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[Drama 2018-2019] Empress Dignity / The Last Empress, 황후의 품격

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i actually dont mind the makjang plots. it’s the overacting that i cant stand..i could not agree more about removing those dirty scenes.. it was inappropriate and awkward to see.. hopefully they can focus on oh sunny’s character development from now on. that girl is as clueless as i was during high school.. is it bad that i want her to change into a cruel person and kill everyone in the palace hahhaa.. that will be the biggest plot twist ever. 

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4 hours ago, ktcjdrama said:

 

@Lmangla You define makjang dramas very well and clear. Obviously a pro :lol:....

Some posters here had asked about what makjang is earlier.

kekeke...have very ajummah tastes (maybe because I started watching kdramas with my mom) and so watch a lot of daily and weekend dramas. so am used to doses of makjang that range from mild to supreme chilly! ^_^ hahahaha... find the tropes amusing and engaging -- you can leave your brains outside the door and just relax and laugh.

 

3 hours ago, chubby^green^ said:

ratings seems nice and good

it seems that this drama has sets in

kinda hard for them to reach the targeted ratings of 20% right?

but i am happy for them all

not necessarily; makjang dramas that are very engaging do tend to do very well in ratings. have seen the writer's previous successful works and these got ratings like 35% or more. so she knows how to write insane twists and turns and keep you guessing on how the story will proceed. also makjang dramas tend to appeal to ajummah crowd who are not going to be making comments in naver. these are quiet folks who just tune in. just based on the first few episodes, this is very addictive and so ratings may quietly rise but it may not have the buzz that appeals to younger viewers.

 

 

1 hour ago, Matilda_Anne said:

i actually dont mind the makjang plots. it’s the overacting that i cant stand..i could not agree more about removing those dirty scenes.. it was inappropriate and awkward to see.. hopefully they can focus on oh sunny’s character development from now on. that girl is as clueless as i was during high school.. is it bad that i want her to change into a cruel person and kill everyone in the palace hahhaa.. that will be the biggest plot twist ever. 

at least this is a shorter series which means she will wake up from her naivete early. ^_^ in dailys, we have to wait for over 30-50 episodes before she woke up and came back all fiery to take her revenge.  so yea, we will either see lean bear or sunny or both together play all sorts of revenge games and all we will say is "pass the popcorn!" hahahah....

 

p.s -- tagging @sava2sava who might enjoy this!

 

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I really pity Sunny. Things would have been different if she was a gold digger, but she's not. She thinks what she has with Lee Hyuk is true love. The thing is that they don't even love each other like that. She's just a big fangirl and he's just using her. Seeing how close Woobin is to the emperor, he should soon enough know about the affair between Yura and Lee Hyuk. I just don't know what'd he do when he finds out. Will he tell Sunny or just stay quiet until he gets what he needs?

 

I love the makjang from this writer. This is just as crazy as her other dramas. Let's hope our female lead and male lead end up together this time because I remembered in this writer's last 2 dramas, the romance got dropped halfway and the leads remained as "friends" in the end because this writer wanted to give her villains 95% of the screen time. I get skeptical about people who take this writer's lead roles because they risk losing their screen time in the second half of the drama. Kim Soon Ok, you were able to land big names like Jang Nara and Choi Jin Hyuk in your drama so please don't screw them over and please don't make their characters useless. If this happens I'm just gonna say "I knew it."

 

 

And I don't mind the "erotic" scenes. They are hot. 

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1 hour ago, Matilda_Anne said:

i actually dont mind the makjang plots. it’s the overacting that i cant stand..i could not agree more about removing those dirty scenes.. it was inappropriate and awkward to see.. hopefully they can focus on oh sunny’s character development from now on. that girl is as clueless as i was during high school.. is it bad that i want her to change into a cruel person and kill everyone in the palace hahhaa.. that will be the biggest plot twist ever. 

 

While watching last night's episode, I really want her to do that :lol: just kill every cruel person we know in the palace. Some pointers I got from that episode. The grand empress dowager said the empress is no ordinary girl. I like how some of their lines point out what's gonna happen in the future. Like how she will be a different empress and how often characters say the line "we'll see". I hope Chun Woo bin/Na Wang Shik will take the advise not to trust anyone because really, everyone has a hidden agenda. He is already in a lot of pain and anger with his mom being killed unjustly but once he finds out that her girlfriend (who he also wants to protect) is actually involved, I don't know how much he can handle. How can you actually kill or exact vengeance to someone you actually had loved and protected?

For Oh Sunny, I don't think discovering her husband's infidelity alone will develop her character. She needs to suffer as much pain like Na Wang Shik, perhaps through the hands of her mother in law, her husband, and Min Yura. And Min Yura is like a cockroach, even how many times she is stepped on, she is still alive and kicking. I like how our makjang writers plays with her villains. It's like the villains can't live a normal evil life, they also have other villains who torments them.

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50 minutes ago, Lmangla said:

kekeke...have very ajummah tastes (maybe because I started watching kdramas with my mom) and so watch a lot of daily and weekend dramas. so am used to doses of makjang that range from mild to supreme chilly! ^_^ hahahaha... find the tropes amusing and engaging -- you can leave your brains outside the door and just relax and laugh.

 

at least this is a shorter series which means she will wake up from her naivete early. ^_^ in dailys, we have to wait for over 30-50 episodes before she woke up and came back all fiery to take her revenge.  so yea, we will either see lean bear or sunny or both together play all sorts of revenge games and all we will say is "pass the popcorn!" hahahah....

 

 

@Lmangla you are our makjang teacher! thank you for your pointers. :D True! this type of drama is the dramas that ahjummas love. I saw this one tweet saying 'my mom is watching it and I'm forcibly watching it' :lol: 

 I'm surprised that the writer did a "mini-series" because she might be used to 50 episode daily/weekend dramas. This, I think, is only her 2nd miniseries. So 24 episodes is actually short for her (others comment that 24 is too long because mini-series nowadays run for 16) but with the juiciness of Kim Soon-ok's dramas, 24 episodes should be fast and packed :lol:

 

43 minutes ago, sonequeen01 said:

 

I love the makjang from this writer. This is just as crazy as her other dramas. Let's hope our female lead and male lead end up together this time because I remembered in this writer's last 2 dramas, the romance got dropped halfway and the leads remained as "friends" in the end because this writer wanted to give her villains 95% of the screen time. I get skeptical about people who take this writer's lead roles because they risk losing their screen time in the second half of the drama. Kim Soon Ok, you were able to land big names like Jang Nara and Choi Jin Hyuk in your drama so please don't screw them over and please don't make their characters useless. If this happens I'm just gonna say "I knew it."

 

I agree. I hope she wouldn't turn this drama to Jang bori is here or unni is alive. I want the leads to shine more than the villains. I want it more like Temptation of Wife where the lead still shined after all what happened. And it is the writer's most iconic drama so I hope she went back to that rather than really focusing on her villains throughout the drama. 

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42 minutes ago, nakatsubebe said:

The grand empress dowager said the empress is no ordinary girl. I like how some of their lines point out what's gonna happen in the future. Like how she will be a different empress and how often characters say the line "we'll see". I hope Chun Woo bin/Na Wang Shik will take the advise not to trust anyone because really, everyone has a hidden agenda. He is already in a lot of pain and anger with his mom being killed unjustly but once he finds out that her girlfriend (who he also wants to protect) is actually involved, I don't know how much he can handle. How can you actually kill or exact vengeance to someone you actually had loved and protected?

For Oh Sunny, I don't think discovering her husband's infidelity alone will develop her character. She needs to suffer as much pain like Na Wang Shik, perhaps through in the hands of her mother in law, her husband, and Min Yura. And Min Yura is like a cockroach, even how many times she is stepped on, she is still alive and kicking.

I'm very good in killing cockroaches. Just that sometimes they escaped me too fast under or behind the furniture. If I got them, I kill them good and clean... *evillaughters

 

I am looking forward to what will happen in the future. So far we've been informed that 7 years ago many things happened. Empress So Gyun, LH's first wife, passed away. The guard named Kang Joon Sung went missing. He was the Empress Dowager's guard, and was called into the palace every night, supposedly by the Emperor, but LH doesn't remember doing so. When this was brought up, Empress Dowager (ED) was stunned, she was thinking hard but MYR quickly diverted her train of thoughts by kneeling down and claiming she would investigate the assassination attempt on Emperor. (so is YR involved? but she's been there for only 5 years). As ED started to think again, LH's stirring diverted her too. LH remembered the guy's name, and called him a jerk. My best guess is that guard had an affair with the LH's first wife. Or at least it was staged as so by ED. LH appeared to truly love his first wife, but maybe she wasn't approved by ED and she decided to get rid of her, just as she is planning to get rid of Sunny.

 

The young man at the airport, a member of the Imperial Family, commented that why LH is marrying again, how many tragedies he wants to see happen. This makes me think that ED only wants LH for herself, no other woman can have her beloved son....

 

NWS has saved Sunny for the second time now. First was in the unbelievable deep pond, next was when she was hanging for her life last night. Yes, I agree there will be much more that happen before Sunny will wake up and smell the roses, er, I mean the rot in the Imperial Family. Probably even losing a family member, the dad or sister?....

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@chubby^green^

Sorry to hear about your situation  Hopefully things will be better soon. Yes life is sometimes half full or half empty. It all depends on one’s perspective.   At least you have cable tv to watch.    
It’s strange to read about scorching heat. whaha  In Midwest we just had the first snow storm last Sunday and the temperature dropped to 20’s, and our furnace is humming all day long.  Though the world turned into a beautiful winter wonderland, palm trees and balmy weather began to entice me. :)

 

haha you are right.  LH decided to marry Sunny for MYR. But as you wondered, what he feels for her doesn’t seem like love.  
In today’s ep, LH told to MYR that he wanted to be a real emperor with real power. It’s Dowager who has wielded real power.  Dowager mentioned how docile LH had been till MYR came in.  She sensed MYR wasn’t just one of the pretty girls LH dated before.   Maybe LH feels too that MYR has a brain to fight against Dowager and hands over to him real power.  However I doubt LH is thinking about having power for the interest of the public.  He probably wants to be like Dowager who uses power for her own interest.

Now about his first wife it seems he has a genuine feeling for her.  Maybe she was his first love but something happened 7 years ago. Maybe she tried to gain him real power and she lost??

 

Perhaps carrying a long fashionable umbrella  is modeled from the British monarch/ European upper aristocratic class.

 

Despite having strong competition, TLE made the highest rating 12% today so I’m delusionally hopefull about 20% haha :P

 

 

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3 hours ago, Matilda_Anne said:

i actually dont mind the makjang plots. it’s the overacting that i cant stand..i could not agree more about removing those dirty scenes.. it was inappropriate and awkward to see.. hopefully they can focus on oh sunny’s character development from now on. that girl is as clueless as i was during high school.. is it bad that i want her to change into a cruel person and kill everyone in the palace hahhaa.. that will be the biggest plot twist ever. 

I also agree.  One thing  I have always loved about kdramas is that you do not need to see dirty scenes to know that the couple have done the deed.  Not like western shows where you always need the visual of an almost naked couple in a couple of kamasutra posts to know what they have done!  I really hope Korea don't follow this ugly trend.

Sometimes it feels like a comedy.  None of the royals have a royal or even distinguished appearance.  And Sunny is like a comic character.  

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7 hours ago, AlexandraReid said:

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Min So Hee drew a mole and others couldn't recognize her after that [t/n: from drama 'Temptation of Wife']. At least it's more realistic this time. He changed himself after dieting. ㅋㅋㅋ

LOL... so true! this mole as a makeover in temptation of wife just cracked me up.... at least it is sort of realistic this time. hahahaha....

 

 

2 hours ago, nakatsubebe said:

 

@Lmangla you are our makjang teacher! thank you for your pointers. :D True! this type of drama is the dramas that ahjummas love. I saw this one tweet saying 'my mom is watching it and I'm forcibly watching it' :lol: 

 I'm surprised that the writer did a "mini-series" because she might be used to 50 episode daily/weekend dramas. This, I think, is only her 2nd miniseries. So 24 episodes is actually short for her (others comment that 24 is too long because mini-series nowadays run for 16) but with the juiciness of Kim Soon-ok's dramas, 24 episodes should be fast and packed :lol:

kekeke... yea, most folks probably get into makjang because they are watching it with their moms. hahahahahha... but yea, makjang actually works better in longer series but in shorter series, it just feels like one firework after another which can be entertaining in a different way...

 

my soompi chingus like @triplem may find it hysterical but I do love makjang. LOL. like seriously! what I love is that makjang is basically the dark side of human nature but shown in a comedy fashion without any of the depression but it is still uplifting!!! where else can you find a combo like that? hahaha... so I am probably ajummah now that I am in my 30s but I think the reason makjang can be so appealing to the older crowd is this:

-- if there is something that makjang really teaches you is this: don't be an idiot! be shrewd. it is good to be good person but you can't be naive and let folks take you for a ride. so @sonequeen01 ~ I don't really feel sorry for sunny; if anything, it teaches you that there's fangirling and there's reality! :sweatingbullets:

-- no one in makjang just sits there. they are all like chubby bear who are just relentless and persistent. life gives them a punch. they just get back and punch right back!

-- it is fine to be ambitious but the villains lose their way because they fall into the dark side of greed and ambition whereas the good guys learn to find a balance between ambition and being true to their goodness

-- even the villains will have super villains hounding them. so no one is safe from troubles.

-- sometimes you don't have to look far to get your heart broken. it may be the person you trust. what I find interesting about makjang is the good person is not actually surprised by the evilness of the villain but rather that they can't believe the villain fell that low when they knew the good side of the villain.

-- everyone reaps what they sow. no one escapes their actions. in real life, it can get really frustrating to see bad guys continuously winning whereas makjang assures you that no, everyone gets their due and it will be spectacular. so you get immense satisfaction! :D

 

so thats why I think makjang can be so appealing. the situations are absurd to the core that you can't take it seriously and the comedy comes from that but the emotions and lessons are true.

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From the behind the scenes video, looks like the cast is really having so much fun doing this drama. They might be almost to the point of killing each other in the drama but in reality, they are cheering each other. Look how Shin Sung Rok is actively clapping while Nara is making her hilarious performance. And Shin Eun Kyung is also cheering. This truly is like expectation vs reality. The cast is doing well, making us believe in the unbelievable :lol:

And surprise, Tae Hang-Ho actually wore a fat suit! 

 

 

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@Lmangla I knew that introducing you to this drama  was the best thing ever :lol:. As you know this drama is usually not my style but it’s because it’s so absurd, I’m so engaged 

some of the comments on line ! 

 

 

3 hours ago, sonequeen01 said:

And I don't mind the "erotic" scenes. They are hot

It’s fine with me too . :PThey ain’t that racy in my books since  I’m a certified pervy ahjumma, but I was surprised that SBS was so “daring “ this time 

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44 minutes ago, nakatsubebe said:

And surprise, Tae Hang-Ho actually wore a fat suit! 

I did think the roundness of his belly is rather unnatural... hahaha...

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54 minutes ago, triplem said:

@Lmangla I knew that introducing you to this drama  was the best thing ever :lol:. As you know this drama is usually not my style but it’s because it’s so absurd, I’m so engaged 

perfect antidote for a drama slump. kekekekekke....so kamsamhida....

 

so here's my ode to another beloved trope: the truck of doom. kekekkek...

so I shouldn't laugh but I had to giggle when bear's mom first gets hit by yura and then run over by the yellow truck and then dropped in the road to get hit again. talk about overkill! :sweatingbullets: and over many kdramas, have seen truck of doom in white, green, even red. but this is the first time, we have a shiny yellow metallic truck of doom... kekekek... truck of dooms are usually not so bright and recognizable! :lol: but even truck of doom has to get punished in this drama. so off it gets a glorious bonfire by yura. hahahah....

 

and had to laugh at how well she timed her dramatic "I am going to take the fall for my beloved" with the help of GPS and tracker. maybe those companies are having a heart attack at seeing how their technology is being portrayed on TV? this should be the new tagline for GPS -- need to manipulate someone? use the help of GPS to time your entrance dramatically! ^_^

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An Empress’s Dignity: Episodes 1-2

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An Empress’s Dignity (alternatively, and ominously, titled The Last Empress) scores major points for its unique universe, with the gorgeous imperial backdrop of a fictional constitutional monarchy in modern-day Korea setting the stage for a young actress whose life is about to change forever when she catches the eye of the Emperor. But the palace is teeming with all kinds of plotting and scheming, and little does she know just how dangerous her life is about to become.

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http://www.dramabeans.com/2018/11/an-empresss-dignity-episodes-1-2/

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Just saw 7 + 8 - still very entertaining and these two episodes were predictable because they had to set-up the next arc of the plot. Besides enjoying the and laughing along, I am loving the Grandmother Queen. She's sharp and clearly no one gives her enough credit. I also love her foreshadowing Sunny's strength. I also enjoyed Sunny's first interaction with Woobin too - can't wait to see more and hopefully it's these 2 taking out the bad royals. Who is the new mysterious royal returned from abroad...can't wait to find out! The whole filming of the newly wed reality TV show is so amusing too.

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4 hours ago, triplem said:

 :PThey ain’t that racy in my books since  I’m a certified pervy ahjumma, but I was surprised that SBS was so “daring “ this time 

 

7 hours ago, sonequeen01 said:

And I don't mind the "erotic" scenes. They are hot. 

  

haha u had me at certified pervy ahjumma.. we can literally be soul sisters.. i personally dont mind racy love making scenes in tv shows/movies. but, there is something about dirty scenes in this drama that i cant stomach.. it seems lustful and immoral to me.. i dunno why.. maybe bcoz they portrayed sex = love between yura and emperor.. having said that, elijah and ssr didnt really show lovers chemistry so the scenes came out bad and awkward in my eyes.. 

 

 

 

 

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Just watched episodes 3 and 4 and I loved it. It's crazy wild, and my favourite character is turning to be the mother. The faces that she makes are hilarious, from pathetic to evil to hurt that she's been accused of trying to hurt Sunny.

 

The Rocky music playing as the bodyguard works out was hilarious. Other lol moments - when the concrete poured into the evil girl lolol....so crazy over the top. 

 

But I can't help but swoon over the emperor's romance with Sunny on camera. It's like a parody of Goong, because it's fake. But he's so charming, and dashing I swooned. Do you think he'll ever fall for her? I doubt it. I think she'll be framed for the murder of his mother, the bodyguard will help her escape, and she'll return for revenge, mean and hard and looking totally different - like in Fated - and he'll fall for her.

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30 minutes ago, Matilda_Anne said:

haha u had me at certified pervy ahjumma.. we can literally be soul sisters.. i personally dont mind racy love making scenes in tv shows/movies. but, there is something about dirty scenes in this drama that i cant stomach.. it seems lustful and immoral to me.. i dunno why.. maybe bcoz they portrayed sex = love between yura and emperor.. having said that, elijah and ssr didnt really show lovers chemistry so the scenes came out bad and awkward in my eyes.. 

 

 

If it made you and the other viewers feel uncomfortable then the actors delivered well, in my opinion. It is meant to be viewed as lustful and dirty. There shouldn't be any love because both of them don't really love each other. What makes it even more disgusting now is that the emperor is already married to Oh Sunny and their act becomes adultery now. 

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