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[Drama 2018-2019] Empress Dignity / The Last Empress, 황후의 품격

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Wait, what?!? How did Yu-ra's burn marks disappear completely from her face? Those plastic surgeons in SK are REALLY good - never seen a burn mark heal that fast!

 

On a side note, I always get confused when you guys use the abbreviation ED for the "Empress Dowager". I always think of ED as being... :D (watch it on your own risk)

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11 hours ago, partyon said:

Wait, what?!? How did Yu-ra's burn marks disappear completely from her face? Those plastic surgeons in SK are REALLY good - never seen a burn mark heal that fast!

 

On a side note, I always get confused when you guys use the abbreviation ED for the "Empress Dowager". I always think of ED as being... :D (watch it on your own risk)

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If you think this plastic surgeon is good, you should see the one over at 'left handed wife'.  Not only did the surgeon make person A look exactly like another, he also gave him that person's voice! haha. genius! 

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5 hours ago, cucumbermelon88 said:

 

Thank you

Preview IG: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bs40fImBSSr/

 

 ** ED tries to point at LH as the one who killed SH.   Maybe she does that because SH’s dad is coming after her so she tries to divert his attention to LH?  OR she is trying to bring back LH under her skirt from Sunny by putting him on the spot?

 

Here is what ED says in the preview.
LH mother : He saw Queen Sohyeon push to the pond and kill her.
LH mother: tell that you saw the emperor pushed SH into the pond and killed her.

 

MYR : I'm going to say hello to the palace, Minyura.  
           Nawangsik is in front of you.
MYR: A court lady MYR,  entering the palace (something like that?)  
          NWS is in front of me ( two different separate scenes?)

 

byun sunsaeng : It's time to bring this revolution down from the throne.
Byun: It’s about time to bring LH down from the throne.

 

LY : l am It's a real Vincent Lee that I wrote this book.
LY: I am the real Vincent who wrote the book.

 

PS  Okay it looks like Sunny is going out on the full scale of revenge against the imperial family.  She makes him act like her puppet.  I am beginning to wonder about the writer’s intention with LH.   Does the writer try to redeem LH by making him so helpless under Sunny so eventually Sunny comes to regret how she treats him and she will forgive him??   

 

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@booha It does seem like the writer is glossing over LH's crimes.  It's not just misdeeds but criminal actions.  

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I saw few people here commented that Na Wang Shik (Chun Woo Bin) wronged Oh Sunny as he tried to kill her.

 

Na Wang Shik never tried killing Oh Sunny. He came in the royal palace only for taking revenge but when he saw that not only the Emperor had no regards for the Empress, he also was in a relationship with Min Yura, he wanted to save sunny from this hellhole. He understood that it’d be a matter of time that they discard Oh Sunny. So he tried to save her by proposing to kill her for the Emperor. Sure, he needed to earn Lee Hyuk’s trust too with this plan so that it helps his revenge but that doesn’t mean he actually tried to kill her. If it wasn’t him, Lee Hyuk might have tried to kill Sunny by other method. NWS also prepared her rescue as well. He didn’t want to blow his cover so he never said anything to Sunny. Even when he threatened her family it was also done so that they all agree to go abroad and be saved from these evil royals. Na Wang Shik wanted to save sunny from the start because he knew it very well how evil these people are and this filthy palace is not place for an innocent person such as Sunny.

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Guys, I'm not against Pyeha-Sunny shippers if you guys prefer this ship. I respect your likes though I prefer Woobin-Sunny couple. However, I saw the comments saying bad stuff about Jang Nara such as saying her too clingy to Choi Jin Hyuk. Those fans actually support Sunny-Pyeha because they still delutional with CHJ's previous drama, Devilish Joy. They support Sunny-Pyeha and said 'please stay alone Na Wang Dik till end of series because you already got one, Hulk'. I think Hulk is his nick name in Devilish Joy or something. Oh my...this delulu fans...  I wasn't follow Nara and Jinhyuk before, so I wasn't aware their friendship. Whatever it is saying bad things about Nara just because they're so closer is so wrong. In my eyes, it always Jinhyuk who likes initiate small touch or skinship with her. These fans are too much. I'm not saying those who support Sunny-Pyeha all like that, but it opens my heart there are some delulu fans against Dunny-Woobin coz they don't move on from JH's last drama. 

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That Behind the Scenes video was super fun. I wish we would get English subtitles too. The actors seem to be having fun while shooting.

 

I wonder whether they really 'hit' the actors while enacting a scene. It wouldn't be fun to be at the receiving end of the. :tears:

 

Thanks for the preview subtitles.

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Waiting next ep... 

 

I wanna try NWS diet... :wub:

Not only loss his weight but also can increasing his height.. 

Amazing

 

Check out how Min Yura and NWS in 1st ep, and how Min Yu Ra looks Woo Bin at 24th ep, thats a great diet method. :wub:

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Choi Jin Hyuk be like "They're bullying me together..TTTTT".. :D

He also teases Jang nara a lot in behind the scene.. Shin Sung Rok too..

Jang Nara cutely asked if she can shoot the slaping scene again.. look at CJH's expression.. I guess Jang Nara really does enjoy slaping scenes these days. 

 

Arrggh..why can't SBS provide english sub for the behind the scene..why! 

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Soompi article

https://www.soompi.com/article/1296081wpp/7-heart-melting-moments-last-empress-episodes-33-34

 

:wacko:omo... i have to disagree with this part of the article - err.... itz pretty obvious uri cute empress did not forgive him :

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"1. Hyuk’s apology

First up, Hyuk (Shin Sung Rok) finally swallows his pride and apologizes to Sunny (Jang Nara) for having received the blood transfusion that would have saved Sunny’s mother’s life years ago. As Hyuk almost never admits to being in the wrong, this is a huge step for the Emperor, and it’s nice to see that he’s trying to be a better person.

Equally touching is Sunny’s graciousness in conceding that it was not really Hyuk’s fault, which is incredibly generous considering the situation led to her mother’s death."

 

:glasses:o..kay.. campaigning in progress:

:naughty: Say No! to Big Bad Wolf!

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He juz want her as a trophy...tsk...tsk

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On 1/19/2019 at 10:12 PM, xprosperity said:

I personally love Princess Ari and her development too; ever since she got proper knowledge and discipline from Sunny, she's becoming a different person. However, I'm unsure if her change is REAL or due to the fact that she knows that Sunny is the true heir to all of the inheritance left behind... Either or, I'm still warm inside from all of the lovely moments they share. I love how the nanny just switches side and just decides to tell the Emperor everything: from the peanut allergy to SH Empress's death... 

 

I think AR loves Sunny and fixated on her bc Sunny is the Empress.  In her child's mind, when she became the Emperor's daughter, it was a given that her mother would be the Empress.  After that, I think she realized that Sunny was the only one who actually had any real affection for her.

 

On 1/19/2019 at 4:29 PM, nara0603 said:

just curious?

 

1. what will sunny think if she know about min yura is woo bin/wang shik x-lover?

 

I believe Sunny already knows.  I think the late Empress SH's father explained everything to Sunny.  And Sunny has that locket that shows NWS, MYR, and little DS.  And the old man explained WB/WS's history so I think she already knows.

 

On 1/20/2019 at 12:06 AM, stroppyse said:

In a way, I do feel bad for the nanny, though she's pretty much an evil character who betrayed her friend and allowed the Emperor into her bed for the potential benefit that she might gain. It was also hinted at one point that she planned to get pregnant to have LH's baby, and given that she conceived after only 1 night, I find some credibility to that. But, anyway, she is a true mother after all, fighting for what she thinks is best for her daughter. Unfortunately, that included raising AR to be an insufferable snob "aware" of her position and with very little joy in her life. In her nanny's position, probably in order to cultivate what she sees as the proper royal attitude, it doesn't seem that she cultivated much love into AR, nor showed her much, if any, actual affection. Thus, AR's rejection of her nanny as her mother, despite knowing that the nanny was the one who actually gave birth to her.

 

Anyway, the nanny has redeemed herself a bit to me in the latest episodes because she realized how much harm the DE might do to AR as a pawn in one of her schemes. Despite being AR's grandmother, it's clear the DE doesn't care at all if AR lives or dies, and the nanny has finally fully realized it, versus SN who has always protected and cared for AR. Despite her jealousy of the relationship between SN and AR, I think the nanny has cast her lot with the one who will protect her daughter, and thus, she's quick to switch sides. The switch was quick and it wasn't the most deftly handled, but I'm willing to give it a stretch since I do think that AR is the only person the nanny truly loves, and that characteristic has been consistent through the drama.

 

A part of me thinks that the Nanny doesn't really love AR, and only sees her as her way to power.  I have doubts over whether AR is really LH's daughter.  But, more than that, I think that the Nanny now regrets that AR doesn't recognize her as a mother.  But someone as wicked and ambitious as the Nanny--I think her main concern should something happen to AR would be that she has lost her position.

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I agree with @supergal99that Sunny was faking her acceptance of Hyuk's apology.  And that Hyuk wants Sunny as a trophy.  Sunny became 'interesting' to him when he saw her with WB.  He looked so jealous and had to remind himself that WB is carrying out orders to create a scandal with the Empress.  Also he is lonely right now without anyone to lean on and get emotional support from.  The moment the tramp worms her way back in, he will lose his fascination with Sunny.  

While we are all multifaceted. I do wish the writer will stop making his character so funny and endearing.  Or maybe it is the actor who is too skilled in his craft!  It's so easy to forget that the Emperor has done many evil deeds and need to be punished by the law. 

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Whaha whenever I see the photos of Sunny and LH together, they reminded me about their relationship which is based on such a level of deception. :unsure:    Like their grand royal wedding photo, we know LH acted with a double face to hide his disgust for Sunny. He even tried to kill her during the wedding. haha    And then the recent adoring family photo of Sunny and Ari and LH,  this time it’s Sunny who turned to act with a double face while hiding a dagger in her heart. haha   
If there is Sunny-LH chemistry, maybe it is about JNR-SSR’s??   Besides nobody talked about their chemistry when LH was cruel to her.    It was so painful to watch how LH treated Sunny with deception and cruelty.  Now it was equally painful to watch how Sunny had to endure LH because she wants revenge.    Anytime LH was near Sunny, her whole body quivered.   lol  But then who knows some like a makjang chemistry!! hahaha

 
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@booha It does seem like the writer is glossing over LH's crimes.  It's not just misdeeds but criminal actions.  

 

Yes I feel too very uneasy about what the writer will do with LH.:sweatingbullets:     But @Lmangla (thank you)  gave a wonderful explanation about who the writer is: The writer has a firm line about what is good and bad, and the bad ones will get punished according to their crimes.  
This drama is about little people fighting against a rich and powerful but corrupt monarch.  Since it’s a kdrama, the writer will make sure that justice will prevail and the good ones will defeat the bad ones.  
We know LH already crossed over to the dark side,  so, even if the writer tries to redeem LH, she will still lay out a proper punishment for LH.  I am okay with the piggyback of redemption on any punishment.
Still I’m curious how the writer will go about LH’s redemption if that’s what the writer is trying to do.  
 
I’m quoting @Lmangla’s comment (actually two, as they can be a great comfort when these kdrama villains get under my skin so I can remember about their ultimate punishment. haha   :lol:

 

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On 1/19/2019 at 10:21 AM, Lmangla said:

feel like I keep repeating myself :sweatingbullets:....

 

so I get there are some who see more chemistry between sunny and lee hyuk and find him very charming,  but please see the genre of this drama. this is not a rom-com. this is not one of those school series where folks are going to debate who the lead ends up with and there are wars over which ship will sail.

 

this is glorious makjang with revenge theme. lee hyuk committed serious crimes. not one but SEVERAL. he is the villain and not the male lead. and this writer is brilliant old-fashioned makjang style -- this means those who commit a wrong will pay and there will be serious consequences. he, the empress mother, yura, nanny and the entire villain gang are going to get punished. it won't be a slap on the wrist where lee hyuk gets redeemed by a love story. sorry that isn't going to happen because this isn't a rom-com. he will face serious consequences because his actions harmed/killed several people.

 

this genre is all about showing viewers that there is justice in this world and everyone reaps what they sow regardless of power, status or money. a sob story doesn't excuse your actions. you hurt someone -- the heavens will punish you. the key message of such dramas is how the good get their due. who are the good in this drama? sunny and wang shik. 

 

the interactions with sunny, lee hyuk getting besotted with her, acting like a buffoon -- all of these are typical of this writer's style and occurs in all her dramas. but this is the starting of the downfall of our main villains. her dramas are all  light hearted revenge/justice feel.

 

sunny is not going to end up with lee hyuk. it doesn't matter if she even ends up wang shik because ultimately, these dramas are about justice. not about finding love. justice is the goal. so justice for 8-9 people who got killed and 17 fake/close/attempted deaths. that's our kill count! this drama is about sunny and her gang cleaning up the imperial family system.

 

don't treat this drama as a typical rom-com because it isn't. so let's move beyond who sunny is going to end up with and who she does or does not have chemistry with or whether the love story is moving or not.... let's talk about the main themes of this drama -- revenge, justice, social responsibility... as well as the crazy laughs and twists... let's have fun chingus!

 

 

 

 

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On 1/19/2019 at 11:28 AM, Lmangla said:

yea the focus on the love lines is frustrating and takes the fun out of the discussions. you and I have seen pretty much all of the writer's previous works and we know how she writes. there is no question about who the leads are and who are the villains. lee hyuk is the villain. and the OTP is wang shik and sunny. whether or not, it is temporary or permanent does not matter as the focus is really on justice. so I get if folks don't feel wang shik-sunny pairing but the point of this drama is not a love story. and in pretty much all her dramas, there is no grand romance between OTP. the revenge arc is the main journey.

 

have also seen tons of daily and weekend kdramas over the years and so the strong focus on the villain or him having so much layers is not surprising or confusing to me. this writer generally writes long dramas (daily/weekend) where folks are used to seeing such villains. this isn't a rom-com where a stone hearted man with some sob story is healed by the love of a naive woman. so no matter how much folks may enjoy SSR as lee hyuk, he is still the villain. and villains have to break in spirit and truly feel the weight of their actions before any redemption arc takes place. lee hyuk is nowhere near rock bottom.. 

 

yea @autumna ~ as you said, the synopsis of the drama is all about the lies, secrets and bad deeds of the imperial empire. it is not a love triangle drama where we have to wonder which ship will sail...

 

 

 

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https://youtu.be/0gVkY4Dkdgw

Hey guys I covered OST Part 4 for this drama please give it a listen

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Will we have WB-SN dugun-dugun moments tonight or the royal sibling again will disturb them? Aigooo.... 

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