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[Drama 2018-2019] Encounter / Boyfriend, 남자친구

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I couldn't really figure out what SooHyun's mask was supposed to be?  Does anyone have any clues?  The only thing that comes to mind is the Man in the Iron Mask?  But that doesn't really fit the drama...

 

Also re: the kiss... it was beyond lovely!  The way both of them were so tearful and overjoyed and just so into each other still has me :blush:.  I just didn't want to see the back of PBG's head as one of the shots lol.

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24 minutes ago, stroppyse said:

 

Unfortunately, the video wasn't good enough for me to make out the text on the articles, so I don't know. Perhaps someone has a grab in HD that will make the print legible?

 

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@stroppyse

Could you please press on the picture to enlarge and try to see this letters? 

 

Thank you so much for your translation and comments.

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27 minutes ago, stroppyse said:

For me, the fact that he is able to be more forceful with her is also a sign that he does see her as his girlfriend who happens to be the CEO, rather than being more deferential as he has been in the past. Just my opinion on that anyway,.

 

I think that he has been strong with her all along but he has never been in the position to have to press a point before.  JH has shown that he is able to stand his ground without making a fuss (like when he had to listen to MIL threatening him and he didn't obviously react or apologize) and that he makes up his own mind (like when he came to SH's rescue by coming out as the ramyeon date).  I think that SH already knows that she can rely on him because he has shown her that she can.  The fact that he's able to be more forceful this time shows growth in their relationship.  

 

@yonaomi123 I've only seen screen caps and they aren't too clear on showing the whole mask.  That's why I'm still wondering, too, but it seems like there are trees at the top of it?  I wondered if it was a reference to the Celtic Green Man (although I don't think that makes sense).  And I thought that the lacy-ness of the mask was a reminder of the opening animations.

 

.....editing to add that I just looked up Green Man.  He's a symbol of rebirth, regrowth, and spring.  Now that makes sense!  Remember JH saying that it felt like spring?  :)

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I don't understand JWS at all. Let's assume that it's very hard for him to win SH's heart during the marriage due to his mom and since SH felt forced to the marriage, it's making the marriage life miserable. However, if he really loves SH, he should have continued to pursue SH after the divorce so that he can win her heart voluntarily? Instead, he was passive and just observing her from the back for that past 2 years....

Now that SH is happy with JH, he's intruding and wants SH back....that's really crazy. Where were you JWS during those 4 years when SH didn't have anybody to support her?

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In the opening scenes anyway, SH has some really fantastic conversations where she is showing that she is not going to be pushed around any longer. And, she does it without histrionics or even raising her voice. Her calm, matter of fact delivery actually provides a counterpoint in this scene with her mother when SH goes to visit her. Translation of the conversation follows.

 

Mother: Do you want anything? (meaning to eat or drink)
SH: I have to go in a minute.
Mother: What brings you here? So suddenly?
SH: I thought you would freak out if you found out later, so I’m here to tell you beforehand.
Mother: Did you cause some trouble?
SH: From mom’s point of view, I suppose it could be considered trouble.
Mother: What do you mean?
SH: Since I was born, mom has been mom and dad was dad.
Mother: Don’t engage in word play. (meaning get to the point)
SH: I’m not saying I didn’t like it. Till now, I’ve lived diligently according to mom’s plan. I lived thinking that any such thing that I might want was a luxury I couldn’t afford. Living like that, I’m already in my mid-30’s.
Mother: It’s thanks to me that you were even able to be Taekyong’s daughter-in-law.
SH: Because that was also my choice, I don’t resent you for it. However, I won’t live like that in the future.
Mother: So?
SH: I think that Taekyeong is going to bring a lawsuit against me, using the divorce contract.
Mother: What do you mean a lawsuit? You’re just starting over again, so why would they sue you?
SH: There is no way that it will start again.
Mother: (sighs) Okay, the in-laws can be difficult to manage for anyone.  Your grandmother was very hard. Still, after living with it -
SH: When I was getting the divorce, I smiled. Without even realizing it, I found myself smiling, because I thought I might live.  There is no way that I will go back in. So, mom should stop meeting Chairman Kim as well. Mom will be the only one to be hurt.
Mother: Do you even think that you can oppose Chairman Kim?
SH: In anticipation of the lawsuit, I’m going to meet with a lawyer.
Mother: Are you crazy?
SH: I’m not here to ask for your advice. I’m just telling you my decision. I’ll go then. (gets up)
Mother: Sit. Is it because of that guy? Is that why you’re running around acting all crazy? is it?
SH: For the first time, I’ve become the owner of my own life. and it’s not because of or thanks to anyone else.
Mother: Are you not thinking of your dad at all?! How much time is left until elections that you are acting like this?!
SH: If he’s a politician who can’t be elected because I’m being like this, then is he really a politician? Until now, it was dad who made it happen. It wasn’t mom, and it wasn’t me. Dad was the one who did it. (meaning her father is the one who won elections and served as a politician, not them) (SH leaves)
Mother: Oh. Oh, really.

 

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1 hour ago, icyphoenix said:

 

@jeonghyang

 

 that hug was my favourite even more than the kiss.. They looked soo comfy with the hug!! CSH looked cute in KJH's arms:wub:

 

 

Indeed! and that hug was sweeter than the PG kiss.

 

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8 minutes ago, beebeep said:

Where were you JWS during those 4 years when SH didn't have anybody to support her?

 

He probably thought he was supporting her in his own way but that was something that didn't work for her at all and that didn't make sense to her.  

 

The big difference between JWS and JH is that one is closed and the other is open.   JWS is twisty and plotting while JH is clear and straightforward.  JWS is thinking about his own way of doing things while JH is thinking of the other person.

 

Quite a contrast between the two.  

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13 minutes ago, barneybaby said:

Hihi

 

Any other website to watch episode 8 now? Those website i got haven't upload yet. :) 

 

I found it after checking five different sites, and it's the subbed version already.  I will message you a link.  This site is okay but you should make sure your virus protection is good.

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I wonder what will happen to JH next episode? Is he kidnapped by Taekyong? This is getting more interesting since I can't guess what will happen next...Taekyong is bad but would they really kidnap JH? That would become a crime...

On the other hand, it doesn't seem to be in JH's character to go MIA like that....I hope the script doesn't become ridiculous....

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15 minutes ago, NongpeeP said:

 

Could you please press on the picture to enlarge and try to see this letters? 

 

Thank you so much for your translation and comments.

pBG-encounter.jpg

 

So, a lot of the text is blurry on this still, however, the article is about SH being on a date with someone. And, that there was something about her circulating via SNS. Finally, something about her showing off childish behaviour.

 

So, I'm going to assume that someone did see the kiss perhaps and probably gossiped about it on SNS which was then picked up by various reporters. Sorry, this is as much as I can make out.

 

 

8 minutes ago, beebeep said:

I don't understand JWS at all. Let's assume that it's very hard for him to win SH's heart during the marriage due to his mom and since SH felt forced to the marriage, it's making the marriage life miserable. However, if he really loves SH, he should have continued to pursue SH after the divorce so that he can win her heart voluntarily? Instead, he was passive and just observing her from the back for that past 2 years....

Now that SH is happy with JH, he's intruding and wants SH back....that's really crazy. Where were you JWS during those 4 years when SH didn't have anybody to support her?

 

I agree with you that WS is being a bit ridiculous by our standards. However, I think that WS thought that he was letting SH have some time and room to herself and that he had time to woo her back somehow. Given her status as an infamous ex-chaebol daughter-in-law, I don't think he made a poor assumption actually, given the nature of Korean chaebol influence, not to mention her own family's political ambition.

 

He also didn't think that she would ever become attracted to another man, especially one without the proper family and background, who wouldn't care about any of that. As has been expressed before, WS doesn't really know SH well at all. He doesn't realize that SH isn't really like him in that she has accepted her lot in life as being permanently unchangeable, even if one may step outside of it from time to time.

 

If they had stayed married, even though WS loved his wife, for instance, WS would still have had sex with other women, and it probably wouldn't have occurred to him that he was being unfaithful. It would just be the way things are done in his world where money is privilege, and the man usually holds the upper hand in the relationship.

 

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Wow.. kudos.. she has kissed some of the hottest men out there including her husband.. but she never never never does on-screen kiss. her lips are always tightly closed..

 

but then that's her beauty too..

 

the ever alluring , beautiful

she embodies her character from autumn sky of breathtakingly b'ful cinderella, plain serious jane falling for intelligent, smooth men (SJK, HB :P )

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6 hours ago, stroppyse said:

 

So, additional observations about this conversation. Even though SH is just trying to right something that she considers to have been wrongly done to JH in the first place, JH knows that if SH steps in now after his transfer has been announced, that it would come to be seen to the company as SH doing a favor for her young lover. That would weaken SH's position in the company from the one she has now of being a level-headed, meritocratic, capable leader. So, he would rather let the transfer happen, and then be promoted back to headquarters through merit rather than SH's intervention. The other thing that is unusual about this conversation is how many times JH cuts SH off as she's speaking in order to convince her to go along with what he's saying. Given that he's actually going against her sense of right and wrong as well as her regrets for putting him in a position to be manipulated by those who want to hurt her, he's actually being relatively forceful to get her compliance. For me, the fact that he is able to be more forceful with her is also a sign that he does see her as his girlfriend who happens to be the CEO, rather than being more deferential as he has been in the past. Just my opinion on that anyway,.

I have just finished watching Encounter ep.8 with Eng Subtitle, I feel the same that KJH is able to be more forceful with her is a sign that he does see her as his girlfriend.

 

By the way. I really appreciated story and script to use the new word, rather than I love you, when KJH told CSH that he knows love from books but because of CSH he has known what love is. 

 

6 hours ago, jl08 said:

I swear Park Bo Gum and Song Hye are completely responsible for creating the magical world of KJH and CSH that sucked us into their deep emotions, making it seem like we're there with them all the way, feeling their ups and downs. They're responsible for making us yearn for Weds and Thurs and throwing caution to the wind even in the office! Heck the boss.

 

I thought I was not quite satisfied about their kiss from the gifs .... till I watched the episode and was overwhelmed by their sadness and longing for each other which culminated in that beautiful, gentle kiss- it suffices for now because it got us crying, didn't it? Now, that's something so awesome. It conveys what it's suppose to convey to the audience - they have missed each other terribly. They had it real bad. They needed to touch and hug.

 

I just love the moment when KJH pulled CSH away from the party - he was so darn confident of his woman. PBG and SHK are so talented and they deserve all the accolades in making this drama so magical. Ep 8 is humanly sad but beautiful.

 

PBG and SHK chemistry is no joke, seriously. 

 

I really agreed with your praises for Park Bo Gum's and Song Hye Kyo's natural acting.

 

The kiss scene reflected their longing each other, it has been conveyed perfectly to suit the missing emotion. I am glad that PD and scriptwriter made this scene realistically ensamble to characters/situations, rather than more intense&heated to create talk of the town PR.

 

After KJH and CSH moved on to more status than pre-relationship stage, KJH and CSH acted naturally as a dating couple, he could hold her hand and pull her to balcony outside.

 

I can not imagine PBG's and SHK's chemistry when news announced their confirmation of accepting the Encounter project but PBG and SHK can amazingly create KJH and CSH to exist in the K-drama land in audiences' eyes and mind. 

 

6 hours ago, stroppyse said:

So, a lot of the text is blurry on this still, however, the article is about SH being on a date with someone. And, that there was something about her circulating via SNS. Finally, something about her showing off childish behaviour.

 

So, I'm going to assume that someone did see the kiss perhaps and probably gossiped about it on SNS which was then picked up by various reporters. Sorry, this is as much as I can make out.

 

I hope that KJH will not choose any way to solve this problem which impact his life or the cruel chaebeol do anything to hurt KJH&CSH much worse.

 

Frankly writing here, when he chose to relocate in order to save CSH's CEO postion, I am so sad for his parents&his little brother to be far away from their valuable KJH. I really understand his eyes' expression like deeply guilty when he was with his family. KJH might be CSH's boyfriend while he is still a good son to make his family happy too, conflicting sometimes. 

 

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23 hours ago, hushhh said:

I came for BoGum but I find that Jang Seung-Jo as Jung Woo-Seok that has me fascinated.  While I'm not shipping Woo-Seok with Soo-Hyun, I feel his pain for the lost opportunity for that relationship. If love is an action, he has been loving Soo-Hyun for a while but somehow never was able to let her understand his feelings.  I think so far all his interventions, from the divorce on, has been to set Soo-Hyun free, which is what he thinks she wanted.

 

@hushhh, I know exactly what you mean. Definitely not shipping him with Soo Hyun, but I felt sorry for him too.  However, I'm ready for him to move on and realize that he had an opportunity and he needs to leave her alone as she pursues happiness with another man. 

 

I was hoping beyond hope that he would see Soo Hyun and Jin Hyuk kissing. This is only episode 8 so I have a feeling we have some heavy angst coming ahead for our OTP.  However, I will bask in their happiness for now.  Another good episode.

 

Can't wait for the subs, I'm very excited to know what some of the conversations were about. I especially want to know what brought Soo Hyun to cry--almost twice.  I wonder if it's because she felt the pang of Jin Hyuk going to be in another city and she wouldn't see him every day. I wonder if her sentimental smile as she watched the dancers  at the party had her wishing she could go back to that carefree moment with Jin Hyuk in Cuba when she probably truly enjoyed herself for the first time.

 

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, thistle said:

 

Your wife is fortunate indeed.  

 

She is also my Noona by 5 years and when we first met, she was my supervisor's boss.  

 

"Encounter" is actually a biographical telling of our romance...(not at all.)  :rolleyes:

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