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[Drama 2018-2019] Encounter / Boyfriend, 남자친구

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@africandramalover thanks for pointing out the fact that the damage to JH's camera view finder forces him to look at the world and SH without the lens. Also that it makes him ready to save her as she falls asleep and almost falls off that ledge.  The fact, too, that SH's car breaks his camera glass must be part of their destiny to be together? I watch things more with my heart than my head. Grateful for the sharing of things I'd otherwise miss.

 

One thing: I hate that this drama can be categorized as a "Noona romance" rather than two people made for each other.  I don't remember hearing the term "oppa romance" which I guess is everything else. 

 

About SH, I like her best feisty. Would like to see more of her as take charge executive.  It worries me still when she's so sleepy.  I guess this goes back to @bebebisous33's analysis of SH as Sleeping Beauty? Enough of the fairy tale for me. Would like to see her fully awake. 

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Why is it so silent here all of a sudden? :ph34r:

 

@NongpeeP

You are so right about this line "women are always attracted to 'versions of their fathers" ... And now that you pointed it out, both are almost the same. Thinking about it now, KJH can be successful as much as CSH's dad. 

 

Im super excited on what will happen between KJH and CSH's dad. From the looks of the still, it looks like Mr. Name has something to do with this encounter. Again. :joy:

 

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Just now, dukesa1122 said:

Why is it so silent here all of a sudden? :ph34r:

 

@NongpeeP

You are so right about this line "women are always attracted to 'versions of their fathers" ... And now that you pointed it out, both are almost the same. Thinking about it now, KJH can be successful as much as CSH's dad. 

 

Im super excited on what will happen between KJH and CSH's dad. From the looks of the still, it looks like Mr. Name has something to do with this encounter. Again. :joy:

 

Actually I guess you could also say that men are attracted to women like their mothers? So WS attracted to SH as successful hotel CEO because she reminds him (misreading her completely) of ruthless cold no-nonsense mommy? 

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25 minutes ago, ihyw said:

Actually I guess you could also say that men are attracted to women like their mothers? So WS attracted to SH as successful hotel CEO because she reminds him (misreading her completely) of ruthless cold no-nonsense mommy? 

 

:joy: I think that only applies if you have a good relationship with your father, and mother. I can't say the same thing for WS. The reason why he's even pursuing her more right now is because she's showing a different side of her that WS didn't even imagine she has. Ergo, NOT like his mother. :lol:

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9 hours ago, gumtaek said:

 

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Sorry for the naivety, but what are these color pattern about?  I know they are emphasizing the colors of the pictures but does it have a figurative implication? Please enlighten me. 

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10 minutes ago, Glycie Manongsong said:

Sorry for the naivety, but what are these color pattern about?  I know they are emphasizing the colors of the pictures but does it have a figurative implication? Please enlighten me. 

 

No it doesn't, it's just the colors that they used/blend for this scene :rolleyes:

 

 

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2 hours ago, ihyw said:

Actually I guess you could also say that men are attracted to women like their mothers? So WS attracted to SH as successful hotel CEO because she reminds him (misreading her completely) of ruthless cold no-nonsense mommy? 

In my opinion, JWS was attracted to her, as soon as he saw her picture hence his memory of their meeting at the restaurant is a good one. His attraction was reinforced, when he saw her for real. Back then, she was a well-mannered and obedient woman. Moreover, she asked him right away, what kind of woman he liked so that he would come to like her. He replied that he liked her style, CSH's style. Back then, he might have expressed, he wanted her to be herself. Nonetheless, In their meeting, CSH was determined to become the woman he wanted her to be. This created the first misunderstanding. However, we shouldn't forget that she never mentioned anything about herself, what she wanted from this marriage. She expressed no expectation, no emotion. She was just quiet and reserved. Since she didn't act like all the other women he had met... trying to impress him, he was indeed impressed.

 

Interesting is his first reply to her question. He had no particular taste, when it comes to women. This underlines one more time that JWS is someone who has no own opinion and no own taste: he has no personality in reality. He is just the mirror of his mother... that's why he never protected his wife from his mother. It is not that he was afraid of his mother, it is just that he had never learnt to distance himself from his mother. I guess, he never went through puberty. Yet, he witnessed how more and more CSH was struggling and he had no idea how to deal with her. In order to let her go, he faked the affair. His mother was misled... she thought, he was cheating because CSH was not loving back her son. What caught my attention is how his mother described her son concerning CSH:

  1. His love (for CSH) is pure 
  2. He is waiting for CSH
  3. Why would he loosen his grip on that thing (CSH)?

Since she only discovered much later that he had faked the affair (Soo Ah was paid), it really shows her distorted version of her son. His love for CSH was pure in her eyes because he was waiting for CSH to love him. For her, the affair was the result of CSH's behavior. She knew all along that her son loved CSH that's why she had a divorce contract so written that CSH was still connected to JWs's family. Moreover, she also observed that her son was keeping an eye on CSH all this time (third sentence above). So for the mother, it was clear that the divorce was temporary and at some point, CSH would come back. So more and more he is disobeying his mother, something he did not in the past. He was really immature.

 

Then I observed another interesting pattern: remember that CSH criticized him for bombarding her with gifts the next day after being punished by her mother in law. JWS hasn't changed at all this pattern: he still buys expensive things for her or invites her to exquisite restaurants in order to woo her. He has learnt nothing over the years. Once he realized that JH had become very close to CSH, he changed his strategy: he didn't wait any longer and tried to seduce the same way like in the past. Sure, he changed one thing... he attempted to write a good note but failed miserably to impress her. Like I mentioned it before many times, JWS has not really mature. He still considers himself as a good party and he is never questioning himself. When he said to his mother, they shouldn't have mistreated her in the past, the "we" should be understood this way: his mother was rude towards her, so was he because his mother represents him too. However, I don't think that he feels responsible for the failure of his marriage. For him, CSH wasn't ready (she had no heart and no emotion) and his mother mistreated her.

 

He didn't fall for CSH because she was a successful woman. No it all happened before. However, he has been protecting CSH because this way, he has a reason to be close to her and watch over her. Notice that he uses the success of the hotel to call her and compliment her. Taking the hotel from her would mean, JWS would loosen his grip over CSH. She would resent his mother and him even more. Therefore so far, he does anything so that she can keep the hotel. He is aware that once she loses the hotel, he has no longer ties with her and can no longer use the hotel in order to meet her and even visit her. 

 

Finally, JWS will keep pursuing CSH no matter what. He thinks after all these years where he waited for her, he deserves her. Moreover, he has all the qualities: handsome, rich and powerful. Since CSH has JH as boyfriend now, he tried to rush the things: proposal... but it didn't work. So he attempted to woo her with flowers. A failure again, moreover she starts disobeying to his orders (meet me at the sky lounge). So what will JWS do the next?

My assumption from last week was that he will go to Cuba in order to become her savior but he fails miserably... my predictions are still unchanged. At some point, he might use the hotel in order to force her to marry him again.

 

I am quite eager to know if my prediction is correct.  

 

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11 hours ago, bohmi said:

 

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cr. CJnDrama

 

 

cr. sasa_928Ying_BRJ

 

 

@rosiepeonie188 you're welcome :)

Encounter viewers are inspired that they are making poem, cartoons versions. This what happens when it connects and affect positively the viewers . Peace and Love everyone. 

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29 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

my predictions are still unchanged. At some point, he might use the hotel in order to force her to marry him again.

 

I am quite eager to know if my prediction is correct.  

 

I am quite eager to know if your prediction will come true or mine. 

I want to view the ending with a good light when it comes to WS. :lol:

 

@Glycie Manongsong, hello dear. Dont quote posts with pictures in it. Just remove the pictures when you quote the post . :kiss_wink:

 

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Just now, dukesa1122 said:

 

I am quite eager to know if your prediction will come true or mine. 

I want to view the ending with a good light when it comes WS. :lol:

 

@Glycie Manongsong, hello dear. Dont quote posts with pictures in it. Just remove the pictures when you quote the post . :kiss_wink:

 

Well, I just want him to grow up and keep his distance from his mother. He is not a bad person per se, just a flawed man. However, he needs to be confronted by reality... until now, he has been in denial. He can't imagine that KJH is a better person than him. I can't forget his reaction, when he saw JH driving CSH back to the hotel with the old truck. He was left speechless. A fly could have flown into his huge mouth. It was really funny.:D

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44 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

just a flawed man.

 

If there was a description for WS, it will be that. Flawed in every way possible. :wacko:

I agree. I cant forget his face either. He was dumbfounded when he saw CSH riding in a truck. 

 

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22 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

@xu_lyfe Thanks a lot for the compliment! cute-rabbit-emoticon-21.gif?1301940532cute-rabbit-emoticon-20.gif?1301940532Honestly, I had never thought that this drama would be so deep and well written. But the more I watch and analyse this work, the more I love this drama.  crazy monkey

 

Now, I would like to talk about the meeting between Grandfather Samuel and KJH in the first episode. Their conversation is really important because it explains why grandfather Samuel could remember KJH and deduce that KJH loved the CEO.

The first thing KJH says is that this garden is beautiful and he adds this: 


With these words, our hero shows that he is able to sense the love in that garden. Someone put a lot of work and love in it and he can still see the beauty and love in it. Nonetheless, grandfather denies this as he replies:

 As you can observe, grandfather is talking in the past. There is nothing beautiful here... everything is gone. Indirectly, he is saying that the love is dead too because his wife died. That's why the garden is no longer beautiful... he can no longer enjoy the garden. However, KJH sees it differently.  To him, time has changed nothing. The wife might be dead but he can still feel the love in this garden. The memory of her and her love didn't disappear with her death. Yet, grandfather is still pessimistic because he answers:

 You see, he is still talking in the past. Moreover, Samuel insists that the love ended with her death ("completed"). Because KJH appeared as someone sensitive who could even feel the love in this garden, he left a deep impression on Samuel. KJH kept telling him that the love as such didn't disappear because you can feel the memories in it.  

Let us not forget that KJH has kept the old camera from his father's friend. The camera represents a dear memory of that person that's why he is attached to it. Things might change but memories and love not... that's what KJH tried to tell Samuel. 

This is from the second episode. Here CSH justifies why she was able to get the contract. She also felt that love in that garden... she sensed that there are memories. She has the same point of view than KJH. Emotions and memories are important. This explains too why CSH and KJH are so similar.

 

So when JH met Samuel for the second time, he remembered him because KJH had told him that the love of his wife was still existent, although she had died. But when Samuel read the letter, he noticed that KJH mentioned that the playground represented memories with the woman he loved. Moreover, he knew that KJH was just a simple employee (reservation office desk) due to the magazine... he is not someone from the higher up. No normal worker would spend the night in a garden like that, even dare to trespass the property. Only someone in love would do that... and since the garden meant so much for the CEO, Samuel could imagine that KJH would do such a bold move only for her. 

 

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It was clearly stated during the VO of this scene that the memory of the woman he loves will disappear. Parallelism has been use here. Grandpa Samuel being in love also to his late wife read/feel the letter words beyond what it is saying. He has the wisdom after all. 

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I have a question, it may also be MAJOR POSSIBLE SPOILER, so please don’t read this if you hate spoilers.

 

Spoiler

 

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Is this legit? I saw it on r______achel620’s page. I don’t remember seeing that screen grab of PBG. Does anyone remember where it’s from?.

 

Does this mean they’re engaged in the next episode!?

 

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@ahdrianaa 

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That was from the NYE celebration of the crew, I believe. I hate spoilers but I couldn’t resist LOL

 

I never noticed the ring before. OMG shotgun wedding or yeah couple rings or purity rings :rolleyes:

 

But waiiiit. He’s wearing something similar to the bus station scene is Sokcho in episode 9

 

Hmmm

 

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Just now, stardustvoid said:

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That was from the NYE celebration of the crew. I hate spoilers but I couldn’t resist LOL

 

I never noticed the ring before. OMG shotgun wedding lol, or yeah couple rings

 

 

Spoiler

Ooooooh! I forgot about the NYE video, you’re so right.

 

I thought that it might be a commitment or promise ring but do guys wear them too? Come to think of it, guys don’t wear engagement bands. 

 

Did they get hitched in Cuba!? 

 

I am so sorry that I dragged you into this with me. 

 

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So.. If you put something in a spoiler, it's like saying not to eat that sweet, dripping chocolate ice cream :joy:

You can't resist it. You must open it.... and then trap!

 

 

Spoiler

I think it's a couple ring.

 

Who wants to place a bet? :P

 

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@ahdrianaa 

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It’s fine! I was scrolling ever so carefully when I opened your tag and recognized both pictures

 

Hmm it can also be purity rings LOL

 

I don’t know how to feel about them getting married so soon but promise rings are my best bet

 

Damn, he looked 100x sexier with that ring on his finger IDK why

 

@dukesa1122 I think couple/promise ring too. But what are the strict definition of those? 

 

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22 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

I realized something while watching the episode 6. The writer likes to use parallelisms.

 

I think you or somebody posted about this before. Thank you for posting these scenes however, these are one of the best scenes in this drama. Thinking about it just makes my heart flutter and I can feel butterflies in my tummy.  The holding hands scene, KJH's face while CSH was tying his neck tie (not to mention CSH was so beautiful in that scene). aaahhhhh! :heart:

 

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@dukesa1122 I think couple/promise ring too. But what are the strict definition of those? Hmm 

 

Dont know. Just a promise/couple ring. You know. 

So that everyone will know you're not available to anyone else anymore.

 

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26 minutes ago, ahdrianaa said:

I have a question, it may also be MAJOR POSSIBLE SPOILER, so please don’t read this if you hate spoilers.

 

I love spoilers.  :)  And I really like this one!  I hope that your guess is right.

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