bebebisous33 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I would like to add what JWS needs right now is a friend as he has no one by his side. It would be interesting if by working for the hotel, he becomes close to JH so that the latter can give him good advises and help him to mature. JWS is still acting like a spoiled child. 16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
httpgttk Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Regarding WS, I don't hate him at all but I don't really have that much sympathy for him. Sure, he's pitiful, but he honestly brought most of his pain on to himself. He's a privileged man who has the capacity to face his own mother and he could have done so much for SH while they were married but he chose to just sit by and watch her suffer. Then he deliberately deceived SH to "set her free" without even asking for her consent, then expects her to come back to him just because he's regretting his decision . He's also always making decisions without SH's consent even after their marriage and even after her repeated rejection of him. He doesn't respect her feelings at all and even belittled what she felt for JH. He keeps trying to woo SH by giving her material things when he should have known by now if he took the time to really get to know SH that she isn't really moved by those gestures. 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlireal Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 @ahdrianaa oh, thank you. What a pity. It would be so meaningful and special, if it were from her brother-in-law. Especially after yesterday episode. But we all know, his family is supporting her. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukesa1122 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Thank you for the translation @ahdrianaa. I thought there was something wrong with ig’s translation. It said that SHK’s brother-in-law has been in contact About WS and HI. I decided that I dont think of them as villains. The only villains I acknowledge here are the ex MIL and her minions and CSH’s mom. Correct me if I’m wrong but in the ep 11 preview JH was sent a picture of the minions having a meeting and we all know who paid for that picture to be taken. I think WS will come to his senses and realize his mistakes and accept that CSH will never be his again. HI, i dont see her as someone who can JH. She just loves him like that. Their friendship is after all very valuable to her. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlireal Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 About JWS. Sure I feel sorry for him, too. He is the victim of his mother and her education. I can unterstand how he became who he is now. But come on, he is now an adult. We can always work on us, try to develope, heal the wounds of childhood. But he doesn't have the desire to grow up, to get more out of him, to be free and happy. He can do it in so many ways. He can read, he can go to a psychotherapist, he can find things, which are meaningful to him... But he hasn't done any of them. So I think, I feel pity for him but just a little. You must love/treasure and help yourself before you want to love and help someone else. It's my opinion. Sorry for my poor english.. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post noonainwaiting Posted January 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2019 Hello chingus! I was held hostage by real life for a long time but today I decided enough was enough and I marathoned eps 9 and 10. My combined thoughts- "The world is not as romantic as u think it is" Vs"Love is like sneezing-u can't stop it! "I am glad that both these perspectives exist within this drama universe. Balance the heavy with the light. "Having that normality shattered. You know it better than anyone."I think this was the line that made SH actually cave into the pressure later, as it came from someone she treasures. That misguided attempt from HI and the news articles just compounded it. "Why now? What I can't forget is how weak you looked when you stood and watched from afar.The person I'm seeing right now means a lot to me. He's someone special."I think this was one of the most frustrating parts of the episode for me. How suffocating it must've been for SH - the one time in her life when she is finally experiencing real love and affection and her ex comes in expecting she'll hop right off with him. The delusional way he just kept avoiding the obvious - please woo seek, let her live her life. And these also pointed out exactly why she likes JH- he has always stood up for her and maintained her dignity. "Some people are destined to do what's asked of them."I hope you meet your comeuppance lady. Your husband and daughter should teach you just that. It's made me feel doubly sad for SH for how she has had such a poor excuse for a mother. And proud of JH to actually answer her calmly- I would've Kimchi slapped her and gone to jail. "I'm uneasy. I'm afraid you'll get hurt. I'm afraid. Don't be afraid. "It was really sad to see JH still keep strong in the after effects, but then he only had to face SH's mom, while SH was getting attacked from all sides. Her crying broke me more than JH, surprisingly. She cherishes him so much. -Jinhuk tracing her handwriting, and finally wearing her tie! He was obviously missing his family after seeing the fruit shop in Sokcho - I wonder why he didn't go to Seoul, he would lose their bet? -That scene when SH is developing the photo in the dark room and JH 's face slowly forms - her longing crept up and filled the room, the silence just amplified it. I loved this scene. "If the sea job is to make waves, mine is to think of you. Me and the mother in this book are both the same. After all, we are both thinking of somebody."JH's love is so earnest, so sincere. I lost it within the first five mins of this ep itself lol. And I knew SH has laser vision/intuition - she glanced someone reading by the lighthouse and was like yup-that's my man. As lovely as that line was I have the feeling it was kind of bittersweet to SH? She has obviously never experienced maternal love and affection. I feel that the actual line being from a parent's heart made it much more poignant. And I really hope JH's family gives her the love she deserves. "I don't have a solution, but I'm determined to solve it." I find myself mesmerised by SHK's expressions in some of the scenes and this was one of them. Just look at her observing his face and taking in his sincerity. She was hanging onto every word. I love them both so much. "I'm the best driver in the world."I can't quote his convo with Soo hyun because nearly everything he said was gold. Driver Nam, you are the best confidant, advisor, caregiver, teddy bear, and overall best human anyone could ask for. "You shouldn't just keep things inside. You should express it."This video call!! Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Honestly this show has given me so many adorable moments I didnt think I could smile any more but this section had me locked in a maniacal grin the whole time. I could so relate to her awkwardness with video calls, SHK was super duper adorable in this scene. "What can I do to win Soo hyun over."Bro. Its time to stop. He can honestly start dating his handsome secretary if he really wants to shake up his life. Nearly everything he does to woo her is an imitation of other peoples feelings and talent. He can't hold a candle to JH. And he's doing peak second lead behavior right now so I can't even feel bad for him. "Do you have some money?"The whole Cuba sequence - what an absolutely wonderful callback to their initial encounter in Cuba. It was an entirely magical and ethereal feeling--no wonder Soo Hyun glanced at the clock showing Havana time while writing her new years wishes. And honestly, I cannot thank the entire production and especially our lead actors for portraying that culmination of passion so authentically that early on during filming. It made me eat my own subliminal feelings that this romance was just lacking a little spice. Turns out I should have kept my patience - this is such a well tempered romance, everything just fell into place organically. If I was squeeing the whole episode, towards the end I became weirdly silent- I just felt their whole journey till now and how beautifully it has been portrayed and I don't know if I will come across such a gem of a romance again. And if there was any doubt regarding what happened--just look at their eyes. And the ending animation showed them both horizontally soooo ok ill stop now. Why am I single again. Where is my JH?! So glad to have encounter back again, and I have more than 50 pages to backread! Love your discussions guys. 25 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebebisous33 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, tlireal said: About JWS. Sure I feel sorry for him, too. He is the victim of his mother and her education. I can unterstand how he became who he is now. But come on, he is now an adult. We can always work on us, try to develope, heal the wounds of childhood. But he doesn't have the desire to grow up, to get more out of him, to be free and happy. He can do it in so many ways. He can read, he can go to a psychotherapist, he can find things, which are meaningful to him... But he hasn't done any of them. So I think, I feel pity for him but just a little. You must love/treasure and help yourself before you want to love and help someone else. It's my opinion. Sorry for my poor english.. That's the reason why I can not feel sorry for him. He is old enough now. The marriage and divorce should have been a wake up call for him but he didn't change at all. He remained at home and still let his mother decide for him. Actually, he could stop his mother with the divorce law suit by writing a new divorce contract because he is actually CSH's ex-husband and not his mother. He allowed her to write such a terrible contract. 15 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukesa1122 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, tlireal said: Can someone please explain the scene, how JH looked at SH to slend through the gap of the gate in Eps. 10? His stare was amused, surprised oder smt like that? I don't really get it and why did he look at her that way? It is a “why didnt i thought of that?” face. 4 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigivillaceran Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Boyfriend' Park Sook-gum, National Census Earns 'National Boyfriend....Article Entered 2019.01.04 at 10:04 am Good Good Hope to translateChanging the font siz Share SNView original The actor Park Bo-gum, who has been called the national taxpayer since the drama 'Gurmigreen Moonlight', has been called the 'national boyfriend' through the drama 'Boyfriend' and continues the national syndrome. He has been acclaimed for completing Kim Jin-hyeok with complete character analysis and solid performance. In the play, Kim Jin-hyuk is a 20-year-old young man who is well-mannered and straight-forwarded in a normal environment. It's not a heavy set-up or a strong character, but rather a normal twenties. However, Park is clearly portraying the intrinsic colors possessed by these ordinary characters with solid performance. It is filling the character 's breath with filling the analog sensibility and the various charms of the character tightly. View original View origHe brought a free and pure young man from Cuba with a smile and a smile on his face. Then he met with Song Hye-kyo (Cha Seo Hyun) Not only is it soft and decisive, but it also delivers complicated emotions inside, with detailed expressions and eyes. Here, as the time passes, the love that becomes more solid is filled with eyes and facial expressions. In this way, Park is drawing an unconventional figure that can be seen in a flat view with detailed analysis and delicate acting on the black person. It is a gentle but strong, gentle but obvious expression of Kim Jin-hyuk. That's why they are being loved by the viewers' empathy with authentic performances every time. jyn2011@sportschosun.com....source credit @https://m.entertain.naver.com/read?oid=076&aid=0003364511 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ahdrianaa Posted January 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, noonainwaiting said: "What can I do to win Soo hyun over."Bro. Its time to stop. He can honestly start dating his handsome secretary if he really wants to shake up his life. . This is a great idea, Secretary Kim is actually the only one looking out for the ex. Let’s ship. 2 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlireal Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, dukesa1122 said: It is a “why didnt i thought of that?” face. Oh thank you. It's now my turn " why didn't I think of that?" So it is one more proof, how good SH observes everything within some seconds. She can read everything, as someone wrote it several pages before. 5 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dukesa1122 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, tlireal said: Oh thank you. It's now my turn " why didn't I think of that?" So it is one more proof, how good SH observes everything within some seconds. She can read everything, as someone wrote it several pages before. Sorry. Why didn't I think of that? 1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said: That's the reason why I can not feel sorry for him. He is old enough now. The marriage and divorce should have been a wake up call for him but he didn't change at all. He remained at home and still let his mother decide for him. Actually, he could stop his mother with the divorce law suit by writing a new divorce contract because he is actually CSH's ex-husband and not his mother. He allowed her to write such a terrible contract. 30+ years of crooked education and training will do that to a person. He has been living like that for as long as he was alive and the most important part is no one ever told him that it was wrong but CSH and that happened years after the divorce. Blame it to the education why he's slow at understanding things and feelings. I think he didn't even realize that CSH was just waiting for him to step up and he was being weak by not doing anything or that he was just too cowardly to step up against his mother, because again crooked education and training. While I agree that he is old enough and mature enough, habits especially habits that you don't know you're doing is really hard to change. The actor's face shows sadness and he's cute and handsome . I can't help but feel sorry for him. But it stops there. He should let go of CSH. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainydays Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 want to see more of the balcony kiss.. balcony kiss is the hottest I watched in kdrama. and in eps 10 she packed the shirt she wears in the balcony kiss, so maybe the stills of them dancing and the balcony kiss could be in eps 11. the PD has granted my wishes so far + bonus.. I wish for funny jokes between couples - face time I wish for skinship and close up kiss lol - when watch movies they held hands and leaning to each other and kiss in Cuba and balcony kiss, that's skinship more than I ask for so my other wishes (besides happy ending for sure) are that I hope to see CSH said saranghe to KJH and maybe a little jealous moment like eps 2 (when CSH see KJH talk on the phone). oh and can we see some more of balcony kiss scene? the view is so beautiful too. I don't mind not seeing many much lovey dovey scene in the upcoming eps because I think they will focus more about how they resolve their relationship. addition : I think PBG is the most handsome man in korea. (my other list is Lee Jong Jae) 3 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utkim Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 This scene is funny Spoiler He’s scared Spoiler 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogummyNoona Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 This drama is so rich in life- lessons. Thank you all for putting efforts in analyzing every dialogues, scenes even the facial expressions. To top that the two leads make us mesmerized with their acting. PBG and SHK are really top stars for so many reasons. I read a post that this drama is so complete with all the elements, and I agree perfectly. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellinadear Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I have been a BG fan for years now and he still surprises me. Most of us who are his fans know he doesn't drink (alcohol) but he drank beer in this drama. He doesn't also drink Coffee but he did (I wanted the camera crew to zoom in to his cup to see at some point LOL). On the drama I watched ep 10 again and I shook my head when SH's momma knelt down. She KNELT down y'all. For the sake of power. What kinda mother is that? Your daughter's happiness means nothing to you? My gosh. As for WS, trying to write a poem. I knew he couldn't cuz he would find it so cheesy but his Ex likes things like that. WS-ah, open your eyes. She doesn't love you no more bro. Move on. During kiss scenes, I have noticed that the PD loves to allow the viewers hear the "Smack" sound before he dulls it with music. New year party (second kiss before they hugged) Car kiss. Cuba kiss (before the long kiss). Balcony kiss (at the start of it, you can hear it). 15 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bebebisous33 Posted January 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, dukesa1122 said: Sorry. Why didn't I think of that? 30+ years of crooked education and training will do that to a person. He has been living like that for as long as he was alive and the most important part is no one ever told him that it was wrong but CSH and that happened years after the divorce. Blame it to the education why he's slow at understanding things and feelings. I think he didn't even realize that CSH was just waiting for him to step up and he was being weak by not doing anything or that he was just too cowardly to step up against his mother, because again crooked education and training. While I agree that he is old enough and mature enough, habits especially habits that you don't know you're doing is really hard to change. The actor's face shows sadness and he's cute and handsome . I can't help but feel sorry for him. But it stops there. He should let go of CSH. In my opinion, JWS has never had any opinion or his own thoughts hence he could never express himself. It was as if he has been living as a robot following his mother's orders all this time. His own taste even resembles a lot his mother's taste. That's why his gifts are so meaningless, he is just following what others do: ring means romance, receiving flowers should make a woman happy. This also explains why he didn't understand the true significance, when he showed the alliances. He thought, this was a good move who would touch CSH's heart. Since he doesn't think himself, it outlines his lack of reflection and knowledge. To conclude, he is superficial. This also gives an explanation why he can not express himself very well. He had to search in the Internet how to write a note, when he offered the dress. His choice of words ("I picked up this dress on my way up") was totally wrong and gave a false impression: he never intended to let her think that this gesture was casual and had no deep meaning. Then it took him a lot of time, until he was able to confess. Yet his confession was terrible: out of the blue, indicating again superficiality and temporality ("The girl I like... I've been missing you a lot these days"). Every time his words never reflect his own feelings. To summarize, he is not a good speaker, unlike JH. One of the causes for his lack of self-expression is that he doesn't seem to be interested in art and literature. This was clearly visible, when he met the painter. He had no understanding of the meaning behind the paintings. He just followed his wife and made remarks how terrible this trip was. He was just observing his wife, while he was suffering. He even added that his mother was her sponsor and his ex-wife her biggest fan. But what about him? To me, he shows no interest in art. Then he had to ask his secretary about poetry. And now this caught my attention again As you can observe, this little scene justifies why CSH is totally different from JWS. I had pointed out that CSH was similar to JWS as she had never been allowed to express herself. However, she found a way to "express" herself. She read poetry books and enjoys paintings. That's why her flat and her office have a lot of paintings. Even the number of paintings have been increasing. That way, she is able to speak her mind, even if it is not obvious. And this is where JWS and CSH differ. CSH has always had her own opinion and mind but accepted to remain quiet. JWS was never allowed to develop his own thoughts and character. He is weak because he has no personality. @twtwb @stroppyse@thistle @Yongzura 17 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahma92 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Still waiting for this scene, hope they wont skip this part. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonaomi123 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 5 hours ago, bebebisous33 said: Actually, CSH's mother doesn't believe in her husband's abilities at all. She thinks, he needs the help of Taekyeong group in order to win an election. However, we heard that - he went on hunger strike after his friend's death in order to put pressure on the authorities and he was successful - he obtained the attention of politicians who asked him to become one - he became the mayor of Seoul on his own merit because CSH married JWS after this election. Chairman Kim is delusional and arrogant, she thinks that without her money CJH would have never won the election as assemblyman... yet he was able to get elected before she entered his life. It would be interesting if CJH's popularity increased because his daughter is dating a commoner. MiOk (SooHyun's mother) is like a walking, talking realization of "your eyes are bigger than your stomach". She let her greed, rather than her common sense, lead her to making a deal that may end up ruining her husband's chances of actually being elected President. Even at this late date, that money she took could be misconstrued as a bribe and could cast a shadow over all her husband's accomplishments since he started working in the government. What makes my blood boil is that MiOk is so stubborn! If something's not working, why keep banging your head against it? Make new alliances woman! the fact that she refuses to stop trying to partner up with TaeKyung group makes me worry that the Chairwoman doesn't have dirt on SooHyun's dad, but instead has dirt on SooHyun's mom. 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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