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[Drama 2018-2019] Move Over, Fate /Get Out of the Way, Fate, 비켜라 운명아

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I finally got to watch E20.  Interesting.  Things are moving along at a steady pace, and now NJ and SH have laid it out in the open that they will be going up against each other.  Good that we won't have to see NJ being unnecessarily polite to SH and making it annoying for us.

 

I find it interesting that, NJ is quite well-read, though he is a village handyman.  He asks if a profound-sounding line from SJ was from Descartes!  Later he mentions "Joan of Arc" (which is said as "Jandareuk" in Korea, twisting the French version in a weird way).  The hug outside his house was very nice!!

 

JA still doesn't know that NJ is the newly found grandson, An Nam Jin.  She only knows that NJ was a caregiver/secretary for the chairman as of now. It will be interesting to see her reaction when she finds out. 

 

On 11/30/2018 at 5:35 AM, sava2sava said:

It seens NJ maybe pulling a top designer into the company that SH and SW will wonder how did he manage that.. Maybe she's already well known but something we will find out about..

 

I assume you are taking about what was seen right at the very end in the preview for E21.  The subbed version of E20 that I saw did not give the name that NJ said at the .  He actually said a name also, which sounded like "SunHui" or "SeonHui" before he asked, "you had worked in the design office?".  Isn't that the name of the daughter that the Ajussi is looking for?  Could this be the Ajussi's daughter or something?  But all these names are confusing.  SiU, SuHui, SunHui, SunJa, SeungJu...

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49 minutes ago, jayakris said:

I finally got to watch E20.  Interesting.  Things are moving along at a steady pace, and now NJ and SH have laid it out in the open that they will be going up against each other.  Good that we won't have to see NJ being unnecessarily polite to SH and making it annoying for us.

 

I find it interesting that, NJ is quite well-read, though he is a village handyman.  He asks if a profound-sounding line from SJ was from Descartes!  Later he mentions "Joan of Arc" (which is said as "Jandareuk" in Korea, twisting the French version in a weird way).  The hug outside his house was very nice!!

 

JA still doesn't know that NJ is the newly found grandson, An Nam Jin.  She only knows that NJ was a caregiver/secretary for the chairman as of now. It will be interesting to see her reaction when she finds out. 

 

 

I assume you are taking about what was seen right at the very end in the preview for E21.  The subbed version of E20 that I saw did not give the name that NJ said at the .  He actually said a name also, which sounded like "SunHui" or "SeonHui" before he asked, "you had worked in the design office?".  Isn't that the name of the daughter that the Ajussi is looking for?  Could this be the Ajussi's daughter or something?  But all these names are confusing.  SiU, SuHui, SunHui, SunJa, SeungJu...

I honesty think she is pretty dumb not to know or put it together, she seen him walk with him and he has you know the SAME name as the grandson, come on lol

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Just now, dramaninja said:

I honesty think she is pretty dumb not to know or put it together, she seen him walk with him and he has you know the SAME name as the grandson, come on lol

That's because she never regard NJ as a worthy person - so she would never think that NJ would ever make it past where he was in the village.  I, too wants to see the look on her face once she finds out the guy she labeled as her 'stalker which she is tired of' is one of the owners of the company she's working at.

 

@jayakris-the name does sound familiar, really!!  Must be the ahjussi's long lost daughter.

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The preview blurb for E21 - 승주(서효림)는 선규(강두)를 위해 시우(강태성)에게 돈을 꿔달라는 연실(유지연)과 갈등을 빚는다. 남진(박윤재)은 디자이너를 구하기 위해 뛰어다니던 중 순자(이종남)가 입고 있는 원피스에 꽂히는데...

Translation: SJ comes into conflict with YS who begs for money from SU for her brother's sake.  As he is running around to gather designers, NJ is struck by the one-piece that YSJ is wearing.

 

A bit weird.  NJ's mom wearing a one-piece??  ... Maybe SJ made some crazy dress for her?

 

1 hour ago, dramaninja said:

I honesty think she is pretty dumb not to know or put it together, she seen him walk with him and he has you know the SAME name as the grandson, come on lol

 

I can understand her confusion, though.  For somebody who has known NJ for such a long time, since childhood, she just won't be able to think that he can be the chairman's grandson.  She is not going to believe it, even if somebody were to tell her that the chairman's caregiver/secretary was his grandson.  She would still only think that there must be some other caregiver than the one she saw escorting the chairman.  She can only take it as some weird coincidence of there being another NamJin around.  Until she hears it from NJ or his mom about what happened here, she won't believe it.  That is how long she has known NJ.

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46 minutes ago, jayakris said:

The preview blurb for E21 - 승주(서효림)는 선규(강두)를 위해 시우(강태성)에게 돈을 꿔달라는 연실(유지연)과 갈등을 빚는다. 남진(박윤재)은 디자이너를 구하기 위해 뛰어다니던 중 순자(이종남)가 입고 있는 원피스에 꽂히는데...

Translation: SJ comes into conflict with YS who begs for money from SU for her brother's sake.  As he is running around to gather designers, NJ is struck by the one-piece that YSJ is wearing.

 

A bit weird.  NJ's mom wearing a one-piece??  ... Maybe SJ made some crazy dress for her?

 

 

I can understand her confusion, though.  For somebody who has known NJ for such a long time, since childhood, she just won't be able to think that he can be the chairman's grandson.  She is not going to believe it, even if somebody were to tell her that the chairman's caregiver/secretary was his grandson.  She would still only think that there must be some other caregiver than the one she saw escorting the chairman.  She can only take it as some weird coincidence of there being another NamJin around.  Until she hears it from NJ or his mom about what happened here, she won't believe it.  That is how long she has known NJ.

Whats funny she would have knew all of this if she actually spoke to him, also he needed someone to talk to after his grandpa died, good thing SJ seems to be always there for him like he has been for her.

 

 

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6 hours ago, jayakris said:

I assume you are taking about what was seen right at the very end in the preview for E21.  The subbed version of E20 that I saw did not give the name that NJ said at the .  He actually said a name also, which sounded like "SunHui" or "SeonHui" before he asked, "you had worked in the design office?".  Isn't that the name of the daughter that the Ajussi is looking for?  Could this be the Ajussi's daughter or something?  But all these names are confusing.  SiU, SuHui, SunHui, SunJa, SeungJu...

@jayakris  Don't you think she looks a lil to old to be his daughter.. Maybe JA roommate will turn out to be his daughter..Now that would be interesting..Wil she also turn her back on her Dad in order to help Sw If he turns out to be her Dad..

 

5 hours ago, dramaninja said:

I honesty think she is pretty dumb not to know or put it together, she seen him walk with him and he has you know the SAME name as the grandson, come on lol

@dramaninja  She knows she just hasn't put it together or she's playing dumb..How else would Sw knows she knows Nj.. Well it won't be long before she makes Nj looks like a damned fool..

 

5 hours ago, viyra said:

That's because she never regard NJ as a worthy person - so she would never think that NJ would ever make it past where he was in the village.  I, too wants to see the look on her face once she finds out the guy she labeled as her 'stalker which she is tired of' is one of the owners of the company she's working at.

 

@viyra  This is how she's going to flip the script on Nj He's not going to have a clue that she works for that other team.. She's going to use all of hizs ideas against him.. His emotions for her is going to take a hard it he'll have no other choice but to see her for who she really is.. That nice sweet image he has of her will be shattered.. He'll then see what his adopted Mom b een saying about her all the time.. TBH I think she do know it's him and your right she only sees him as the small time village boy that she can run back to if she can't find a better Man to take care of her..

 

3 hours ago, dramaninja said:

Whats funny she would have knew all of this if she actually spoke to him, also he needed someone to talk to after his grandpa died, good thing SJ seems to be always there for him like he has been for her.

 

It's still going to take NJ dumb but a minute to figure it out.. He's going to be in denial it's going to be hard for him to accept she has no interest in him never have and never would.. JA will have to paint the picture for him and hang it on the wall before bhe really gets it.. I think once he sees she likes Sw it's going to light a fire in his but to do better and be better because he'll think he still have a chance to be with her.. Sw will use JA against NJ but what he will fail to realizes his weakness for her will be the motivation to push forward hard and strong and this is how he will become the winner.. Also JA needs that contest money to start paying back her Dads debts she's not going to let a thing called friendship stand in her way..Be it Nj or anyone..

 

4 hours ago, jayakris said:

Translation: SJ comes into conflict with YS who begs for money from SU for her brother's sake.  As he is running around to gather designers, NJ is struck by the one-piece that YSJ is wearing.

@jayakris  Wow what is this.. Ys has the nerve to go ask Sw for money for her brother.. This is getting real interesting.. Sw is going to give her the option get those stocks from MS and then he'll help her.. Wonder what will Ms think about all of this.. He already apologized to SJ for trying to force her into a marriage with no love and now she has caught YS asking SW for money to save her sorry brother.. Maybe this is when SJ will find out what type of crisis this company is really facing and decides to move back home only to find YS sorry brother is also living there.. Boy just thinking about it sound like a really fun watch coming up because she's going to want him out.. Right along with the sister.. She's going to tell her Dad I told you so especially when she finds out how much money he has stole from that company she's going to want him in jail..

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17 hours ago, sava2sava said:
On 12/1/2018 at 1:26 PM, jayakris said:

I assume you are taking about what was seen right at the very end in the preview for E21.  The subbed version of E20 that I saw did not give the name that NJ said at the .  He actually said a name also, which sounded like "SunHui" or "SeonHui" before he asked, "you had worked in the design office?".  Isn't that the name of the daughter that the Ajussi is looking for?  Could this be the Ajussi's daughter or something?  But all these names are confusing.  SiU, SuHui, SunHui, SunJa, SeungJu...

@jayakris  Don't you think she looks a lil to old to be his daughter.. Maybe JA roommate will turn out to be his daughter..Now that would be interesting..Wil she also turn her back on her Dad in order to help Sw If he turns out to be her Dad..

 

Did we see the lady, to say that?  You are not confusing her with the lady whom the lawyer suggested, that NJ met at the factory, are you?  That lady is Kim Yun Hui.  The one to whom NJ speaking in the preview seems to be a "SunHui".  Not sure who she is, but we only see the edge of her head from the backside, in the preview.  She does not seem to have the black hair of the lady he met at the factory.   Actually, though the subbers took it as NJ speaking to this new lady, it could also be somebody else who suggested the name of the woman, and not the woman herself (it is not clear in the sentence NJ says) - but most probably he is talking to the person in question itself.... Anyway, we need to wait and see what this is all about.

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I know the Mods will probably edit and combine this with the previous post from a day before on a different topuc, though I wish Soompi will let them have discretion... Oh well...

 

Recap of E21 Part-1 (up to 17:40)

 

Some guy at the office, who seems honest and strict, catches a team-boss for using the corporate card for some small expense. The boss guy isn't happy with it.  It seems NJ has been told about this good guy, and he takes him out for a meal.  That dude is also somebody in the lay-off list (so he also has only 1 year, as the layoffs are postponed). He asks if NJ is confident of winning this contest. NJ says no, but as somebody with nothing to lose, there is nothing to fear! So NJ seems to convince him to join.

 

SJ seems to be at her her dad's company (where she must have worked, before going abroad... EDIT: No, this is a design office of some Mall, where she did part-time work, as we see later in the episode). She is on the phone, seemingly asking YSJ to tell her how to make some food to help her dad's blood pressure problem.  She asks the lady if she can take a dress there.  The lady says "it's your design, so of course!". There is some brand copy issue, so the item can't be sold though.  I think she can't get copyright on it...

 

Mr. Jang seems to be putting the team together with SU, who suggests JA for inclusion. Mr. Jang is in favor, and says JA reminds him of how SH was, when she started. He suggests JA's room mate (Yeon Ji) also to SU and tells him that she did a good job with that report earlier (but SU guesses that JA did that for her). SU agrees.

 

SH calls the grand-uncle and asks to meet. Mr. Jang brings her some coffee. She asks how such a  smashing guy is still single. "Are you... perhaps...?"  Now he understands that she is doubting his sexual orientation, and says, "no, no" (Oh.. that means she has never slept with him.  There goes another of our suspicions! The drama probably has no intention of going back to the old stories anymore).  Then she says there is nothing wrong in it.  She has heard of some famous woman in New York who has a gay boyfriend. He says that may be all fine, but he isn't gay. "You know you are the reason why I stayed single so far!". Just light talk (but this cleared up some things for us).  He tells her that JA and YJ are in Team-1.  She has to leave.  An Nam Jin is making her busy.

 

CJ and NJ are trying to put the Team-2 together. One designer woman comes in, and NJ catches her for copying some Italian design. CJ asks if Ajussi could use his contacts from his time in the sewing industry but NJ is doubtful. Ajussi comes in saying that the designer he talked to, is caught in trouble for copying a market brand. NJ gets an idea that there must be good designers among the market item designers (I suppose "non-brand" designers? Not sure). NJ and Ajussi leaves. The lawyer is happy, talking in his mind to the late chairman that his grandson is doing things just as they hoped.

 

SJ gives that dress she designed, to YSJ.  She says she did some part-time work with an older friend at a mall. She has brought a nice muffler too. YSJ feels she has become Audrey Hepburn, looking at the mirror that SJ holds for her. She asks for SJ's to help in some clothes shopping, day after tomorrow. They go into the kitchen and YSJ has already made the beetroot kimchi and all that. YSJ says she will make things anytime SJ wants as she is her life-saver. Butler Heo asks how so, and she tells her the asthma story.

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   SJ blowing the whistle in the preview ,she got into some trouble with some tough ladies

 

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Ep 21 Recap part-2 (17:40 onwards)

 

Ajussi and NJ find an item in the market that they like.  The lady says it is a copy item. Ajussi asks for the shopping mall where the original is sold.

 

MS tells his assistant that they have bought some time. The assistant says the amount in question is pretty big. SH comes in. She asks if it is because of NJ that SJ broke things off. MS is surprised when she says SJ was out with NJ, but then he remembers SJ saying that there is somebody who is 100 times better than SU. He shows it on his face, and SH catches him. "So you knew, huh?".  She says okay, they will then cancel the engagement.  "But there is a condition. Pass on the shares you have in HK to SiU". If he does that, the engagement is off and he can stay as a contractor to HK for a year.  (Huh? Who is she to say that? I think she is duping the guy). He asks for more time, and she leaves.  MS gets a headache from blood-pressure and he leaves in a taxi. J comes there, and the assistant tells her that he wasn't feeling well.

 

SJ goes home and overhears YS pestering MS about when SG will get out of detention. MS says there isn't much he can do. YS asks, "You need to go somewhere and do something. How can you just come home like this?". SJ asks what is going on about this SG business. YS explains that her brother, "I mean, your uncle", is in detention. YS asks SJ if she can request SU for help in this, and lend some money (so she didn't beg SU but asked SJ to do that). SJ puts her in her place, calling her "ajumma" and saying that she has no such "uncle".

 

SH tries to butter the grand-uncle's palms, reminding him of his distance from the chairman. This time he shows his puzzlement that his brother bought into the company a grandson from the village who knew nothing about the business. SH says that's why she wants to make SU the CEO.  She has a proposal to the grand-uncle. Offer his shares to SU for him to be made the CEO (removing the interim CEO), and she will give the grand-uncle some subsidiary companies. He says it doesn't sound too bad, but asks if that is enough.  She says it will be enough, as they will have the MinHan shares also. The old man says he now fully understands her ambition and why his brother kept her at arm's length.  But he agrees to think it over for a few days, and wants this proposal in writing. He feels he is old enough not to keep those shares.

 

The staff at the design office is wondering when the Team-1 announcement will be made. YJ gets an SMS and finds that DaeSik's video from the restaurant has gone viral and he is a star now (20K likes on the video, as we see!!).

 

YSJ is enjoying the "one-piece" and NJ comes with the Ajussi.  The ajussi thinks she looks more like Sophia Loren that Audrey Hepburn. Sexy and all. They find that the dress is just what they saw at the market. YSJ says that this was personally designed by SeungJu.  NJ: "What? SeungJu designed this one-piece?" (Aha, so the sound recording and background music in the preview got the subbers and me both messed up last week!  They thought it was "you designed this?" and I heard the name as SunHui.  The word "one-piece" sounded like "office" too... So the whole thing got all screwed up. We didn't have to make all those guesses on who the designer was, and if it was the Ajussi's daughter and all that.  It was none other than our SJ!!).  NJ calls SJ and asks to meet right away at a cafe.

 

DS is a big star at the restaurant. The restaurant owner offers him food (grilled pork!) for a year or something like that.  DS goes to JA's place and sees SU dropping JA and telling her that she is in his team.  DS runs in and asks "who are you?" and SU asks the same thing back. DS: "I am JA's husband!".  [THE END]

 

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A note on the copyright issue on the "one-piece":  It looks like SJ had designed that dress while working part time with her senior at the Mall.  But the Mall probably couldn't sell it because others copied it and started selling it in the market.  I think that is the copy issue.  Not a case of SJ's design being in copyright violation, but the mall pulling it because of somebody else copying it.  Hope I haven't got this wrong.

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Oh well, Lollipop Boy finally found his wife - so now the real battle of the big head begins!!!  So, what do you say JA?  How are you going to explain the 'wifey' thing to conceited SiU?:lol::lol:

 

As for MS, I hope he doesn't just give in  to the demand/trick of SH - this is the time  for him to reconcile or listen to his daughter.  He didn't listen to her about YS before marrying her so I hope he does this  time because this concerns his livelihood.  And I also hope he don't pressure SJ  on marrying SiU.  On the other hand, SiU already told  his mother he didn't want to get involved in a forced marriage - so that one is out the window - but not for SH.

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Preview blurb for E21, from KBS - 승주(서효림)는 다른 학생들에게 괴롭힘을 당하는 여학생을 구하려다 위기에 처하고, 남진(박윤재)을 떠올리며 호루라기를 분다. 진아(진예솔)는 차갑게 변한 시우(강태성)의 태도에 상처를 받는데...

Translation: As SJ gets into danger when she tries to save a girl student who was being bullied by other students, she blows the whistle, recalling what NJ said.  JA is hurt by SU's attitude that has turned cold.

 

 

20 minutes ago, viyra said:

Oh well, Lollipop Boy finally found his wife - so now the real battle of the big head begins!!!  So, what do you say JA?  How are you going to explain the 'wifey' thing to conceited SiU?:lol::lol:

 

Looks like she doesn't manage to explain it away easily, seeing the preview that SU is cold to her now.  Serves her right.

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6 hours ago, dramaninja said:

She should have never gave that dude false hope that was stupid.

 

Yeah, and she should have told SU about what happened to her, too.  I guess she didn't want to bring out her poor background, but that was a mistake too.  Now she will find that she has lost both SU and NJ.  Hopefully SU will get back to her soon, rather than force her to move towards NJ - whom she will find an attractive option once she finds out that he is the chairman's grandson.  But then again, she probably doesn't respect NJ's abilities and might stick to working on SU, thinking NJ will lose this contest anyway.

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7 hours ago, viyra said:

Oh well, Lollipop Boy finally found his wife - so now the real battle of the big head begins!!!  So, what do you say JA?  How are you going to explain the 'wifey' thing to conceited SiU?:lol::lol:

 

As for MS, I hope he doesn't just give in  to the demand/trick of SH - this is the time for him to reconcile or listen to his daughter.  He didn't listen to her about YS before marrying her so I hope he does this  time because this concerns his livelihood.  And I also hope he don't pressure SJ  on marrying SiU.  On the other hand, SiU already told  his mother he didn't want to get involved in a forced marriage - so that one is out the window - but not for SH.

@viyra  They really underestimated NJ.. SH thinks by giving those shares over will secure Sw future those shares wil go to SJ and SH will think SJ will be on Sw team but those shares wil be with SJ and NJ.. SH won't even see this coming.. Sw will go looking for SJ again talking about marriage but NJ will come to her rescue and help bail out her Dad..

 

Loved it when lollipop boy told Sw Ja is my wife :w00t: Now she should feel really stupid for telling Sw that Nj was a stalker..When she already has a husband:wub:

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1 hour ago, sava2sava said:

@viyra  They really underestimated NJ.. SH thinks by giving those shares over will secure Sw future those shares wil go to SJ and SH will think SJ will be on Sw team but those shares wil be with SJ and NJ.. SH won't even see this coming.. Sw will go looking for SJ again talking about marriage but NJ will come to her rescue and help bail out her Dad..

 

Loved it when lollipop boy told Sw Ja is my wife :w00t: Now she should feel really stupid for telling Sw that Nj was a stalker..When she already has a husband:wub:

If NJ is a stalker, then how is she going to label DS?

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1 hour ago, viyra said:

If NJ is a stalker, then how is she going to label DS?

It don't matter to Sw which label she gives to him because she didn't retract or say a word when DS said that JA is my wife.. Now she's getting the cold shoulder from him.. I want to see what she'll try and pull when she sees NJ fighting against Sw.. She's going to fall right into the wrong click and probably get kick out with the rest of them when that time comes.. 

 

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Ep 22 Recap, part 1 (till 15.35)

 

JA slaps DS and tells him, "don't say a word, or it's over". The way she reacted, without objecting to his claim of being the husband seems not to go unnoticed by SU who says with a very annoyed look - "You seem to be an interesting person. A stalker... and now even a husband!". She tried to say that she had a situation that she can explain. SU leaves saying there is no need. He has no interest in other people's complicated situations. He will just see her at work.

 

DS tries to give JA some food in a bag, but she tells tells him that if he gets caught with her again, she will really go kill herself.  She goes in and tells YJ that she doesn't want to see DS anywhere near their place anymore. YJ tries to tell her that DS is a sweet guy but it's of no use.

 

SJ is going to the place where NJ had asked her to meet him, wondering why he called to meet this late. She tries to speak up for a girl who is being bullied by three other students and gets into trouble.  She starts blowing the whistle. Haha!  And here comes the knight in shining arms (pinstripe suit, actually!).  The girls run away by the time NJ gets there.  They took the bullied girl to SJ's place and put ointment on her injuries.  When SJ asks why she hasn't told her parents, she says her step-mom doesn't care and that her dad is too busy with his own business.  They comfort the girl, and the girl is all touched.  They get ready to take the girl to her place. NJ wants to still talk to SJ after that.  SJ wonders what there is to talk about.

 

SU is all mad about JA and DS, back in his room. Time for some whiskey. Mom asks what the deal is. He laments about how poor he is in judging people, without telling about JA. She asks him to just leave aside whoever it is, and he says he has decided to do that. SH tell him that the grand-uncle has asked for some time, but she thinks he will give his shares.

 

SJ tells NJ that the "one-piece" was her design. She had designed quite a few like that for the mall. She says she is so frustrated about the market copies of her designs. He asks why they can't sell her designs. It's because others can do it cheaper with cheaper fabrics and no design fee etc. Why not take legal steps, he asks. She says that legal steps will take a year and that is too slow for the fashion market.  He asks her to join his team as the chief designer.  She asks how he could decide after seeing just one design. He shows all the designs by her that he has pictures of. He had gone to the mall and found out already!  He gives praise on her designs and tells her that he wants many people to wear the dresses she designs and smile like his mom did. SJ: "Are you hiring me now?"... NJ: "Yes, you're right. I'm hiring you".

 

But then SJ says she is very thankful, but can't do it.  She doesn't want to get involved with HK anymore. She worries about what SU and SH will think if she were to join his team, right after breaking things off with SU. She says she can introduce other designers for him. NJ is not biting though. SJ is also worried that she isn't experienced enough to beat SU's team. NJ: "To be frank, I'm not thinking of getting a win".  She asks why he is even doing it then.  He wants to do it for those who believe in him.  It's for those honest HK workers too. So SJ just has to be there with him. NJ: "You're for ever my Joan of Arc, you know!" ... She is coming around - "I will think about it. But you better not count on it, okay?"... NJ says if she is with him, he thinks he can win it, but won't regret it even if they lose.

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