[Mainland Chinese Drama 2019] The Untamed 陈情令

[bluehibiscus]

1 hour ago, ichaicha said:

 

thank you for your explain

no, i'm still want xiao zhan play WWX. i just confused, some people said he doesnt looked like WWX.

i mean, is he died after the fall? where is he in 13 years?

 

Yes, he died. Mo Xuanyu gave up his body to WWX’s spirit in exchange for WWX taking revenge on his behalf. It was never explained what happened to his spirit during all those years. He doesn’t remember anything.

[GiaGia]

where can I buy online the Untamed osts cd?? Thanks^^, or Chinese legit cd drama, website??

[bluehibiscus]

2 hours ago, rosierosie said:

where can I buy online the Untamed osts cd?? Thanks^^, or Chinese legit cd drama, website??

 Official store on Taobao

https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=607408857486&spm=a21wu.10013511.3.1

 

[bluehibiscus]

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[Bea]

8 hours ago, ichaicha said:

just ended watch the drama. really love kind this story.

but can anyone help me solve the confusing?

1. where is wei wuxian when he is fall from the abyss?

2. why wei wuxian face not change after mo sacrifice his body?

3. what happen when wei wuxian fall from wen chao?

i hope i can really read the original story with english.

 

first i watch wang yibo drama Gank Your Heart and his acting really good, in this drama i can't calculate his acting.

but i think he is really good pair with male more than female.

@ichaicha @bluehibiscus The drama is different than the novel and other adaptations. In Chinese dramas and movies, it is prohibited to show reincarnation into someone else's body or something of the sort, so they changed it. he doesn't reincarnate into Mo Xuanyu's body. They never explain it but we can assume MXY gave up his body and life force to bring back Wei Wuxian's body and spirit. It's why WWX used the mask to hide his face in the drama. So he wouldn't be recognized. I wasn't sure about this either until someone told me and then i read the guidelines of what is prohibited :/ 

[bluehibiscus]

45 minutes ago, Bea said:

@ichaicha @bluehibiscus The drama is different than the novel and other adaptations. In Chinese dramas and movies, it is prohibited to show reincarnation into someone else's body or something of the sort, so they changed it. he doesn't reincarnate into Mo Xuanyu's body. They never explain it but we can assume MXY gave up his body and life force to bring back Wei Wuxian's body and spirit. It's why WWX used the mask to hide his face in the drama. So he wouldn't be recognized. I wasn't sure about this either until someone told me and then i read the guidelines of what is prohibited :/ 

 

Oh really, I hadn’t realised. I knew they had made some changes to get past the censors but I just assumed this particular part followed the novel storyline as they didn’t really go into any specifics. I am still somewhat confused by the “ghosts don’t exist” premise although I heard it is a taboo for the censors. Aren’t spirits of the dead considered ghosts?

 

Where can one read the guidelines of what is prohibited?

 

[Bea]

55 minutes ago, bluehibiscus said:

 

Oh really, I hadn’t realised. I knew they had made some changes to get past the censors but I just assumed this particular part followed the novel storyline as they didn’t really go into any specifics. I am still somewhat confused by the “ghosts don’t exist” premise although I heard it is a taboo for the censors. Aren’t spirits of the dead considered ghosts?

 

Where can one read the guidelines of what is prohibited?

 

 

@bluehibiscus Yes, I wondered why they added the mask in the first place to cover his face and that was the reason. It's why Wei Wuxian was afraid to be recognized; if he really reincarnated in MXY's body, he wouldn't have had to use it (and the writers wouldn't have had to add it). He could've just pretended to be MXY like in the novel and other adaptations. 

 

You can find the information on the wikipedia page of film censorship in China, with linked sources/references even though those are in Chinese. There's probably more articles about it on the Internet or essays on film censorship if we look hard enough. it's an interesting topic. I still don't understand why though :/ 

 

"On June 30, 2017, the China Netcasting Services Association, an online broadcasting industry body subject to SAPPRFT and Ministry of Civil Affairs,^[48]issued a set of guidelines, signaling detailed control on all forms of audiovisual web content, including films.^[49][50] 

 

1. Defamation of revolutionary leaders, heroes, People's Liberation Army, armed police, national security apparatus, public security apparatus, and the judiciary branch, etc;
2. Pornography and cheap taste: prostitution, rape, masturbation, incest, homosexuality, hentai, sexual assault, sexual violence, extramarital affairs, one-night stand, sexual freedom, wife swapping, prolonged or provocative scenes of physical intimacy;
3. Feudalistic ideology which is pseudoscience: spirit possession, reincarnation, witchcraft, etc.
4. Showcase excessive horror, psychological pain, hysteria, causing strong stimulation to senses and emotions with uncomfortable pictures, lines, music, and sound effects

[GiaGia]

Those that watched the live version and read the novel; how is the similarities and differences between the two? I started reading the comics, and looks like it goes back and forth between the past and present? I only saw the live action, so I want to know how close was the adaptation to the book? I wish I could have read the novel first though^^!!!

[Bea]

15 minutes ago, rosierosie said:

Those that watched the live version and read the novel; how is the similarities and differences between the two? I started reading the comics, and looks like it goes back and forth between the past and present? I only saw the live action, so I want to know how close was the adaptation to the book? I wish I could have read the novel first though^^!!!

The live action adaptation is very different than the novel. The manhua is more faithful to the novel. In it, it jumps from the present to the past and to the present. You don't find out what happened to Wei ying in his final days until later on...that was the big mystery back when Exiled Rebels was posting the translation. Only those who read the Chinese version knew. 
 

The adaptation also changes a lot of things from the plot and mixed things around (you probably noticed if you have read the manhua up to 100+).

[Kittycreamz]

On 9/17/2019 at 4:15 PM, LanaLiz said:

@frostflower14 Can you also PM me a link to the translation, please?

 

Also, does anyone know if there will be a season 2 to The Untamed? I ask because it seemed odd to leave the cunning younger half brother coming lose where he could still cause troubles especially now that his older half brother is dead and he wanted the role Lan Zhang ended up getting in cultivation.

one question：how is the older half brother DEAD?

[GiaGia]

4 hours ago, Kittycreamz said:

one question：how is the older half brother DEAD?

The older brother you're referring to is??

[bluehibiscus]

On 1/28/2020 at 10:19 AM, Kittycreamz said:

one question：how is the older half brother DEAD?

 

Do you mean the Nie brothers? No, there will not be a second season. Nie Huaisang doesn’t really have designs on the role if you pay attention to the last conversation he had with WWX (something like if it is meant to be yours, it’s yours). His aim was always to avenge his brother’s death. Nie Mingjue’s head was cut off by Xueyang on Jin Kuangyao’s instructions. Before that, Jin Kuangyao secretly switched the music played to calm his nerves to something that will make him slowly go mad.

[抹茶.Latte]

So many months have passed since the drama first air and I still can't get over it. Anyone feeling the same??? This is so terrible.

 

One thing I really love about this drama is the amount of thought put in by the production team to work around the broadcasting restrictions to try to satisfy fans. There are so many fan service hidden in the drama that I feel like I'm treasure hunting every time I watch the drama. My most favourite fan service got to be a scene hidden in ep 43. It is so hard to spot and I am really amazed with the fan who spotted it. At around 29 min 35s, the scene cuts to the entrance of the hut. If you zoom in, you will see WWX taking off his clothes. Just before the camera moves up to show the name of the place, you can even see the belt falling to the ground. Now we know why someone kept falling asleep the next day 

 

 

[GiaGia]

^I didn't noticed that, until I read it on other sites too. Some fans are very good at pointing out the small details. Now, I'm going to check it out^^.

edit: It was hard to spot it, so I have to paused every seconds lol. I finally saw it, and then it's hard to see it again. So, we can assumed they spend the night together^^. This is just me, but if you look at around 30:18, WY have a look of "something" that makes him glanced at LZ in a way. This has got to be one of the best xiaxian BL. I am still in withdrawal sometimes^^. It's so hard to move away, but also very bittersweet to watched it again----when I know how sad everything is, and the difficulties the characters went through^^.

[抹茶.Latte]

6 hours ago, rosierosie said:

This has got to be one of the best xiaxian BL. I am still in withdrawal sometimes^^. It's so hard to move away, but also very bittersweet to watched it again----when I know how sad everything is, and the difficulties the characters went through^^.

 

Yes! Although some novel fans might disagree but I think tencent did a great job with the adaptation given all the restrictions they face. The casting is really good too. Although I can't really imagine Yibo as LWJ at first but he kind of grew on me as the show progresses.

 

Ep43 is a really special episode. First you have LWZ letting his hair down (according to Lan family's teachings, you can only let down your hair infront of your parents or companion) and looking ready to be tucked into bed then you have WWX undressing and feeling sleepy the next day. After that you have the lovey-dovey scenes of them playing with the rabbit and WWX telling the rabbit it can never get out of his hands so just stay put and also the infamous scene of WWX riding on the pony. Put all together and it feels like they are having a honeymoon after confirming their relationship 

[抹茶.Latte]

Another fan service that is not easily spotted if the translations are not done is in ep31 when LWJ wrote to WWX to ask him to attend JL's 100 day celebration.

 

 

You can see a dot at the end of the first sentence where LWJ ask WWX if he is well today. There are no punctuations in the past so the dot was put at the end of that sentence intentionally to reflect LWJ pausing (to think about WWX) after asking about his well-being. 

[GiaGia]

29 minutes ago, 抹茶.Latte said:

 

Yes! Although some novel fans might disagree but I think tencent did a great job with the adaptation given all the restrictions they face. The casting is really good too. Although I can't really imagine Yibo as LWJ at first but he kind of grew on me as the show progresses.

 

Ep43 is a really special episode. First you have LWZ letting his hair down (according to Lan family's teachings, you can only let down your hair infront of your parents or companion) and looking ready to be tucked into bed then you have WWX undressing and feeling sleepy the next day. After that you have the lovey-dovey scenes of them playing with the rabbit and WWX telling the rabbit it can never get out of his hands so just stay put and also the infamous scene of WWX riding on the pony. Put all together and it feels like they are having a honeymoon after confirming their relationship 

Which pony infamous scene^^??? Which part where LZ put down all his hair???

Also, when LZ captured the roosters and gifted to WY when he was sleep walking lol^^---it represented them.

 

Yeah, some fans of the novel doesn't like the adaptation. With what I saw, I really like it. Maybe because I didn't read the novel before I know about the live version??? I know sometimes it happens when one like the novel better than the movie, or vice versa. Even some fans thought the ending could be better, but I think it was good. At the end, LZ come back and called out to WY :)!!! Even though his face wasn't showing, but I view it as that he came back for him^^---his lover.

[抹茶.Latte]

1 minute ago, rosierosie said:

Which pony infamous scene^^??? Which part where LZ put down all his hair???

Also, when LZ captured the roosters and gifted to WY when he was sleep walking lol^^---it represented them.

 

Yeah, some fans of the novel doesn't like the adaptation. With what I saw, I really like it. Maybe because I didn't read the novel before I know about the live version??? I know sometimes it happens when one like the novel better than the movie, or vice versa. Even some fans thought the ending could be better, but I think it was good. At the end, LZ come back and called out to WY :)!!! Even though his face wasn't showing, but I view it as that he came back for him^^---his lover.

 

Towards the end of ep43 you get the scene of WWX riding a pony. In the novel, WWX asked LWJ to lift him up the pony like what his dad did for his mum. Although we did not get to see WWX being lifted up by LWJ but he was sitting sideways on the pony which suggests he was lifted up 

 

Sorry, I should have been clearer. LZ did not put all his hair down but he did not put the crown on when him and WWX were in the hut. I am not sure what is the English word for it but in Chinese customs its equivalent to him letting his hair down. He only did it a few times in the show and it was always when he was with WWX. 

 

Yeah, I read in other forums that for shows adapted based on BL novels, the males leads are not allowed to be in the same frame for the ending. It either has to be one dead and the other alive or they have to go their own ways. Given these restrictions, I think we already have the best ending possible for the drama adaptation. I'm not sure if you saw but there was a white figure reflected in WWX eyes at the end and at around 41:42 after we hear someone call WY you can see a white clothing in the background under WWX right armpit. So LZ definitely came back for WWX or they may have met each other again after a few years 

[GiaGia]

2 hours ago, 抹茶.Latte said:

 

Towards the end of ep43 you get the scene of WWX riding a pony. In the novel, WWX asked LWJ to lift him up the pony like what his dad did for his mum. Although we did not get to see WWX being lifted up by LWJ but he was sitting sideways on the pony which suggests he was lifted up 

 

Sorry, I should have been clearer. LZ did not put all his hair down but he did not put the crown on when him and WWX were in the hut. I am not sure what is the English word for it but in Chinese customs its equivalent to him letting his hair down. He only did it a few times in the show and it was always when he was with WWX. 

 

Yeah, I read in other forums that for shows adapted based on BL novels, the males leads are not allowed to be in the same frame for the ending. It either has to be one dead and the other alive or they have to go their own ways. Given these restrictions, I think we already have the best ending possible for the drama adaptation. I'm not sure if you saw but there was a white figure reflected in WWX eyes at the end and at around 41:42 after we hear someone call WY you can see a white clothing in the background under WWX right armpit. So LZ definitely came back for WWX or they may have met each other again after a few years 

No need to say sorry^^. Which ep when they were in the hut? Now, I'm going to go back and check out ep 43^^!!!

Thanks for the info, I didn't know that about BL adaptation that the male leads cannot be in the same frame :(. I wish for a day where China can allow BL to roam freely!!!

[bluehibiscus]

2 hours ago, 抹茶.Latte said:

Sorry, I should have been clearer. LZ did not put all his hair down but he did not put the crown on when him and WWX were in the hut. I am not sure what is the English word for it but in Chinese customs its equivalent to him letting his hair down. He only did it a few times in the show and it was always when he was with WWX. 

 

I think you can call it a forehead ribbon and to the Lan Family/Sect, it symbolises restraint.