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[Drama 2018-2019] Empress Dignity / The Last Empress, 황후의 품격

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Thanks a lot, dear @ktcjdrama for live recapping!!

 

Seems like you all are bit sad with today's eps... And Yoon was never a helping hand for either of his family! I just thought he will be a great hand for Sunny though....

 

And I am so touched with Sunny & Wang Sik's closeness to eachother. It's beautifully written! :wub: And now we have only 4 weeks here... I am curious to know how the writer's gonna wrap all the messes up!

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...Writernim is starting to get into 'good guy idiot syndrome' with the being honest and telling what they're gonna do...to the bad guys willing to kill for what they want?

 

Okay, here is where I will break from this drama now until it's over. 

 

And we were doing soo well. Why???

 

Hopefully when i return to binge watch, It won't be Moon Lovers all over again.

 

By moon lovers, I mean one half of my otp dying.....

 

And then there's the love triangle...imma keep it at that.

 

Peace

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31 minutes ago, ktcjdrama said:

Please teach me how... It's all in Korean...

 

Btw, I'm feeling sorry for Sojin... I hope WB will come clean with her. I don't want her to become a revengeful person. She is rather harmless actually....

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It's easy. You just need to change the language to english first and register an account. Next you just need to click on the on-air button and you can stream it freely :D

 

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Sadly, I actually don't think WB will live. I mean he has a ticking time bomb in his brain for crying out loud! 

 

I think LH's downfall will be one where he actually feels guilt and is bashed by all the public. Since he lived off public's affection, it will be apt for him to go down with the public's scorn. 

 

Not sure how they want to bring down MYR though. The ED too. I honestly cannot think of a punishment befitting of them. 

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Wahhh this scene . WB used his dongsaeng card ! He’s asking LH to grant his wish cuz he likes Sunny . Unexpected !!

And our gal mourning over how her mum died ..and they hug !!! :wub:

This ship is on the right course ...writer nim pls don’t mess it up.

 

The excellent acting by SSR has very effectively gotten LH many new sympathisers till the point many ship LH & Sunny , but I firmly believe in WB -Sunny end game . Sunny , at the end of the day,  needs to be able to clear her name , get justice for her mum & be free of this crazy family. 

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Yesterday, Sunny provided comfort and a shoulder to lean on when NWS was mourning for his mother...

Today, NWS gave her a hug and a promise to protect her when she was mourning for her mother...

How beautiful...

 

I also love that Sunny called him NWS instead of CWB when she was asking him to stay with her by the bed...

 

8 minutes ago, triplem said:

The excellent acting by SSR has very effectively gotten LH many new sympathisers till the point many ship LH & Sunny , but I firmly believe in WB -Sunny end game . Sunny , at the end of the day,  needs to be able to clear her name , get justice for her mum & be free of this crazy family. 

I believe it will be WB-Sunny too... but I still hope for LH to redeem himself... maybe one of the ways is by giving up his throne and divorcing Sunny to release her to be with WB.

We're still a long way from the finale, many things will surely still happen....

 

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12 minutes ago, Miss_Unicorn said:

 

Not sure how they want to bring down MYR though. The ED too. I honestly cannot think of a punishment befitting of them. 

 

I can.

 

Very PG rated ways since I'm can't go all too psycho here.

 

MYR - shave her head bald. Put her on the island with only animals. See if she can charm her way through out of the island. 

 

ED - stop wasting breast milk on her and put her in a room with mirrors.

She can either talk herself silly or watch herself grow old.

 

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@ktcjdrama actually. I thought that's stupid.

Calling him NWS like that.... Is like asking LH and ED to kill them faster.

:lol:

 

 

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@triplemI guess some people find almost killing  her ,framing her, and cheating on her great traits for a guy just because  he act sorry for once in his life.

 

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9 minutes ago, dramaninja said:

@triplemI guess some people find almost killing  her and cheating on her great traits for a guy just because  he act sorry for once in his life.

Amen @dramaninja  Also help to fabricate a will and steal wealth that was promise to her.. I say hang him and mom out to dry..

 

I would love to see the end game Yoon and the sister.

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19 minutes ago, mrsj3n said:

@ktcjdrama actually. I thought that's stupid.

Calling him NWS like that.... Is like asking LH and ED to kill them faster.

:lol:

I know. I was kinda shocked too... But supposedly, they're in a private chamber... but who knows with the thin paper windows... and then the ED peeking into the room :P

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58 minutes ago, ktcjdrama said:

 

@Lmangla Just thought you should know that we need a new count on the dead bodies after today's episode :D.... hold on though... the count became the same actually, but just need to update whose body it is :lol:

will have to wait and see the episode to see who gets added to the count.. thanks for the heads up!

 

keep thinking about the question posed by @Matilda_Anne; what does the empress dowager want really? why is she obsessed with making sure the emperor is a puppet? part of her ruining the lives of all these women is because she doesn't want him to think independently ever and wants him under her control. so she is constantly doing things to show who is really in power... but whatever is in that island looks like it will be her downfall. for a character like her, public humiliation and court trial will be the most horrible punishment. having everyone know your true face...

 

the nanny seems to be wanting to be empress dowager 2.0.. now am wondering if part of ari's brattiness is knowing that this woman wants to manipulate her and so she is purposefully putting a distance in a childlike manner... for all we know, ari may not even be nanny's child either. perhaps, some orphan kid she picked up and decided to pass as the emperor's... and wonder what will happen to dong shik...

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It’s really interesting to me that the Korean audience vastly favors the emperor x sunny ship while the western audience tends to go for cwb x sunny. I’m basing this off of Naver comments tho so don’t know how valid my observations are but still

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I watched the raw.

14 minutes ago, Crystal Kim said:

It’s really interesting to me that the Korean audience vastly favors the emperor x sunny ship while the western audience tends to go for cwb x sunny. I’m basing this off of Naver comments tho so don’t know how valid my observations are but still

 

same I find it interesting as well.

As much as I like Lee Hyuk as a character.

 

I feel no matter what I cant see LH and Sunny together. I feel sad for LH.

You know if the ED was a much sweeter lady, maybe LH would turn out alright. But as much as he is really just such a sad character, he is still someone who feels entitled.

The last scene where after Sunny rejected him, LH chose to handle it the way he handles everything with force and demand.

 

I mean, come one that isnt right... As much as he is a character that if given love would really be a wise and sweet ruler. He can't love. at least not yet.

 

my heart breaks for Sunny, to find out that the reason why her mother died is because the royal family overruled which led to the mother's death is sad.

LH's accident was not because of something else but more of his neglect - which i guess makes it even worse..

 

and I agree with you @ktcjdrama Yoon is such an underwritten character? i mean he is just using his emotions than rather his head to do everything. the fact that he didnt think that maybe just maybe the plans can go sideways. he should have expected the ED to use such underhand tactics. sigh, i hope he does reach some potential.

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It's better to let the writer finish her/his drama not because what fans want but pure because what his/her mind want. I would love to see Na Wang Sik and Sunny get together. Just a simple reason, they show what we call warm and sweet love. If people demands Emperor should get true love, well he can get it from another girl, becaise we see Sunny start to fall to Woo Bin. I saw the emperor is creepy and obsessive rather that love. Especially when he intentionally breaking up the stuff fpr Sunny or too much 'love' for Woo Bin. He thought both of them is his. I feel sorry for him but still he needs punishment. But again, I will enjoy the drama and try not care about who end up with who

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Hahaa, Knet really love SSR aka Kakao Talk Dog King character. Most of them want Sunny end up with him :D Although the Emperor did a lot of bad things, but i still find the chemistry between Sunny and him more interesting :wub:

 

Original Source (Star News via Naver): 'The Last Empress' Jang Nara kicks Shin Sung Rok, "Get out"

 

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1. [+773, -19] So freaking refreshing ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ He tried to kill her before.. Hit him one more time...
 
2. [+617, -15] Isn't the Kakaotalk Dog just a comedic character? ㅋㅋㅋ  
 
3. [+594, -47] I think I'm the only crazy one,, I feel bad for Lee Hyuk and I hope they end up together
 
4. [+490, -8] I feel like later on, Lee Hyuk is going to die instead for Ssu Ni or something else will happen.. If you think about it, when he was younger, he was a normal and nice kid but in the end, the parents ruined the child.. ㅠㅠ

 

Original Article: [news1 korea] 'The Last Empress' "I Like Jang Nara," Says Choi Jinhyuk To Shin Sungrok

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1. +1517, -90 Lee HyukSunny, in The Last Empress their chemistry is the best out of all, I hope they can meet again in the next romcom drama
3. +838, -63 Why do I support Shin Sungrok more?? He's a bad guy though...
3. +588, -81 These days it's getting boring again
4. +193, -40 Please make her end up with the emperor... She matches with the Emperor more than with Chun Woobin ㅜㅜ
5. +112, -5 I'm starting to feel bad for Lee Hyukㅠㅠ He met the wrong mother.......... It's so obvious that he can't receive love
6. +110, -11 The plot of the drama got weird ㅜㅠㅠ Sunny suddenly becomes tiring and boring
7. +102, -31 Sun Ok-nim please ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ If you continue to do this the drama will fail, there's no chemistry at all please ㅠㅠ Make her end up with the Emperor, I feel so bad for him
8. +65, -6 Am I the only whose heart is fluttering even more because of Woobin...
9. +42, -1 Everyone's acting is amazing ㄷ ㄷ
10. +31, -4 Chun Woobin is cool ㅎ
11. +17, -1 Excuse me.... If you're being like this when are you going to get revenge? Don't make her rely on men, make her into a cool character. 

 

Btw, this is drama makjang so i don't really care about the triangle love lol :sweatingbullets:

Aww SSR, i want to see u in a romcom drama :D

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2 hours ago, Crystal Kim said:

It’s really interesting to me that the Korean audience vastly favors the emperor x sunny ship while the western audience tends to go for cwb x sunny. I’m basing this off of Naver comments tho so don’t know how valid my observations are but still

 

It is interesting, I think it has to do with the comedic element that they have added to their relationship with her kicking him to the curb and not taking his crap anymore. It could also be because they are technically still married legally.

But I do feel that WB is better for her, he has constantly been protecting her. And I do feel that SN has won his loyalty, but I am not 100% certain that he is "in love" with her at this point. Because before asking LH for SN at the end of the lastest episode, he did mention that he wanted LH to want SN again as to drive LH to insainity. And then also on the bridge, he mentioned he wanted to protect her with his life. what a better way to do that than to claim her as his own.

 

Lastly, with the previous head guard being YR Baby daddy. I am not sure that she ever went back to search for him. If she had ever loved him, why was she trying to get rid of her son and abandon him? She has clearly no love for the child, if she had loved the father, wouldn't she have loved the child? Her whole goal is to become the empress and have power. Who knows, maybe she had dated the head guard in the past with power in mind, but when he was gone, she changed her target to someone who was more powerful. 

All in all, I think that they all should either be in prison or a Psych ward... permanently.

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So I'm a little behind because I've only seen up to Wednesday's episode.  Going to watch Thursday's episode when I get home after work.  But, OMG about YR and who fathered DongShik.  It kind of makes sense in a way.  I bet that YR was a typical (typical in K-dramaland only) naive country girl (look at how they did her hair in the flashback) who went to Seoul and fell in love with a guy.  She didn't work in the palace at the time and suddenly, her fiance just disappears on her.  The palace probably even told her lies, maybe even implying a relationship between him and Empress SH.  So here she is, heavily pregnant and abandoned.  She returns home to the countryside completely bitter and unfortunately, she views DS as a reminder of her "stupidity" in falling for a jerk who used her and abandoned her.  This experience completely colors her attitude now.  Perhaps her original plan in studying to become a palace employee (after she returned home) was to find her old fiance.  Or, perhaps she just thought it was a way to elevate her station in life.  For whatever reason she went to work in the palace, I think once there (and with the attitude that she went in with) I think the greed and corruption of the palace got to her.  K-dramas love to redeem their characters so I can kind of see where the writer is going with this one, I think.

 

I can also see how the writer is trying to create some redemption path for LH.  But the DE?  No way.  She is evil now and she is evil in the flashbacks.  I hope they don't show a flashback showing how she struggled when she first became empress bc right now I don't ever want to feel sorry or sympathy for her.  The princess mentions that the DE was a chaebol's daughter.  So now the picture I have is a rich brat used to controlling people and having power.  She then married and the only people with more power than her was the emperor (her husband) and the GDE.  She couldn't control them, but she certainly knew early on that she needed to make the crown prince (LH) her puppet.

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[The Last Empress] Eps 31 & 32 spoilers, Choi Jin Hyuk x Jang Na Ra x Shin Sung Rok

Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2019

 
Article: Naver 'The Last Empress' "I like Jang Na Ra" Choi Jin Hyuk declares in front of Shin Sung Rok 


1. [+1633,-94]
Lee Hyuk ♥ Ssu Ni. Their chemistry is the best. It's such a waste of their chemistry. I hope they reunite in a romcom drama.

2. [+1364,-48]
Ssu Ni's mother is the problem too, they can't be together... But why do I feel that the chemistry is such a waste? 


3. [+945,-67]
Why am I supporting Shin Sung Rok even more?? He's a villain... 


4. [+1006,-347]
The drama is shifting its focus to Cheon Woo Bin, the ratings are falling and it's getting boring. I'm not sure why Ssu Ni is starting to rely on people too. 


5. [+630,-83]
These days, it's getting a little boring.


6. [+381,-45]
I really like the love line between the Empress ♥ Emperor. Can't you put Cheon Woo Bin and Princess So Jin together somehow? Soon Ok Kim. 


7. [+311,-20]
It feels as if the directing and character designing were all focused on Lee Hyuk. Today's episode too. I was immersed in Lee Hyuk's emotions that it felt weird watching Cheon Woo Bin smiling. The character Cheon Woo Bin has no charisma. ㅠㅠ


8. [+266,-20]
To be honest, whenever the romance scenes come up, it's boring... She can't have romance with Lee Hyuk. Ssu Ni should be the Empress without any romance and Wang Sik should start noticing Princess Jang. ㅠㅠㅜ Ssu Ni and Wang Sik is a no.... I can't relate to the story, it's boring. When he confessed today, no matter how powerful his confession was, I still didn't get it. If you get fired, you can't take revenge, Wang Sik-ah. 


9. [+264,-25]
When Cheon Woo Bin covered Oh Ssu Ni's eyes in the past, they had chemistry. But now that they have built up chemistry between Lee Hyuk and Ssu Ni, forcing her with Cheon Woo Bin now makes it boring. Don't throw a spanner in the works. Put Lee Hyuk and Oh Ssu Ni together by making Lee Hyuk risk his life for Ssu Ni. And put Cheon Woo Bin and Princess So Jin together. Princess So Jin saved him today. 


10. [+185,-10]
That damn red scarf. Remove it already. How many times has it been? It doesn't match her clothes. 



 
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Article: Naver 'The Last Empress' Choi Jin Hyuk to Jang Na Ra, "I'll stay by your side" Shin Sung Rok flustered 

1. [+124,-1]
KakaoTalk Dog shouldn't have gone to Oh Ssu Ni. Going back and forth like that was so funny. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ


2. [+108,-11]
Why do I like Lee Hyuk more? ㅋㅋㅋ 


3. [+30,-1]
Oh Ra Ii (Crazy people with the surname 'oh') ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 
[t/n: 'Ra Ii' comes from the word 'ddoraii', which means crazy]

4. [+26,-2]
Both Choi Jin Hyuk and Shin Sung Rok are cool... 


5. [+20,-1]
Am I abnormal for getting attracted to Lee Hyuk more? He's a villain. ㅠㅠ


6. [+9,-1]
To be honest, I can't get immersed whenever the love line between Cheon Woo Bin and the Empress shows up. Logically, the love line between the Emperor and the Empress is impossible. But the love line between the Empress and Cheon Woo Bin has to be abandoned. Although I'm not sure if the problem lies with their acting or the script, but the Empress is too passive towards Cheon Woo Bin. They have to remove the love line between Cheon Woo Bin and the Empress if they want to increase the ratings further. 


7. [+8,-0]
Psychopath family. 


8. [+5,-0]
Lee Hyuk is pitiful, and there are times where my heart fluttered a little, but in Jang Na Ra's position, she'll never have heart flutters because of him.. 


9. [+5,-1]
The Emperor and the Empress match each other well.. Everyone around me + netizens think that way. 

https://melohwa.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-last-empress-eps-31-32-spoilers.html

 

 

Ugh these k-netz. But I have watched older dramas and I will admit that LH feels like the .....male lead the female lead learns to love just because he's "pitiful", while WB feels like the loving second male lead who does everything for the woman he loves but doesn't get the girl in the end. Please let WB get the girl. It's just wrong for Sunny to go back to LH. And the plot did say she would find true love and both of them will fight against the royal family. Sunny and WB really deserve each other so let them be together.

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Pls don’t circumvent swear filter. TQ
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Sometime I do feel bad for LH because of what has been done to him in his childhood. It´s really messed up and seing that he didn´t have anyone to keep him grounded it´s no surprise to me that he ended up being what he is now. Let´s take Ari for example look how she had been brought up and how Opportunistic she is...if it´s not for Sunny teaching her moral values...she would have grown up to be a ruthless person that is ready to do anything to get her way. 

The Grandmother was the only decent human being in that palace if she had found out  what was going on with LH in his childhood things could have been different.

Now with that being said I don´t excuse his behaviour and I think that he should definitely be punished for all the things that he had done. 

 There is chemistry between the actors of LH and Sunny but I don´t ship them in this drama...the character of LH is too messed up. 

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