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[Drama 2018-2019] Empress Dignity / The Last Empress, 황후의 품격

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Too much cuteness and sweetness can kill!.. this is exactly how I feel after watching the last few episodes when the writer decided to make LH show the comical side of him. Initially it was ok as it brought some humor into an otherwise a rather depressing and dark side of the show but after a while, it becomes an overkill. I really must be one of the very few who feel extremely annoyed and irritated when LH starts to act cute to gain Sunny’s affection. Sadly many viewers are so taken in by this that they do not see how unstable LH is

 

princess So Jin hit the nail on its head when she said  this to LH.. “You were flipping about how much you like mIn Yura not too long ago and now a date with the empress?..you are crude and dirty”

 

i guess this is really the style of writing of our writer-nim.. 3 dimensional character for villains and 2 dimensional for the good guys. All the casts have been excellent in this drama. SSR is an excellent actor in portraying the unstable LH and JNR.. she is really a great actress.

i just feel sorry for CJH who has done such an excellent job in bringing the character of WB to life and yet most viewers feel that his scenes are boring. I am waiting to see how the revenge plan unfolds for WB and the showdown between him and LH. This has been put aside in the 2nd part of this drama. Of all the characters I pity him the most. Lost his family in a blink of an eye.. the woman whom he gave all his love to betrayed him and killed his own mother and now even wants him killed.. he may not even survive as there is bullet  in his brain.

 

From the preview, I guess the comical scenes will stop (I hope!) and we will see more intense scenes between the villains and the good since almost all the evil ones are resurrected esp Min YR. I just don’t understand her at all.. how can she time and time again use her own son for her benefits and easily sacrifice him when she wants to. If the writer is also going to redeem her at the end of this show, I will definitely throw something at the TV set.

I fear for Dong Shik and WB.  I doubt WS will be revealed in the next episode as it is too early esp if they are going to extend the show.

 

i am not going to predict any ending but as I said many many times, writer-Nim please do not cave in to what viewers what to see but stay true to your story that you oriniglaly created.

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11 hours ago, jbeanie1709 said:

Too much cuteness and sweetness can kill!.. this is exactly how I feel after watching the last few episodes when the writer decided to make LH show the comical side of him. Initially it was ok as it brought some humor into an otherwise a rather depressing and dark side of the show but after a while, it becomes an overkill. I really must be one of the very few who feel extremely annoyed and irritated when LH starts to act cute to gain Sunny’s affection. Sadly many viewers are so taken in by this that they do not see how unstable LH is

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I couldn't agree more! This is exactly how I feel. I may be in the minority, but I don't feel his redemption arc is being hadled the correct way. It feels forced and it doesn't make me root for the character at all. :huh:  All I see is the man getting crazier and crazier every episode. If I were SN, I'd run for the hills, tbh. 

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28 minutes ago, sw33tm3lody said:

 

I couldn't agree more! This is exactly how I feel. I may be in the minority, but I don't feel his redemption arc is being hadled the correct way. It feels forced and it doesn't make me root for the character at all. :huh:  All I see is the man getting crazier and crazier every episode. If were SN, I'd run for the hills, tbh. 

 

I'm right there with you @sw33tm3lody  and @jbeanie1709 feels more unhinged. 

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Whoever predicted that the rotting corpse from the first episode was SH was correct. Seeing the body with the necklace (though her body looks completely intact and fine compared to the charred body in ep1) confirms that it was SH. Probably that awful smell of flowers was really the corpse. 

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With the double date, I though it was hilarious how when SN gets bumped into WS, he doesn't even let go, he just started dancing right away with her. Clearly he did not want to let her go. 

Also, the dance was very telling in how each character felt towards each other. Both of the siblings are just being petty and trying to keep what they think should be theirs, but SN and WS both did not look very happy except for when they were dancing with each other. Even when SN got pulled back to dance with the Emperor, she is clearly not happy with him. 

And WS is getting pretty jealous now that SN is playing nice to LH. 

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Preview: eventhough Sunny persecutes Lee Hyuk, he will still fight for it.

 

Hopefully Lee Hyuk doesn't change, and goes berserk like when he knew Min Yu Ra betrayed him.

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So glad to find out that there are still many ppl with Sunny-WB shipper. I think CJH did a good job cos a lot of his acting are rather internalize and hidden than expressive:cry: 

I also can’t  help to think that during the double date, I think Sunny is jealous of the WB-SJ dancing and intentionally planned the“bump” into WB-SJ couple ( cos when LH invite her to dance, her eyes actually sway and looks like she is having something up her sleeve. PS: I think JNR did a great job !!) hehe .. 

 

I feel that DongShik might not identify WB, maybe they already “train” him up when they discover MYR had escaped ? 

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i am surprised that quite a few people is not satisfied with Lee Hyuk (emperor)'s arc whereas i feel like his arc is really handled well. For one, he was abandoned and hated by his parents ever since he was a little boy. the evil dowager and her husband are also not a very good example for their kids obviously so no wonder Lee Hyuk and the prince grew up to be kind of rude-ish and unstable. Hence i feel like Lee Hyuk's evilness. and to the extend of killing people to get rid of them is just something he takes from his parents and the palace environment, like i mean thats how it is, kill if you dont want be killed. I like the paralels we see between Lee Hyuk and princess Ari. Grow up under the dowager's care you will turn out like Lee Hyuk, but Princess Ari under Oh Sunny's care hopefully is still redeemable.

 

Lee Hyuk only chooses very few people to trust and love (like when he chose to love Min Yu Ra and Woo Bin/Na Wang Shik he really loves and trusts them) but when those people betray his kindness he will go berserk and will resort to the 'kill that person' evil. Also, i think he just longs to be loved and he also longs for a loveable environment, so when he realizes that Empress Sunny is a kind and loving person, i feel like its justifiable if he immediately falls for her and if he wants her to love him back. Because i think he just wants an environment where he can love and trust people, and vice versa. 

 

NB. i wonder what actually happened to Lee Hyuk's and vincent Lee's father. Did he pass away because of some sickness? 

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I just don't get people are saying Lee Hyuk is pity due to the miss-education and hatred form his parents. Because from what I see, he's truly a mommy's boy. And it was the reason why he can't be feel sorry for the wrong things he's done just like Princess Ari before. He always get what he wants. Same as Princess So Jin. Though she's not as evil as her brother, but she's still selfish. If Lee Hyuk did wrong, his mom will cover it for him. It just him being mentality weak. That's why he's easy to get manipulated and used.

His redemption is nothing rather than just being nice to Sunny. And we know the reason just because he suddenly fall for her. And I don't think it is love either since he can't let her go and even saying he won't divorce her till they died. At least now he's aware about his daughter and wanna protect the empress though I'm nt sure if he knows Sunny in love with Wang Sik he still be the nice guy that latest episode show us.

No matter how regret he is, he have to pay what he did. And he needs to prove that by action not just being cutie.

However, I enjoying him being fool with his sister. They're really sibling lol.

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I kind of wonder if LH is aware that SN set him up to read that passage. If yes, I worry he’ll become more controlling next episode :( I kind of could see him - being the psycho he is - preventing her from leaving her corridors and then WB, feeling bad for her, setting up the star display outside her window to cheer her up 

 

 

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2 hours ago, stevii said:

Lee Hyuk only chooses very few people to trust and love (like when he chose to love Min Yu Ra and Woo Bin/Na Wang Shik he really loves and trusts them) but when those people betray his kindness he will go berserk and will resort to the 'kill that person' evil. Also, i think he just longs to be loved and he also longs for a loveable environment, so when he realizes that Empress Sunny is a kind and loving person, i feel like its justifiable if he immediately falls for her and if he wants her to love him back. Because i think he just wants an environment where he can love and trust people, and vice versa. 

 

Its interesting because when you think about it LH actually did have what he truly wanted and longed for with SH, someone who loves only him, a family and a lovable environment but it was him that destroyed it, yes ED manipulated him but he is the one in the end that didn't trust SH enough. 

 

Its like everything is coming back full circle against LH. SH and SJ was not real and they were loyal and never betrayed him and he never fully trusted them but now with Sunny/CB, feelings are developing and they are actually his enemies trying to bring him down and get revenge and he fully trusts them. 

 

How will he react once he finds this out...?

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54 minutes ago, PutriSalju said:

I just don't get people are saying Lee Hyuk is pity due to the miss-education and hatred form his parents. Because from what I see, he's truly a mommy's boy. And it was the reason why he can't be feel sorry for the wrong things he's done just like Princess Ari before. He always get what he wants. Same as Princess So Jin. Though she's not as evil as her brother, but she's still selfish. If Lee Hyuk did wrong, his mom will cover it for him. It just him being mentality weak. That's why he's easy to get manipulated and used.

 

 

Mmm. Your words contradict here. You don't get why people say Hyuk is a result of miss-education. But you say he is just like princess Ari before she met Sunny. Always getting what he wants stems from wrong education. Being selfish also stems from wrong education. If we werent shown his childhood i might have thought differently. But his childhood was shown, and he was brought up with no compassion whatsoever and became a spoiled brat and even worse a spoiled adult. Indeed, being mentally weak is also a factor. He did have a good relationship with SoHyun, but when pushed on edge and being fed by lies by his mum and SH's best friend, his mind was taken over by anger and led to bad judgement. What he did was not right. Being weak minded that he is, bad upbringing was just a catalyst for bad things to occur. (Bare in mind, only in dramaland am i trying to reason with this absurdity :sweatingbullets:)

 

54 minutes ago, PutriSalju said:

His redemption is nothing rather than just being nice to Sunny. And we know the reason just because he suddenly fall for her. And I don't think it is love either since he can't let her go and even saying he won't divorce her till they died. At least now he's aware about his daughter and wanna protect the empress though I'm nt sure if he knows Sunny in love with Wang Sik he still be the nice guy that latest episode show us.

No matter how regret he is, he have to pay what he did. And he needs to prove that by action not just being cutie.

However, I enjoying him being fool with his sister. They're really sibling lol.

 

Awww..baby steps. He can't change immediately and give us whiplash. It would be too fast of a growth if he decides to let her go to wangshik for her own good. As you said, he always gets what he wants, how can he change his norm? Its hard to do. Change is gradual. At least he's trying to be nice now with his apology and quiet vow to protect sunny. His wrong deeds are not forgotten. Even the show reminds us of his wrongdoings. He will get punished sooner or later. 

 

I'm preparing for angst when Hyuk knows who Woo bin really is. I expect it would be a great learning curve for Hyuk to be nicer and beg for forgiveness. But it might also be used to show that Hyuk is cray and he will unleash his wrath to Woo Bin. Hua3

 

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1 hour ago, PutriSalju said:

I just don't get people are saying Lee Hyuk is pity due to the miss-education and hatred form his parents. Because from what I see, he's truly a mommy's boy. And it was the reason why he can't be feel sorry for the wrong things he's done just like Princess Ari before. He always get what he wants. Same as Princess So Jin. Though she's not as evil as her brother, but she's still selfish. If Lee Hyuk did wrong, his mom will cover it for him. It just him being mentality weak. That's why he's easy to get manipulated and used.

 

I haven't watch the most recent episode, so I can't say much about his current action. And..I'm just going to speak on my behalf on why I think he is pitiful. 

 

First, his crime cannot be dismiss. There's no doubt that he had broke the law and he must pay for his crime no matter what kind of background he grew up in. He has committed 1st degree murder (WS's mom), ordered several assassination (against WS, Sunny, and Yura as well), committed several attempts on murder (WS, Yura, Grandma, Sunny, the head body guard, his first empress, etc), falsifying documents (Grandma's will), and other crimes. These are criminal act and he should be jailed and punished for his crime. There's no gray area, and he shouldn't get a slap on the wrist for his actions. 

 

However, he is pitiful. He's a victim of child abuse, I cannot forget about that. The things he experienced is ten times worst that Yoon (who was doted on), his sister (who was neglected because she's not the heir), and his daughter (who was neglected by her dad, but was save by a loving step-mom). He was physically whipped by his dad when ever he does something that seems like an embarrassment to his dad, he was mentally abused by his dad and mom who don't hold back on putting him down and comparing him with Yoon, and he was threatened, all the time when he was young (his mom set his parrots on fire...as a warning for being disobedient). On one hand, his parents abuse him, and on the other hand, they put on a false pretense that they love him...and the sad thing is that, they never hide the fact that he's disposable if he doesn't meet their expectation. 

 

He's a mama's boy...he strives to get his mother's approval since he was young because like most children, they hope to receive love from their parents and approval. But that's not the only reason why he's a mama's boy...he's a mama's boy because he was threaten to be one (listen to your mom or you'll become like the parrot, listen to your dad or you will be punish for it, listen to your parents or we can dispose of you anytime) since young, and that mentality is very hard to break. For some people who are the victim of an abusive relationship, it is very hard for them to walk away from it. They have a lot of things they fear for because they were conditioned to believe they must rely on their abuser and that their abuser would hurt them if they escape. 

 

So in a way, I pity him because he is a victim of child abuse and he is still in an abusive relationship. He's still living with his abuser. His mind is scarred....he still has panic attacks when little things trigger his past trama. These ghosts in his memory still haunt him. However, as I said at the beginning, his background does not excuse his criminal action, and he would need to pay for his crime. 

 

And, I remember in one post, you asked why aren't people talk about WS's pitiful situation. I guess it's because the writing focuses more on the villain, so that's why people tend to discuss the villain more than WS. As for WS...he's pitiful. The woman that he trusted took away his mother, and he had a ticking bomb inside his head. His whole world was turned upside down in a matter of a few days. He's constantly living on pins and needles and he needed to discard his identity because he would be assassinated. He had no choice...he's pitiful. In some way, Sunny is pitiful too because she is stuck in an abusive relationship that she doesn't want to be in. I said, "in some way," because Sunny choose to use the relationship as the mean to discover the mystery in the palace. 

 

Anyways...that's my opinion. Also...does LH like Sunny...maybe. I think I tend to agree with your opinion on this issue. 

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