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1 hour ago, stresseddesserts said:

@stardustvoid delurking from my silent mode to let you guys know that the ring is from Chaumet and it's the same style as the gold bracelet she's wearing at the end of the last episode.

 

 

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Oh, the material and price are interesting.

The bracelet has been worn in the kiss scene filmed in Cuba(September 2018) while the ring might be filmed in January 2019.

Production team has amazed audiences with detail story, script, and commercial CFs too.:star:

 

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53 minutes ago, dukesa1122 said:

Im confused about the balcony kiss. Why did they insert it when it was supposed to be the next day clothes they were wearing? Am I the only one thinking that PD-nim made a mistake of adding that in? I mean he couldnt have fooled us into believing that the kiss from after JH said I love you progressed to the balcony, right? What with all the magical powers we have at zooming in and making gifs of their kisses. Their clothes were different!

 

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KJH and CSH would have probably stayed in Cuba for several days, their clothes would change.

 

KJH might arrive Cuba on Friday morning and went to meet the coordinator to ask sending his letter to the garden owener but such coordinator denied because of garden owner's dissatisfaction. 

That's why KJH had to invade and sleep in the garden in order to attempt meeting the garden owner next day(Saturday).

 

From the scene Secretary Jang booked the flight, CSH might arrive Cuba in Saturday morn and even after the garden owner accepted apology, CSH might have to stay in Cuba for days till working day for the coordinator in Cuba to deal the contract with tons of clauses among three parties (DongHwa, Cuba Coordinator, and Garden Owner)

 

KJH has taken days leave so both of them could be in Cuba for several days till the contract with garden owner has completely done.:love:

 

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44 minutes ago, rosiepeonie188 said:

I've been re watching Encounter for God knows how many times. But after the hot-steamy-i love you confession-kisses, yeoksi.. Park Bo Gum-Ssi and Song Hye Kyo-Ssi, you two are skillful, gifted actors.

 

Using PBG hair as the hint, all the PBG long curly hair in korea scenes, must be one of the initial shots (PBG in library, doing part time jobs, hang out with Dae Chan and Hye In at moon snail cafe, having conversation with Hye In at the playground, and asking question about Cha Soo Hyun -the ice princess- while actually they haven't shot the Cuba Encounter scenes).

 

In episode 2, JH's hair is already short. When JH and SH eyes were met at the new empoyees meeting, JH looked awkward and shy, while SH stared at him in wonder.. I mean, THEY ALREADY SHOT THE LONG HOT STEAMY HUNGRY kissing scenes!

and they have to go back to the stage of 'having a crush'.. and as the story goes they started to develop deeper feeling, which means they express their feeling by gaze, stare, smile, all the facial expession and body language, while again, they already shot that hungry kissing scene in Cuba!

Unless PBG using hair extention in some scenes, for me they have nailed all the right emotion stages, even with those leap of scenes.

 

Oh Wednesday, please come faster.. can't wait to see JinSoo going around Cuba, as their relationship sealed with a kiss! I mean kisses.. steamy kisses:wub:

 

@rosiepeonie188 Your observation is interesting, plan on filming and editing is thorough.

Park Bo Gum's and Song Hye Kyo's acting with switched time in Encounter and real time in filming are challenging indeed but both of them can nail the roles.

 

Let rerun and think about the filming has not been sequentially done but skipping here and there between 2 strangers and 2 lovers, Thump up PBG&SHK indeed. :thumbsup:

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4 minutes ago, jl08 said:

 

The PD didn't make a mistake, chingu.

I discover we're like Pavlov's dogs...they give us a conditioned stimulus with images of the passionate kissing scene that's coming up and extracted a conditioned response from us - SALIVATING.     

So in summary:

When a bell is rung (throwing out sweet images) = we expect food (kisses & hugs) so we'll tune in definitely to savour the 'gastronomical' delights of KJH and CSH, while they, in turn, devour each other!  :D

 

 

 

Now that makes sense! :sweat_smile: I havent heard of Ivan Pavlov’s theory for like a decade now. Thank you for perfectly explaining why they inserted the preview before the preview of episode 11. Haha

 

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There were efforts from certain journalists to say something negative about Encounter. Previously I saw an article comparing PBG to another actor. Tbh I don't know what their purpose was but when a drama and its actors have managed to create a huge buzz..there'll always be someone who tries to bring them down. Criticism is fine, as long as it's constructive but the way I see it..the article seems to be filled with the writer's personal thoughts and feelings instead of an objective opinion. Smh

 

My obsession with side profiles is starting to worry me. :sweat_smile:

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Where can I find another Kim Jin Hyuk? :D

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1 hour ago, gumtaek said:

Korean fans of the drama were up in arms defending it. If we know Korean or if we have a Naver account, we can comment.

 

Good to know that some K fans are defending the article. Thanks for all the good suggestions! :)

I feel for SHK and PBG. Like all humans, I'm pretty sure they would be happy with all the encouragement that viewers can give, to them. It's also an affirmation of their acting prowess and everyone needs affirmation in life, no matter how good one is.

Let's do what we can.

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Oh my....the non-verbal language between PBG and SHK is so good, seriously. I've mentioned that they have parallel responses like one blinking the eyes and the other blinked in response right?

Well, now in ep 10 at 1:03:21, I see PBG raising his eyebrows first before SHK responded with raising hers too...lol.

I had thought that it was SHK who raised her eyebrows and was wondering why she did it.....haha...

These two lovebirds are really something... I meant KJH and CSH.

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Anyone wonders why there are so few BTS for for this drama? I want to see more!

 

Now that I've rewatched the recent episodes a few times....my take as to why KJH did not admit that he loves CSH to the Garden Owner when he was asked, it's likely because KJH did not want to use that to win him over as it may come across as insincere, like he's saying he loves her just to get the land for the hotel. His sincerity lies in saying he miss her. Plus the fact that KJH, after achieving his right to protect CSH by winning over the guy at the end, it gives him the well-earned momentum to walk up to her and tell her he loves her. To me, it's important to him that she is the first to know that he loves her. 

 

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It will be feast for us if Tvn give us BTS of kissing scene in Cuba..I wonder if there were any NG for that kissing scene especially balcony kiss..wanna see them swing over here n there, bending over..hahaha my mind..:phew: I can't believe myself I'm still awed with that kiss scene..it's been long I'm not feel like this..

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Thank you for that very detailed response @bebebisous33. I read your past posts about WS.

 

Still, the lack of “negative” response from WS makes me cling to the possibility that he will turn over to the light. He is used to doing something in the background so he could have done something bad to JH like manipulated or paid people to have him away from CSH but he didnt. He didn’t damage KJH or anything about him to the then budding relationship, after all he witnessed how it developed from the start. Sure, he’s not stopping at pursuing CSH but it’s just that and it’s foolishness in his part.

 

And something in the episode 11 preview is nagging me. Someone sent a photo to JH about the minions having a meeting. We all know who paid for that photo to be taken. 

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59 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

In one of my earlier posts, I had even wished that JH would become JWS's friend as he has no one. For JWS, we actually have two possibilities.

Either he keeps pursuing her to the point that at the end, he even tries to force CSH to marry him by using the hotel as tool or he finally gives up on CSH, as he sees her happy.

 

However, after giving some thought, I am even doubting that JWS will start working at the hotel in order to support CSH. Why? I realized something important. JWS is actually the only one who witnesses the evolution of CSH-JH's relationship. First, at the bar, he asks her if JH has nothing to do with her but she doesn't deny it. So he knows now, there is something. Then in the episode 4, he sees how CSH accepts JH's gift.

 He saw that JH used an old truck and CSH had no problem to sit in his car. Nonetheless he calls CSH "Daepeonim" which shows that they are still formal towards each other. So this scene which JWS sees makes him realize that CSH feels comfortable around this young man despite his poorer social background: no luxurious car, no expensive gift... Then later when he meets JMJ, he has to endure this terrible humiliation. His expensive gift was refused and rejected. In that conversation, he indirectly warns CSH through JMJ that CSH needs to be careful. He even lets JMJ know that CSH met JH without her. So he is definitely using JMJ to control CSH. But this is not enough.

In the episode 5, he has to hear that JH protected CSH by giving up his anonymity and showing that he was close to CSH. First, he doesn't do anything against CSH or JH because he knows that JH will suffer from his action. Moreover, he had just seen that they were just friendly. He still doesn't view JH as a possible thread. He just protects CSH from his mother... in his mind, this is the least he can do, since in the past he did nothing. However, in the episode 6 he observes two important events... and he is the only one to know:

  He suspects that she might have bought the necktie for JH but he is not sure. So when he visits the office of PR team, he looks at JH's necktie. First, he is relieved but then a few days later, he witnessed this very intimate scene.

Don't laugh but a necktie could be seen as a symbol for phallus due to the same form. In Germany during the carnaval in Cologne, on a certain day, women can cut neckties which means that they are interested in the man wearing the necktie (sex). While JWS sees this scene, he gets aware that they are no longer friends and acquaintance, but they have moved to the next level. However, he doesn't know how far. So when CSH announces that they are in a some-relationship. He hesitates... did she do that in order to protect JH or not? That's why he goes to JH and asked him directly. JH confirms the official announcement. 

When he hears that JH has been demoted to Sokcho and CSH didn't stop the transfer, he has the impression that the some-relationship has not moved on therefore he considers that this is the right time to confess. But CSH ignores his confession, even rejects the thought that he might really love her. Yet, in the episode 9, he is the only one who sees JH kissing CSH.

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 Look at his reaction: he is hurt and disappointed therefore he leaves the ball. The media only mentioned CSH had a date and went to the theater but JWS knows that they kissed and that she spent her entire night with him outside. He waited for CSH in front of her home. It was around 5.00 am, when she came home. Yet this doesn't stop him from proposing to his ex-wife a few days later. He knows that JH is her boyfriend but he asks as if JH didn't exist or mean anything. When CSH declares that JH is a special person to her, he is meaningful to her... he tries to diminish JH's worth and value. 

 

 With these words, JWS implies that JH can not offer protection and can not feed her... Only with him, she can live a life in luxury and do what she likes: running the hotel aso. Furthermore, in French, there is this expression: promesse en l'air which means empty/hollow promise. If you translate this expression word for word, it is "promise in the air". As you can see, the air and the wind are associated to empty and no guarantee. With JH, CSH will get nothing in JWS's opinion... she might even lose everything. JWS still believes that his status and wealth can be a reason why CSH should marry him. So he is not even trying to get her love. Nonetheless, CSH is not swayed by JWS's proposal and thoughts. She rejects him once more time.

 

Then the incident with the hotel in Cuba happens. JH flies to Cuba in order to persuade grandfather Samuel that there has been a misunderstanding. CSH also flies to Cuba in order to meet the owner. So far, JWS knows that director Choi is behind the incident. So my speculation is that JWS will also fly to Cuba believing that with his status and reputation he can become CSH's savior. However, I suspect that JWS will witness how JH and CSH spend the night together at the hotel. With this, he knows that they are intimate. This could explain why JWS decides to join the hotel in order to impress his ex-wife. If JH could move her heart with his hard work, maybe he should do the same.

To summarize, I am convinced that JWS will keep pursuing CSH, although he is always the witness of the change in their relationship. He doesn't want to accept the obvious truth. Moreover, we shouldn't forget that he even declared that he would continue, even if he is rejected 100 times. This is definitely stubbornness.  

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@bebebisous33 lovely analysis.. i look forward to ur analysis ..pl include me in your list as well..

 

Like you said, there is a high possibility of WS going to Cuba n witnessing JH n CSH.. he did talk to the painter in the earlier episode.. he might hope to do the same... however i feel he won't do anything negative for them n i think he will join the PR team to find out more about JH.. n become better acquaintances if not friend

 

And I feel WS should learn about letting go from HI.. highly far fetched but I would want WS to learn about giving up on CSH..i think he will help JH n CSH eventually n slowly learn to develop a spine against his mother.. helping them find pbly be his first strong real direct action against his mother

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2 hours ago, dukesa1122 said:

Thank you for that very detailed response @bebebisous33. I read your past posts about WS.

 

Still, the lack of “negative” response from WS makes me cling to the possibility that he will turn over to the light. He is used to doing something in the background so he could have done something bad to JH like manipulated or paid people to have him away from CSH but he didnt. He didn’t damage KJH or anything about him to the then budding relationship, after all he witnessed how it developed from the start. Sure, he’s not stopping at pursuing CSH but it’s just that and it’s foolishness in his part.

 

And something in the episode 11 preview is nagging me. Someone sent a photo to JH about the minions having a meeting. We all know who paid for that photo to be taken. 

The preview can be misleading... hence I am not sure if what JH saw on his cellphone is the recorded conversation by JWS's minion.

 

But thanks for underlining again that JWS hasn't hurt JH directly, he is definitely different from his mother who is a bully. But denying the existence of JH as boyfriend can not be considered as a nice gesture too.

 

To me, JWS needs to grow up and leave his ivory tower. He needs to realize that wealth and status don't define a person... like the higher the person is, the better he is. In my opinion, JWS is not a rich and powerful man. He is the exact opposite: poor and weak. His expression skills are terrible, he never uses the right words. He is not interested in art either. He has no real experience in the end. Labour and effort forge the character and JWS always used his money hence he never put any effort and he never worked physically like JH.

 

@nikir Thanks for the compliment! And I won't forget you next time to tag you. 

I have already found the next topic for my next post... it will be about the drawing of the episode 10! But this is for tomorrow!:) 

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Guys, what do you think of that ring? Is it a promise ring? I dont think they will marry sometime soon so i dont think it’s a wedding ring. And before a wedding ring, there must be an engagement ring? Oh well, if he knocks her off in Cuba i suppose it can lead to an early wedding lol! Just my imagination

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About WS: One minute of screen time for the ex-hubby is a minute I'd rather see spent on characters I love such as hunky teddy bear Manager Nam and PR Director Nim.  And the thought of JH befriending WS gives me the creeps, seriously. Can't WS find some other helpful pal to help him grow up? In my own life, I cannot imagine being best buddies with my spouse's ex-girlfriends, never mind an ex-wife!  :crazy: I'm not that enlightened. :angry:

 

Starting to worry, too, a bit about SH always being so tired. The way, for example, JH calls Manager Nam to pick her up because she'll be too tired for the drive back from Sokcho. It made for a fun "sad story" convo between SH and Nam, but she's a young woman. Why so easily tired? Her driving skills seemed fine. Unlike other kdrama drivers, she actually used her turn signal before doing a U-turn in traffic at speed.  Anyway, I am nervous now when our lovers are so happy that her tiredness will suddenly become some horrible kdrama disease. Please happiness and health for our lovers! Perhaps SH needs to eat more iron-rich foods. Take care of yourself, woman! 

 

Re: @larrysouth's concern about the danger of JH and SH falling over the balcony while passionately making out.  That worry never occurred to me! But thinking about it, a bed would be a better location absolutely.  It's a safety thing. 

 

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27 minutes ago, ihyw said:

About WS: One minute of screen time for the ex-hubby is a minute I'd rather see spent on characters I love such as hunky teddy bear Manager Nam and PR Director Nim.  And the thought of JH befriending WS gives me the creeps, seriously. Can't WS find some other helpful pal to help him grow up? In my own life, I cannot imagine being best buddies with my spouse's ex-girlfriends, never mind an ex-wife!  :crazy: I'm not that enlightened. :angry:

 

Starting to worry, too, a bit about SH always being so tired. The way, for example, JH calls Manager Nam to pick her up because she'll be too tired for the drive back from Sokcho. It made for a fun "sad story" convo between SH and Nam, but she's a young woman. Why so easily tired? Her driving skills seemed fine. Unlike other kdrama drivers, she actually used her turn signal before doing a U-turn in traffic at speed.  Anyway, I am nervous now when our lovers are so happy that her tiredness will suddenly become some horrible kdrama disease. Please happiness and health for our lovers! Perhaps SH needs to eat more iron-rich foods. Take care of yourself, woman! 

 

Re: @larrysouth's concern about the danger of JH and SH falling over the balcony while passionately making out.  That worry never occurred to me! But thinking about it, a bed would be a better location absolutely.  It's a safety thing. 

 

Actually, the story with JWS could be perceived as a destruction of the prince charming myth. Let us not forget that the writer has used a lot of references from fairy tales:

- the sleeping beauty: CSH described herself as such in her marriage. She was like in a coma, even the drawing in the beginning reminds us of the forest created after the curse in order to protect the sleeping beautyEncounter 1 sleeping beauty.png

- Cinderella (the shoes, the ball, even CSH mentions it, JH knew nothing about her identity)

In these fairy tales, the hero is prince charming: he is rich and powerful therefore with his position, he can give the heroine an happily ever after ending. Furthermore the prince has no friend in these stories like JWS. The bride and princess has no worries about money and is protected and respected by her husband.

 

In this story, JWS embodies the archetype of prince  charming but his attributes have now a negative connotation:

  • his power and money turned her life into a real nightmare,
  • he didn't protect and respect her at all,
  • she was unhappy and the marriage was short-lived (no happily ever after ending).
  • Actually, the ending was the opposite: a continuation of hell, even if CSH felt happy for a short time. She could finally breathe a little.

 

And let me add something about HI: so far, JH still considers her as a good friend BUT he is still unaware of her conversation with CSH. Moreover, there is a huge difference between HI and JWS. Like I had mentioned before, JWS witnessed important events in JH-CSH's relationship and realized the evolution of their relationship, unlike HI.

HI only knows that CSH admitted that JH and CSH had a some-relationship. When the article about the date appeared, she didn't see the kiss hence for her, JH and CSH were still in a some-relationship. Don't forget that even KJM could deceive his parents by saying that he had met CSH in Cuba and they were just close. By asking her to stay away from JH because the latter will suffer, HI thought that this relationship could be stopped before it becomes too serious. HI knows that the media can manipulate... it had already happened in the past with the ramen date. Then since nothing had happened for one month as CSH kept her distance from JH, I am convinced that HI is still believing that they didn't go any further than some-relationship. 

  

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2 hours ago, shyguitar said:

Guys, what do you think of that ring? Is it a promise ring? I dont think they will marry sometime soon so i dont think it’s a wedding ring. And before a wedding ring, there must be an engagement ring? Oh well, if he knocks her off in Cuba i suppose it can lead to an early wedding lol! Just my imagination

I think that one steamy kiss in the balcony will be in episode 16 after their wedding. It is a honeymoon scene that is why it is so intense. Well not bad if a wedding and honeymoon will take place. Ahhh,  I am so excited. Be still my heart. 

 

@shyguitar I think we are in the same page. Our wild imagination is the same. The reason for this intense kiss is it is their Honeymoon. Well,  I love to see it in the ending. Wedding and Honeymoon. Somebody said in the twitter, she is not ready yet to end this drama. Lol. I am not ready yet. 

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