand it until the end of ep 10).

 

Ryu used to say "Don't assume that I did everything. In the human world, you bring more things upon yourselves". By the end of episode 10, I wondered if SDC understood this. In the past, if SDC had chosen his family, maybe he would not fail, without selling his soul to the devil to get the most important aspiration.

 

Now I wonder if Ryu is gradually being moved by the heartfelt love of SDC / HR for his son when HR is at the peak of success and accepting to give up his own life to save his son. Or Ryu consider this selfish sentiment of SDC which SDC want to take YG's soul as another reason to justify human selfish greed.

 

I'm writing rambling but I'm honestly very happy to read and share my thoughts in this forum.

 

 

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Watching the last 2 episodes, made me binge watching the whole thing  again :rolleyes:. I find SDC so  pitiful, always a loner, no family nor friends. Even when he had fallen in love , he let her go, thinking he was sparing her his failure and hitting rock bottom ( failing at providing good life for her and the self shame of not succeeding till almost his 50s. It may be perceived as cowardness  &selfness , which it was somehow . But for him it was his punishment, immersing himself in his failing music alone ). People tend to think loners are just introverts or even anti-society,  pushing people away, but in the contrary most of them yearn for connection, recognition and human presence, yet keep their distance and feelings in check from the surface. Sensitive, piling their feelings , can't express them in healthy ways almost comes to hurtful. But when they fell they fell hard, care the most, and express through actions which speak louder than words.  Most of them become transparent as persons, we all had this one person in class  whom we have never seen him speak or can't even remember if he was in our class :ph34r:. They can excel in their craft or passion or work on personal level but plummet professionally because they cannot blend or attract the right kind of attention.  Many artists gained recognition and fame posthumously , were judged before as troubled or weirdos typically loners. Hence their work was seen through someone else , someone who is not transparent as  they were, so their legacy shines. You can see the difference when SDC was on the stage performing , the crowd was dead but during his band mate's performance girls were screaming at the top of their lungs, although it was SDC's song. when SDC  gave in to the devil, he gave up the connection to the 3 pure and genuine grains of himself (Love , true music and tenacity ), meanwhile the devil fed on  his eagerness  to be seen , recognized and to succeed .

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tVN posted this MV

Oooo . Ryu’s Aboji came to the operating theatre . So what will Lucca’a fate be? 

 

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hi chingus :) i just jumped onto this wagon after HDL ended.. currently at ep8..

 

like how Ryu is curious about the newfound feelings (other than the greed and hatred) in humans and also, his confusion in the heart pounding moments with SY :lol: their scenes really add a lot more fun and chuckles than the main leads.. he did blame Manager Kang regarding the human body he inhabited the previous round where the man had some second family and complicating stuffs.. i’m surprised its only this time on MTK body that he experiences love.

 

as for HR and YJ.. seriously, if it was the elderly SDC then YJ would have regarded him as a fatherly figure.. but read from dramabeans that they almost kissed?! :crazy: please, NO!! (in case there are HRYJ shippers here, dun strangle me!)

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Na Da Reum makes a special appearance on tvN drama When the Devil calls Your Name.

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, larus said:

Na Da Reum makes a special appearance on tvN drama When the Devil calls your name

He will play Ryu when he still was an angle. Interesting, we will see a new face of cutie baby Dareum.

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Looks like Luca is alright but what happened to SDC? He aged again & he has to avoid seeing YK

Preview

 

 

 

NDR as Ryu 

 

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7 hours ago, triplem said:

Looks like Luca is alright but what happened to SDC? He aged again & he has to avoid seeing YK

 

The Devil's way of giving HR an incentive or strengthen his resolve in honoring the contract.  Reminding him of what is at stake and one of the reasons why he sign it in the first place.

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i have to agree with Ryu that humans are selfish most of the time.. the devil only throws in a spark but its the human choice that leads to the resulting consequences :naughty: HR has been conveniently pointing fingers blaming the devil for this and that.. see how YJ has been enduring and surviving.. her positive attitude pushes her further for the better despite the unfairness and cruelty in life she has to bear with since young..

 

so its been revealed that KH is a judge who has lost his memory, not a guardian angel..

 

still waiting for the eng subs for last evening’s epi.. can’t wait to see NDR appearance! haha he first appeared as a deity in HDL and now angel (turn devil)  :tounge_xd:

 

@Ameera Ali i saw u here!! we need to spark the lives of chingus in this thread!! the story is interesting but the forum participation is slow!!!

 

 

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We need a side by side of that wannabe first grade soul pop star and IG for an imitation vs reality meme

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