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[Drama 2018-2019] Encounter / Boyfriend, 남자친구

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5 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

Actually, CSH's mother doesn't believe in her husband's abilities at all. She thinks, he needs the help of Taekyeong group in order to win an election. However, we heard that

- he went on hunger strike after his friend's death in order to put pressure on the authorities and he was successful

- he obtained the attention of politicians who asked him to become one

- he became the mayor of Seoul on his own merit because CSH married JWS after this election.

Chairman Kim is delusional and arrogant, she thinks that without her money CJH would have never won the election as assemblyman... yet he was able to get elected before she entered his life.

It would be interesting if CJH's popularity increased because his daughter is dating a commoner. 

 

MiOk (SooHyun's mother) is like a walking, talking realization of "your eyes are bigger than your stomach".  She let her greed, rather than her common sense, lead her to making a deal that may end up ruining her husband's chances of actually being elected President.  Even at this late date, that money she took could be misconstrued as a bribe and could cast a shadow over all her husband's accomplishments since he started working in the government. 

 

What makes my blood boil is that MiOk is so stubborn!  If something's not working, why keep banging your head against it?  Make new alliances woman! :angry:  the fact that she refuses to stop trying to partner up with TaeKyung group makes me worry that the Chairwoman doesn't have dirt on SooHyun's dad, but instead has dirt on SooHyun's mom.

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6 minutes ago, yonaomi123 said:

 

MiOk (SooHyun's mother) is like a walking, talking realization of "your eyes are bigger than your stomach".  She let her greed, rather than her common sense, lead her to making a deal that may end up ruining her husband's chances of actually being elected President.  Even at this late date, that money she took could be misconstrued as a bribe and could cast a shadow over all her husband's accomplishments since he started working in the government. 

 

What makes my blood boil is that MiOk is so stubborn!  If something's not working, why keep banging your head against it?  Make new alliances woman! :angry:  the fact that she refuses to stop trying to partner up with TaeKyung group makes me worry that the Chairwoman doesn't have dirt on SooHyun's dad, but instead has dirt on SooHyun's mom.

But if she is the one who ruins her husband's career, then it serves her right. She can not blame anyone else: she became useless for her husband. Imagine, her own dream gets shattered due to her own idiocy. Taking the money without thinking about the consequences is a no no. The other possibility is that he decides to divorce her. We already had two divorces, why not three?

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@bebebisous33 Oh my... I'm always so amazed by your analysis and writing! Thank you so much!

I have a question. Are you SHKs or PBGs fan or do you just like Kdramas and you're good at observing and analysing? I'm really amazed!

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7 hours ago, dukesa1122 said:

3) When CSH was on her way back to Seoul and she started worrying again but Mr. Nam caught that look in her face and her realize that everyone has their own choices and just to think about ones self. I especially love the part when CSH said she wont tell Ms. kim about what he said. Mr. Nam’s face is hilarious! 

Fairy Godfather Nam is such a good guy!  He'd make a great stepdad to SunJoo's daughter.  I just hope that the past history of SunJoo's oppa doesn't come between them and their almost romance.  This drama keeps turning all my expectations upside down, so I don't feel comfortable trusting that we'll see a happy ending for them, even as I'm rooting for them even more than I'm rooting for MiJin and DaeChan. 

 

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18 hours ago, africandramalover said:

Someone mentioned earlier today, around 20 pages ago, that KJH needs to step up and be the one to protect CSH otherwise he risks being seen as dependent on CSH. His going to Cuba and convincing the owner is his way of stepping up. It's very much in line with his character to take a long trip to see the important person, use words and letters as his tools to convince the hotel owner, just like JWS would use his power and machinations to solve CSH's problems from the shadows.

4 hours ago, lclarakl said:

Only in a K-drama could JH go to Cuba to discuss a deal that in reality he would have no insight into.....that's the magic of Kdramas.

LOL.  I actually really didn't expect the drama to take that route of having JinHyuk save the day, but it was just so neatly done that I couldn't blame them.  I did (and still do) hope that he's the one who walks away from Donghwa entirely and makes a life more suited to his personality.  He's too big and bright for an office imo.  And he shouldn't have to face the  daily bombardment of commentary from coworkers, whether they're jealous or supportive. 

 

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3 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

I would like to add what JWS needs right now is a friend as he has no one by his side. It would be interesting if by working for the hotel, he becomes close to JH so that the latter can give him good advises and help him to mature. JWS is still acting like a spoiled child. 

I have had this sort of thought percolating in my mind recently.  I was envisioning JinHyuk and WooSeok becoming partners of a sort, both doing their best to protect SooHyun (with her full knowledge and consent because that's how JinHyuk rolls).  But having WooSeok mature by learning from JinHyuk would be infinitely better.  As he's written, JinHyuk does seem kind-hearted enough to befriend anyone, but I wonder if WooSeok would be wise enough to recognize that he needs a friend.

 

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29 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

But if she is the one who ruins her husband's career, then it serves her right. She can not blame anyone else: she became useless for her husband. Imagine, her own dream gets shattered due to her own idiocy. Taking the money without thinking about the consequences is a no no. The other possibility is that he decides to divorce her. We already had two divorces, why not three?

Oh definitely.  If he was going to divorce, he would have already though, is my thought.  I think SooHyun's dad is wary of the possibility of losing votes if he divorces his wife.  And who's to say MiOk would consent to the divorce.  She'd probably fight, tooth and nail, to keep him.  Without him, her dreams are dust. 

 

I do wish that he would bring her divorce papers though.  And then, if somehow he managed to get the separation finalized, I'd like to see him win election without her.  If that's not punishment, I don't know what is.  

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22 hours ago, dianss23 said:

@leedonghaek omg that gif you just posted, JH is eating her, hungry JH lol, the sounds of their kiss is so hot, ahh I’m going crazy too... another long week to wait

Yes,  it is. Another long week of waiting. I'll just watch this over and over again from Ep 1 to Ep 10 to not feel the boringness... Getting sad because it is only 6 episodes left. Another drama that I won't forget in my life. 

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2 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

And now this caught my attention again 

As you can observe, this little scene justifies why CSH is totally different from JWS.

 

I seem to not have any recollection about this scene. At which part is this and which episode? 

Thank you for all the insight, btw bebebisous. This thread is so lucky because we have historians and artists. :wub:

 

 

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8 hours ago, lclarakl said:

Only in a K-drama could JH go to Cuba to discuss a deal that in reality he would have no insight into.....that's the magic of Kdramas. I have to say that i loved the last 2 episodes. I'm glad that they are letting others see JH's "worth"/value; that he's an asset to her in this business.

 

@lclarakl 

Could I add some opinion about Garden Owner in Cuba?  Kim Jin Hyuk's success factors are

1. opportunity to explain by himself with privilege from praising this garden in ep.1; 

2. similar experience to have memory in a place with his beloved ones;

3. clearly explain that the garden owner is dealing with Donghwa and CEO who will protect this garden; and 

4. familiar magazine might make garden owner feel Kim Jin Hyuk's positive side 

 

Kim Jin Hyuk has not written about business insight at all because the Garden Owner's problem is not business or money but uncertain result of the selling garden.

Donghwa's strategy team tried to persue this negotiation by sending email to the coordinator in Cuba as business-like.

 

From Encounter ep.1: This garden owner discussed with Kim Jin Hyuk that this garden is his wife's and it is quite hard to preserve as it is. It probably required a lot of money and continous maintainence when he is alive and he might wanna keep this garden like this after he's gone.

 

From Encounter ep.10: Kim Jin Hyuk simply invaded to the garden as he used to and find opportunity to send his letter to explain what happened.

 

Kim Jin Hyuk wrote the letter from google translate is about his precious playground which is full of memories about his family, his friend, and his belove woman, this playground will be destroyed soon, that's why Kim Jin Hyuk understand this garden owner's feeling to memory of his wife. 

 

Kim Jin Hyuk, who has similar feeling to the previous memory with a place in life, came to apologize for the misunderstanding, Donghwa and CEO really want to preserve this garden as it is, which is the exact memory protection that the garden owner wishes.

 

This case is realistic because in real life, many properties and valuable items have been successfully transferred from non-business discussion to meet qualitative preference, not solely by business talk or price factor.

 

Ep.1

PBG-Garden-Owner-FINAL.jpg

 

Ep.10

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PBG-garden-owner-FINAL2.jpg

 

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Don’t forget to show your love and support for Saltnpaper.

 

The singer was really touched at how fast his song climbed up the charts. Rank wise, was this the best performing OST?

 

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1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

First, thanks a lot for the compliment. crazy monkeycute-rabbit-emoticon-21.gif?1301940532 It gives me great pleasure to read that my posts and analysis are appreciated. However back to your questions: I like Kdramas and since I am a teacher in literature/history (look at my nickname), analyzing is one of my hobbies.

 

But back to Encounter: what I love about this drama is the connection between poetry, literature and paintings. The dialogues look rather simple but they are far from being superficial. I am really impressed by the writer and the director. 

@bebebisous33 it is the same reason I like/love this drama and become a fan of this. Aside from being an avid fan of PBG and SHK,  the poetry and paintings give more color and classy touch. The dialogues are simple but it is wrapped with life lessons. I really like drama even books that can touch the audience hearts. 

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55 minutes ago, dukesa1122 said:

 

I seem to not have any recollection about this scene. At which part is this and which episode? 

Thank you for all the insight, btw bebebisous. This thread is so lucky because we have historians and artists. :wub:

 

 

raccoonThanks a lot for the compliment. cute rabbitAbout your question: That's when they are at the theater watching the movie about Vincent van Gogh: episode 9.

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Chingus,  Let us not forget the background music "Omara song" which made the ambiance more heart fluttering when they were doing the sweetest kissing scene in the fort, and also the instrumental of the song which put background to the balcony steamy kissing scene which made it more intense. Everything is just so perfect. :wub::wub::wub:

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@bebebisous33 thank you! No wonder. That has only been shown for a split second i think. Correct me if im wrong.

 

@stroppyse

No SHK doesn’t have any siblings. Looks like the cast and crew are well fed. Food trucks are aplenty from the fans or friends of the casts :wub:

 

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@xu_lyfe smileysThanks a lot for the compliment. raccoon

 

By the way, if anyone is interested in my next long analysis, I can tag him/her. Just let me know.

 

@africandramalover I would like to add something about your observation with the frames in the episode 9. I had already interpreted that the frame in form of rectangles represents JWS's world, the chaebol world. And in the episode 10, the director keeps using this kind of shot. This is really visible in the scene where Chairman Kim meets CSH's mother. Encounter episode 10 chairman Kim.pngI counted all the different oblongs in the same shot, like for example  number 11: the vases; 4 the table, even the lights (10) have an oblong in them, 9 the window aso... even the way in which the couch and the armchairs are placed remind us of a rectangle. But the most obvious is the number 3, the frame of the door, as it is the biggest. To me it looks like this frame symbolizes her "kingdom", she as queen sits on the throne and her subject has to kneel in front of her.  She is even in the center of the frame and shooting which underlines her power and central position. 

@twtwb @dukesa1122(yes, the picture from the scene at the theater lasted two seconds) @thistle @stroppyse 

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32 minutes ago, stroppyse said:

So, the food truck was sent by people who are very close to her, not sure if she actually has siblings, but people who seem to have known her since her childhood.

 

She is an only child, her mom had SHK when she was a teenager and her parents got a divorce. SHK says in her interviews that her mother didn’t ever make her feel lonely while growing up despite it being only the two of them. :)

 

I could be wrong but I think these might be her really old fans, right from the beginning of her career. So their tone sounds familiar because they actually do keep in touch with her. There was some TV show where Hong Seok Cheon mentions how she and some of her fans ( I think including some of her very old and loyal Chinese fans) had a meal at one of his restaurants for her birthday. 

 

I was clarifying the bit about the brother in law because fans might have thought it was sent by SJK’s older brother.

 

Thank you for all your detailed translations, much appreciated :wub:

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