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[Drama 2018-2019] Fates and Furies 운명과 분노

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24 minutes ago, anony12345 said:

Not 100% sure what point you're trying to make. 

I meant about why tae oh needed oh soo hyun specifically to donate or how it would occur etc... am guessing that it has to do with local transplant laws and connected issues that don't need explaining for the local audience. supposing the law was strict and doesn't allow non-family members to donate, then it would be obvious to local audience why tae oh doesn't have much options besides soo hyun and waiting for a long time on the waiting list.. if hong kong doesn't do transplants for foreigners, then it would be obvious to local audience that as koreans, he would have to return to seoul.... so if there is already existing knowledge with domestic audience that doesn't require explanation, then the writer may skip on that info...

 

for example with drama 'empress dignity', we were wondering why RH- blood was an issue.. then one of the posters explained that in korea, it is even rarer compared to rest of world (where it is around 10% of population) and so there are shortages at times.

 

so, my feel from this drama is that there are perhaps a few missing gaps like that in regards to the transplant which may have to do with knowledge that domestic viewers would already have and so the writer doesn't bother to explain... however, it could also simply be gaps in writing... difficult to tell either way..

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That's fair enough but that's not the point I was trying to make - why does the SIL need to tell him that and how can she possible use that as a bargaining chip

 

You're telling me he has been desperately looking for a kidney but didn't consider SH once until some random lady he had never seen before told him? If anything your point backs up my point that it's dumb. If say the law is only family members can donate why in the world would he need some random lady to tell him to consider the mother?

 

I'm not Korea but I'd like to think it's obvious parents/siblings are a good place to start when looking for a donor.

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so I watched the final two episodes and all I can say is "meh/so-so"... this drama had this real spark when it started and then it just kind of disappeared? there were quite a few plot holes and questions that just weren't explained... if the uncle had all the material needed to punish them, why not use them earlier? usually in revenge dramas, you feel such a sense of satisfaction when the bad guy gets punishment in the end but here, was feeling flat. was it because injoon didn't have to do too much work to get revenge and so we didn't get invested for 16+ episodes like it happens in other revenge dramas? ....

 

stuff that I liked sort of -- cha soo hyun's journey with tae oh; so we didn't get a weird happy ending sort of tacked into the end. instead, we had a bittersweet parting that made sense. they may or may not keep in touch but she acknowledged her kid. now why she ran off from them both before -- that question was never answered....

 

loan shark gets their store running and seems to playfully harass them; was that always their relationship? like he was a friend but he is in the bad side? never got the full dynamic of his relationship to the sisters...

 

so it turned out to be the sister-in-law; found it interesting that she seemed to have no issue with hera's sister being the mistress but was more worried about competition for her son. so was it all about succession? hoping that her son would take over the company and all her heartaches would finally make sense? wish they had explored that a bit more so it had some kind of depth...

 

so I wasn't sure whether to like or dislike the happy ending with hera. on one hand, it felt abrupt that he just forgave her when we didn't see the work and struggle that goes into it. on the other, we get a kind of hopeful feel after watching so many episodes (and I dislike sad endings; we got real life stress for that!)... so win? but what I did like is how he recognized the shoe design and immediately asked that lady -- where did you buy your shoes? that was a nice touch...

 

so altogether -- so-so! see you chingus in another thread! :)

 

 

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What a nonsense , are we supposed to believe stepmother & her son did all these crime to cover for something they didn’t do ,  If they want to used it to get rid off  In joon why not used at that moment , why Wait for years until the real murder could used it :triumph: 

 

Wow only in kdrama people wake up the right moment, not once but twice , how quick it was for dad to wake up and had the strength to talk even - was that a miracle or the miracle was the sister to be able to tell who try to kill her and remembering after years it was sister in law , if I was sisters law  I will challenge it , for gad sake she was sick for years , can her memory be stable , so police take her word for it , never mind they prison innocent man for it before , wouldn’t they be wary about it :crazy:

 

 

 

 

 

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My final thoughts after watching subs...

 

Well the ending to me was kind of meh. No real surprises except for who actually tried to kill He Ra's sister. I didn't really see that coming. I still kind of felt bad for Ah Jung. She was a battered woman but trying to kill someone she perceived as a threat was way to much. Had she not done that, she would have been the most sympathetic character in the whole drama.

 

A couple of dots I could not quite connect. What was JTO's motivation for going along with the plan? Was it just getting a kidney for Jennie. To me it was an elaborate way of going about it. What if He Ra had not played along in the beginning? Where would he have been then? Also, the old man should have ended up in prison with the rest of them and he got off scott free.

 

Still didn't get CSH's character. I didn't get how a woman can basically abandon her child. SMH!

 

This drama had so much potential in the end but the last 3 weeks it kind of felt flat. The writer spent so much effort in opening up the story lines in the first half but kind of lost their way towards the end. Still I watched it until the end just to see the ending. Kind of disappointed. Off well! There are other dramas to watch so I'll keep clicking. I enjoyed everyone's comments in this thread reading everyone's theories kept me engaged. Happy trails and hope to see you in another thread somewhere.

 

6 hours ago, Lmangla said:

so it turned out to be the sister-in-law; found it interesting that she seemed to have no issue with hera's sister being the mistress but was more worried about competition for her son. so was it all about succession? hoping that her son would take over the company and all her heartaches would finally make sense? wish they had explored that a bit more so it had some kind of depth...

 Nailed it! My thoughts exactly.

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My thoughts

 

I thought the last two episodes were rushed (as with many other Korean dramas).  I would have been nice, since there was a time jump to start down fall of his brother and step mother earlier.  I think he wasted to much time hating HaeRa and not enough time planning his family's down fall.  Okay, I could see his first meeting with her, telling her how he felt; however, once he heard the tapes and understood that she had been manipulated by the step-mother, he should have been adult enough to let those "I am so hurt" feelings go and move on to look, I am still extremely upset that you thought I could do such a thing, but I understand you were manipulated by my step-mother and brother, let's bring them down together and have her included in the strategy sessions.  Instead of Soo-Hyun and HaeRa's interview, show Soo-Hyun going to the Karate class to see her daughter ( that would have been a "aah" moment.)

 

I liked the twist that it was the sister-in-law, A-Jung, that contacted Tae-Oh. Some of you guessed it was her right away.  When she went to see him, she was battered!  Not only did Jung-ho cheat on her, he also battered her. The final straw is that he withheld her son from her. To get revenge for her family (whom the father caused to go bankrupt) and for her son, whom Jung Ho would not let her see, she plotted to take the company away from them and give to her son. When she asked for Jun-Ho's stock to be transferred to her son,  I gathered that he is Jun-Ho's son also.  Her plan was to put a wedge between Soo-Hyun and In Joon  was because if they married, the Gold Corporation would definitely go to In-Joon and her son would lose out. 

 

A-Jung claimed she tried to kill Hae-Ra's sister because another baby should not come into that family.  I don't think that was the main reason she wanted to get rid of Hae-Ra sister.  Remember the father threw In-Joon's mother, his legal wife out, and moved his mistress in to the home.  Jun-Ho, although older is not on the family's register and therefore, not recognized as a part of the Tae family, nor is he a legitimate heir.    I think the sister-in-law felt that Jun-Ho could do that same thing to her and her son would lose out; therefore, she tried to kill Hae-Ra's sister and the unborn baby.  I did not see that coming.   As the con man asked In-Joon, who has the most to gain?  Of course, A-Jung and the her son.  Some were concerned about the son, I am sure In-Joon will make sure he is taken care of and will not treat him the way he was treated, there should not be any worries there.  

 

I also liked that Soo-Hyun reconciled with Jenny.  I think in the end that is all Tae-Oh wanted.  Jenny needs a mother in her life, even if they can only talk on the phone or meet once a year. Some wanted to know how Jenny knew she was her mother, Soo-Hyun's mother told Jenny, I am your grandmother.  When Soo-Hyun took Jenny from her mother, she addressed her mother by title.  I am sure once Jenny though about it she put the two together.  

 

I am glad they got back together in the final episode, but it was too little, too late for me. However, I did like the dialog between the two on the beach.  He thought about how things would be different had he not taken her hand, (paraphrasing), and going through all they have, he would still take her hand.  Would she still take his hand... Hae-Ra nodded yes and he put out his hand for her to take it.  I just wished it would have ended with a hug and final kiss or a walk on the beach holding hands.  

 

In all, not a bad drama.  The writing could have been a lot tighter, but I still enjoyed the drama.  What made it better is being able to interact with everyone here.    Hopefully, I will see you on  another post.  I am currently watching several Chinese dramas and I am reading the synopsis of several new K-dramas.  I hope I pick one or two good ones to watch.   

 

Sorry for rambling on...bye guys, it has been fun.

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