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[Drama 2018-2019] Empress Dignity / The Last Empress, 황후의 품격

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20 minutes ago, laivla said:

¿Pasé por alto algo? De hecho, en la vista previa vi a Lee Hyuk escribir algo y estamparlo, y también Sunny leyó una carta. :gritar:

No puedo recordar esto ... 

¿¿Cuando suceda?? ¿Alguien me lo puede recordar? 

I  have the same question

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I've watched the finale and found it very bittersweet. I have no problem with Oh Sunny ending up alone, I kind of preferred it that way for a while to be honest.

Overall I was okay with the ending. I think they wrapped it up reasonably well considering Choi Jin Hyuk wasn't there to bring closure to Na Wang Siks story.

 

I wasn't prepared for Emperors death tho! :bawling:

 

I agree with those wanting SSR in a romcom. I've become a new fan of his after watching his performance in TLE.

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1 hour ago, laivla said:

Did I overlook something? Actually in the preview I saw Lee Hyuk write something and stamp it, and also Sunny read a letter.. :scream:

I can't remember this... 

When it happen?? Anyone can remind me?? 

 

Same question here. Where is his stamped will. Because i dont recall seeing it in the ep.

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I'm a little confused over how Sunny wasn't that upset over NWS's death and how he was basically an afterthought.  I mean I get that he wasn't able to appear in the last couple of episodes, but when Sunny is thinking about her time at the palace, there were no flashback scenes to the moments that she shared with NWS.  It feels cheap, considering that the writer had put in the time to develop their relationship as something meaningful to the both of them. I'm firmly in the camp that she never had any romantic feelings for him, but she definitely had a strong relationship with him, as referenced by the fact that they both have risked their lives to protect one another. It's honestly really poor writing. To make matters worse, her lack of response to NWS's death is almost immediately juxtaposed by her dramatically crying over Lee Hyuk's death. This is over a guy that she has openly been disgusted with and has hated. It doesn't really make any sense to me for her character to be so upset over his death in comparison to the one guy that she had promised to protect this entire time. Maybe she was so upset over his death because she realized that his feelings for her were actually sincere and because of how tragic his end was at the hand of his own mother. She definitely wasn't reciprocating his intense love for her because as he was dying, she never said that she loved him or anything along that vein. She just told him that if he actually felt sorry, then he has to pay for his sins in the right way and not die on her. Does that mean that if he had survived those gunshot wounds, she would have forgave him? I'm not quite sure. When Lee Hyuk asks Sunny if their relationship is truly over, she says that she could never forgive him, considering the fact that he has never owned up to anything that has happened and has never stood up for what is right. He did so this time in a valiant effort, but would she have fallen back in love with him if he had survived? I'm skeptical and hopeful that that isn't really the case.  I'm just frustrated that we got definitive answers that Lee Hyuk and NWS both liked Sunny, but on Sunny's end, we're not quite sure where she stood with either of them.

 

 

I guess you could validate this decision by saying that Sunny's purpose in the palace was never to have any kind of romantic relationship with anyone and that it was  simply just to take down the empire, but it just feels messy to me. I guess you could reason that the scenes between Lee Hyuk and Sunny were necessary to have the audience believe that he did love her and could turn on his mother and the empire for her. The writer probably also played into the fact that a lot of Korean fans shipped the two together and didn't mind those scenes. I guess you could also reason that NWS and Sunny had to have their moments for NWS to be so protective over Sunny and to develop Lee Hyuk's character. I mean think about it. He flipped out on Min Yura for having known NWS personally and stopped feeling anything for her (probably his lust) because of this; however, when he finds out about Sunny's knowledge of who NWS is, he ends up forgiving her because he actually does love her and not lust after her. Ultimately, I think the direction of the story worked well for Lee Hyuk and how his character developed, but I'm confused over the trajectory of the other characters. I'm glad that Sunny got her vengeance, but I'm disappointed by the writing. I have to watch the last four episodes in subs, but this is my initial reaction. How do you guys feel?

 

P.S.  I would definitely be down for a SSR- Jang Nara romantic comedy. If you ignore mostly everything when it comes to the context of their relationship, they do have chemistry. It would be cool to see them in a relationship, under normal circumstances like Lee Hyuk wanted. LOL. 

 

 

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Sunny truly is the last empress. At least the title stayed true to itself...

 

The ending left me feeling exactly like when I watched Goblin. Happy but bittersweet.

 

To all the casts, crews of TLE, thank you for a great show. 

 

Note: I am so gonna miss LH. He’s the most interesting male lead I’ve seen so far. Seriously wished they didn’t kill him...     

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After watching the final ep with subs..

 

I think what moved Hyuk to actually act is NWS's death. He died hugging the bomb. He died protecting others. 

 

Added with Sunny's effort to help him during the blast, and Granny's last letter his reason to start to act was fueled up.

 

He went totally alone, saying he will live as Na Wang Shik and finish NWS's plan. Thinking about it NWS plan was to kill Hyuk and bring down the imperial family. Looking at that alone, i say Hyuk did his job. He really did what NWS planned to do all along: kill him and destroy the empire. He was killed by his own mum at her poppy farm. Hyuk was pinned for all his mother's wrongdoing, Evil mum said to the press that Hyuk is the one that did all wrong, even the drugs was his doing. Hyuk just accepts and played along. Little did evil mum know that Hyuk is doing NWS's deed. Him being killed by evil mum in that lab(?) in some sense the best way to capture her. To actually prosecute her. She has lied her way through a lot of situations and put the blame on others. This time around the evidence was glaring (Hyuk's body and those poppies and drugs and blood) and there were also witnessess. 

 

I liked the finale. There are some questions left unawnsered, but all the villains got their punishment and might I add, the punishments were apt for their crimes. Choi got life sentence, Nanny and Evil Mum are on death row. Evil mum also lost her son. Nanny also somewhat lost her daughter, since Ari lost her memory due to shock. The ambiguous villains Yura and Hyuk also were punished: Yura lost her mind, Hyuk lost his life. NWS died a heroic death, even till the end he still put others before him.

 

Hyuk's last words to Sunny were heartwrenching to say the least. It was so sad. I was a mess. It is one of the saddest moments in my kdrama watching history. So sad. And it was acted so well, I can feel the sadness through the screen (exaggerating or maybe not). And i liked Hyuk's framing in this ep. He was bathed in sunlight a lot. 

 

Pic from another ep. :tears:

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Hyuk's last words: (me: cries a river)

 

I will miss Hyuk most of all. There's no denying to that. He became the drama for me. I started without knowing much of the premise, I stayed for the villains, i stayed as long as this for him. From the early eps, I said he will wrench my heart if he dies regardless of being good or bad. I am glad he made a choice to attempt to right something wrong. I'm glad he died as the best version he could possibly ever be. 

 

 

 

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Have yet to watch with subs. Just got up not long ago... but I love what you've written above @katakwasabi it's pretty much my thoughts and feelings too.

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I just watched the final episode with subs and I feel sad, it's 2 AM here and now how am I supposed to sleep.:tears:

 

I watched this drama after I finished watching "The Smile Has Left Your Eyes" which was  really beautiful but really sad. after watching some clips of TLE on youtube I decided to watch it by saying ok this is exicting I can forget TSHLE. I didn't know this was coming:persevere:

 

thank you all. I really liked your posts:heart:

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5 hours ago, ErikaJ said:

I'm a little confused over how Sunny wasn't that upset over NWS's death and how he was basically an afterthought.  I mean I get that he wasn't able to appear in the last couple of episodes, but when Sunny is thinking about her time at the palace, there were no flashback scenes to the moments that she shared with NWS.  It feels cheap, considering that the writer had put in the time to develop their relationship as something meaningful to the both of them. I'm firmly in the camp that she never had any romantic feelings for him, but she definitely had a strong relationship with him, as referenced by the fact that they both have risked their lives to protect one another. It's honestly really poor writing. To make matters worse, her lack of response to NWS's death is almost immediately juxtaposed by her dramatically crying over Lee Hyuk's death. This is over a guy that she has openly been disgusted with and has hated. It doesn't really make any sense to me for her character to be so upset over his death in comparison to the one guy that she had promised to protect this entire time. Maybe she was so upset over his death because she realized that his feelings for her were actually sincere and because of how tragic his end was at the hand of his own mother. She definitely wasn't reciprocating his intense love for her because as he was dying, she never said that she loved him or anything along that vein. She just told him that if he actually felt sorry, then he has to pay for his sins in the right way and not die on her. Does that mean that if he had survived those gunshot wounds, she would have forgave him? I'm not quite sure. When Lee Hyuk asks Sunny if their relationship is truly over, she says that she could never forgive him, considering the fact that he has never owned up to anything that has happened and has never stood up for what is right. He did so this time in a valiant effort, but would she have fallen back in love with him if he had survived? I'm skeptical and hopeful that that isn't really the case.  I'm just frustrated that we got definitive answers that Lee Hyuk and NWS both liked Sunny, but on Sunny's end, we're not quite sure where she stood with either of them.

 

 

I guess you could validate this decision by saying that Sunny's purpose in the palace was never to have any kind of romantic relationship with anyone and that it was  simply just to take down the empire, but it just feels messy to me. I guess you could reason that the scenes between Lee Hyuk and Sunny were necessary to have the audience believe that he did love her and could turn on his mother and the empire for her. The writer probably also played into the fact that a lot of Korean fans shipped the two together and didn't mind those scenes. I guess you could also reason that NWS and Sunny had to have their moments for NWS to be so protective over Sunny and to develop Lee Hyuk's character. I mean think about it. He flipped out on Min Yura for having known NWS personally and stopped feeling anything for her (probably his lust) because of this; however, when he finds out about Sunny's knowledge of who NWS is, he ends up forgiving her because he actually does love her and not lust after her. Ultimately, I think the direction of the story worked well for Lee Hyuk and how his character developed, but I'm confused over the trajectory of the other characters. I'm glad that Sunny got her vengeance, but I'm disappointed by the writing. I have to watch the last four episodes in subs, but this is my initial reaction. How do you guys feel?

 

P.S.  I would definitely be down for a SSR- Jang Nara romantic comedy. If you ignore mostly everything when it comes to the context of their relationship, they do have chemistry. It would be cool to see them in a relationship, under normal circumstances like Lee Hyuk wanted. LOL. 

 

 

Yep he was just an after thought they handled every single thing around him extremely poorly.I never seen a lead done so poorly in a dram then becomes a complete after thought in the end its a complete joke. People might was well just watch  EP1 then stop thats his is complete story done and finish since they didnt bother  to actually doing anything with his plotlines

 

It makes me angry one of the most miserable person  whos suffer again an again though the drama like Sunny got nothing in the end, he could not even see his renege through like he wasted.

 

Such a waste of time to me.

 

 

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  [SPOILERS!!!][The Last Empress Roundup] Episode 49-52 (finale) 

 
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Nationwide ratings for the episodes that aired on February 20 (cr. Naver TV):
  • Episode 49 - 11.7%
  • Episode 50 - 13.8%
1. [+1284, -16] I feel like Choi Jin Hyuk was also dumbfounded while watching
↪ [+72, -0] Did they just kill Na Wang Sik? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

2. [+816, -29] Actor Choi Jin Hyuk-nim, don't come out in makjang dramas like this and only get hurt, please film a lot of sweet dramas like 'Devilish Charm'. I'll always support you in the future as well. Good luck with your fan-meeting ^^

3. [+427, -10] Soon Ok-ah, this isn't right, isn't it? 

4. [+388, -14] Choi Jin Hyuk: (Smirk..;;)

5. [+245, -11] There's no need for long words.... Writer-nim, let's get beat up

 


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Nationwide ratings for the episodes that aired on February 21 (cr. Naver TV):
 
1. [+1096, -30] So this is what they mean when they say "too many cooks spoil the broth"
 
2. [+809, -77] ㅋㅋㅋ.... I think the writer's standards and the director's standard were perfect for each other... I'll look forward to the next project as well. Since you helped us realize what embarrassment is.. The final winner of this drama is Choi Jin Hyuk who quit because he couldn't endure it until the end.. ㅋㅋ.. 
 
3. [+519, -17] Does the drama's ending want to get beat up? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
 
4. [+505, -9] Shin Eun Kyung's acting is awesome ㅋㅋ
 
5. [+339, -22] Among Kim Soon Ok's dramas, this is the biggest failure
 
6. [+184, -6] They should've saved Lee Hyuk... Did they really kill everyone because it was ending 
 
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1. [+3247, -65] From the first episode until the middle, it was fun and I liked it but the last minute ending was so freaking weird.. I thought they would be punished but who knew Lee Hyuk would die, it's cruel.. 
 
2. [+2071, -75] Did you just have to kill Emperor Lee Hyuk, does it feel good? Soon Ok-ah?
 
3. [+1810, -84] Shin Sung Rok and Jang Nara, please meet in a romantic comedy and melo, please
 
4. [+1046, -39] This was a drama that was saved by the actors' acting 
 
5. [+1015, -40] What's the reason for only Lee Hyuk dying  
 
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I'm absolutely sure if the story of this drama already change from the first plan... 

Besides, the different ending with the sinopsis, extention episode, weirdos scene, they also forget about the detail, where it must be put the story line, the clotes or other....

 

I think at first the writer already make A Ri as an Crowned Princess or something when the police going to the palace found SH corpse

Look at her clotes.. and hair do.

 

We know it similar to 1st episode and appear in 36th episode. But then A Ri still using another hair do, similar to the usual day... 

 

But after she announced as crowned princess (Ep 45) she never change her hair do just like in the past when she's just a princess. 

 

The ending also....

In the preview we know Sunny read some letter, Lee Hyuk write a letter and stamp it.. but where's this scene?? Why they just skip this I think this scene also important, how Sunny get authority.. 

 

It developed too much, so they don't have time to airing some scene.

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Ok, so the ending was PREDICTABLE. I got a feeling long ago that in the end Hyuk will die, and they did it. WOW .

MYR got the happy ending( even her mental not stable) , while Hyuk DIE. WOW .. AMAZING. WOW. Talk about disappointment. I thought they gonna make him a happy ending when he try to be NWS and want to expose what his mom did. It was so cool when finally he realize the wrong his mom doing all this time. Then it got ruined after he really die. He should be alive and ask for forgiveness just like Sunny said keep on asking beg for forgiveness. So he become NWS just to be dead in the end. what a joke.. such a joke. 

 

Seriously if this is act by bad actors the rating would be only 1 to 2% . such a joke. how can they kill Hyuk character like that? how can? seriously? all this time the one is doing the bad thing is his mom and seo kang hee. why they blame hyuk a lot and make him die? i really dissappointed with how they make Hyuk to be. He ddint involve in the drug his mom do. He didnt kill So hyun. He didnt INTENTIONALLY kill NWS mom. WTF IS THIS???

 

The only good thing is we finally know Sunny real feelings. She still love Hyuk actually. She still have that feelings, I know she somehow can forgive Hyuk. Just see the way she is when Hyuk is dying, he doesnt want him to die. After he die she look so sad.. I know she still have a feelings for him. I THOUGHT THEY GONNA MAKE HIM ALIVE. EVEN MYR STILL ALIVE. WTF. WHEN HE DYING HE SAID HE FEEL SO SICK BY THE PALACE. MEAN HE CAN BEAR WITH THE LIFE AS A NORMAL PEOPLE!!!!!! AS LONG AS HE WITH SUNNY I THINK HE CAN LEAVE THE PALACE AND LIVE AS NORMAL PEOPLE AND BE THE FATHER OF ARI....  I CANT BELIEVE THEY MAKE HIM DEAD!!

 

ILL NEVER WATCH ANY DRAMA THAT IS WRITTEN BY THIS WRITER KIM SOON OK ANYMORE. NEVER. WASTING MY TIME. 

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4 hours ago, ErikaJ said:

I'm a little confused over how Sunny wasn't that upset over NWS's death and how he was basically an afterthought.  I mean I get that he wasn't able to appear in the last couple of episodes, but when Sunny is thinking about her time at the palace, there were no flashback scenes to the moments that she shared with NWS.  It feels cheap, considering that the writer had put in the time to develop their relationship as something meaningful to the both of them. I'm firmly in the camp that she never had any romantic feelings for him, but she definitely had a strong relationship with him, as referenced by the fact that they both have risked their lives to protect one another. It's honestly really poor writing. To make matters worse, her lack of response to NWS's death is almost immediately juxtaposed by her dramatically crying over Lee Hyuk's death. This is over a guy that she has openly been disgusted with and has hated. It doesn't really make any sense to me for her character to be so upset over his death in comparison to the one guy that she had promised to protect this entire time. Maybe she was so upset over his death because she realized that his feelings for her were actually sincere and because of how tragic his end was at the hand of his own mother. She definitely wasn't reciprocating his intense love for her because as he was dying, she never said that she loved him or anything along that vein. She just told him that if he actually felt sorry, then he has to pay for his sins in the right way and not die on her. Does that mean that if he had survived those gunshot wounds, she would have forgave him? I'm not quite sure. When Lee Hyuk asks Sunny if their relationship is truly over, she says that she could never forgive him, considering the fact that he has never owned up to anything that has happened and has never stood up for what is right. He did so this time in a valiant effort, but would she have fallen back in love with him if he had survived? I'm skeptical and hopeful that that isn't really the case.  I'm just frustrated that we got definitive answers that Lee Hyuk and NWS both liked Sunny, but on Sunny's end, we're not quite sure where she stood with either of them.

 

I think Sunny real feelings is she love Hyuk. Why? Because she said this before, i not quite remember the sentence but she said 'do u think 10 years of feeling can go away like that?' She love Hyuk for 10 years even as a fan before. I dont think her feelings for NWS is romantic love. Its just like a brother and sister relationship. Its because they protect each other like how siblings protect one another. Thats what I see from their relationship. I dont think Sunny really fall in love with NWS. Its only NWS that fall in love with her. I think Sunny heart already closed for love when she knew Hyuk cheating on her and used her as alibi. All she think about is making things right again and going for justice. I think Sunny is not being honest with her feelings all this time. She knew she still love Hyuk but she also knew that Hyuk is a bad person so she draw a line between them when Hyuk fall in love with her. But everytime Hyuk in dangers, she always save him. I feel like its just an excuse for her when she said to NWS not that I trust him, but its actually she really trust him. Even in the end she doesnt want Hyuk to die. If she doesnt have any feelings towards Hyuk, she will not be crying.  But she cried and she remember all those moment with Hyuk. I feel like finally Sunny is getting a sincere ' I love you' from Hyuk. Which is so sad... The writer ddint give Hyuk a chance to make things right and instead chose to KILL OFF his character just like that. What a waste and a dissapointment. Im so happy when Hyuk said Ill finish what u cant. Im so proud of him that finally he comes to his sense. But and then all that went downt to hill, just because writer want his character to die instead of being the HERO. I thought he finally going to become a hero and help to bring down the imperial family. But I got so dissapointed. It ddint went to the way that I hope for. They failed. I agree with the Knetizens, the writer failed. The ending is good, but they way they make Hyuk to be, is totally FAILED.

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10 hours ago, ktcjdrama said:

Come to think of it, I think maybe the main focus was always LH all along...

The main focus is SUNNY all along. 2nd is Hyuk. Why they didint show happy ending for Princess So Jin??? She deserves it. What happen to her?

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This drama went downhill after they making Hyuk character comical and waste so much screentime on him being like that.What for all that?? For him to die in the end.. He even go to Sunny's father house before to experience what it likes eating with a family. It would be fun if the ending Hyuk still asking for forgiveness from Oh family. Cause its not Hyuk's fault that the blood got stolen. its his mom that stole it. But well , i think its not possible in their minds. i still cant accept hyuk dead. 

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Why Lee Hyuk don't honest toward Sunny all along, they have a lot of time together.... 

 

1) he save sunny's parent from the jailed by ED, and ask Woo Bin to keep on silent

2) he ruin some stuff, so Sunny can get that stuf

3) he love Sunny but keep on silent all the time, afraid if he will lost Sunny if he love her.

4) he accept his mom wrong doing as his fault, although it's not him

5) he stop and lock sunny because he want to protect her from ED

6) he cold toward Sunny when she is awake after collapse one week, but he is in her side along time, not eating, or sleeping

7) he also secretly playing as Na Wang Shik to stop his mother, he lies to Sunny if Na Wang Shik still alive, and order police to catch him in all korean empire, but actually he haunt himself, he's pretend to be Na Wang Shik. 

 

I think Lee Hyuk is her true love, not Na Wang Shik and she finally get true love from Lee Hyuk. All along Lee Hyuk with Sunny never said I LOVE YOU and in the end of his life that's his last word. 

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