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[Drama 2018-2019] Empress Dignity / The Last Empress, 황후의 품격

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59 minutes ago, dramaninja said:

Lord have mercy those naver comments :scream:

 

I’ve been reading the comments on Naver like:astonished: I’m not completely fluent but a lot are saying that ever since Sunny started to like Chun Woo Bin, she’s regressed to a weak character. It’s a bit harsh.. 

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4 hours ago, Crystal Kim said:

It’s really interesting to me that the Korean audience vastly favors the emperor x sunny ship while the western audience tends to go for cwb x sunny. I’m basing this off of Naver comments tho so don’t know how valid my observations are but still

I have to agree!

 

I guess it's not a myth that some women choose the bad guys... I mean, sure, it's really sad what happened to LH when he was a child, and yes, we should feel empathy towards him. And yes, he deserves to be happy too. But no, he isn't reformed yet and yes, he is still a chilling character with too much sadism in him. it doesn't take an Einstein to figure out that this guy is NOT husband material!


And yet there are women around the world who are willing to marry serial killers, because they think that they with their love and nurturing can heal those hardened criminals (who by the way, probably are clinical psychopaths who cannot be cured even with the best psychologists / medicines in the world). Well, in the end, I guess it reveals a lot more about the women's state of minds and psyche than the serial killers... <shrugs>

 

I actually enjoyed the interactions between CWB and Sunny in this week's episodes. I was actually giddy and happy to see them getting closer to each other, and I hope that they will end up having a wonderful life together. :) 

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*sighs* I'm about to go ahead and watch this weeks episodes with the subs XD *should really learn korean lol*

 

But I saw the ending clip of the Emperor grabbing Sunny and I swear without understanding anything; I noticed that when his voice changed, talking to Sunny, I feel he was demanding something of her, him grabbing her and dragging her off to probably her or his chambers just made me go: ANDDDD....THERE IT IS!  There's the deluded psycho I knew would resurface again!

 

I swear it came off as if he was determined to have his way with her and if Woo Bin hadn't been there, I feel like he would have seriously forced her to sleep with him. It's the same vibe I got from the end of last week's episode and when he actually tries to go for kissing Sunny at the beginning of ep. 15 (29, 30), I couldn't help but think, dude, seriously? Really? 

 

His 'love' is warped and twisted, and for all the pitiful attempts to make me like him/sympathize with him, he's still not right in the head, srsly. The whip splash of his character's extremities from going love to hate shows how unstable he is. He is doing exactly what I predicted he was going to do, delude himself into thinking Sunny is playing hard to get. *sighs*

 

If the writer was so gung-ho on really making him a true, competitive love interest against Wang Shik/Woo Bin for Sunny's affections, maybe she should have...I dunno STOPPED at him cheating on her??? Or not have him commit attempted MURDER....MULTIPLE TIMES?? *shrugs* At least with TIME, cheating could be forgiven if he really meant to show he was sincerely sorry. 

 

In an alternate universe, where LH isn't too far gone and hasn't tried to murder people because of his mom's manipulations, I do ship LH/SN...hardcore shipper (of both pairings) I really like the appeal of the chemistry between them and if this would have been a simple comedic romcom with maybe a little dash of angst, or you kept things the same without making the emperor a murderer and mentally unstable; I would be all over that in a heartbeat but this ain't that type of drama. I dunno, maybe it's a cultural thing but why oh why would you want her stuck to being married to a man who clearly had intentions of adding rape to his already messed up dossier?!

 

Because they're still married?! What the what?! Yea, let's just have the Emperor totally rape his wife who already hates his guts, that's really going to endear Sunny to Lee Hyuk!  (Again, I hope that is just the knet's thoughts and not reflective of everyone else watching the show).

 

And again, he was drinking and seeming to continue to make excuses like always to justify his reasons for whatever the heck he had planned to do with Sunny if not for Woo Bin interfering. (again, i'm only guessing, I haven't watched this with subs but i'm sure i can't be far off with at least picking up some noticeable clues in his speech pattern) Nothing he does is sincere! aughahkdjfkd! And what little sincerity he's TRYING to convey he just finds a way to self sabotage his own efforts. Nor has he really taken the TIME to sit back and reflect on what he's even done wrong. 

 

And now that Woo Bin has seemingly declared his intentions/interest in Sunny, I can already see the last eight episodes are about to be a trainwreck with this messed up love triangle...and I don't know if I can handle that for the next four weeks. So, I'm just going to stop here until it's over and pray one half of my OTP isn't killed off or the last two episodes aren't a bad case of a rushed ending.  *sighs*

 

My main annoyance if you haven't already guessed: If you're going to do a character redemption arc...do it right. Don't begin the hassle of making me sympathize or look forward to a character's redemption arc if you're just going to continue to show how un-redeemable that character is. It becomes a waste of the storytelling that could have been used for something meaningful. 

 

Maybe...MAYBE Writernim will surprise me, she's always has with this drama so far, but I won't hold my breath. I just don't want a rushed ending or leaving it open-ended where the audience is left to their own speculations of what happened or Woo Bin being killed off.

 

I want an ending in line with Jang Bo Ri....not Geum Sa Wol plz but I digress...

 

I was attracted to watch this drama because of Jang Na Ra x Choi Jin Hyuk and I will flip my s.h.i.t. if their characters don't end up together for the 2nd time.

 

Yea, still salty about Fated to Love You and no I won't let it go.

 

If this ends the way I fear it will...holy cow I hope there are peeps hiding in the shadows ready to write some fanfics...lots of fanfics, even if the show ends with a happy ending/bittersweet ending, i'm still going to needs fanfics. *I don't want to be the only one writing fanfics for both pairings just saying...*

 

okay...Imma stop ranting and go watch episodes 15 and 16 now. 

 

And then come back to rant some more XD

 

Again I write a lot...

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Awww. Hyuk is back to being cray2. I like bunny-hyuk and coffee-hyuk. Sobs :tears: 

 

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Previously writernim made it easy to like Hyuk, now it seems writernim is reminding us he is a villain again :sweatingbullets:

 

Imo, Hyuk has a problem conveying his thoughts. He didnt even say he didnt knew about the blood transfusion to sunny. He lets her hit him and be angry. But his choice of words saying for who else would the blood go to if not for the emperor..was a no no. Hyuk-ahhh you need to enrol yourself in a moral and ethics class. You clearly feel entitled because of your position. I blame his way of thinking on his lousy upbringing. He had/has awful parents. And he is confined in the awful palace surroundings, he doesn't seem to have any friends at all. It makes me wonder how he even knew and eventually got married with Empress Sohyun in the first place.

 

Hyuk is still a man-child. I hope he will grow up in this ep and repent his wrongdoing. But he didnt yet. Why hyuk why! Whyyyyyyyy!!! I want you to be a better person on you own accord~ the hand dragging and his entitled words at the end was a super no-no too. Good thing WB was there to snap Hyuk into his place.

 

Still hoping Hyuk will grow up and own his wrongdoings and do something to right the wrong and get jailed or punished or even dethroned. Sunny's long rant to him might be the best way to awaken his senses. I did feel bad for him when she said 'you should have died back then' straight to his face. He helps her from the sidelines, but he is so so bad at saying the right thing at the right time and eventually it blows up in his face and he goes cray2. 

 

P/s: the scene where Hyuk lost his mind in his room was super creepy with the background sounds

 

P/p/s: woobin smiling behind Hyuk's back each time Hyuk starts to crack was creeeeepppyy too

 

@butterflyempress you said what i want to say about Hyuk in a more eloquent way :)

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2 hours ago, Crystal Kim said:

 

I’ve been reading the comments on Naver like:astonished: I’m not completely fluent but a lot are saying that ever since Sunny started to like Chun Woo Bin, she’s regressed to a weak character. It’s a bit harsh.. 

That makes no sense she is the same as ever! just because she has emotional moments does not make her weak.

 

WB had these moments but it seems they are both giving each other strength.

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6 hours ago, kaoriharang said:

The last scene where after Sunny rejected him, LH chose to handle it the way he handles everything with force and demand.

I guess that's the only way he knows how to handle things... It's really sad that he grew up to be such a person, and I blame it all on the ED who keeps feeding him with lies and poison for his mind.

 

I am very surprised though with the K-netizens comments. It is kinda fun to see CWB and Sojin, but I can't feel them. And that because of more focus on CWB, the story became boring and ratings dropping?? But I have to admit there are scenes that I dislike about CWB... he's becoming a very cold and heartless person in his path of revenge. I don't really like that...

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7 hours ago, PutriSalju said:

It's better to let the writer finish her/his drama not because what fans want but pure because what his/her mind want.

 

The problem with a drama like this is that the writer will sometimes change the plot, including the OTP, if the audience seems to have a strong preference for a different pairing then the one the writer originally had in mind, and the knetz do seem to be expressing more preference for a LH-SN pairing than a NS-SN pairing, even if it makes no sense.

 

All the reasons why LH and SN shouldn't be a pairing feel too numerous to list, but they include the fact that LH tried to kill SN with his hands which leads to LH has an uncontrollable temper that can turn murderous, LH is an unrestrained man-child with no impulse control and seems happy to jump into women's beds if it's convenient even if he's supposed to be in love with someone else, LH's life was saved at the expense of SN's mother's life, LH had been unfaithful to SN for their entire marriage, LH is a murderer of other people, etc., etc.

 

That is offset by the fact that it was the Dowager Empress and the ex-Emperor that turned Hyuk into a monster from which he was never able to escape. Btw, the scene of the Dowager Empress setting Hyuk's parakeet on fire actually managed to shock me. Plus, Hyuk is still technically SN's husband, and I can see how some viewers might think that only the love of a good, strong woman can save Hyuk. This is total nonsense, of course, since just because Hyuk wants SN now is no reason to think that Hyuk will want SN later, or that Hyuk won't kill SN as well in a fit of rage over something. But, really, I think the main attraction to Hyuk is that he's played by SSR who, in addition to his good looks, is infusing Hyuk with a charm and emotions that Hyuk as a character doesn't have. It's SSR who conveys both the lost little boy pathos to some of his scenes even after he's done something monstrous. It's SSR who has such perfect timing in the comedic elements so that the viewer laugh both at and with him. It's SSR who is gleefully playing an unhinged character who keeps finding dark demons as reasons why it's not really his fault that he's such a monster. So, I can understand why he is such a mesmerizing figure for some.

 

WB, by contrast, is written as a more sane character, so he doesn't have the same sense of gleeful fun that SSR is able to bring to Hyuk.  WB is driven by dark demons as well as Hyuk, but WB still has too many people that he's watching out for, including his little brother and the Empress, so he's more careful, plus he has a sense of purpose with his revenge. I think WB's character has suffered in the writing in contrast to Hyuk because can't be as colorful a character. WB could have been made trickier and cleverer, perhaps, but that was up to the writer. NS was also written originally to be a slightly oblivious character who relies on his strength and happiness rather than his mind. CJH has done a good job of carrying characteristics of NS into WB, but into a darker place. However, that is still not as much fun as unhinged Hyuk.

 

As for the romance, I would prefer SN be with the man who has always cared for her and saved her than the man who has tried to kill her, so I hope the writer isn't persuaded to try to redeem Hyuk to the point where SN is supposed to take him back, though the last episodes seems to be trying to go there maybe. I can see why viewers might find the romance a bit boring though. It's a bit of sanity surrounded by makjang on every side. As for me, I would prefer if they made better progress with the SN-NS romance now that they are working on the same side. Since this drama is going for full makjang anyway, couldn't SN and NS have a full blown romance as part of it, with opportunities for them to be a cute couple?

 

I thought SN's calling him WS instead of WB was symbolic and sweet, even though in a real situation that would have been a silly thing to do in case she is overheard. But, oh well, maybe that was the point?

 

The other one I find interesting to watch is actually AR, though her fake laughs of happiness around the other royals is very grating.  I think I dislike the nanny enough by now, that I'm actually okay with AR being rude to her own birth mother. The nanny since Hyuk has rejected her time and time again seems to have decided to take power through AR, however, I still think that the nanny is delusional to think that AR will put up with that even at her young age. AR is so thoroughly dismissive of her nanny/mother that it's disconcerting to watch, but then again, the nanny has raised AR to be dismissive of "lower" people, so really it's chickens coming home to roost as far as I'm concerned. I think AR will be the key to a lot of things since things are said in her presence and in her eavesdropping that will be important for SN.

 

As for the bodyguard who is being kept in the psych ward being DS' father and YR's ex, I wondered whether YR knows that he's being kept in that psych ward. I could see YR being cold blooded enough to know and to not care since she was also willing to kill her son DS (or possibly send him to child slavers). That was definitely another bit of a makjang twist to this drama.

 

One other thing, I don't mind the Hello and Vincent romance, but I really wish that Hello would stop it with the annoying baby talk. I think that kind of baby talk should be grounds for breaking up immediately anyway. :D

 

edit: I think the only reason I'm still following this drama is to watch the Dowager Empress being brought down to her knees and put in prison. Or a psych ward.

 

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I think we all unanimously agree to disagree with the never comments about shipping LH and SN. Along with everything he’s done to her, there’s also the fact that he is responsible for her mother’s death and in most kdramas a dynamic like that is taboo. Not that has stopped leads in the past but these two episodes felt like SN and WB were getting closer as LH and her drifted more apart now that she knows his involvement with her mother’s death. At the same time, I think this just makes his ‘love’ (I use that loosely because it’s a debate if he’s even capable of that) stronger for her because he wants what he can’t have, especially now that his bestie is doting after her. He knows he can’t be mad at SN like he was at SH because this time it was him who pushed the man to seduce the empress. Even if knetz viewers are supporting the LH-SN ship , I don’t think writers would even have enough time to switch everything around, we are more than 2/3 past the drama and it would be absolutely absurd if SN has a sudden change of heart (not that this show has ever strayed away from the absurd :P)

 

who was that guy that approached YR in mental hospital??

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@katakwasabi Thanks chingu, I also love your analysis of the character as well. :D

 

@stroppyse I'm still in awe and concerned that viewers have such a strong influence on the writing of a drama's story even halfway through, I had read a few years back that most the time, the writers pretty much never have a fully finished script and it's one of the factors why some dramas can start halfway with a strong start but then end up being lackluster towards the end. Or a plot point that happened in episode 5 is never addressed again or suddenly brought up by episode 14, only to be dismissed...

 

Which is why I seldom watch a lot of dramas, I usually wait for them to be completely finished before I decide whether or not to watch it or if it's a already pre-produced drama I'll give it a chance because I know viewers cannot influence/pressure the writer into making nonsensical story points that do nothing for the overarching story. I end up watching dramas halfway and then dropping them because the stories tend to either not make sense or padded with unnecessary stuff in order to drag it on.

 

At first, I had thought this drama was one of those already %100 pre-produced dramas so when I found out it wasn't, my first immediate thought was; oh god, I hope the writer tells her story the way she wants and isn't pressured to change things because Knets are whining about their ship not being OTP...I don't like when writers are pressured to cater to viewer's demands when it does nothing for the story. 

 

If the writer wants LH/SN then by all means, she has the right to do that but if it's done on basis of what viewers want...ehh...I'll be disappointed. 

 

Yeah, again, I totally get where they're coming from, the appeal of LH's character is more attention grabbing, namely because of the actor playing him and he really is stealing the show at times away from WB who, unfortunately was not written to be a 'debonair'/suave type of character. If LH's character wasn't played by SSR and played by someone that just shows how utterly awful LH is or if WB's character was written to be charismatic than viewers probably wouldn't be rooting for such a character. Honestly I wasn't expecting it at all, this is the first time I've watched something with this actor in it, because as I've said I came because of seeing JNR x CJH reunite as leads. I love JNR but CJH is so hot, I've been swooning over him being allowed to smile more in recent episodes and I'm like, Emperor Lee Hyuk...Emperor Lee Hyuk who?? That man's smiles omfg....I can't! *ahem* Where was I going with this post? Oh yeah...

 

It reminds me of my brief time, watching the Heirs, before I dropped it, it was too ridiculous, even for me. But Choi Young-Do was more entertaining to watch, especially whenever his character interacted with Cha Eun Sang. Kim Tan just became so boring by contrast that I ended up shipping CYD x CES.

 

And speaking of main lead's who are totally douchesnozzles to main female leads and their overbearing mothers, Koo Jun Pyo and his mother the infamous 'Mama Kang' are like little puppies by comparison to LH and his mother!

 

in an alternate universe, I'll be all over LH/SN but....Lee Hyuk is still Lee Hyuk and that was clearly emphasized in episode 16 and with the subtitles to put context into what was being said? I almost lost it! I screamed at my laptop ya'll ISTG!! I WASN'T WRONG HOLY SHEET! I said I was worried that if Sunny kept pushing this crazy nut he was going to end up trying to force her to stay by his side! That ending! I seriously don't see how he can be redeemed?! He needs to go straight to the psych ward holy mother of cheese! 

 

And now that Woo Bin was like grant my wish, let her go, he ain't gonna do it, he doesn't want to divorce her or let her go omfg I called this! I FREAKING CALLED THIS! ;fjkajdlfak I'm freaking out right now. 

 

I will be surprised if he does but he ain't and i think it's this ending scene that's going to start making LH suspicious of the possibility that WB is actually WS. And now I worry that my man...is going to be killed off. *takes a deep breath*

 

With subtitles that ending was soooooooooooooooo much more unsettling, like I was hoping they weren't going to go there but they went there, he LITERALLY said in so little words he didn't give a good freaking darn how she felt he was ready to...oh freaking lord, this man is crazy. If it weren't for WB, he was going to in a state of drunken rage and rape her. Like, I cannot be the only one who got that right? Am I delusional OR...??? I know i can't be the only one that picked up on this right? RIGHT?! 

 

Death would be too good for LH's character, he needs to be sent to the psych ward for help, srsly. 

 

Okay so I'm dropping my speculation on birth secrets and just have come to the conclusion that Lee Hyuk, So Jin and Yoon just unfortunately had crap parents. Lee Hyuk's a monster, So Jin was ignored all her life until her mom finds her useful and Yoon feels responsible for all the crap his family has done and feels ashamed, like I see why he doesn't want Sunny's family to know he's related to them, Sunny's family is the closest thing to what an actual loving family is but honey you're gonna have to tell them at some point. 

 

He's also frustrating in keeping secrets for too long but I understand not wanting to say anything without proof, but my sweet, sweet summer child...WHY WOULD YOU GO RUNNING YOUR MOUTH WHEN YOU KNOW HOW YOUR MOTHER IS?! Baby, I need to learn when to sing like a canary and when to stay silent as a mouse! OMFG WHY?!

 

Can someone get Ari away from her mother? I do not feel sorry for Nanny Kang Hee, you raised your child that way so *shrugs* you know what kind of person Sunny is and you know what kind of place that soulless palace is...it was only natural that Ari, despite her gravitating towards Sunny because she was taught to seek connections with those that had wealth or higher status, she was going to naturally be attached to her because of her good heart. 

 

Sunny is the only person to show her real motherly love. So stop being so dang jealous. I know some of ya'll are annoyed with Ari and usually children that are bratty grate my nerves but I cannot be annoyed by her at all, her calling out for Sunny made my heart weak and she has a chance to be saved. You could see the influence was quickly taking effect, it probably won't happen but I wish for Sunny to take Ari with her. 

 

Because now I'm speculating if the body that was found at the beginning is a fake, if that body doesn't end up being either Min Yu Ra, So Hyun's or the Nanny's, I'm wondering if Sunny fakes her own death to getaway from LH because he has gone beyond the deep end? 

 

I hope So Jin stays the same, it'll be so unnecessary for her to suddenly turn rotten because of jealousy after ALL THIS TIME for the sake of 'drama'. *sighs*

 

The former head guard and Yu Ra teaming up?? Didn't see that coming! That's going to make things very interesting and messy. 

 

Yeah...Dowager Kang human trafficking people on that island, burying the dead...yeah...it's starting to sound more and more plausible. I can't think of a more fitting punishment for her, other than public humiliation, like having a crowd of people just throw trash and eggs at her and of course life without parole. But...I might be hoping for too much. 

 

Ugh, there's prob more to rant about but my mind is overloaded by the fact that I am floored...FLOORED over LH actually having the nerve to imply he'll force Sunny into submission with no regard to her cries or pleas and he probably thought like every other guard, Woo Bin was just going to stand by and allow him to drag away a woman even if its his 'wife' to obviously be raped.  

 

Hindsight is 20/20 it was mildly creepy when she kicked him out and he smiled saying he wanted to conquer her in ep 15...yeah...that mofo really meant that sheet!

 

Say what you want but Woo Bin was the real MVP at the end of ep 16 and was sexy putting that nut in his place. 

 

but yeah, gonna try to get back into encounter since I've been thirsting for a noona romance for a while now, it just seems to move kind of slow...but I need to break away from this drama before I go insane! I'm worried about Sunny and Woo Bin, I'm worry the writer is gonna do a 180 and be pressured into making LH/SN endgame, I'm worried she's going to throw the unexpected pregnancy trope in just to create more drama...I need a break from the Last Empress. 

 

okay, I'm done now XD

 

 

 

 

Ya'll already know, the rookie likes to rant and make insane theories, everything is full game until otherwise debunked. XD

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19 hours ago, dramaninja said:

Only way for LH redeem himself is to admit all his and his mother crimes and go to prison that is all other then that  nope.

 

Also really he said it makes him want to conquered sunny thats all he cares about it was beyond creepy.

Absolutely agree with you. 

 

Although I find LH interesting and I do somewhat pity his upbringing, he must pay for his crime and admit to his deed. He had committed too many crimes to get off with just a slap to his wrist.

 

And it's interesting that you pointed out that LH said he wanted to conquer Sunny, because I originally thought he was falling for Sunny (when he smiled at her image in the camera), but after he witnessed WB's hug with Sunny, I knew his interest was stemmed from his competitive nature. Now...guilt came into play.

 

There's no doubt that LH's willingness to protect Sunny stemmed from his guilt. When he confronted his mother about the bombing incident, the first thing he said was that he couldn't believe his mother would try to kill Sunny after what had Yoon told them...indicating, that reason was his primary reason. And when his mother confronted him about his own murder attempt against Sunny, echoing Sunny's rebuke, it finally hit home for him (why Sunny wasn't willing to forgive him, why Sunny was so mad at him) that he had committed the same error that he was criticizing his mother for. That's why, when he made the declaration that he was going to protect Sunny, I find that scene an interesting growth for his character. 

 

However, I would never agree to pair him up with Sunny. Like Sunny indicated, who's crazy enough to be on a good relationship with the person who tried to kill you? I want to see LH chastened...I want to see him learning how to say "sorry" like Ari...but I do not want to see him in a romantic relationship with Sunny. I'll flip the table if that occurred.

 

 

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I have a crazy tot that would like to share( but I think is highly unlikely:sweatingbullets:, what if dong shik is the Empress SH and emperor’s child ? She actually had a early delivery and fake pregnancy then she pass to and exchange with KJS and MYR ‘s child? That would explain why MYR don’t care for DS, hard to believe she is such a cruel mom. 

 

Another question is the photos ED show LH (KJS shopping with Empress SH ),looks like photoshopped ( cos the scene is same like KJS’s flashback with MYR) . 

 

And why is the previous guard still alive, tot he is edict to die? Does that mean the poison injection is not poisonous ? Does this have any link with the poison show to ED?  :crazy:  TLE is so unpredictable.

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My friend said she wouldn’t be surprised if sunny ends up being pregnant. I dismissed it at first since it’s such a common trope but I guess it would mess up the nanny’s plans (if it’s a boy) and will keep the love triangle going and also parallel with the emperor’s past. Then this would be the ultimate makjang lmao

 

Oh, and the Crown Prince would also go to jail if the news break since he knew about the murder but didn’t say anything for 7 years

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*sobs omg what did i miss?!! my sister went into labour last night and we had to fly out suddenly coz she lives in diff city..

 

will catch up today after all the craziness..

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8 minutes ago, Crystal Kim said:

My friend said she wouldn’t be surprised if sunny ends up being pregnant.

Hi @Crystal Kim Wow your friend is observant about that. We can't forget that Lee Hyuk and Sunny did consummate their wedding night. Was it their wedding night? Who knows she get might pregnant later, right? Wow....that's very interesting.

7 minutes ago, Matilda_Anne said:

*sobs omg what did i miss?!! my sister went into labour last night and we had to fly out suddenly coz she lives in diff city..

 

will catch up today after all the craziness..

Hi @Matilda_Anne how's your sister doing? Baby is safe and healthy? Boy or girl? Congratulations :)

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11 minutes ago, alekaonu said:

Hi @Matilda_Anne how's your sister doing? Baby is safe and healthy? Boy or girl? Congratulations :)

 

thanks! It’s a girl!! she is healthy and so cute i could eat her lol.. 

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Now I understand why Wang Shik is the one saving Sunny when Sunny Save Hyuk from the Joon Sung brother. Cause the true otp of this drama is Sunny and Wang Shik. I was thinking why the hell this fat guy saving Sunny. Why? I keep saying to myself. I never thought he will transform to Choi Jin Hyuk. I never read the synopsis and just watch the drama cause I really like Jang Nara and SSR and thought they look good together. I thought they will be together in this drama. I was a fool for hoping this drama is about SSR and Jang  Nara. This is my mistake for not reading the synopsis. I just saw the ads and start watching it. Now that Sunny hates Hyuk so much and even Bin has confessed his feelings. Feel so sad cause Hyuk tried to be nice and all went wrong. Nothing goes well. I know how evil Hyuk is but I think every1 deserve a 2nd chance. After they showed Hyuk starting to become nice, I support him but its just sad that I think I know what will happened already. I was hoping Bin will forgive him since he didnt kill his mother intentionally. But the way this goes is not going there. I think the ending would be Hyuk die just to save Sunny. Even though the OTP shows progress the ratings went upside down. I hate how they make Hyuk trying to become nice just to be destroyed in the end. I regret watching this drama. I think I will not watch it anymore. Ending for sure is Hyuk dying so His brother Yoon, Bin, and Sunny can laugh out loud and Bin got his revenge. Bin and Sunny together in the end. 

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3 hours ago, stroppyse said:

As for the romance, I would prefer SN be with the man who has always cared for her and saved her than the man who has tried to kill her, so I hope the writer isn't persuaded to try to redeem Hyuk to the point where SN is supposed to take him back, though the last episodes seems to be trying to go there maybe. I can see why viewers might find the romance a bit boring though. It's a bit of sanity surrounded by makjang on every side. As for me, I would prefer if they made better progress with the SN-NS romance now that they are working on the same side. Since this drama is going for full makjang anyway, couldn't SN and NS have a full blown romance as part of it, with opportunities for them to be a cute couple?

will have to agree with some of the naver comments. there was one that pointed out that there was so much sizzle with the scene where he covered her eyes while seeing yura and emperor on boat. that bridge scene was an absolute knock out. him putting an ice pack on her feet, or carrying her... there were many earlier scenes that had a real sizzle. now in the later scenes, that sizzle is missing which is why knetz seem to be jumping on the other ship. besides the comedy factor, the other ship doesn't have any sizzle at all but it is just amusing to watch. so I don't think the viewers are even taking it seriously as there is the character  ㅋㅋㅋㅋ to indicate "hahaha / kekekeke" that most of these comments are said in a kind of jest.

 

that said, even some of the writer's previous works had that kind of comic vibe with the ex like in the temptation of wife. but they didn't end up together. a clue that end game is sunny and wang shik is how sunny reacts to emperor. haven't seen yesterday's episode yet but in wednesday's episode, emperor is trying to woo her and you see her almost sucked in and then she is reminded of jedi master's words about how she was used as an alibi to cover the accident. then her anger, frustration wells up and she sees his true face and calls him out on his behaviour...  so now with her finding out about her own mom's death, it is a divide that can never be bridged.

 

but I wouldn't mind some of that old sizzle between wang shik and sunny. it was fun to watch. not sure why it is missing but I can't help but notice choi jin hyuk looks exhausted and kind of like he lost weight? but this isn't a rom-com anyway. all for the revenge plot and to see how all these knots are unfolded. so even if the romance falls flat, it doesn't matter as much...

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4 hours ago, stroppyse said:

 

edit: I think the only reason I'm still following this drama is to watch the Dowager Empress being brought down to her knees and put in prison. Or a psych ward.

 

 

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Yes... THIS!

This is really the reason why I am still watching the drama now.

 

Not to forget. MYR, LH and annoying Nanny.

I have absolutely NO LOVE for these 4.

 

I don't understand the rationale to make LH "human", "funny" and "pitiful" to viewers.

 

And I've said before.. I don't understand why would Sunny, the crown prince reveal their cards to ED all the freaking time....

 

One thing for sure, ED's vanity gonna be the one to take her down completely.

 

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P.S @Crystal Kim can't be. How many sun and moon has passed since they do the deed? 

That will be the last straw for me as it will be so... what do you call it???  makjang? :joy:

 

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